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Mary was NOT a virgin - repeat - MARY WAS NOT A VIRGIN!!!

 
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I'm always amazed to see people, who are normally highly intelligent, suddenly turn into ignorant morons the moment they are confronted with "religious" dogma. If you would ask these people whether their female cat could become pregnant without being exposed to a "tom" cat, they would tell you - in no way, unless through AI (artificial insemination).

Yet, these same "intelligent" people believe the silly story of Mary being impregnated by some invisible force called the "Holy Spirit."

Well, I have news for you - If it doesn't work for cats and dogs, it doesn't work with humans either!! Mary did not get impregnated by some invisible force. SHE WAS RAPED!@!!

“Jesus was the son of a certain Julius whose surname was Panthera.” St Epiphanius, Bishop of Salamis (315-403)

Origen supports the Jewish records and confirms that the paramour (lillicit partner of a married person) of the mother of Jesus was a Roman soldier called Panthera, a name he repeats in verse 1:69. Some time during the 17th century, those sentences were erased from the oldest Vatican manuscripts and other codices under Church control. This is an extraordinary declaration, simply recorded in ancient records as accepted Church history. The ben Panthera legend was so widespread that two early stalwarts of the Christian Church inserted the name in the genealogies of Jesus and Mary as a matter of fact. Enlarging on that statement, this passage from the Talmud:

Rabbi Shiemon ben Azzai has said: I found in Jerusalem a book of genealogies; therein was written that Such-an-one [Jesus] is the bastard son of an adulteress.15

"Such-an-one" was one of the well-known substitutes for Jesus in the Talmud. The story of Mary’s pregnancy by a Roman soldier also appears in the sacred book of the Moslems, the Koran. It states that "a full-grown man" forced his attentions on Mary, and in her fear of the disgrace that would follow she left the area and bore Jesus in secret. This story was supported in the Gospel of Luke, with the description of the departure of Joseph and Mary from their home prior to the birth. Rape was a common event in Palestine during the Roman occupation, and soldiers were notorious for their treatment of young women. It would be unthinkable for Mary to admit such an event had occurred, for under the Law of Moses a betrothed virgin who had sex with any man during the period of her betrothal was to be stoned to death by the men of the city (Deut. 22:21). Simply put, Mary faced the death penalty unless she could prove her innocence.16 [link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]


“Some said, Mary conceived by the Holy Spirit, they are in error.” Gospel of Phillip

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Of course the baby was human.
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From the talmud? lol...talmud is babylonian mysticism ..also the jews hated jesus so of course they would write bad stuff about him. Didnt the religious leaders have him crucified? Who you think wrote the talmud ? THE JEWISH RELIGIOUS LEADERS !!

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Of course the baby was human.
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In Isaiah 7:14 we read, “Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel.” In Hebrew it reads, “Hinneh ha-almah harah ve-yeldeth ben ve-karath shem-o Immanuel.” In Hebrew the word almah simply means ‘young woman’ NOT virgin.

The proper term for virgin is bethulah. “As early as the second century B.C.,” says the distinguished Hebrew scholar and critic, Salomon Reinach, “the Jews perceived the error and pointed it out to the Greeks; but the Church knowingly persisted in the false reading, and for over fifteen centuries has clung to her error.” (Orpheus, p. 197.) Then, when St. Jerome translated the Hebrew Bible into Latin, known as the Vulgate version which includes the N.T. where the same passage appears again in Matthew 1:23, he intentionally “clung to the error” even though Jerome knew full well that it was an error and false. Hebrew scholars were outraged!!

So insistent was the criticism, that Jerome was driven to write a book on the subject, in which he makes a very notable confession of the inherent incredibility of the Holy Ghost paternity-story. He wrote, “For who at that time would have believed the Virgin’s word that she had conceived of the Holy Ghost, and that the angel Gabriel had come and announced the purpose of God? And would not all have given their opinion against her as an adulteress, like Susanna? For at the present day, now that the whole world has embraced the faith, the Jews argue, that when Isaiah says, ‘Behold, a virgin shall conceive and bear a son,’ the Hebrew word denotes a young woman, not a virgin,

that is to say, the word is ALMAH not BETHULAH’!! (Jerome, the Perpetual Virginity of Blessed Mary, N&PNF, vi, 336.)

And to this very day this blatant, deliberate LIE continues to be taught to unsuspecting sincere people.
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you're a heinous blasphemer, OP; you should know

wake up already, and believe in Lord Yeshua Messiah (Jesus) as Lord and Savior. Lord Yeshua is the ONLY way to salvation.

TIME IS VERY SHORT, OP. TRUE. WAKE UP!
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I'm always amazed to see people, who are normally highly intelligent, suddenly turn into ignorant morons the moment they are confronted with "religious" dogma. If you would ask these people whether their female cat could become pregnant without being exposed to a "tom" cat, they would tell you - in no way, unless through AI (artificial insemination).

Yet, these same "intelligent" people believe the silly story of Mary being impregnated by some invisible force called the "Holy Spirit."

Well, I have news for you - If it doesn't work for cats and dogs, it doesn't work with humans either!! Mary did not get impregnated by some invisible force. SHE WAS RAPED!@!!

“Jesus was the son of a certain Julius whose surname was Panthera.” St Epiphanius, Bishop of Salamis (315-403)

Origen supports the Jewish records and confirms that the paramour (lillicit partner of a married person) of the mother of Jesus was a Roman soldier called Panthera, a name he repeats in verse 1:69. Some time during the 17th century, those sentences were erased from the oldest Vatican manuscripts and other codices under Church control. This is an extraordinary declaration, simply recorded in ancient records as accepted Church history. The ben Panthera legend was so widespread that two early stalwarts of the Christian Church inserted the name in the genealogies of Jesus and Mary as a matter of fact. Enlarging on that statement, this passage from the Talmud:

Rabbi Shiemon ben Azzai has said: I found in Jerusalem a book of genealogies; therein was written that Such-an-one [Jesus] is the bastard son of an adulteress.15

"Such-an-one" was one of the well-known substitutes for Jesus in the Talmud. The story of Mary’s pregnancy by a Roman soldier also appears in the sacred book of the Moslems, the Koran. It states that "a full-grown man" forced his attentions on Mary, and in her fear of the disgrace that would follow she left the area and bore Jesus in secret. This story was supported in the Gospel of Luke, with the description of the departure of Joseph and Mary from their home prior to the birth. Rape was a common event in Palestine during the Roman occupation, and soldiers were notorious for their treatment of young women. It would be unthinkable for Mary to admit such an event had occurred, for under the Law of Moses a betrothed virgin who had sex with any man during the period of her betrothal was to be stoned to death by the men of the city (Deut. 22:21). Simply put, Mary faced the death penalty unless she could prove her innocence.16 [link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]


“Some said, Mary conceived by the Holy Spirit, they are in error.” Gospel of Phillip

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You blasphemer! How can you even sleep at night? For the love of God, repent while there is yet time! O.O
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I'm always amazed to see people, who are normally highly intelligent, suddenly turn into ignorant morons the moment they are confronted with "religious" dogma. If you would ask these people whether their female cat could become pregnant without being exposed to a "tom" cat, they would tell you - in no way, unless through AI (artificial insemination).

Yet, these same "intelligent" people believe the silly story of Mary being impregnated by some invisible force called the "Holy Spirit."

Well, I have news for you - If it doesn't work for cats and dogs, it doesn't work with humans either!! Mary did not get impregnated by some invisible force. SHE WAS RAPED!@!!

“Jesus was the son of a certain Julius whose surname was Panthera.” St Epiphanius, Bishop of Salamis (315-403)

Origen supports the Jewish records and confirms that the paramour (lillicit partner of a married person) of the mother of Jesus was a Roman soldier called Panthera, a name he repeats in verse 1:69. Some time during the 17th century, those sentences were erased from the oldest Vatican manuscripts and other codices under Church control. This is an extraordinary declaration, simply recorded in ancient records as accepted Church history. The ben Panthera legend was so widespread that two early stalwarts of the Christian Church inserted the name in the genealogies of Jesus and Mary as a matter of fact. Enlarging on that statement, this passage from the Talmud:

Rabbi Shiemon ben Azzai has said: I found in Jerusalem a book of genealogies; therein was written that Such-an-one [Jesus] is the bastard son of an adulteress.15

"Such-an-one" was one of the well-known substitutes for Jesus in the Talmud. The story of Mary’s pregnancy by a Roman soldier also appears in the sacred book of the Moslems, the Koran. It states that "a full-grown man" forced his attentions on Mary, and in her fear of the disgrace that would follow she left the area and bore Jesus in secret. This story was supported in the Gospel of Luke, with the description of the departure of Joseph and Mary from their home prior to the birth. Rape was a common event in Palestine during the Roman occupation, and soldiers were notorious for their treatment of young women. It would be unthinkable for Mary to admit such an event had occurred, for under the Law of Moses a betrothed virgin who had sex with any man during the period of her betrothal was to be stoned to death by the men of the city (Deut. 22:21). Simply put, Mary faced the death penalty unless she could prove her innocence.16 [link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]


“Some said, Mary conceived by the Holy Spirit, they are in error.” Gospel of Phillip

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Makes perfect sense.
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From the talmud? lol...talmud is babylonian mysticism ..also the jews hated jesus so of course they would write bad stuff about him. Didnt the religious leaders have him crucified? Who you think wrote the talmud ? THE JEWISH RELIGIOUS LEADERS !!

USE YOUR BRAIN MORAN
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Explain yourself please. Was Mary a virgin or not? I give a good god damn whether it was the "Talmud" or some other "religious" shit source!! All I want you to do is tell me if it was possible for Mary to become pregnant without being fucked by some male dude - YES OR NO???
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"oh what a web we weave,
when first we practice to deceive"
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you're a heinous blasphemer, OP; you should know

wake up already, and believe in Lord Yeshua Messiah (Jesus) as Lord and Savior. Lord Yeshua is the ONLY way to salvation.

TIME IS VERY SHORT, OP. TRUE. WAKE UP!
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I woke up to the deception about 20 years ago. Now it's YOUR TURN!!
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I'm always amazed to see people, who are normally highly intelligent, suddenly turn into ignorant morons the moment they are confronted with "religious" dogma. If you would ask these people whether their female cat could become pregnant without being exposed to a "tom" cat, they would tell you - in no way, unless through AI (artificial insemination).

Yet, these same "intelligent" people believe the silly story of Mary being impregnated by some invisible force called the "Holy Spirit."

Well, I have news for you - If it doesn't work for cats and dogs, it doesn't work with humans either!! Mary did not get impregnated by some invisible force. SHE WAS RAPED!@!!

“Jesus was the son of a certain Julius whose surname was Panthera.” St Epiphanius, Bishop of Salamis (315-403)

Origen supports the Jewish records and confirms that the paramour (lillicit partner of a married person) of the mother of Jesus was a Roman soldier called Panthera, a name he repeats in verse 1:69. Some time during the 17th century, those sentences were erased from the oldest Vatican manuscripts and other codices under Church control. This is an extraordinary declaration, simply recorded in ancient records as accepted Church history. The ben Panthera legend was so widespread that two early stalwarts of the Christian Church inserted the name in the genealogies of Jesus and Mary as a matter of fact. Enlarging on that statement, this passage from the Talmud:

Rabbi Shiemon ben Azzai has said: I found in Jerusalem a book of genealogies; therein was written that Such-an-one [Jesus] is the bastard son of an adulteress.15

"Such-an-one" was one of the well-known substitutes for Jesus in the Talmud. The story of Mary’s pregnancy by a Roman soldier also appears in the sacred book of the Moslems, the Koran. It states that "a full-grown man" forced his attentions on Mary, and in her fear of the disgrace that would follow she left the area and bore Jesus in secret. This story was supported in the Gospel of Luke, with the description of the departure of Joseph and Mary from their home prior to the birth. Rape was a common event in Palestine during the Roman occupation, and soldiers were notorious for their treatment of young women. It would be unthinkable for Mary to admit such an event had occurred, for under the Law of Moses a betrothed virgin who had sex with any man during the period of her betrothal was to be stoned to death by the men of the city (Deut. 22:21). Simply put, Mary faced the death penalty unless she could prove her innocence.16 [link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]


“Some said, Mary conceived by the Holy Spirit, they are in error.” Gospel of Phillip

 Quoting: beebee


You blasphemer! How can you even sleep at night? For the love of God, repent while there is yet time! O.O
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Do I detect satire???? hf
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Can you imagine if this happened in our age.

FAKE! PHOTOSHOP!

I'd say that time was more honest than now.
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"oh what a web we weave,
when first we practice to deceive"
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This "deception" is now about 2,000 years old!!!! WAKE UP PEOPLE

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Mary WAS a virgin!!.....as long as you don't count anal ;)
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I woke up to the deception about 20 years ago. Now it's YOUR TURN!!
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You do know that Mary was the female equivalent of a Priest, right?

Lu:1:5:
There was in the days of Herod,
the king of Judaea,
a certain priest named Zacharias,
of the course of Abia:
and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron,
and her name was Elisabeth.

Lu:1:34:
Then said Mary unto the angel,
How shall this be,
seeing I know not a man?
Lu:1:35:
And the angel answered and said unto her,
The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee,
and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee:
therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
Lu:1:36:
And,
behold,
thy cousin Elisabeth,
she hath also conceived a son in her old age:
and this is the sixth month with her,
who was called barren.

Mary would have been getting on in years also, at the cross she would have been very old and Joseph would have already passed away from old age by the time the cross happened.
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I woke up to the deception about 20 years ago. Now it's YOUR TURN!!
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You do know that Mary was the female equivalent of a Priest, right?


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So she fucked herself????????
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you're a heinous blasphemer, OP; you should know

wake up already, and believe in Lord Yeshua Messiah (Jesus) as Lord and Savior. Lord Yeshua is the ONLY way to salvation.

TIME IS VERY SHORT, OP. TRUE. WAKE UP!
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I woke up to the deception about 20 years ago. Now it's YOUR TURN!!
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NO YOU GOT DECIEVED 20 YEARS AGO
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I will explain it to you..


Genesis 3:15

And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

No woman on earth was ever born with seed ....only mary.

ergo she was a virgin at comception of jesus...she didnt need seed from a male.
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How do you know there was even a Mary?

These books, written by who knows!, over the last thousands of years have been confiscated by armies, given to kings, edited to their tastes, given back to priests, rinsed, re-translated and re-interpreted over and over and over again throughout history.

We don't even know if the original stories ever really happened at all.

The thing is......these stories give people hope. So they hold on. But why? Do we really HAVE to know? Do we have to have it all figured out? What is the gain? A little comfort in this physical life?

I can't understand why people can't accept the fact that they don't know!

Why not stand up in a church and say "You know what? I don't know why I'm floating in the middle of infinity on a very, very, VERY small little blue marble!,,,,,,,but you know what? I'm ok with not knowing, because to blindly believe in whatever religion and book comes my way from the past, or from my family, would be a travesty to myself. Because I seek the truth. And I'm not content to lie to myself.

And if that means I have to sit for a while, not knowing anything at all of my origins and having no knowledge whatsoever of why I'm here or where I've come from in this world and feeling completely alone when everyone else runs off to church in their Sunday best...."

Well,

I'll take it.

Because it's far better than a lie. And I know a true blossom comes from that.
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Bump for later research and review.
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So she fucked herself????????
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No but you have probably done that to yourself in the God section of life. lol don't sweat it it isn't a permanent condition.
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yeah, you lost your credibility with the cap locks

caps locks are a no no. crazies us caps locks. this thread is void.
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So uh why are you so mad and blasting people over this?
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I'm always amazed to see people, who are normally highly intelligent, suddenly turn into ignorant morons the moment they are confronted with "religious" dogma. If you would ask these people whether their female cat could become pregnant without being exposed to a "tom" cat, they would tell you - in no way, unless through AI (artificial insemination).

Yet, these same "intelligent" people believe the silly story of Mary being impregnated by some invisible force called the "Holy Spirit."

Well, I have news for you - If it doesn't work for cats and dogs, it doesn't work with humans either!! Mary did not get impregnated by some invisible force. SHE WAS RAPED!@!!

“Jesus was the son of a certain Julius whose surname was Panthera.” St Epiphanius, Bishop of Salamis (315-403)

Origen supports the Jewish records and confirms that the paramour (lillicit partner of a married person) of the mother of Jesus was a Roman soldier called Panthera, a name he repeats in verse 1:69. Some time during the 17th century, those sentences were erased from the oldest Vatican manuscripts and other codices under Church control. This is an extraordinary declaration, simply recorded in ancient records as accepted Church history. The ben Panthera legend was so widespread that two early stalwarts of the Christian Church inserted the name in the genealogies of Jesus and Mary as a matter of fact. Enlarging on that statement, this passage from the Talmud:

Rabbi Shiemon ben Azzai has said: I found in Jerusalem a book of genealogies; therein was written that Such-an-one [Jesus] is the bastard son of an adulteress.15

"Such-an-one" was one of the well-known substitutes for Jesus in the Talmud. The story of Mary’s pregnancy by a Roman soldier also appears in the sacred book of the Moslems, the Koran. It states that "a full-grown man" forced his attentions on Mary, and in her fear of the disgrace that would follow she left the area and bore Jesus in secret. This story was supported in the Gospel of Luke, with the description of the departure of Joseph and Mary from their home prior to the birth. Rape was a common event in Palestine during the Roman occupation, and soldiers were notorious for their treatment of young women. It would be unthinkable for Mary to admit such an event had occurred, for under the Law of Moses a betrothed virgin who had sex with any man during the period of her betrothal was to be stoned to death by the men of the city (Deut. 22:21). Simply put, Mary faced the death penalty unless she could prove her innocence.16 [link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]


“Some said, Mary conceived by the Holy Spirit, they are in error.” Gospel of Phillip

 Quoting: beebee

Try Studying up on up parthenogenesis:

parthenogenesis (pärˌthənōjĕnˈəsĭs) [key] [Gr., = virgin birth], in biology, a form of reproduction in which the ovum develops into a new individual without fertilization. Natural parthenogenesis has been observed in many lower animals (it is characteristic of the rotifers), especially insects, e.g., the aphid. In many social insects, such as the honeybee and the ant, the unfertilized eggs give rise to the male drones and the fertilized eggs to the female workers and queens. Parthenogenesis has also been observed in some snakes, fish, and monitor lizards. The phenomenon is rarer among plants (where it is called parthenocarpy) than among animals. Unusual patterns of heredity can occur in parthenogenetic organisms. For example, offspring produced by some types are identical in all inherited respects to the mother.

The Greeks even invented a word for this phenomenon.
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You blasphemer! How can you even sleep at night? For the love of God, repent while there is yet time! O.O
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I'm always amazed to see people, who are normally highly intelligent, suddenly turn into ignorant morons the moment they are confronted with "religious" dogma. If you would ask these people whether their female cat could become pregnant without being exposed to a "tom" cat, they would tell you - in no way, unless through AI (artificial insemination).

Yet, these same "intelligent" people believe the silly story of Mary being impregnated by some invisible force called the "Holy Spirit."

Well, I have news for you - If it doesn't work for cats and dogs, it doesn't work with humans either!! Mary did not get impregnated by some invisible force. SHE WAS RAPED!@!!

“Jesus was the son of a certain Julius whose surname was Panthera.” St Epiphanius, Bishop of Salamis (315-403)

Origen supports the Jewish records and confirms that the paramour (lillicit partner of a married person) of the mother of Jesus was a Roman soldier called Panthera, a name he repeats in verse 1:69. Some time during the 17th century, those sentences were erased from the oldest Vatican manuscripts and other codices under Church control. This is an extraordinary declaration, simply recorded in ancient records as accepted Church history. The ben Panthera legend was so widespread that two early stalwarts of the Christian Church inserted the name in the genealogies of Jesus and Mary as a matter of fact. Enlarging on that statement, this passage from the Talmud:

Rabbi Shiemon ben Azzai has said: I found in Jerusalem a book of genealogies; therein was written that Such-an-one [Jesus] is the bastard son of an adulteress.15

"Such-an-one" was one of the well-known substitutes for Jesus in the Talmud. The story of Mary’s pregnancy by a Roman soldier also appears in the sacred book of the Moslems, the Koran. It states that "a full-grown man" forced his attentions on Mary, and in her fear of the disgrace that would follow she left the area and bore Jesus in secret. This story was supported in the Gospel of Luke, with the description of the departure of Joseph and Mary from their home prior to the birth. Rape was a common event in Palestine during the Roman occupation, and soldiers were notorious for their treatment of young women. It would be unthinkable for Mary to admit such an event had occurred, for under the Law of Moses a betrothed virgin who had sex with any man during the period of her betrothal was to be stoned to death by the men of the city (Deut. 22:21). Simply put, Mary faced the death penalty unless she could prove her innocence.16 [link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]


“Some said, Mary conceived by the Holy Spirit, they are in error.” Gospel of Phillip

 Quoting: beebee


You blasphemer! How can you even sleep at night? For the love of God, repent while there is yet time! O.O
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My god, we are still in the stone age aren't we.
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Re: Mary was NOT a virgin - repeat - MARY WAS NOT A VIRGIN!!!
you're a heinous blasphemer, OP; you should know

wake up already, and believe in Lord Yeshua Messiah (Jesus) as Lord and Savior. Lord Yeshua is the ONLY way to salvation.

TIME IS VERY SHORT, OP. TRUE. WAKE UP!
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I woke up to the deception about 20 years ago. Now it's YOUR TURN!!
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you've 'woken up' to deception, OP

you have been deceived BADLY, OP; please wake up, OP, before it's too late; we are SO CLOSE to the end
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Re: Mary was NOT a virgin - repeat - MARY WAS NOT A VIRGIN!!!
So she fucked herself????????
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No but you have probably done that to yourself in the God section of life. lol don't sweat it it isn't a permanent condition.
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"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with senses, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use..." - Galileo

Can you explain how a woman becomes pregnant without a sperm cell fertilizing an egg? Or do we have to suspend our belief in logic/reasoning and assume that it was magic? Why did prior mythological stories from various cultures also contain claims of a virgin or miraculous birth?

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

hmm

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger"
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07/07/2013 01:52 AM

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Re: Mary was NOT a virgin - repeat - MARY WAS NOT A VIRGIN!!!
Mary was a repeat of Isis whom most do not realize was also considered a virgin although she was not a sexual virgin which goes to show the use of the word "virgin" in the bible is not really meant in this sense.

Horus means virgin

The Arabic word: hoor = virgin of paradise, nymph

[link to www.babynology.com]

The suffix: 'us' means various things, but ultimately it means 'of one'

so Horus = virgin of one = of one virgin.
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