Types of Counsciousness

from where did you ancestors came?

lol just to add.. I don't think having a spiritual connection makes any male "omega"

there are plenty of alpha-as-fuck men with lots of money, control, and power who still hold spiritual beliefs in synchronicity. just saying that having a deep spiritual connection does not in-and-of-itself make a male the lowest rank of the pack.

omega is more just being a straight-up emotionally weak male who treats every girl like a princess like they can do no wrong. then because of this attitude they get pushed around and stepped all over. but I do not think an alteration of their spiritual beliefs would affect that much!

yes, it was quite enjoyable :)

We Are Here for the World to be Reborn
those of us who feel as such
And each of Us has also a specific role in the Great Scheme of Humanity,
which is revealed in due time by the Higher Self

lol

it was a metaphor my friend.

he was not talking in the literal sense.
he was calling attention to the polar opposites.

for some will perish by sword and others live through thy ROSE

those alpha that you speak are spiritual materialists :)
completely under control of the Devic Plane,

we the Spiritual Omega are in Love with the Devic Feminine Deities

which are just 1000 different Faces of the

Mother of the World

:)))))))))))))

some of us are trying :)

best wishes

indeed
just that to be really precise Crown Chakra is the seat of "The seventh principle is just the eternal vital force which exists throughout the whole Cosmos"

while Heart in the Spiritual Sense refers to the Sixth Principle, Buddhi, which is usually connected with the third eye chakra

" You associate the sixth principle with the heart, and this is quite correct, as nothing can escape the heart. All energies are transmuted there. But there are many who are accustomed to connect the sixth principle, i.e., Buddhi, with the brain center, and they may oppose you. Nevertheless, precisely the sixth principle, in its highest aspect, is manifested in the heart."

The Permanent Fiery Atom, or Monad upon which the three bodies of man (physical, emotional and mental) are formed is in the Center of the Chest, not in the Top of the Head

So feeling intuition is connected with Anahata, indeed

But the Fiery Spiritual Heart is the 'brain' behind the Third Eye

similarly to how the brain in the head is the behind the 2 physical eyes.

This clears also the matter of why it is Not Wise to forcefully open the Third Eye, out of lower desires (the first 3 centers), either through meditation or drug induced experiences or prayer or whatever.

The Real Key was always in the Pure Aspiration of the Fiery Spiritual Heart

otherwise, if motivation lays in the lower centers, by opening the Third Eye, you just become a Portal for Devic Forces

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my experience with the Quest for the outwardly projected Feminine was very clearly differentiated between two layers

although at first i imagined that is only One Love (due to confusing personal and universal love at that moment - which btw i understood later as the exact square between Venus (personal love) and Neptune (universal love) i have in the natal chart)

as such there are on one hand, the women with which i had personal love affairs (i.e. sensual love), and with none of those i have Witnessed the Subtle Feminine presence

and on the other hand the women through which i had the Honour to Witness the Feminine archetype addressing me, and with none of these woman have i been involved in a personal sensual way.

The way i experienced those moments are of the same essence with synchronicities. In my case they happen in the following way. Suddenly and unexpected, out of the ordinary discussion, the tone of the voice has a subtle change, which transposes me in a Out of Time perspective, like in a fantasy tale where all the words She Says make perfect sense in the Narrative Logic of the Eternal Myth

hope this helps

to be Honest it seems Much more easy to marry as a Man, the Sophia inside

precisely because the Eternal Feminine was banished for the last 5k years from the Pantheon of Great Figures of Humanity

and as such She is carefully hidden in fairy tales

In the case of Women, the task of marrying the Christ inside
seems a very hard task due to all the Big Masculine Figures with which Humanity has been Overdosed

like Jesus, Buddha and all others

Thanks for sharing your insight and wisdom, my loved brother :o)
Much in sync, the Spirit have for some days wished for us to do some writing, explaining the difference between knowledge, which is connected with the first/lower mental level of perception, and wisdom/understanding, which are more of the two upper levels, into the spiritual intuition...
Now you have done it so perfectly...
Haven't had time to read all the thread through yet, but will do so later on...



Lots of love from Elle and me <3

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Partyyyy Time


and please Do add your Perspective upon These matters
One of These Days
for Each of Us are just localized beams of Light
Shining Forth
Through the Same Diamond of Spirit
and as more of Us
Hold tight the Beams that we Are
Spirit rebirths in Matter
Yet Again

much love to both of you


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I reunited with Sophia inside first and we hugged, and then not long after I married Christ within.

indeed,
but That Consciousness that you Speak oF
is Yet to Be Revealed
in our Inner Temples

this is the True Meaning of the Golden Age which has just started.

referred also in John 1.14
"The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth."

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So you went through the Path of Sisterhood,
to reach That Which in Truth Transcend all labels

As a man i went through the Path of falling in Love with the Opposing Arcehtype

i imagine it is also possible that as a woman one can reach through the path of Love
and as a man one can reach through the Path of Brotherhood

Exactly
Through knowing ourselves we know eachother
And realize how Oneness are flowing in here
Spirit into matter
Reviving the densest

Just read your OP for Elle, she was most happy about it and sends lots of love

I think I have described it a few times, this way:
We have our mind-mind - the mind that is closed in around itself and it's own logic.
This mind is connected with the ego and mirrors everything into its own logic...
Mirroring it without really understanding and embracing...
This mind-mind, is caged in behing walls of fear and control, bc it doesn't like the deep water, where its shallow logic ends...
Also it is connected with the lower emotional level, which are mostly concerned about self-preservation for the individual being...
To pass beyond these wars of fear and control, it is needed to awaken the heart...
This can be done, in a symbolic sense, with the sword of Truth, a leap of faith, where the heart is cut open, and the dormant flame is revived...
This opens up the individual to iflow from the soul, which is love in a collective, true sense, and also to understand the wisdom that lies behind...
That which you describe as beyond any narrative...
The true Spirit, the crown...
The heart and the crown, intuition and true wisdom is connected by a bridge, that manifest by the crown in the heart and the heart in the crown...
This rainbow bridge is the gateway to the age of love-miracles to become a reality in this world...
In and through everything...
God, our Divine Mother and Father dance into our being, through our relations...

Just some ponderings, lol

<3

Great thread Andreida,

I feel this so strongly in my heart. A few years ago I was given my role after having a realisation experience, need to work harder at it and maybe find a job in the community to do such.

Was reading this today, thought I'd share, apologies for the wall of text for those that don't like such.

Four Primary Motivations

The innumerable desires that propel this cycle of birth, death and rebirth span the entire spectrum of all human hopes and fears, dreams and aspirations, yet are seen in the Vedic tradition as all being related to one of four primary motivations.

The first of these is kama (worldly enjoyment) or the desire for sensory pleasure of all varieties, though the word is oftentimes mistranslated to mean purely sexual pleasure. An individual living a life in which this motivation predominates is what we might call a sensualist or hedonist. Someone like Hugh Hefner, or at least the playboy image that he sought to personify, might exemplify a life where kama is the primary aim.

The second is called artha (wealth), which refers to the desire to acquire the things of this world and enjoy their comforts. Whereas on one level this can mean purely material wealth and all the things that can be purchased with it, on another level this also refers to the desire to have a mate and family, as well as other close human relationships like friends, business associates and the like.

As we look around us, the vast majority of individuals appear to fall in this category in that they are predominately motivated by the desire to hold a position, have status within society and acquire wealth. In keeping with this is the concurrent wish to marry, have children, own property and live a comfortable life materially. All of this is subsumed under the notion of artha, which refers primary to the desire to acquire and possess.

The third motivation is dharma, a word that does not translate easily, but which connotes the desire to do good deeds in the world, to be of benefit to others, and make the world a better place.

These are the people who pursue humanitarian careers or pursuits not out of a desire for personal enjoyment or economic gain, but from a wish to serve mankind, and out of a sense that it is “the right thing to do.” Those individuals whose lives are predominately motivated by dharma or moral duty become the Jonus Salks, Albert Schwitzers and Mother Theresas of the world.

The last category is moksha, which means “spiritual liberation.” In the West, we would call this fourth motivation the desire to obtain “salvation” or “to get to heaven.” These are the rare individuals for whom the attractions of the world no longer hold any interest, and who seek a direct experience of a higher, more permanent reality. Historical figures such as St. Francis of Assisi, or The Buddha, both of whom renounced all worldly pursuits very early in life in order to pursue spiritual aims, are examples of individuals in whom the impulse towards moksha is predominating.

The idea here is not that someone is born and continuously expresses in their life just one of these motivations. This would be considered rather atypical. Most of mankind is motivated throughout life by all of these aims, to various degrees, and at different phases of their existence. St Augustine spent the first half of his life in the relentless pursuit of sensual indulgence, and the later half in seeking salvation.

However, according to the Vedic tradition there is also a point to all this striving, an end state to all the soul’s desires and longings, and this is referred to as a state of “God-realization.” The tradition holds that the only experience that will ever be completely fulfilling, that won’t leave the soul longing for more, is the direct experience of God.

In fact, the whole dance of creation is seen as nothing but “God’s play,” a great cosmic game of hide and seek so that eventually “the Self might again behold the Self and realize that it is the Self.” This, proclaimed the enlightened sages of ancient India, is the ending point and culmination of an evolutionary path that the soul is traveling over many lifetimes. And they saw encrypted in the planetary patterns at birth a karmic code, revealing the soul’s present inclinations concerning kama, artha, dharma, and moskha.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

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For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. John 1:17

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to be a honest, i find this four fold division a little confusing

i'll try to rephrase it in the seven-fold division

kama - is for sure referring to 2nd chakra
artha - comprises both 1st and 3rd chakras
1st - enjoying of material comforts
3rd - enjoying power, control and authority over other human beings - be it one's children, spouse, employees, spiritual followers, students etc

dharma - seems to put together 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th

which is interesting if you correlate to this:

"Thus, in order to reach true immortality and to achieve a conscious manifestation on all planes, that is, to become an Arhat, a Buddha or a Dhyan Chohan, man must connect the three principles (the fourth, fifth and seventh) here on Earth and merge them together, precisely in the sixth principle. The seventh principle is just the eternal vital force which exists throughout the whole Cosmos. Therefore, perhaps it would be better to say: Absolute Intelligence and Perfect Heart, being one and the same Origin, correspond to the higher aspect of man, wherein his spirit, intellect, and all his feelings are fierily transmuted and are centralized in the heart - in short, when the intellect becomes a heart and the heart becomes an intellect. With this understanding the reader will be able to avoid many perplexities. "

This is the Path of Boddhidharma


as for Moskha, it is hard for me to understand it as the Greatest Spiritual Motivation

rather, it is an exoteric confusion of the Real Path of Buddha, Christ and so on
which were all committed to the Bodhisattva Path

it would be very ironic if all those waiting for all kinds of raptures and/or end of the worlds
would be the Greatest Spiritual Achievers :)


also if you look to the Seven Spirit of the Churches metaphor in revelations,
the Church of Thyatira is clearly connected with Kama in the above division
and surely one can classify all others in respect to basic motivations

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Nice description op. Thank you for this enlightening thread

I seem to have gone through this process without any understanding of what i was doing. Makes sense why I've been feeling the way I do the last year or so.
Also maybe if i was actually seeking such it wouldn't have happened. I'm learning that when you put expectancy on something it doesn't happen :)

Lately in group meditations a lot of energy builds up on just the right side of my head, very strongly.

was thinking its related, not sure what to make of it.

glad you found it useful brother

much love

thanks for explaining


to be a honest, i find this four fold division a little confusing

i'll try to rephrase it in the seven-fold division

kama - is for sure referring to 2nd chakra
artha - comprises both 1st and 3rd chakras
1st - enjoying of material comforts
3rd - enjoying power, control and authority over other human beings - be it one's children, spouse, employees, spiritual followers, students etc

dharma - seems to put together 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th

which is interesting if you correlate to this:

"Thus, in order to reach true immortality and to achieve a conscious manifestation on all planes, that is, to become an Arhat, a Buddha or a Dhyan Chohan, man must connect the three principles (the fourth, fifth and seventh) here on Earth and merge them together, precisely in the sixth principle. The seventh principle is just the eternal vital force which exists throughout the whole Cosmos. Therefore, perhaps it would be better to say: Absolute Intelligence and Perfect Heart, being one and the same Origin, correspond to the higher aspect of man, wherein his spirit, intellect, and all his feelings are fierily transmuted and are centralized in the heart - in short, when the intellect becomes a heart and the heart becomes an intellect. With this understanding the reader will be able to avoid many perplexities. "

This is the Path of Boddhidharma


as for Moskha, it is hard for me to understand it as the Greatest Spiritual Motivation

rather, it is an exoteric confusion of the Real Path of Buddha, Christ and so on
which were all committed to the Bodhisattva Path

it would be very ironic if all those waiting for all kinds of raptures and/or end of the worlds
would be the Greatest Spiritual Achievers :)


also if you look to the Seven Spirit of the Churches metaphor in revelations,
the Church of Thyatira is clearly connected with Kama in the above division
and surely one can classify all others in respect to basic motivations

this is indeed a classic depiction by now



although the 'mentor' addition can be kind of tricky
i for one, did not have the pleasure of meeting an outwardly recognizable 'mentor'
have met quite a few pretenders, though

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Also i Guarantee You
That None Whatsoever involved
in Hierarchical 'brotherhoods'
especially so called high-figures
be it they of churches or other organizations
Have Had received the GIFT of the True Goddess

Also None of Them Have Really Died and Reborn in the Subjective Sense
But They are going to pass this Initiation
Together
Soon