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Sandy Hook - Four Basic Questions (repost fr. general topics)

 
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I think I've watched every hoax video, news video, read blogs forums, etc. I've narrowed it down to these main questions. Hoping for answers.


1. Video from school. Does anyone know what time the only chopper video was shot? When was the school evacuated- kids, teachers, cafeteria workers, janitorial, admin. staff.? Did they drive their cars away and leave parking spots for LE/EMS to ALL pull in forward? Where were emergency vehicles?
2. Fire Station. Who were all those people wakling around by themselves in a single line, in and out of doors? Does everyone in Newtown wear jeans to work on a Friday? Guys still in fireman gear? Why are there so many young looking guys and not many "mom" looking women? Where were the KIDS reunited w/parents? Why was the road and driveway allowed to be completely blocked by cars?
3. Adam Lanza "alien" photo - Where was it from? Certainly not a driver's license or school id. We would have seen the whole thing.
4. Why did "Gingerbread House Dad" arrive through the woods and run away? Any other parents attending the gingerbread fest?

I've stopped looking at crisis actors, Gene Rosen, phoney parents & wittnesses, photoshop pics, satan, illuminati, masons, etc. I have no theory other than something is WRONG.

I have many more, but can anyone answer these basic questions PLEASE???
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Good questions I guess
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Excellent post JustAskyn. If all inquiries were as focused as those questions (and maybe a couple more) and we repeated them over and over, ultimately the rats, conspirators, liars, domestic terrorists, and handsomely compensated secret-keepers would be exposed to the light of day. Unfortunately too many of us indulge in flights of fancy, which ultimately helps maintain the secrecy and keeps questioners in the "conspiracy" category. I agree, we simply don't know completely what happened that day, but it worries me to think that we live in a country that thinks that what we were told is anywhere near sufficient.
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and the following:

1) all the ambulances "blocked in" by parked cars

2) Adam dead the day before the killings

3) Nancy arriving from a hotel stay the day before in Bretton Woods

4) Adam had RYAN's ID on him

5) Gene Rosen saying the bus driver was "female" and then later "male"

6) Confirmation by state authorities that NO rifle was found in the school

7) Closed caskets at the funerals

8) State Troopers assigned to each families home (no parents could talk to discuss their version of the events until after it was too late.

9) Robbie Parker laughing/smiling before his interview

10) Robbie Parker getting a haircut the day after his daughter's murder

11) Doors left open on car out front after the shootings (to prove more than one person involved)

12) Anderson Cooper's "green screen" interview.

13) Families of "victims" moving away weeks after the event.


Very sloppy job of a staged event. Almost so much that they "wanted" to get busted to create the public outcry and a potential "civil war" in the U.S. But the sheeple didn't notice. Pathetic.
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i had to stop reading about this ridiculous story because its quite clear we arent getting answers that are real from any official sources. these are not necessarily "answers" but additional thoughts on your points;

1. the chopper video is not time stamped and there's speculation that the videos from the actual school and firehouse was mixed with pre recorded "drill" footage and other footage. for example, the chopper footage that "showed police storming into the building" was actually from a seperate location, a different school, a drill, but was aired during the news and presented as if it was sandy hook. theres no real footage of officers entering/arriving on scene. everything "happened" before cameras got there (and note, there is no cell phone/amateur footage of the ENTIRE event anywhere on youtube.

2. another thing to note about the fire station is the one apparent real journalist/photographer who is intimidated and scared away from the scene by several men when she approaches toward the building, her camera is blocked and she's physically bullied away.

3. good question. the weirdest thing about the photos to me is how artificially wide and creepy his eyes look in every picture. it looks like they are photoshopped to make his irises and pupils smaller and the whites of his eyes bigger.. have you ever seen someone where you can see the ENTIRE iris and theres white of the eye all around , above, and below it, visible? i havent.. this is how the eye looks, you dont see whites ALL around it, it looks creepy as hell that way, giving people the initial impression at a glance "woah he looks insane!". [link to www.google.com (secure)]

4. the official story of the man in the woods, as told by the newtown bee, is that he was "an off duty tactical officer from a different city" who came to help.

right -- so he happened to be wearing camo pants and a black shirt (similar to the black shirts found on the ground outside of lanza's car which were never explained despite being caught in photo evidence AND mentioned by a victim's mother in a katie couric interview) while he was off cuty... right.. and he had his police scanner on him? while off duty? and he was armed? and he was right by the school , close enough to get there first.. and he "came to help" , yet he was apprehended RUNNING AWAY FROM THE SCHOOL! what a brave "tactical officer".
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and the following:

1) all the ambulances "blocked in" by parked cars

2) Adam dead the day before the killings

3) Nancy arriving from a hotel stay the day before in Bretton Woods

4) Adam had RYAN's ID on him

5) Gene Rosen saying the bus driver was "female" and then later "male"

6) Confirmation by state authorities that NO rifle was found in the school

7) Closed caskets at the funerals

8) State Troopers assigned to each families home (no parents could talk to discuss their version of the events until after it was too late.

9) Robbie Parker laughing/smiling before his interview

10) Robbie Parker getting a haircut the day after his daughter's murder

11) Doors left open on car out front after the shootings (to prove more than one person involved)

12) Anderson Cooper's "green screen" interview.

13) Families of "victims" moving away weeks after the event.


Very sloppy job of a staged event. Almost so much that they "wanted" to get busted to create the public outcry and a potential "civil war" in the U.S. But the sheeple didn't notice. Pathetic.
 Quoting: dmhennen


1 - indeed, the ambulances were never loaded up, bodies were never taken to the hospital to declare death, EMT personell were not allowed inside the entire time.. the bodies were declared dead by police (apparently) , never saw a medic, and stayed in the building overnight until they were taken away at an unknown time, never documented (this is a huge point IMO and indicates something even more than a staged/planned event... i fear those kids could still be alive somewhere.)

4 - this was never explained and it makes no sense to me. why also did he have ear plugs in allegedly? to me that fits right along with being taken there by other people who did the shooting then killed him.. i could see an autistic kid wanting ear plugs during the chaos OR using them because he thought he was going to some training drill or game.

5 - not to mention gene's horrible acting, KEEPING THE KIDS IN HIS HOUSE FOR EXTENDED TIMES WITHOUT CALLING 911, etc. i believe gene actually maintained that the bus driver was female the entire time but that there was also a man there loudly screaming at the kids to stay calm. the man "disappeared" after that and the bus driver was never named, never came forward in the media, is still unproven to exist.

6 - the "confirmations" and then contradicting statements from everything from which guns were used, to how many shots were fired, to the medical examiner not knowing how many victims there were...

11 - again , theres a photo of the car with all doors open and 3 (i think 3 ) black hoodies on the ground near it.
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take your questions to the u.s. military generals' corps c/o pentagon. their people - both global and domestic - seem to be at the scene before, during and after all our hinky television "dramas" and fictional "media" events like the op's example
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Good questions OP.

But there is one question that trumps all others, IMHO;

Where are the lawsuits?

Not one lawsuit of note to,date. Not possible given the circumstances.
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Good questions OP.

But there is one question that trumps all others, IMHO;

Where are the lawsuits?

Not one lawsuit of note to,date. Not possible given the circumstances.
 Quoting: Emlapal


^^^THIS^^^^
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"1. the chopper video is not time stamped and there's speculation that the videos from the actual school and firehouse was mixed with pre recorded "drill" footage and other footage. for example, the chopper footage that "showed police storming into the building" was actually from a seperate location, a different school, a drill, but was aired during the news and presented as if it was sandy hook. theres no real footage of officers entering/arriving on scene. everything "happened" before cameras got there (and note, there is no cell phone/amateur footage of the ENTIRE event anywhere on youtube."

About the helicopter footage - was any of the drill footage shown "live" on TV and presented as real-time? I ask because not only would that prove some sort of BS, but how in the name of God did they get video of a previous drill to news stations within an hour or so of a real shooting event? How did the news get their hands on it, and how fast did they get it on the news?
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"1. the chopper video is not time stamped and there's speculation that the videos from the actual school and firehouse was mixed with pre recorded "drill" footage and other footage. for example, the chopper footage that "showed police storming into the building" was actually from a seperate location, a different school, a drill, but was aired during the news and presented as if it was sandy hook. theres no real footage of officers entering/arriving on scene. everything "happened" before cameras got there (and note, there is no cell phone/amateur footage of the ENTIRE event anywhere on youtube."

About the helicopter footage - was any of the drill footage shown "live" on TV and presented as real-time? I ask because not only would that prove some sort of BS, but how in the name of God did they get video of a previous drill to news stations within an hour or so of a real shooting event? How did the news get their hands on it, and how fast did they get it on the news?
 Quoting: chainssepp


It still makes no sense to me why a drill of any sort would have helicopter footage at all? This footage, and the timing, was a little too convenient.
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"1. the chopper video is not time stamped and there's speculation that the videos from the actual school and firehouse was mixed with pre recorded "drill" footage and other footage. for example, the chopper footage that "showed police storming into the building" was actually from a seperate location, a different school, a drill, but was aired during the news and presented as if it was sandy hook. theres no real footage of officers entering/arriving on scene. everything "happened" before cameras got there (and note, there is no cell phone/amateur footage of the ENTIRE event anywhere on youtube."

About the helicopter footage - was any of the drill footage shown "live" on TV and presented as real-time? I ask because not only would that prove some sort of BS, but how in the name of God did they get video of a previous drill to news stations within an hour or so of a real shooting event? How did the news get their hands on it, and how fast did they get it on the news?
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It still makes no sense to me why a drill of any sort would have helicopter footage at all? This footage, and the timing, was a little too convenient.
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Okay now think of this. What if the footage is from a drone? Now it makes sense doesnt it. The way the camera footage works its hard to imagine that it is actually a helicopter.

The drone use would be provided by the government during a drill right?
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"1. the chopper video is not time stamped and there's speculation that the videos from the actual school and firehouse was mixed with pre recorded "drill" footage and other footage. for example, the chopper footage that "showed police storming into the building" was actually from a seperate location, a different school, a drill, but was aired during the news and presented as if it was sandy hook. theres no real footage of officers entering/arriving on scene. everything "happened" before cameras got there (and note, there is no cell phone/amateur footage of the ENTIRE event anywhere on youtube."

About the helicopter footage - was any of the drill footage shown "live" on TV and presented as real-time? I ask because not only would that prove some sort of BS, but how in the name of God did they get video of a previous drill to news stations within an hour or so of a real shooting event? How did the news get their hands on it, and how fast did they get it on the news?
 Quoting: chainssepp


It still makes no sense to me why a drill of any sort would have helicopter footage at all? This footage, and the timing, was a little too convenient.
 Quoting: dmhennen


Okay now think of this. What if the footage is from a drone? Now it makes sense doesnt it. The way the camera footage works its hard to imagine that it is actually a helicopter.

The drone use would be provided by the government during a drill right?
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The government told me that there are no surveillance drones in United States airspace.

All kidding aside, buried somewhere in James Tracy's blog there was a mention of a helicopter filming the school ten minutes after the first 911 call. Now THAT is impossible.
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IMO this is still the biggest hoax since 9/11. Boston bombing was small potatoes. Anything that involves children IMO crosses the red line (quoting Obama).

I believe it is already to late for us. We have blatant acts of deceit and aggression against the population and nothing, I mean NOTHING is done....by anyone.

Where are the protests in the streets? All we get is a few dedicated web creators and some YouTube enthusiasts trying to educate the populace, but NOTHING ever comes of it.

We had more time, money and coverage of random shit like fucking O.J., or Trayvon, or causes like defending marriage.

Seriously? Marriage? Doesn't sound like marriage is all that good for the country:

The 2004 State of Our Unions report reveals that "marriages that end in divorce also are very costly to the public. One researcher determined that a single divorce costs state and federal governments about $30,000, based on such things as the higher use of food stamps and public housing as well as increased bankruptcies and juvenile delinquency. The nation's 10.4 million divorces in 2002 are estimated to have cost the taxpayers over $30 billion."

In the U.S., "the average divorce costs nearly $50,000, and ... $175 billion is spent annually on divorce, mostly on litigation."

Government is spending close to $1 billion a year attempting to alleviate the suffering and problems associated with divorce. In fact, nearly every social program dollar Georgia spends is directly related to a need that was created by broken families.

"... When marriages break apart, or fail to form in the first place, there is a heavy human cost, but in Arizona, taxpayers are also paying through the nose to government for things like child support enforcement ($37.7 million in FY 1998), domestic violence programs ($9.7 million for FY 1998), child abuse and neglect ($113.4 million for FY 1998) not to mention welfare benefits to mothers who are dependent due to divorce and court system costs. If we can reduce the divorce rate in any measurable fashion, it will save the taxpayers substantial dollars.
[link to www.divorcereform.org]

I agree, where are the law suits or the money paid to the families by the government, typical of huge disasters like 9/11? How can the Newtown school district even keep the other schools open with the law suits? Oh wait, there aren't any.

This is from the superintendent on the sandy hook web site, "The counselors will also provide information to families regarding $2,000 in counseling funds that are being made available by the State’s Office of Victim Services to all children who were at Sandy Hook on December 14th."

What about the survivors? What about law suits against the police department that told the kids to close their eyes as we walk you through a brutal crime scene? What about the trauma to the whole student body of having to hear their fellow classmates being murdered??

Keep this going....something more than web pages and videos needs to be done!!!
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IMO this is still the biggest hoax since 9/11. Boston bombing was small potatoes. Anything that involves children IMO crosses the red line (quoting Obama).

I believe it is already to late for us. We have blatant acts of deceit and aggression against the population and nothing, I mean NOTHING is done....by anyone.

Where are the protests in the streets? All we get is a few dedicated web creators and some YouTube enthusiasts trying to educate the populace, but NOTHING ever comes of it.

We had more time, money and coverage of random shit like fucking O.J., or Trayvon, or causes like defending marriage.

Seriously? Marriage? Doesn't sound like marriage is all that good for the country:

The 2004 State of Our Unions report reveals that "marriages that end in divorce also are very costly to the public. One researcher determined that a single divorce costs state and federal governments about $30,000, based on such things as the higher use of food stamps and public housing as well as increased bankruptcies and juvenile delinquency. The nation's 10.4 million divorces in 2002 are estimated to have cost the taxpayers over $30 billion."

In the U.S., "the average divorce costs nearly $50,000, and ... $175 billion is spent annually on divorce, mostly on litigation."

Government is spending close to $1 billion a year attempting to alleviate the suffering and problems associated with divorce. In fact, nearly every social program dollar Georgia spends is directly related to a need that was created by broken families.

"... When marriages break apart, or fail to form in the first place, there is a heavy human cost, but in Arizona, taxpayers are also paying through the nose to government for things like child support enforcement ($37.7 million in FY 1998), domestic violence programs ($9.7 million for FY 1998), child abuse and neglect ($113.4 million for FY 1998) not to mention welfare benefits to mothers who are dependent due to divorce and court system costs. If we can reduce the divorce rate in any measurable fashion, it will save the taxpayers substantial dollars.
[link to www.divorcereform.org]

I agree, where are the law suits or the money paid to the families by the government, typical of huge disasters like 9/11? How can the Newtown school district even keep the other schools open with the law suits? Oh wait, there aren't any.

This is from the superintendent on the sandy hook web site, "The counselors will also provide information to families regarding $2,000 in counseling funds that are being made available by the State’s Office of Victim Services to all children who were at Sandy Hook on December 14th."

What about the survivors? What about law suits against the police department that told the kids to close their eyes as we walk you through a brutal crime scene? What about the trauma to the whole student body of having to hear their fellow classmates being murdered??

Keep this going....something more than web pages and videos needs to be done!!!
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^^THIS^^
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Someone needs to make a 'loose change' type of documentary about all the inconsistencies surrounding this incident.
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I know this is redundant but....

Where is there any BLOOD?

12 kids survive the horror in the room with Soto's massacre, running around the floors, the LEO's that went in and wandered around the area, NO BLOOD trace on anyone?! Really?
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5 stars for the reawakening!
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