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Funny thing about TPTB.
TPTB do not believe in magic.
Yet they do believe in magical ceremony. They do them all the time in an expensive,massive and intricately detailed manner. To them though it is merely symbolic. Lets dress up and act like gods because we can, and we can do it in ways that would send others to jail.

If there was a real god he would strike us down for these inhuman events. So we perform them to prove there is no god and we are the closest thing to one. Because we do what we want.

The idea of someone actually being a magical human enrages them like nothing else. It goes against everything they believe and it also makes them extremely jealous. If anyone should be granted magical abilities surly it should be them.
They know all about magick and even do rituals. No God would grant such powers to a surf....if one existed that is.

This half believing half mocking of God is what causes them to fail in history over and over. I am confident even with them reading this they will not figure out why? Will you?
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The real TPTB control the dimensions of time
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TPTB don't believe in either magic or ceremony. They believe in manipulating the masses with both. Technology is not so distant from magic and ceremony gives peons a sense of spirituality. Both can be used to condition peons into servitude and when mysticism fails money works. There are more slaves working to pay off a house today than at any other point in time.

It's all about controlling perception and using it to advance yourself. The politicians do this and the slaves do not.
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TPTB don't believe in either magic or ceremony. They believe in manipulating the masses with both. Technology is not so distant from magic and ceremony gives peons a sense of spirituality. Both can be used to condition peons into servitude and when mysticism fails money works. There are more slaves working to pay off a house today than at any other point in time.

It's all about controlling perception and using it to advance yourself. The politicians do this and the slaves do not.
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Pretty astute. They show up at "high ceremonies" to convince the ones they are brainwashing with it that it is real. They play central roles and loathe every minute of it. I understand what you mean though and your not wrong.
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TPTB don't believe in either magic or ceremony. They believe in manipulating the masses with both. Technology is not so distant from magic and ceremony gives peons a sense of spirituality. Both can be used to condition peons into servitude and when mysticism fails money works. There are more slaves working to pay off a house today than at any other point in time.

It's all about controlling perception and using it to advance yourself. The politicians do this and the slaves do not.
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Pretty astute. They show up at "high ceremonies" to convince the ones they are brainwashing with it that it is real. They play central roles and loathe every minute of it. I understand what you mean though and your not wrong.
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THEY are directly responsible for ALL religion.

Read this..it explains it well.

Religions..have this in common with eachother.

1) They are ALL convinced THEY are right and all the others are wrong.

2)They are all certain..and voice this much and as often as thay can..that the ones who are "Wrong" will be tortured forever by whatever brand of bi polar sadistic god they worship.

3)They all use fear and terror to control their members
EG:-"Do as this law/teaching/guru/pastor/book/priest/sermon ect suggests or you will be cursed/burned alive forever/smitten/come under demonic attack/end up possessed/ ect.

4)They are all about CONTROL..control of your money..of your mind..of your actions/words/life and they all impose guilt and fear as "punishment" if you dont tow the line.

5)They are all about money..it always comes down to CASH..and if you dont hand it over they label you a "God robber"..you are robbing God..and hus come under the punishments/threats made in point 3.

6)They all use "LOVE" as the bait to get you in..mixed with "Fear" of some sort of terrible DOOM if you dont join them. Thenonce they have you the LOVE stops..and the DOOM increses..till you are left a mindless fear controlled zombie..arrogant and proud and self righteous..who then being fully "Indoctrinated" after a time...then beleive point 1 completely..and proceed to inflict steps 2 to 5 on other prospective victims.

Any religion or creed thast uses these techniques are opertaing under the precepts of what you would term "Darkness"..or "Evil" because evil, by its very nature, runs and feeds and grows stronger on fear and control.

The PTB use these same techniques.

Fear of terroists..the feeling of being "Special" and of the "Elite" if you tow the line..protected by their umbrella of "Control" of almost every aspect of your lves.

Thats because the PTB as you all know by now are all "Luciferian" in nature and practice...and use fear..control..cashflow(So long as its flowing THIER way)..and terrible consequesnces if you dont "Measure up" to their parameters.

So..if the PTB use these same techniques...and you all foster a rather healthy dislike for the way they "Control" things..then why do so many who voice such an opinion of them..end up following the SAME system under the guise of "Religion" which as you can clearly see are all based and run on the percepts of "Evil"?

Lets say for example a person really WANTS to do evil..they lust and fight and hate..they have an evil evil heart..they are greedy..want everything their way..want everything to be all cushy and nice while they do what they WANT to do without concequence.

But then they are told if they do this..some horrible fate will befall them..either outright death or eternal torture in the next life..and curses and trouble in THIS life..

Now..that rocks their boat..they want their cake..and want to eat it. But now the fear factore is brought into it..as they are told if they keep being an evil greedy cunt thay will siffer.

So off they go..looking for an "OUT"..a way to KEEP being selfish and greeedy but never having to face the consequences of it.

So they find a "religion"..out of FEAR of what will happen to them if they dont.


They are still evil on the inside..nothing has changed..but now they think "If I read the bible enough..quote enough scriptures..pray enough and go to church enough..perhaps I can still be a smug self rightous shit..but get to heaven and save my ass."

So its still a SELFISH thing they do..they are still evil..except they have excused their selfishness and evil by being taught the ever popular saying "We are not perfect..just forgiven"

BUT..a GOOD person NEEDS no fear or manipulation to be good to their neighbour and not be a selfish greedy cunt. They dont have to be FORCED into doing what they dont want to do like the evil man has to be. They love people by nature..and do good because good IS already in them.

They dont need the luciferian fear and guilt...as that sort of thing ONLY seems to work on people who WANT to be evil..but without the price that comes with it..death or eternal torture..as they are "Told"
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Re: Funny thing about TPTB.
The real TPTB control the dimensions of time
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


derp herp kissing ass will continue to get you a pittance. carry on online telemarketer.
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Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones my friend.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Nice try but you're not creepy or clever to me. You checked my post history and repeated what i said. So what? That has nothing to do with this situation and i am not being a hypocrite with my OP or my response to you.

Now try to derail. You were owned as soon as you started posting Obama images as responses and started acting like you were well off when you are just as broke as everyone else.

You're a tool now. You are okay with it so i am as well.
Now tell us what you think you know about the tptb or run along at the risk of showing your childish pattern of over posting when challenged.
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Do they use astral projection from your research?
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Re: Funny thing about TPTB.
TPTB don't believe in either magic or ceremony. They believe in manipulating the masses with both. Technology is not so distant from magic and ceremony gives peons a sense of spirituality. Both can be used to condition peons into servitude and when mysticism fails money works. There are more slaves working to pay off a house today than at any other point in time.

It's all about controlling perception and using it to advance yourself. The politicians do this and the slaves do not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1354973


Pretty astute. They show up at "high ceremonies" to convince the ones they are brainwashing with it that it is real. They play central roles and loathe every minute of it. I understand what you mean though and your not wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1001020


THEY are directly responsible for ALL religion.

Read this..it explains it well.

Religions..have this in common with eachother.

1) They are ALL convinced THEY are right and all the others are wrong.

2)They are all certain..and voice this much and as often as thay can..that the ones who are "Wrong" will be tortured forever by whatever brand of bi polar sadistic god they worship.

3)They all use fear and terror to control their members
EG:-"Do as this law/teaching/guru/pastor/book/priest/sermon ect suggests or you will be cursed/burned alive forever/smitten/come under demonic attack/end up possessed/ ect.

4)They are all about CONTROL..control of your money..of your mind..of your actions/words/life and they all impose guilt and fear as "punishment" if you dont tow the line.

5)They are all about money..it always comes down to CASH..and if you dont hand it over they label you a "God robber"..you are robbing God..and hus come under the punishments/threats made in point 3.

6)They all use "LOVE" as the bait to get you in..mixed with "Fear" of some sort of terrible DOOM if you dont join them. Thenonce they have you the LOVE stops..and the DOOM increses..till you are left a mindless fear controlled zombie..arrogant and proud and self righteous..who then being fully "Indoctrinated" after a time...then beleive point 1 completely..and proceed to inflict steps 2 to 5 on other prospective victims.

Any religion or creed thast uses these techniques are opertaing under the precepts of what you would term "Darkness"..or "Evil" because evil, by its very nature, runs and feeds and grows stronger on fear and control.

The PTB use these same techniques.

Fear of terroists..the feeling of being "Special" and of the "Elite" if you tow the line..protected by their umbrella of "Control" of almost every aspect of your lves.

Thats because the PTB as you all know by now are all "Luciferian" in nature and practice...and use fear..control..cashflow(So long as its flowing THIER way)..and terrible consequesnces if you dont "Measure up" to their parameters.

So..if the PTB use these same techniques...and you all foster a rather healthy dislike for the way they "Control" things..then why do so many who voice such an opinion of them..end up following the SAME system under the guise of "Religion" which as you can clearly see are all based and run on the percepts of "Evil"?

Lets say for example a person really WANTS to do evil..they lust and fight and hate..they have an evil evil heart..they are greedy..want everything their way..want everything to be all cushy and nice while they do what they WANT to do without concequence.

But then they are told if they do this..some horrible fate will befall them..either outright death or eternal torture in the next life..and curses and trouble in THIS life..

Now..that rocks their boat..they want their cake..and want to eat it. But now the fear factore is brought into it..as they are told if they keep being an evil greedy cunt thay will siffer.

So off they go..looking for an "OUT"..a way to KEEP being selfish and greeedy but never having to face the consequences of it.

So they find a "religion"..out of FEAR of what will happen to them if they dont.


They are still evil on the inside..nothing has changed..but now they think "If I read the bible enough..quote enough scriptures..pray enough and go to church enough..perhaps I can still be a smug self rightous shit..but get to heaven and save my ass."

So its still a SELFISH thing they do..they are still evil..except they have excused their selfishness and evil by being taught the ever popular saying "We are not perfect..just forgiven"

BUT..a GOOD person NEEDS no fear or manipulation to be good to their neighbour and not be a selfish greedy cunt. They dont have to be FORCED into doing what they dont want to do like the evil man has to be. They love people by nature..and do good because good IS already in them.

They dont need the luciferian fear and guilt...as that sort of thing ONLY seems to work on people who WANT to be evil..but without the price that comes with it..death or eternal torture..as they are "Told"
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Well said.

clappa

We could end the thread right here as far as i'm concerned.
Did you write that?
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Do they use astral projection from your research?
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Yes they try everything. Once they realize it's something money can give them no advantage in they quickly give it up.
Few of them are any good at it at all. They will quietly hire someone else to do work for them if they think it will help their situation.
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derp herp kissing ass will continue to get you a pittance. carry on online telemarketer.
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Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones my friend.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Nice try but you're not creepy or clever to me. You checked my post history and repeated what i said. So what? That has nothing to do with this situation and i am not being a hypocrite with my OP or my response to you.

Now try to derail. You were owned as soon as you started posting Obama images as responses and started acting like you were well off when you are just as broke as everyone else.

You're a tool now. You are okay with it so i am as well.
Now tell us what you think you know about the tptb or run along at the risk of showing your childish pattern of over posting when challenged.
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I stand by my statement

The Real TPTB Control Time

Everything else is just window dressing
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


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Re: Funny thing about TPTB.
The real TPTB control the dimensions of time
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Yes, But The True God controls all of it and them, too! They better get their act together before God gets to his last grace with them, we already have, so when we do God takes that into account!
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Time Travel was invented in 1936

We have been "planning" the direction of humanity for decades

You cannot stop us

We are invincible

We have many dimensional tricks in our sleeves

Walk ins, changing timelines, telepathy
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


You're derping in my thread. If anyone is interested in your point of view they will quote you. Would you kindly not start over posting in my thread? Or does your superior kind not believe in etiquette?
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Time Travel was invented in 1936

We have been "planning" the direction of humanity for decades

You cannot stop us

We are invincible

We have many dimensional tricks in our sleeves

Walk ins, changing timelines, telepathy
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


You're derping in my thread. If anyone is interested in your point of view they will quote you. Would you kindly not start over posting in my thread? Or does your superior kind not believe in etiquette?
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Also after your edit. You have nothing. They don't know you or want to. Stop pretending you are one of them.
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Time Travel was invented in 1936

We have been "planning" the direction of humanity for decades

You cannot stop us

We are invincible

We have many dimensional tricks in our sleeves

Walk ins, changing timelines, telepathy
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


You're derping in my thread. If anyone is interested in your point of view they will quote you. Would you kindly not start over posting in my thread? Or does your superior kind not believe in etiquette?
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You are the one with the superiority complex

No worries

We will condition it out of you in time
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You were asked nicely to use your manners. Now do so.
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Their egotistical view of their supernatural value is deluded and their down fall.

'Cause there has to be an unexplainable, rational or organized supior intelligence to have created such glorious beings.
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classic GLP combat, keep it up tards
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Their egotistical view of their supernatural value is deluded and their down fall.

'Cause there has to be an unexplainable, rational or organized supior intelligence to have created such glorious beings.
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Good. You got it.If their is god he only loves us and doesn't expect us to follow his rules.
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classic GLP combat, keep it up tards
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Lookman i asked nicely. I can't really do anything if he feels the need to try and role play in my thread but ignore him or answer when i feel like it.

Everyone is on to his schtick so it really doesn't matter.
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Stop pretending you are one of them.
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Of course the leader would never act a fool to hide in plain sight

No that would never happen right

lol
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IF a leader acts the part of a fool his subordinates will question his leadership. Something that is intolerable. So no that never happens.

Disobeidence is never tolerated among people that employ others and the elite wouldn't tolerate it either. The fool is only powerful in myth, take King Leer he was an idiot and his children suffered his idiocy.

The fool isn't wise so he has no followers. Which is different to leading people into a delusion of security.

If you play the part of a fool people will think you are one and your credibility will fade.
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Do they use astral projection from your research?
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Yes they try everything. Once they realize it's something money can give them no advantage in they quickly give it up.
Few of them are any good at it at all. They will quietly hire someone else to do work for them if they think it will help their situation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1001020


Interesting. So they see no benefit in accessing the spiritual realms and learning true spirituality if it doesn't bring them more wealth and power?
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Re: Funny thing about TPTB.
The real TPTB control the dimensions of time
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Yes, But The True God controls all of it and them, too! They better get their act together before God gets to his last grace with them, we already have, so when we do God takes that into account!
 Quoting: Daughter


We Control God

We know what "God" is

The "common" people don't

They view "God" as the omnipresent unknown

We make it Our Business to Know
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Wouldn't it benefit the entire race and future of not only us but yourselves if everyone was privy to this information? Wouldn't we be able to expand our horizons beyond this solar system and universe if we were all working towards the same goal?
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Their egotistical view of their supernatural value is deluded and their down fall.

'Cause there has to be an unexplainable, rational or organized supior intelligence to have created such glorious beings.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26096947


Good. You got it.If their is god he only loves us and doesn't expect us to follow his rules.
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Thanks, it pleases me so very, very much to have pleased you, however..

If there some how were some fantastic organized supior super natural intelligence creating existence... it would certainly want and expect for you to follow whatever rules it had laid out, or to learn from your mistakes rather.

It's not ok to make mistakes, you should learn from them and improve "spiritually. "

..Because, Every one and everything is absolutely perfect.
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Do they use astral projection from your research?
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Yes they try everything. Once they realize it's something money can give them no advantage in they quickly give it up.
Few of them are any good at it at all. They will quietly hire someone else to do work for them if they think it will help their situation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1001020


Interesting. So they see no benefit in accessing the spiritual realms and learning true spirituality if it doesn't bring them more wealth and power?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42715178


True spirituality to them is wealth and "power"
The only reason they would have to practice astral projection would be to convince themselves they rule over that as well.
That's something they cant do obviously. So they take journeys inside their own heads and try to convince themselves they are actually entering the astral with other entities. Yoga instructors and gurus make a killing off these people telling them what they want to hear until they realize it's not real and then they dump the whole thing. They cant take their privileged with them when they go so they are not special when they get there.
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Their egotistical view of their supernatural value is deluded and their down fall.

'Cause there has to be an unexplainable, rational or organized supior intelligence to have created such glorious beings.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26096947


Good. You got it.If their is god he only loves us and doesn't expect us to follow his rules.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1001020


Thanks, it pleases me so very, very much to have pleased you, however..

If there some how were some fantastic organized supior super natural intelligence creating existence... it would certainly want and expect for you to follow whatever rules it had laid out, or to learn from your mistakes rather.

It's not ok to make mistakes, you should learn from them and improve "spiritually. "

..Because, Every one and everything is absolutely perfect.
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Speaking of ego.
I was supporting your statement and complimenting you. If that is problem so be it. I haven't stated what i believe at all so i'm awful curious as to what it is you are going on about.

Lets start over. Was your original response a criticism of what you think my point of view is? If so i didn't see it that way. I believe people see the same things from different angles a lot of the time. So we really agree our differences are just semantics.

Correct me if i missed what you were getting out.
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Yes, But The True God controls all of it and them, too! They better get their act together before God gets to his last grace with them, we already have, so when we do God takes that into account!
 Quoting: Daughter


We Control God

We know what "God" is

The "common" people don't

They view "God" as the omnipresent unknown

We make it Our Business to Know
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Wouldn't it benefit the entire race and future of not only us but yourselves if everyone was privy to this information? Wouldn't we be able to expand our horizons beyond this solar system and universe if we were all working towards the same goal?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42715178


No

Even people who view themselves as "Enlightened" are not ready for that life altering info

You Must EARN It

And IF you are Worthy

We will find you
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What percentage of glp do you think actually believes you are part of anything other than this forum? this is a legit question?
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Do they use astral projection from your research?
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Yes they try everything. Once they realize it's something money can give them no advantage in they quickly give it up.
Few of them are any good at it at all. They will quietly hire someone else to do work for them if they think it will help their situation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1001020


Interesting. So they see no benefit in accessing the spiritual realms and learning true spirituality if it doesn't bring them more wealth and power?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42715178


True spirituality to them is wealth and "power"
The only reason they would have to practice astral projection would be to convince themselves they rule over that as well.
That's something they cant do obviously. So they take journeys inside their own heads and try to convince themselves they are actually entering the astral with other entities. Yoga instructors and gurus make a killing off these people telling them what they want to hear until they realize it's not real and then they dump the whole thing. They cant take their privileged with them when they go so they are not special when they get there.
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Don't they realize they cant take their wealth and power with them once they leave this place? True wealth would be growing into a powerful being and knowing how to manuvure around in the astral would it not?
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Stop pretending you are one of them.
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Of course the leader would never act a fool to hide in plain sight

No that would never happen right

lol
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


IF a leader acts the part of a fool his subordinates will question his leadership. Something that is intolerable. So no that never happens.

Disobeidence is never tolerated among people that employ others and the elite wouldn't tolerate it either. The fool is only powerful in myth, take King Leer he was an idiot and his children suffered his idiocy.

The fool isn't wise so he has no followers. Which is different to leading people into a delusion of security.

If you play the part of a fool people will think you are one and your credibility will fade.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1354973


Everything has a purpose

Followers can be a hindrance if you lead from the shadows
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


There are no shadow leaders. There are politicians that rule their nations and the political heavyweights that rule the parties. There are also political lobbyists but they don't rule. The idea of an Illuminati ruling the world is a dated one that is now defunct.

The Illuminati lost the power to rule because they didn't control the armies and no one but mercenaries would follow them. The politicians taxed or imprisoned the wealthy that wouldn't conform to the laws of the land.

I'm amazed people still believe in the Illuminati after their obvious defeat in the 1700s. Central bankers and politicians rule now, and the BIS is the only real global power in these days.

Some sociopaths may want to rule as the Illuminati but they are weak and lack the doctrine of replaceable parts that modern governments have, in that if the president dies the vice president rules.

You seem misinformed as to the nature of the power structure in your nation. The order of skull and bones is comprised of political elite not the servants of some shadowy elite that exist in myth only.
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Yes, But The True God controls all of it and them, too! They better get their act together before God gets to his last grace with them, we already have, so when we do God takes that into account!
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We Control God

We know what "God" is

The "common" people don't

They view "God" as the omnipresent unknown

We make it Our Business to Know
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Wouldn't it benefit the entire race and future of not only us but yourselves if everyone was privy to this information? Wouldn't we be able to expand our horizons beyond this solar system and universe if we were all working towards the same goal?
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No

Even people who view themselves as "Enlightened" are not ready for that life altering info

You Must EARN It

And IF you are Worthy

We will find you
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At this point there is no mind altering info that I could not handle so your point is flawed.

Earn it? You make me laugh... The only ones who learn this "special" knowledge are those born into certain bloodlines... How is that earning?
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Yes they try everything. Once they realize it's something money can give them no advantage in they quickly give it up.
Few of them are any good at it at all. They will quietly hire someone else to do work for them if they think it will help their situation.
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Interesting. So they see no benefit in accessing the spiritual realms and learning true spirituality if it doesn't bring them more wealth and power?
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True spirituality to them is wealth and "power"
The only reason they would have to practice astral projection would be to convince themselves they rule over that as well.
That's something they cant do obviously. So they take journeys inside their own heads and try to convince themselves they are actually entering the astral with other entities. Yoga instructors and gurus make a killing off these people telling them what they want to hear until they realize it's not real and then they dump the whole thing. They cant take their privileged with them when they go so they are not special when they get there.
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Don't they realize they cant take their wealth and power with them once they leave this place? True wealth would be growing into a powerful being and knowing how to manuvure around in the astral would it not?
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Imagining you are flying around the universe is hardly productive and really only a past time for bored housewives and new age hippies high on whatever they've got in front of them.
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TPTB don't believe in either magic or ceremony. They believe in manipulating the masses with both. Technology is not so distant from magic and ceremony gives peons a sense of spirituality. Both can be used to condition peons into servitude and when mysticism fails money works. There are more slaves working to pay off a house today than at any other point in time.

It's all about controlling perception and using it to advance yourself. The politicians do this and the slaves do not.
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Pretty astute. They show up at "high ceremonies" to convince the ones they are brainwashing with it that it is real. They play central roles and loathe every minute of it. I understand what you mean though and your not wrong.
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THEY are directly responsible for ALL religion.

Read this..it explains it well.

Religions..have this in common with eachother.

1) They are ALL convinced THEY are right and all the others are wrong.

2)They are all certain..and voice this much and as often as thay can..that the ones who are "Wrong" will be tortured forever by whatever brand of bi polar sadistic god they worship.

3)They all use fear and terror to control their members
EG:-"Do as this law/teaching/guru/pastor/book/priest/sermon ect suggests or you will be cursed/burned alive forever/smitten/come under demonic attack/end up possessed/ ect.

4)They are all about CONTROL..control of your money..of your mind..of your actions/words/life and they all impose guilt and fear as "punishment" if you dont tow the line.

5)They are all about money..it always comes down to CASH..and if you dont hand it over they label you a "God robber"..you are robbing God..and hus come under the punishments/threats made in point 3.

6)They all use "LOVE" as the bait to get you in..mixed with "Fear" of some sort of terrible DOOM if you dont join them. Thenonce they have you the LOVE stops..and the DOOM increses..till you are left a mindless fear controlled zombie..arrogant and proud and self righteous..who then being fully "Indoctrinated" after a time...then beleive point 1 completely..and proceed to inflict steps 2 to 5 on other prospective victims.

Any religion or creed thast uses these techniques are opertaing under the precepts of what you would term "Darkness"..or "Evil" because evil, by its very nature, runs and feeds and grows stronger on fear and control.

The PTB use these same techniques.

Fear of terroists..the feeling of being "Special" and of the "Elite" if you tow the line..protected by their umbrella of "Control" of almost every aspect of your lves.

Thats because the PTB as you all know by now are all "Luciferian" in nature and practice...and use fear..control..cashflow(So long as its flowing THIER way)..and terrible consequesnces if you dont "Measure up" to their parameters.

So..if the PTB use these same techniques...and you all foster a rather healthy dislike for the way they "Control" things..then why do so many who voice such an opinion of them..end up following the SAME system under the guise of "Religion" which as you can clearly see are all based and run on the percepts of "Evil"?

Lets say for example a person really WANTS to do evil..they lust and fight and hate..they have an evil evil heart..they are greedy..want everything their way..want everything to be all cushy and nice while they do what they WANT to do without concequence.

But then they are told if they do this..some horrible fate will befall them..either outright death or eternal torture in the next life..and curses and trouble in THIS life..

Now..that rocks their boat..they want their cake..and want to eat it. But now the fear factore is brought into it..as they are told if they keep being an evil greedy cunt thay will siffer.

So off they go..looking for an "OUT"..a way to KEEP being selfish and greeedy but never having to face the consequences of it.

So they find a "religion"..out of FEAR of what will happen to them if they dont.


They are still evil on the inside..nothing has changed..but now they think "If I read the bible enough..quote enough scriptures..pray enough and go to church enough..perhaps I can still be a smug self rightous shit..but get to heaven and save my ass."

So its still a SELFISH thing they do..they are still evil..except they have excused their selfishness and evil by being taught the ever popular saying "We are not perfect..just forgiven"

BUT..a GOOD person NEEDS no fear or manipulation to be good to their neighbour and not be a selfish greedy cunt. They dont have to be FORCED into doing what they dont want to do like the evil man has to be. They love people by nature..and do good because good IS already in them.

They dont need the luciferian fear and guilt...as that sort of thing ONLY seems to work on people who WANT to be evil..but without the price that comes with it..death or eternal torture..as they are "Told"
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Well said.

clappa

We could end the thread right here as far as i'm concerned.
Did you write that?
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Yes.
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Of course the leader would never act a fool to hide in plain sight

No that would never happen right

lol
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IF a leader acts the part of a fool his subordinates will question his leadership. Something that is intolerable. So no that never happens.

Disobeidence is never tolerated among people that employ others and the elite wouldn't tolerate it either. The fool is only powerful in myth, take King Leer he was an idiot and his children suffered his idiocy.

The fool isn't wise so he has no followers. Which is different to leading people into a delusion of security.

If you play the part of a fool people will think you are one and your credibility will fade.
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Everything has a purpose

Followers can be a hindrance if you lead from the shadows
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


There are no shadow leaders. There are politicians that rule their nations and the political heavyweights that rule the parties. There are also political lobbyists but they don't rule. The idea of an Illuminati ruling the world is a dated one that is now defunct.

The Illuminati lost the power to rule because they didn't control the armies and no one but mercenaries would follow them. The politicians taxed or imprisoned the wealthy that wouldn't conform to the laws of the land.

I'm amazed people still believe in the Illuminati after their obvious defeat in the 1700s. Central bankers and politicians rule now, and the BIS is the only real global power in these days.

Some sociopaths may want to rule as the Illuminati but they are weak and lack the doctrine of replaceable parts that modern governments have, in that if the president dies the vice president rules.

You seem misinformed as to the nature of the power structure in your nation. The order of skull and bones is comprised of political elite not the servants of some shadowy elite that exist in myth only.
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I tend to refer to the illuminati as bankers and politicians. In my use it is just a term to describe the power structure since wieshaupts illuminati was dismantled.





GLP