Types of Counsciousness

maybe if people spoke of their very first spiritual happenings, that began their transformations.

we can't all be crazy.

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I feel you. My own sister has not talked to me in 11 years because I left the family religion. When I was in religion, I always felt empty, like something was off, missing from my life. I felt as though they judged everyone as being better than others, and I didn't agree. There were times while at church, I would go in my car and cry not even knowing why.

I really don't care or think about what happens in the world, I'm not involved in a lot of it and have no idea what the leaders and politicians are doing. I never was a voter and never will be.

Our actions are synchronized to control things like economic collapses, and weather disasters, stuff like that. We more or less make it more fucked for people rather than good from where I am. We don't do it on purpose either, it's just an after effect of the things we have to do in this life. The separation keeps us indifferent from it. I know it sounds cold but there is no sense in feeling guilty over something we aren't being held accountable for.

The truth I believe is that I'm in hell to suffer so that when I return to myself, I will never forget the lessons learned here, and I'm gonna have a long time after all this to remember. I still feel sympathy for all of you.

I am that we are.

Maybe because you are still feeling Sadness ?

Maybe because you didn't get over the selfish and selfless stage ?

Maybe because you Need to let go as in let all be because everything has a reason to Be ?

Hmm....

Yea, mine doesn't talk to me either, I don't even bother saying hello to her because she just ignores me. But my husband and I were just talking about this yesterday because of an incident with my dad, my husband said they have levels of respect and we are not very high on their judgment ladder. We are at the way bottom, yet my dad will use us and suck us dry if he could. And he's a multi millionaire.

The Question is Are You Joining In?

maybe you will believe you are in Hell
until you will realize that you are in Paradise
some things change right near us
if we tend to look in the other direction
a classic trick of the magicians :)

When we live in a universe where life forms prey on each other to live, from the microscopic, to the macro world, where entropy and chaos rule, and when sentients choose selfishness as a norm, I can think of this as a hell universe. I can argue this logically and spiritually.

Those who look into nature and see peace are fooling themselves. We can be peaceful, but don't pretend it's universal. We can feel love, we can be love, but that doesn't make it less hell, losing loved ones is a unique form of suffering.

It is not about Guilt.
It is about Compassion.
Universal in respect to at least All Human Beings
That is what Humanity is about.
To Feel in Your Heart for
the Children Dying of Hunger in Somalia
To Feel for Them
in the same way
You Would Feel
If Your Own Child
Will Suffer a Similar Fate
This is the Call of Gaia
And Only Those that take heed of this Call
Shall Remain Here

Btw...

We met before on this forum, andreidita... you might remember me under the name Siberia...

Please forgive me for replying on your thread.
I will say nothing more, because our points of view are not the same and i don;t need to see anyone offended by my words.

For the Creation is Unity in which nothing is Good and nothing is Bad... everything IS..
And for my understanding, one must be inLove with Life itself and live it with a big smile on his or her face.

What for is all the knowledge you are gathering through lives if you cannot enjoy everything that comes on your paths ?
What for is all that knowledge if you cannot See that all has a reason and all is in balance as it is ?

Is just my opinion and again... do forgive me for my silly words.

Be blessed.

(Imi pare rau ca te-am deranjat cu raspunsul meu... Imi vad de drum :-) Iti doresc sa ai o noapte minunata)

Actually, it was children that put me on this path. But like Paler, I lost a lot of things along the way. Every child that crosses my path I treat as my own. I can't do anything for children on the other side of the world, trust me, I already tried, religion and people ranking themselves higher then them got in the way. Art was a part of that plan and I just lost all interest in Art along with a bunch of other worldly things. I used to paint and hear them talk to me in my mind, then I went to go find them and I did. They are grown up now and probably have their own children. I did what I could for them at the time, it wasn't much, it was just treating them with dignity that they never had.

Ok what does a stone prey upon
what does a spring prey upon
what does a rose prey upon
what does a bee prey upon
what does a dolphin prey upon
what does even a cow prey upon

?

why do you think the logic of pray/prey is eternal?

and why do you focus on 'prey' rather then 'pray'

for a Rose Prays with its Beautiful Color for the Bee to give a Visit of Love, so that Both could Live On

Btw...

We met before on this forum, andreidita... you might remember me under the name Siberia...

Please forgive me for replying on your thread.
I will say nothing more, because our points of view are not the same and i don;t need to see anyone offended by my words.

For the Creation is Unity in which nothing is Good and nothing is Bad... everything IS..
And for my understanding, one must be inLove with Life itself and live it with a big smile on his or her face.

What for is all the knowledge you are gathering through lives if you cannot enjoy everything that comes on your paths ?
What for is all that knowledge if you cannot See that all has a reason and all is in balance as it is ?

Is just my opinion and again... do forgive me for my silly words.

Be blessed.

(Imi pare rau ca te-am deranjat cu raspunsul meu... Imi vad de drum :-) Iti doresc sa ai o noapte minunata)

You ask some good questions and some of us share the same answers as you. I'm even surprised I'm involved in this discussion. Like wtf do I care, I'm past that.

Oh well.

A stone is rarely sentient, we're talking about lessons of the soul.

Sentient springs are fantasy material.

Roses are very adept at pushing out other plant species from their area. Plants are not peaceful.

Bees are adept at war.

Dolphins are very violent, look it up. Not all the time, of course.

Cows eat plants, plants are lifeforms, even if most are not sentient.

Pray vs prey? I never brought up pray.

Prey makes sense, because you can witness it. Lifeforms almost universally live off other life forms. Prey is universal.

You believe in prayer, I do not. I admit through belief one can do amazing things, I do, but it doesn't prove anything but the power of the mind.

There may be plenty of souls watching this universe, I do not believe there is a God watching. No need, all happens as it will, which is all there is. Places like this teach hard lessons, but needed ones. I'm just tired of mine, but I still live with compassion and love.
I just get frustrated at the slow lesson learners.

Andreidita I appreciate your thoughts and experience, this is my first and only experience in this reality, and I've learned a lot, but don't confuse inner peace and love, with how this reality is. Wide eyed looking is more honest and we all learn more from it. Never confuse how you want things to be, with what they are.

Good luck.

i'll write this in the abstract mode.

there are roughly 4 ways upon which the human being/consciousness can currently function, which can be grouped on 2 layers (each having its rational and intuitional sides

The Lower Level is formed by

1st rational - mechanical thinking logic based on sensory inputs (i.e. thinking used in practical affairs etc), - 3d

2nd intuitional - emotional level (astral) - beliefs are usually rooted at this level


The Upper Layer is formed by

3rd rational - abstract thinking - scientific mind, music composers, platonic world of ideas, seeing the concept behind the word/label

4th intuitional- spiritual intuition - direct spiritual intuition, sense of mission, higher calling, subtle conscious perceptions



the basic average joe of today functions only on the first layer. They are conscious only of the 1st, while the 2nd is largely in the subconscious area.
they are not aware of the real source of their beliefs, which resides in the astral/emotional level (e.g. fear based )

these are the perfect targets of mainstream religion, politics etc aka Sheep
they come in many flavours religious, political, special group rights etc

the 3rd level was a new comer in the last age (roughly 25.000 bc - 2.000 ad) - it really took off on a large scale with the enlightenment period. - this is usually the place of atheists. this happens because as the 3rd is a higher expression of the 1st, the 2nd level is also largely in the subconscious zone.
the focus is on liberty and truth

the 4th level was very rare in the last/current era - seers etc. it will be largely developed in the coming era of which those who understand this text are the vanguard. heart consciousness rests at this level. from this level one is able to see for example the common trait of all religions - the golden rule.
the focus is on universal compassion


agnosticism lays on the threshold between 3rd and 4th level.
when one makes the breakthrough, one starts to see the common divine source in all there is. which in itself is beyond labels and denominations (i.e. pantheism)

roughly there are two core vanguard teams. the abstract/mind team with skills on the 3rd level
and the heart team with skills on the 4th level. those of the heart team do not necessarily have also abstract skills, and vice-versa

Hey Brother,

Namaste

Think I have been visiting 5 the level. Kinda fun up here. I come back from time to time...

Amethyst…



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trying to quantify, something that cannot be quantified, by the use of numbers, labels, etc., is a very bumpy road.

good luck.