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9/11 Truth pic: Funny, offensive or the right artistic balance to spark debate?

 
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See the picture here, I would just post the picture but there is no option for that. The pic is getting varied response, most laughs but lots of butthurt too.

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IMO, that pic is kind of fucked up.
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I don't think it's fucked up at all. Our country is full of cowards, cowards who believe that 9/11 was caused by a bunch of idiots who could barely fly a kite, that Bin Laden was captured and killed last year when he has been dead since Tora Bora, that Gabi Giffords survived a point blank shot to the head and can walk and talk yet James Brady is in a wheelchair and a vegetable from a glancing shot....cowards who sit and let a Muslim sit in jail after massacring our service men and women in a hospital in Fort Hood yet it's not an act of terrorism...cowards who fall for the bs of the Batman shooting, Sandy Hook, and the Boston Marathon...cowards who are shown proof our country spies on them at every turn, that patriots are killed in cars that hit trees going 100mph and burst into flames.

We're a nation of cowards, every fucking one of you.
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I don't think it's fucked up at all. Our country is full of cowards, cowards who believe that 9/11 was caused by a bunch of idiots who could barely fly a kite, that Bin Laden was captured and killed last year when he has been dead since Tora Bora, that Gabi Giffords survived a point blank shot to the head and can walk and talk yet James Brady is in a wheelchair and a vegetable from a glancing shot....cowards who sit and let a Muslim sit in jail after massacring our service men and women in a hospital in Fort Hood yet it's not an act of terrorism...cowards who fall for the bs of the Batman shooting, Sandy Hook, and the Boston Marathon...cowards who are shown proof our country spies on them at every turn, that patriots are killed in cars that hit trees going 100mph and burst into flames.

We're a nation of cowards, every fucking one of you.
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Well said sir.
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I don't think it's fucked up at all. Our country is full of cowards, cowards who believe that 9/11 was caused by a bunch of idiots who could barely fly a kite, that Bin Laden was captured and killed last year when he has been dead since Tora Bora, that Gabi Giffords survived a point blank shot to the head and can walk and talk yet James Brady is in a wheelchair and a vegetable from a glancing shot....cowards who sit and let a Muslim sit in jail after massacring our service men and women in a hospital in Fort Hood yet it's not an act of terrorism...cowards who fall for the bs of the Batman shooting, Sandy Hook, and the Boston Marathon...cowards who are shown proof our country spies on them at every turn, that patriots are killed in cars that hit trees going 100mph and burst into flames.

We're a nation of cowards, every fucking one of you.
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This is not a joke. Real people died on that day, and the days that followed. To show the twin towers as a couple of pot smoking hippies is not only offensive, it does damage to the movement.

I am not making any kind of statement against people who use pot, to each his own. But let’s say that I am just a regular Joe who has questions about 911. I do a google search and see that image. I then think “They don’t have any evidence, it is just a bunch of pot smoking hippies making shit up.” I then leave the site confident that I have a good grasp on how the world is run.

Maybe that was the purpose of the pic all along.

And don't dare make a general statement saying all Americans are cowards. Some of us are fighting for survival, and we have to choose our battles carefully.
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I don't think it's fucked up at all. Our country is full of cowards, cowards who believe that 9/11 was caused by a bunch of idiots who could barely fly a kite, that Bin Laden was captured and killed last year when he has been dead since Tora Bora, that Gabi Giffords survived a point blank shot to the head and can walk and talk yet James Brady is in a wheelchair and a vegetable from a glancing shot....cowards who sit and let a Muslim sit in jail after massacring our service men and women in a hospital in Fort Hood yet it's not an act of terrorism...cowards who fall for the bs of the Batman shooting, Sandy Hook, and the Boston Marathon...cowards who are shown proof our country spies on them at every turn, that patriots are killed in cars that hit trees going 100mph and burst into flames.

We're a nation of cowards, every fucking one of you.
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This is not a joke. Real people died on that day, and the days that followed. To show the twin towers as a couple of pot smoking hippies is not only offensive, it does damage to the movement.

I am not making any kind of statement against people who use pot, to each his own. But let’s say that I am just a regular Joe who has questions about 911. I do a google search and see that image. I then think “They don’t have any evidence, it is just a bunch of pot smoking hippies making shit up.” I then leave the site confident that I have a good grasp on how the world is run.

Maybe that was the purpose of the pic all along.

And don't dare make a general statement saying all Americans are cowards. Some of us are fighting for survival, and we have to choose our battles carefully.
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Yes, you make a rational argument, but in the sense that it is about numbers and presenting the overall package to ppl that will have different effects across the standard bell curve. Some will be turned off, but many will be at least debating. Eventually, the information will begin to break through as the campaign starts. Last year's had a ton of concise, reviewed info.

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I don't think it's fucked up at all. Our country is full of cowards, cowards who believe that 9/11 was caused by a bunch of idiots who could barely fly a kite, that Bin Laden was captured and killed last year when he has been dead since Tora Bora, that Gabi Giffords survived a point blank shot to the head and can walk and talk yet James Brady is in a wheelchair and a vegetable from a glancing shot....cowards who sit and let a Muslim sit in jail after massacring our service men and women in a hospital in Fort Hood yet it's not an act of terrorism...cowards who fall for the bs of the Batman shooting, Sandy Hook, and the Boston Marathon...cowards who are shown proof our country spies on them at every turn, that patriots are killed in cars that hit trees going 100mph and burst into flames.

We're a nation of cowards, every fucking one of you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17218268


This is not a joke. Real people died on that day, and the days that followed. To show the twin towers as a couple of pot smoking hippies is not only offensive, it does damage to the movement.

I am not making any kind of statement against people who use pot, to each his own. But let’s say that I am just a regular Joe who has questions about 911. I do a google search and see that image. I then think “They don’t have any evidence, it is just a bunch of pot smoking hippies making shit up.” I then leave the site confident that I have a good grasp on how the world is run.

Maybe that was the purpose of the pic all along.

And don't dare make a general statement saying all Americans are cowards. Some of us are fighting for survival, and we have to choose our battles carefully.
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Spoken like a true coward. Our ancestors fought against an oppressive government and put their lives on the line. Your fight for survival is paying your taxes and sucking up to the man like a coward.
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I don't think it's fucked up at all. Our country is full of cowards, cowards who believe that 9/11 was caused by a bunch of idiots who could barely fly a kite, that Bin Laden was captured and killed last year when he has been dead since Tora Bora, that Gabi Giffords survived a point blank shot to the head and can walk and talk yet James Brady is in a wheelchair and a vegetable from a glancing shot....cowards who sit and let a Muslim sit in jail after massacring our service men and women in a hospital in Fort Hood yet it's not an act of terrorism...cowards who fall for the bs of the Batman shooting, Sandy Hook, and the Boston Marathon...cowards who are shown proof our country spies on them at every turn, that patriots are killed in cars that hit trees going 100mph and burst into flames.

We're a nation of cowards, every fucking one of you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17218268


This is not a joke. Real people died on that day, and the days that followed. To show the twin towers as a couple of pot smoking hippies is not only offensive, it does damage to the movement.

I am not making any kind of statement against people who use pot, to each his own. But let’s say that I am just a regular Joe who has questions about 911. I do a google search and see that image. I then think “They don’t have any evidence, it is just a bunch of pot smoking hippies making shit up.” I then leave the site confident that I have a good grasp on how the world is run.

Maybe that was the purpose of the pic all along.

And don't dare make a general statement saying all Americans are cowards. Some of us are fighting for survival, and we have to choose our battles carefully.
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Spoken like a true coward. Our ancestors fought against an oppressive government and put their lives on the line. Your fight for survival is paying your taxes and sucking up to the man like a coward.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17218268


I find that getting into an emotional argument on the internet to be a pointless endeavor. However, I would like to point out the irony of an unregistered user (anonymous coward) calling all Americans, including myself, a coward while offering no suggestions as to what I should do.
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I don't think it's fucked up at all. Our country is full of cowards, cowards who believe that 9/11 was caused by a bunch of idiots who could barely fly a kite, that Bin Laden was captured and killed last year when he has been dead since Tora Bora, that Gabi Giffords survived a point blank shot to the head and can walk and talk yet James Brady is in a wheelchair and a vegetable from a glancing shot....cowards who sit and let a Muslim sit in jail after massacring our service men and women in a hospital in Fort Hood yet it's not an act of terrorism...cowards who fall for the bs of the Batman shooting, Sandy Hook, and the Boston Marathon...cowards who are shown proof our country spies on them at every turn, that patriots are killed in cars that hit trees going 100mph and burst into flames.

We're a nation of cowards, every fucking one of you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17218268


This is not a joke. Real people died on that day, and the days that followed. To show the twin towers as a couple of pot smoking hippies is not only offensive, it does damage to the movement.

I am not making any kind of statement against people who use pot, to each his own. But let’s say that I am just a regular Joe who has questions about 911. I do a google search and see that image. I then think “They don’t have any evidence, it is just a bunch of pot smoking hippies making shit up.” I then leave the site confident that I have a good grasp on how the world is run.

Maybe that was the purpose of the pic all along.

And don't dare make a general statement saying all Americans are cowards. Some of us are fighting for survival, and we have to choose our battles carefully.
 Quoting: Ford44


Spoken like a true coward. Our ancestors fought against an oppressive government and put their lives on the line. Your fight for survival is paying your taxes and sucking up to the man like a coward.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17218268


I find that getting into an emotional argument on the internet to be a pointless endeavor. However, I would like to point out the irony of an unregistered user (anonymous coward) calling all Americans, including myself, a coward while offering no suggestions as to what I should do.
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I think this sort of thing happens a lot, the debate gets bogged down in generic words that don't apply to the situation.
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You are right, enough name calling.

OP, explain to me why you think a photo shop of the smoking twin towers passing a doob is a good way to get information out about the 911 conspiracy.
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I don’t find it offensive at all, in its own way it is humorous. Some narrow-minded tards might not like it; I think it is a way for the artist to express free speech/art.

If you don’t like it don’t look at it!

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I don’t find it offensive at all, in its own way it is humorous. Some narrow-minded tards might not like it; I think it is a way for the artist to express free speech/art.

If you don’t like it don’t look at it!

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You give your opinion, which is fine, but then call others "narrow minded tards" if they do not agree with you. Is not narrow mindedness the unwillingness to accept the opinions of others? Ah, the delicious irony.

There is a logical fallacy in your assertion. How could one know whether or not they like a pic without looking at it?

The OP asked for opinions, and I gave mine.
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I don’t find it offensive at all, in its own way it is humorous. Some narrow-minded tards might not like it; I think it is a way for the artist to express free speech/art.

If you don’t like it don’t look at it!

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You give your opinion, which is fine, but then call others "narrow minded tards" if they do not agree with you. Is not narrow mindedness the unwillingness to accept the opinions of others? Ah, the delicious irony.

There is a logical fallacy in your assertion. How could one know whether or not they like a pic without looking at it?

The OP asked for opinions, and I gave mine.
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Yes and I appreciate your feedback. The photo is not ours but I saw the artistic streak in it. In the sense that we know 9/11 is a big lie, the first tower has the joint after being hit and he is passing to the second as you see the plane in the distance. It's almost like the joint represents the lie and at that point, the symbolism and hyperbole is apparent it would seem.

This is just the poster for the campaign, the info is coming starting July 23. We are doing 50 days of hardcore 9/11 truth which will end on Sept 11.
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Today's link.

Seahawks Coach Peppered 4-Star General With 9/11 ‘Conspiracy’ Questions

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Today's link.

Seahawks Coach Peppered 4-Star General With 9/11 ‘Conspiracy’ Questions

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That deserves it's own thread.
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I like it. I thought it shows you'd have to be stoned and not looking at the facts to believe the official 911 story. Just my interpretation.

Whatever it takes for people to ask questions. We have ae911 truth for intellectual and this picture (in my opinion) would get another segment of the population to ask intellectually.

Freedom of speech! If I died that day or anyone I knew, I would want fellow Americans to do whatever it took to inform the populace of the facts and put the responsible parties in jail. Even if it's done in a cartoon form, list of science facts, laws of physics, whatever. I have that page bookmarked and will be showing people. Just as I do the ae911 truth page.
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Want to add, if I can wake up, *anyone* can. If shown the factual evidence. I believed the whole story, hook line and sinker. Just put the idea in peoples head, it may take a few remarks from different people to get one certain person to question. That's what happened to me. Over the years, 4 different people mentioned 911. Then I was like, wtf are these people talking about. Ban. Started researching myself.

We all have a part to play and it is overwhelming in the beginning. If someone doesn't believe what you have to say, ask them to prove you wrong. They can't. Not if they're looking at the facts.
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Want to add, if I can wake up, *anyone* can. If shown the factual evidence. I believed the whole story, hook line and sinker. Just put the idea in peoples head, it may take a few remarks from different people to get one certain person to question. That's what happened to me. Over the years, 4 different people mentioned 911. Then I was like, wtf are these people talking about. Ban. Started researching myself.

We all have a part to play and it is overwhelming in the beginning. If someone doesn't believe what you have to say, ask them to prove you wrong. They can't. Not if they're looking at the facts.
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Yes, the progression is getting shorter too, we just have to keep it up. If 9/11 unravels...
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Should have waited till her vagina was 'all fired up', about 10 seconds by looking where the 2nd craft is.
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Personally I think it is brilliant.

It represents everything the Gov doesn't want us to have.

Life, liberty, freedom.

The Gov killed all those people.
The Gov is taking away all our liberties because of this event.
The gov has taken away all our "freedoms" to the point you can't even smoke what ever the hell you like.

The war on Drugs is as much a joke as the "terrorists" did it bullshit line we are fed.

Plus cartoons always get the younger crowd curious, maybe a few will see the photo, wonder what the hell?? and start looking for more information.

All it takes is a spark people. Hell people could be reading this thread after having seen that photo and THEN what will they think?
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Personally I think it is brilliant.

It represents everything the Gov doesn't want us to have.

Life, liberty, freedom.

The Gov killed all those people.
The Gov is taking away all our liberties because of this event.
The gov has taken away all our "freedoms" to the point you can't even smoke what ever the hell you like.

The war on Drugs is as much a joke as the "terrorists" did it bullshit line we are fed.

Plus cartoons always get the younger crowd curious, maybe a few will see the photo, wonder what the hell?? and start looking for more information.

All it takes is a spark people. Hell people could be reading this thread after having seen that photo and THEN what will they think?
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Exactly, it's very poetic. I was sent the link to a guy that claims to have made it but who knows. There are a few different memes of it out there already.
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Before I woke up I would have been offended.
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Before I woke up I would have been offended.
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This
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Before I woke up I would have been offended.
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Lol ya, fair point. I imagine with many ppl, it will either be the final straw that pushes them towards 9/11 truth, or it may be the first distasteful contact in the process of waking up. Ppl are so different that it will have varied effects.
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