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I too feel your pain. I've been there. Only contemplation and solace is in the fact that you are the only one to see the reality that you created in your journey as you experienced the joy and the depth of pain as part of the journey only you can see. I know emptiness and still there is an indomitable will to live and breath the divinity only if you see there is a mystery of why we're here even if we don't know why we're here. That itself pretty much explained everything. There is something indescribable about our self above complementary criteria on the agreement between all party at this moment in reality yet...your call...be free.
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HEY much love an empathy but you know what would help is ROCK AND ROLL. Not the bullshit mainstream type, you need to find yourself a band, on Craigslist perhaps, then use you experience, wisdom and observation to make songs that represent our condition the absurdity the sadness the anger you feel towards our slave master and the the anger you feel towards the slave for not freeing themselves. trust me that's what keeps me going. no one will listen. but make some recordings and over time people will find them and they will give hope to those who do.
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I am empty. My childhood was being moved from one place to another, one "family" to another, always the new kid. People were cruel all over the USA. Those that I loved died, one after the other. I lost my ability to believe in God when my father, Jim, my step dad for a few years and the only man I could think of as father died when I was 16, that was 1986.

I met my wife to be when I was 15, and long story short, we ended up raising her child, and aborting mine, and we spent a lifetime getting to really love each other, every day was a joy because she was in it. She died very suddenly to cancer at the beginning of last year. I lost the only thing that made this life worth it. Since, I've lost my job, my home, and my ability to feel pleasure.

I cannot experience pleasure or joy. I have tried more than most, drugs of all sorts, cheap women, I could fill pages with what I've tried, and now homeless sixteen months later... I still feel empty, so empty. The only thing that makes me "feel" anything at all is trying to STOP this world from being run over by evil madmen, so of course, I've been ostracized by many for believing in "conspiracy theory" nonsense.

I am more intelligent than most, in better health, I've lost over a hundred and twenty pounds since last year. I am capable and able to learn anything I choose, from combat, to writing, to psychology, to well... whatever. But there is no reason, no drive, no hope. I am alone quite a bit, though I have people to visit when I wish, being sociable I mastered decades ago, no lack of people to hang with as long as I stay away from truth.

But I'm empty inside. All I ever wanted was real love, and now, without it... there is nothing.

I cringe inside when around most people because I cannot tune out my ability to see things for what they are, not what I want them to be. They are petty, and selfish, and brainwashed by a system that hates them and is successfully destroying them, both mentally and physically.

I am capable of great things, no boast, but I am crippled with no motivation. Why? I ponder that often. Why bother.

I write this simply to put my thoughts in order, for reason is all I have now. Amusingly, I have reason, but not A reason.

I have grown physically younger, something I was in the process of doing a few years ago through a self taught meditation that is always there, I am in better shape now than in my twenties, and I heal remarkably fast from illness or injury, even though I've been starving myself for the last year plus. What a cosmic joke that physically I've never felt better, and mentally I'm empty. All dressed up with no place to go.

Why even write this? Good question. Answer. To tell you the one thing I know for certain.

Love is the most powerful and important thing in this existence. Deep meaningful powerful passionate love is something worth looking for, worth suffering for, worth dying for. If you have it, tell them how much you value it, be warm and kind to them, forgive their human flaws, and hold on to it. For when it is gone, you will have a long time to ponder what you did wrong, how you could have done more, and how fucking much you miss it.

I cannot live for myself. I lived for her. Without her I am empty. I wish this was self pity, because you can change that, but I just am hollow, an automaton, with memories of feeling. I have helped so many people since last year, losing myself in the betterment of others, but without being able to save them from what's coming, it brings me no joy, but I do it because it's right, for whatever that's worth.

I understand what the evil people feel, that hollow nothing can fill, and I understand what they are capable of in a way many do not, because I could be them. You should fear them more than you do, it should inspire you to mass action, because they are murdering you all by inches as I type. I remember right from wrong, for her, and so I limit my actions.... but you don't understand how bad the sociopaths and psychopaths are until you're empty. It is more terrible than you think, unless you are one, then you don't care and can laugh that empty laugh I know so very well.

This world is ending because good people are doing nothing.

If you have love, or if you want love, you better stop these empty evil selfish people, in mass and soon.

Maybe it's too late, as hundreds have told me. If so I blame those that had so much, and let the empty people take it. I have wanted to join a group of people actively trying to change things, and I cannot find them. Online people think you're "one of them" and in real life people are too busy trying to eke out a living.

To the scum monitoring this I say, you cannot hurt me anymore because I'm empty, like you, except I don't even care if I live at all. You should fear the day I might find motivation, since you know what I'm capable of when I had it.

To the rest I say do something soon, for what awaits is terrible, and only those who care about others more than themselves can stop it. Selfishness is the key to mankind's downfall.

Please don't bother with whatever religious talk about how awesome God or Jesus or Allah or Yahweh is, and how much it loves me, because I plan on some very serious afterlife activities, and if you're right, they're toast when I get there.

Save yourselves this pain so powerful it kills hope. Please.
 Quoting: sadhuman



Generally there are two types of people

1. Those that think and get to know the truth

2. Those that don't think no matter what they go through in life and remain ignorant. Some are so stupid that they ignore words of truth or try to shape them to their own desires.

Unfortunately nothing can be done for those people (2), trying to wake them up doesn't help. They think they know better than others, but really are stupid beyond words. They think that if they go through one difficult experience in life, this makes them intelligent or clever, but they learned nothing.

This is another huge problem, wise people are not promoted in life because the ignorant cannot recognize or understand them.

When a wise man stands up to say something, he is looked at as a know-it-all or someone with too large ego, he is ignored, because the stupid people think that he is trying to take their spotlight. Instead of lifting him up they squash him.

And on and on...
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I too feel your pain. I've been there. Only contemplation and solace is in the fact that you are the only one to see the reality that you created in your journey as you experienced the joy and the depth of pain as part of the journey only you can see. I know emptiness and still there is an indomitable will to live and breath the divinity only if you see there is a mystery of why we're here even if we don't know why we're here. That itself pretty much explained everything. There is something indescribable about our self above complementary criteria on the agreement between all party at this moment in reality yet...your call...be free.
 Quoting: AllWiredUp


The mystery of it all. This is key.

Every one of us has a driving force, even if we do not acknowledge or admit to it -- much less know it.

For most folks, it seems like the inane diversions of life fill up all of their brain and body power. Television, movies, fashion, shopping, food, diversion, diversion, diversion.

For others, it is occupying themselves with the lives of others -- taking care of kids or other family members.

Always taking the focus off of the inner self, and spinning up the brain with "otherness", whether that focus be on the local sports team, impressing others, or 'giving' the kids 'things'.

Several of us here in this discussion seem to have found our way clear -- or been tossed out from -- the immersion in diversion.

We are thus looking not for Reason, but for A Reason.

What is our motivating force, our reason for being, or rather -- for going forward, not grimly, but with a certain joie de vivre, a vigor and healthy perspective.

Simple curiosity is mine. I want to see what happens next.

Am I saying this a a great or good reason for being?

It's an excellent one. I just want to see what happens next. Whether it is with the family of robins feeding off my picnic table, or in world politics, or the movements of the earth. Will it rain today? I am curious. I want to see what happens next!

For our other participants in this thread: What is your non-mainstream "capital A Reason" for going forward in this strange time and place called Western Civilisation?

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Your a good man.

I know I remain anonymous on the internet.

But know this. I am a real man. With a real life.

And in this real life of mine, Ive been through all you have posted and have found God at the end.

I hope you win.
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The awakening will begin soon, stay strong brother.

Much love!
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I'm not saying this to be mean or to be a wise ass...but feel very compelled to say it. Your head is stuck so far up your ass that you cannot see. When you try to peer out of your ass you are only getting a pin hole view. You are being self absorbed and you are in need of a shift in perception. The direction at hand is to pull your head out of your ass. You WILL find a process to complete this first task. I say this with best intentions. My name is Tonia and I am 45 but I look 36 when I smile. I wish you well.
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Hey Op, you sound like you are in the dark of night. Well then, I hope you are getting ready for the light of the dawn, because it can only come, when the darkest reaches beyond all hope. If you have truly reached beyond all hope, you may now commence the celebrating.

The part people miss over and over, for whatever reason is the catch - 22 we are all stuck in. You think your wife was causing your love, but that is not exactly true. The love was originating in you. If you were not separated as an individual, if all was just one cosmic slurry, you would not be able to have these feelings in the first place . . . nothing, because you would be EVERYTHING. We have to be separated into individual consciousness to feel this in the FIRST PLACE! Otherwise, no dice, no game, no nothing, IN THE FIRST PLACE!

I won't be able to give you any further wisdom. If you are as depressed as you say, then you should have no problem ruminating on what I am saying. Think about it over and over, because even though the mind cannot escape a catch - 22, there is a part of your awareness, that can pick up on it.

Remember, the only Zen at the top of the mountain, is the Zen you bring up there with you!
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OP you sound like you are a good, wise and smart person. Unfortunately that combination usually leads to depression because this world is so fucked up.

My advice: Create something. A book, paintings, music, whatever you like best. Maybe even a project like a garden in a public space or volunteer work of some kind. But I think in your case creative art would be best. You said u like writing so write a book.

Great art is born from great suffering. But you have to totally commit yourself to this project. Promise yourself that you will spend x hours a day or whatever on writing this book. It doesnt matter if you have no good ideas, just write, the ideas will come. Again you have to be strict with yourself -- this is no joke, it is how you heal yourself. You promise yourself you will do it for a certain time each day and you follow through, even when you don't feel like it. It doesn't matter if it doesn't sell or get published or if nobody reads it...write it anyway. Pour yourself into it, Make it the best book you can imagine. And in time it will be. Who knows, you might even get a publishing deal and find yourself with a whole new career, but for now don't worry about that . Just do it.
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OP you sound like you are a good, wise and smart person. Unfortunately that combination usually leads to depression because this world is so fucked up.

My advice: Create something. A book, paintings, music, whatever you like best. Maybe even a project like a garden in a public space or volunteer work of some kind. But I think in your case creative art would be best. You said u like writing so write a book.

Great art is born from great suffering. But you have to totally commit yourself to this project. Promise yourself that you will spend x hours a day or whatever on writing this book. It doesnt matter if you have no good ideas, just write, the ideas will come. Again you have to be strict with yourself -- this is no joke, it is how you heal yourself. You promise yourself you will do it for a certain time each day and you follow through, even when you don't feel like it. It doesn't matter if it doesn't sell or get published or if nobody reads it...write it anyway. Pour yourself into it, Make it the best book you can imagine. And in time it will be. Who knows, you might even get a publishing deal and find yourself with a whole new career, but for now don't worry about that . Just do it.
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~A Reason~

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Prove her right.
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Sometimes there is a need to make bridges even when there isn't much to go by.
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Well when I lost my house, I had to put my friend, Logan the cat, somewhere, as I didn't think a car was a good house for a kitty. So I arranged to have my step daughter that I raised from birth, the same one who offered zero support when her mother died, to look out for him.

Originally he was to be her cat, but she couldn't handle the responsibility. She's 25 now, always at home with her damaged boyfriend, now her babies daddy, so I hoped she could watch him until I got back on my feet.

Logan died when she left him alone over who knows how long, she hadn't answered the phone in weeks. I should have kicked in the door to her shitty low income apartment.

So trying to save my buddy killed him, and removed any of the scrap of feelings I had for that selfish bitch.

Anyways, I've had enough for one life. Take care, and enjoy the FEMA camps. I'm going into the woods, possibly permanently. Good luck.
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Op, You need Jesus. God loves you so very much. I have been delivered from depression and severe anxiety.

Our mind is the battlefield, the thoughts we think shape our lives. Stinking thinking makes us sick. You need hope and that hope can be found in the name of Jesus.

God loves you. He has a plan for your life. Joy can be found in Him. I promise. I believe in you. The only person that can fill the void you fill in your heart is Jesus.

hf
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DONT YOU DARE GIVE UP!!!!
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op

you will be happy to know that you are not as empty as you think.

The very fact I care about you is evidence you are far from empty.

 Quoting: fireman2013


And OP are you empty and void of real life?

Or only empty of this fake BS that society tries to pass off as being both real, whilst being a game, at the same time?
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I am so sorry for all you have gone through, OP. Please don't give up.

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OP .... You have completely written the story of my life from losing your wife .. losing your home.. even down to looking younger . I am 50 now and lost my wife a lifetime ago , my children don't want to know me due to my not wanting them involved with the drug abusing ,wife beating ex-prostitution ex-inlaws and their spawn of vermin children ..

So they fed my children full of lies and drugs and turned them against me .
Don't give up ,i did at first when my father died and 2 weeks later my grandmother .

But the GLP helped turn my life around ,reading conspiracy and other things on here really helped me when i was on a low ebb,now i got a new house and new job 300 miles away from all the troubles in my previous life and things are looking up and they will for you too......
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Time to revisit this one.

Still cannot feel joy or pleasure. Still homeless and jobless, but I am staying with a younger couple who took me in. I try to help them, and many others, but I can't focus on myself. No goals, no hope, financially ruined, but still helping others.

I haven't had a dollar since last August. Still alive and physically quite healthy except for the shattered teeth in my mouth which, luckily, are not visible from a smile. Never figured out how to regrow tooth enamel.

Stronger and faster than in my twenties two decades ago. Haven't been sick for a long while. Losing fat, gaining muscle. If only I could fix my mind as easily as I can my physical body.

Anyways, hey internet folks, first post of any kind in several months, don't get the net often. I wish you all well and hope for the best for you all.
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Only one thing left to do sadman.
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Father I ask that you will bring peace beyond understanding to this child. I ask that you will remember him and his suffering Father. He is lost Father,his words call out to you Father. You have said if one seeks you will open the door unto him. Father he is asking and pleading. I ask Father that you who cannot lie fulfill your promises made unto us and answer his call. Father I ask not in my strength but that of Jesus the Nazarene. Your will be done. Amen
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I believe I know how you feel. I keep the faith and try to do some social things to meet other people. I have one person I can call a true friend. I'd like to have more but that takes a lot of energy. I have been single for a very long time because I don't want to put up all the bullshit that goes with most relationships. I don't know where I fit but keep going. I do whatever is necessary to improve myself as being an approachable person. I go on, believing anything I do right in this life will improve my position in the next. Be the best human being you can be.
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Father I ask that you will bring peace beyond understanding to this child. I ask that you will remember him and his suffering Father. He is lost Father,his words call out to you Father. You have said if one seeks you will open the door unto him. Father he is asking and pleading. I ask Father that you who cannot lie fulfill your promises made unto us and answer his call. Father I ask not in my strength but that of Jesus the Nazarene. Your will be done. Amen
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It's no good, you didn't reach the required 10 Fathers in this paragraph,sorry.
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I read the words "her child" then scanned to "real love".

One must first know love to find love. You seem to be on the right path. Perhaps a maytag box is in your future.
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just do what I did.

When Satan attacks you, use it to get closer to God. Then it backfires on him every time.

Soon enough he will be scared to touch you, cause he will just know that it will end up making you even more determined.
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Well said.
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Sounds like you still are in mourning of a loved one. The loved one that filled the gap from your childhood. Now only thing you got left is yourself. That would make most people depressed.

I'm no expert, but please listen to your feelings if the work of your loss is incomplete. We seldomly can get over a loss in full, but we can make it not strangling our own life force. Life is much about perspective, try different viewpoints, try new stuff, you'll find something to heal back on track or get some peace.

And stuff you cannot change, even if you give it your best, let them be. It's just wasting energy. If you know you tried every route to change it, and still continue - it's a sure trip spiralling to the pit of everlasting bitterness.

Get well. Stuff to do.
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You sound completely and absolutely self absorbed. I understand that state of being, because I used to live there.

I am sorry for your loss and I am sure the pain you went through is unimaginable. For that I'll say a prayer for you.

I have to refuse your request though and tell you that humans are weak, miserable and sinful....self absorbed to the point of lunacy. The strongest man on this planet is but a breath away from dying.

Christ did overcome death, and yes I know the hate that this statement will bring, and I could care less. It took me years to find the truth and the truth of the Bible and Christ as God is not even a debatable subject to those who have studied history and eschatology.

So I would say to you, repent, realize that alone you are but a weak human and just as awful as the next guy, and just as capable as evil as everyone else.

Only when you accept Christ will you find the Truth. I pray that you do. Because as I have said, I have been just where you are, feeling nothing and basically ready to take a blowtorch to the world. It doesn't last, nor does it work. If you are lucky you will simply fall in love again, if you are unlucky you will implode and hurt yourself and possibly others. Because while I understand you are talking about stopping "evil madmen"....you need to realize that this is called grandiosity. Eventually this state of feeling "nothing" will turn into lunacy, and from there, well...

Good post though, you write with honesty and I can see that.
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I know exactly how you feel, only the order is backwards. About 7 years ago I was in the best physical shape of my life, I was a truly magnificent specimen of the human body. I had enough money to have whatever I want. I had any women I chose to be with. Through it all I was empty, void of emotion, incapable of feeling. People told me how great I looked, how lucky I was, how happy I must be. All I could manage was a fake smile. Then one day something happened, at the time I thought that it was the worst thing that could ever happen to me.

That horrible situation turned out to be the best thing that happened to me in my entire life. That mistake I made late one night turned into my daughter, the woman I was with turned into the love of m life.

I am no longer a social pariah, a specimen of physical perfection no longer. But I am now a father and husband to the most wonderful family I could ever wish for.

I do understand what a person in the mindset that you are in is capable of, and my recommendation to you. Become the person that your late wife would approve of. Otherwise you will no longer be able to look in the mirror. BTW there are people that are making a difference, but they are changing the world by example.

Sincerely:
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The trials you are facing will make you stronger. You have a good heart, you are a good person. You have made mistakes, but you are forgiven. Don't throw away the gift that has been given to you. You have a purpose, it is evident by your pain. You will help many people through your experience of heartbreak and suffering. It is time to open up.

Psalm 34:18

The Lord is near to the brokenhearted and saves the crushed in spirit.
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I empathize with you, I really do. Sometimes you gotta go down the well quite far until you hit what you think is absolute darkness. Then, just climbing out becomes a reason to keep going, and something to focus on. You have the brains for it, and i think that somewhere inside, the drive.I hope your story has a happy ending.

As far as doing anything permanent, think to what if you had done something like that after your pops passed away? You would never have got to have that great love with the wife.Hopefully you can look back on this dark time many years from now with a smile on your face, I sincerely hope so.

Good luck, I sincerely mean that.





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