Mexicans are 95% Native American, and are more entitled to North America than YOU, who's ancestors IMIGRATED here

"I dont want anything from you but to be left alone, you have yours and I'll earn mine. If my having something offends you, and you feel I took a slice of your pie, go fuck yourself, loser."


Ahhhh, but I want absolutely nothing from you...you are the one supporting those who seek to steal from others. I dont "have" mine, we earn it, yet count it as a Blessing, because we are very fortunate to have the chance to earn it.

As for only wanting to be left alone? You are funny IDW, pathetically so! You are the one that started this thread, no? You are the one who started this tirade against the "white man", no? You are the one supporting criminals that seek to FORCE and OPPRESS others, no better than the criminals that reside in other self-appointed and deceptive seats of authority! So if you just want to be left alone, why make yourself wide open to debate?


"It is correctly stated that the apple doesnot fall far from th tree. You are what you came from are you not?"

Sorry, but this ol' adage has been proven incorrect through the pseudo-science-religion of psychology. It is a combination of nature AND nurture; innate and external.

"I dont want anything from you but to be left alone, you have yours and I'll earn mine."

Nor do I want anything from you; I do not take government hand outs, nor charity. I feel that is better left for those who have absolutely nothing, or who get caught between a rock and a hard place and who desperately need it. I have no problem with someone who EARNS their share, but dont expect me to allow you to come into mine to take what you want, because that is NOT earning, but criminal behavior, just like what Atzlan is demanding!

"those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it."

Maybe, but then again, maybe not. But to hold grudges, to seek vengeance, or to retaliate against someone who has done you wrong is no better than falling to the depths of the depravity of the one you seek after.

"What you precieve as wisdom , I precieve as a one sided hypocritical nonesense that ignnores the opposing viewpoint and history because it is uncomfortable to realize you are worst than those you seek to oppress."

You said that you perceive "a one sided hypocritical nonesense that ignnores the opposing viewpoint and history because it is uncomfortable to realize you are worst than those you seek to oppress." I take this as an accusation: So tell me, explicitely, how am I worse than those who I see to oppress? Are you telling me, little ol' me, that I have that much power, that I can oppress anyone?

And no, I dont have a guilty conscience of anything my ancestors did before my grandparents were even a thought in the minds of their parents. If you think that I have the power to oppress anyone, then you give me too much credit my dear!

People united will never be defeated? Let's see - Germany united under Hitler. Japan under Togo. The South with Davis and Lee. The Saxons against William. Rome against the Goths. Troy against Greeks. Oh heck, it makes a good slogan anyway.

"Statistaclly, they work harder for less than Americans. This is in fact why the lowlife among the white oppose thier presence.

And you blame all that on mexican immigrants, idiot? Look east toward Europe, and the jew moneychangers who run your ass."

I dont know or care where you are located, but here in MN, Hispanics, Cubans, Cambodians, Somolians, etc make the SAME as their fellow co-workers (ohhh nooo, the "white man"...run!). And I dont know where you get your info about how they are looked upon, but here, Mexican's are given their due respect, just the same as everyone else! If they work hard, support themselves and their families, and are not criminals, they get great respect! If they are lazy, gang-bangers, living off the government teet, and criminals, they are looked at as scum (ohhhh nooo, just like the "white man"...run!).

And no, I do not blame the Mexican immigrants for this country becoming one of servitude!

But I can see you argue based upon emotions, rather than intellect. The name calling, how mature of you, dear fellow. No wonder you lose the respect of others; you have no tact, are unable to debate another without allowing your emotions to intrude, bringing you into an arguement. It's apparent as well that you dont know how to read, since you put words into others' mouths, that were never said nor intended!

Your prejudice and hatred reveal all I need to know about you and your ideology. Your world is one I would hate to live in, have at it. I prefer mine, where every man is given his due, and every man his worth. I see no division of color, religion or race; I see a fellow human being, who hurts, cries, laughs, loves, just like I do, to different degrees. But sometimes, you just happen to run across those who have no heart, and they reveal it to you through their vile hatred of others.

Thanks Omega,

I was hoping that these words would penetrate through IDW's hardened heart, but apparently it isnt meant to be so.

I think I'll stay out of this, though I have alot to say...

Reading this thread I started to laugh at one thing mentioned here on GLP...

"There are great reptilian forces gathering in order to reclaim Earth as their birthplace of origin...they will use force to take back this very important and strategic planet..." go figure lol

['Ahhhh, but I want absolutely nothing from you...you are the one supporting those who seek to steal from others.']

this labeling of mexican imigrants as automatically being thieves is indicative of the lack of understanding on a basic level on your part, and a prejudice that reveals your motivation in reality as opposed to what you claim.



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[' I dont "have" mine, we earn it, yet count it as a Blessing, because we are very fortunate to have the chance to earn it.

As for only wanting to be left alone? You are funny IDW, pathetically so! You are the one that started this thread, no? ']



I was obviously placing this here for reasons of debate.
I was of course not attempting to squelch the debate, this is the proper place for it so lets quit the stupidity.You probably want to be ledt alone as well, yet you posted here as well.





['You are the one who started this tirade against the "white man", no? You are the one supporting criminals that seek to FORCE and OPPRESS others, no better than the criminals that reside in other self-appointed and deceptive seats of authority!']

Like Bush? Lol

Mexican immigrants are not oppresing you, nor are they forcing anything on you other than to LEAVE THEM BE.

[' So if you just want to be left alone, why make yourself wide open to debate?']


You cannot be this lame! So far, this has not been a debate, but a confirmation of the hypocritical morality of white americans.







["It is correctly stated that the apple doesnot fall far from th tree. You are what you came from are you not?"

Sorry, but this ol' adage has been proven incorrect through the pseudo-science-religion of psychology. It is a combination of nature AND nurture; innate and external.']


I see you read my posts on the physics forum. Intresting. The term "psuedo science-religion" I have used there. Intresting you should use it here to reenforce your position with false sarcasm. By the way, every breeder knows blood is everything in determining the nature of the offspring. We breed bird dogs and carrots with this knowledge. It's the same for humans. if it's in your blood to be an oppresive fool who thinks your shit doesnt stink, you will be.



['Nor do I want anything from you; I do not take government hand outs, nor charity. I feel that is better left for those who have absolutely nothing, or who get caught between a rock and a hard place and who desperately need it. I have no problem with someone who EARNS their share, but dont expect me to allow you to come into mine to take what you want, because that is NOT earning, but criminal behavior, just like what Atzlan is demanding!']

Thats too bad for you, the way you took it is the way you will lose it. Your ancestors' decendants against mine. Your ancestors took it through what in most societies is considered criminal activity, yet you hypocritically cry foul when mexicans want equal treatment under the law. FUCK YOU TO, REDNECK




["those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it."

Maybe, but then again, maybe not. But to hold grudges, to seek vengeance, or to retaliate against someone who has done you wrong is no better than falling to the depths of the depravity of the one you seek after']

I have confidence the world will unite against you and defeat you, and what you represent. It is not a selfish desire.


['You said that you perceive "a one sided hypocritical nonesense that ignnores the opposing viewpoint and history because it is uncomfortable to realize you are worst than those you seek to oppress." I take this as an accusation: So tell me, explicitely, how am I worse than those who I see to oppress? Are you telling me, little ol' me, that I have that much power, that I can oppress anyone?']

No, but as I said before, two hundred millin ignorant motherfuckers like you can cause all of us to suffer interminably.

['And no, I dont have a guilty conscience of anything my ancestors did before my grandparents were even a thought in the minds of their parents.']


because you suppress what your conscious tells you through through rationalization?


[' If you think that I have the power to oppress anyone, then you give me too much credit my dear! ']

I think youre a loser without any power by yourself, intellectually or otherwise. That is why you oppose mexican equality before american law, which is coming to the soutwest like it or not.





['But I can see you argue based upon emotions, rather than intellect. The name calling, how mature of you, dear fellow. No wonder you lose the respect of others; you have no tact, are unable to debate another without allowing your emotions to intrude, bringing you into an arguement. ']

I am not here to be liked or to boost my ego through popularity. I know I'm right and so do you, whether you can admit it or not. Mission accomplished, Sometimes the truth can be bludgeoning.

['It's apparent as well that you dont know how to read, since you put words into others' mouths, that were never said nor intended!

Your prejudice and hatred reveal all I need to know about you and your ideology.']

I hate the enemy. So do you. The difference between me and you is you are a liar, and of course my enemy is justifiably called my enemy because of his actions,and yours is called such because of your actions .

['Your world is one I would hate to live in, have at it. I prefer mine, where every man is given his due, and every man his worth.']

Idiot, your so blanatantly hypocritical it's unreal. if what you just wrote was true you would be on my side of this issue.LIAR~


['I see no division of color, religion or race; I see a fellow human being, who hurts, cries, laughs, loves, just like I do, to different degrees. But sometimes, you just happen to run across those who have no heart, and they reveal it to you through their vile hatred of others. ']

As long as thier not mexican, or maybe a "nigger" that wants to live next door? Youre not fooling me. Forked tongue.

If you truely believed what you said here you wouldnt be fighting mexican rights in america. Mexicans ARE americans, they live in morth america.

Been here since Steadman's forum and have read IDW's volumes of posts over the years, but this one just dropped my respect for him down to the ground. It is really funny that you call us Americans fat and lazy when this predominantly European ancestry bunch has produced the country in the world that all the others have envied in the past decades. Now that the Neocons want to divide and conquer and water down the percentage of whites until they are a minority, it is starting to fall apart and that is intended. Mexico is a shithole compared to America. The Mexicans that have come here are successful because they emulate and learn from the Europeans that have made this country what it is up until now. If they had kept the Mexican attitudes that they brought from Mexico with no one to imitate, this country would turn into a second Mexican shithole. Everybody hates the Americans, but what people from what other country are any better? No answer.....I thought so!!!!!!! Don't give me the bullshit that Mexicans are any more hardworking that Americans are. I am a female and I picked fruit in the hot sun from 12 years old to buy my school clothes. The kids of the Mexicans are just as lazy and fat once Daddy has a good job and can fund the trips to the mall...just like their white and black counterparts. We all had to work harder when out ancestors first came here. As the next generation becomes more successful, they won't be any different than any body else. When America starts to fail economically as is intended by the Zionists and Neocons (redundant I know) that run this country, we'll all be working hard to survive. The twenty or thirty million illegals are going to make it even more difficult. Whitey and Blackey aren't going to like those illegals a bit then...

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We saw you coming, and we see you going.

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In actual fact so-called native Americans have only been in the Americas for less than 4,000 years and were preceded by pure negroes whose offspring stll exist in some Indian tribes. Most native american redskins have words describing the ancient ones, or those who no longer exist.

"... have read IDW's volumes of posts over the years, but this one just dropped my respect for him down to the ground."

Sad to say, my respect for IDW went out the window with this thread. I used to miss him when he didn't post. That will no longer be the case. I am white, exploit no one, wish the best for all, contibute to the reservations, live next door to a couple of Mexican immigrant neighbors whom I respect.

Is this how I am to be repaid by those who wish me dead so they can take my land, paid for and maintained so they can steal it because history did not treat them well?

I think not, IDW. I think not.

I am not the cause of your problems, IDW. Your hatred for white folks, who have no control over what has happened to this country, die with you and your kind.

I am impressed by the people who have posted much in the way of common sense here.
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IDW said:

I am not here to be liked or to boost my ego through popularity. I know I'm right and so do you, whether you can admit it or not. Mission accomplished, Sometimes the truth can be bludgeoning.

No you are not right at all, this I know, and I'm sure others do as well.

"Mission accomplished".....yes....only if your mission was to label yourself as a predjudice, senseless, and hateful jackass.

Go ahead come and take back "your land".

Good luck with that I think you are gonna need it.

["... have read IDW's volumes of posts over the years, but this one just dropped my respect for him down to the ground."

Sad to say, my respect for IDW went out the window with this thread. I used to miss him when he didn't post. That will no longer be the case. I am white, exploit no one, wish the best for all, contibute to the reservations, live next door to a couple of Mexican immigrant neighbors whom I respect.']

So what it I said that offended you? Have I thus far avoided offending you with a truth about yourself?

It is fine to be critical of others but you must also accept the measure of your own shortcomings without writing off the whole ideology because it doesnt suit you in its entirety. It's easy to claim you stand for what is right, when it comes to making a sacrificie towards doing so, the picture changes.



['Is this how I am to be repaid by those who wish me dead so they can take my land, paid for and maintained so they can steal it because history did not treat them well?']

What confuses me is you maintain that indians were rightfully ejected from thier lands by an overwhelming force, that conquest legally determines ownership, now when the worm turns you start belly aching it isn't fair. TOO FUCKING BAD!




['I think not, IDW. I think not.

I am not the cause of your problems, IDW. Your hatred for white folks, who have no control over what has happened to this country, die with you and your kind.']


I wouldn't count on it. You are not the soul decider of my fate. It is your twisted sense of morality and fairness i dispise. You say it was alright for your ancestors to steal the land, but if anyone steals it from you it is "just plain wrong".
Go cry to someone who cares.





['I am impressed by the people who have posted much in the way of common sense here.']
It is easy to support the oppressed unless it is you who is oppressing them, at least in part. if youre not part of the solution, youre the problem.
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Possesion is based on power and the will to fight for it...

The whites won out over the indians so now it's their territory...
If they fail to fight for it while others lay claims on it they will loose it again...it will become the possesion of those others...

Survival of the fittest

That's the way of the world...

you mex's come over here and immediatley try to turn our country into the total shithole you came from.

You had better understand one thing that is going to come out of all this.

LEARN TO SPEAK ENGLISH

after Monday your amnesty is toast.

you think you can bully us?

You are about to learn a very valuble lesson about americans.

You sell your labour for less, guess you know what its worth.

exactly, and the hypocrisy of the whites belly aching about it sticks in my craw.

seems like the robber who called the police because someone stole his ill gotten booty.

Idiots. You can't have it both ways. if it was alright for you to take possession of the land by force, it is obviously equally right for those you took it from to retake it from you. Belly aching about will get no sympathy for you, only ridicule!

THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS THREAD, to cram your hypocrisy down your throats until you gag on it and it sickens you to the point you reject it. Youre not better than an indian. You think you are.

Claiming you do not understand this labels you as a hypocrit.

"As for the new world order agenda of making north america a single country, I don't see any need of that, but so long as we are a free society, those who are economically inclined have a right to immigrate here and take your job, you lazy slacker."

A 'right' to immmigrate here? Don't 'rights' imply LAW? No one is saying mexicans or anyone else can't immigrate here. But, LEGALLY immigrate here. Are we a nation of law or not? What a slap in the face to all the millions who went step by step to become American citizens. Mexicans are not 'right' and Americans are not 'wrong.' Americans are not 'right' and Mexicans 'wrong.' It's not about blame. It's about living with our set of laws, or chucking the whole thing. Are you ready to do that? If so, then WELCOME TO MEXICO...land of the Bribe, home of the ignorant and poor.

You are the problem, IDW, you and those like you. Your envy of what has been accomplished in this country shows. What other men have built, you would take. You are no better than a thief. You are a disgrace to your ancestors who walked in integrity.

This is, indeed, another day, another hour. I do not have a falsity about my life that you do. I have no hatred for anyone, but when push comes to shove and someone wants to kill me when I and others have not wronged them, then it's time to fight back.

You are after the wrong people when you include all white folks who have not done you any harm. Like I said, your hatred die with you and those of your mentality, no better than TPTB. You are spiritual droids.
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"you mex's come over here and immediatley try to turn our country into the total shithole you came from."

I am not a mexican, I am Lakota/Ojibwe and from my perspective it is easy to see it is the whites who turned this continent into a shithole.



['You had better understand one thing that is going to come out of all this.

LEARN TO SPEAK ENGLISH ']

I already speak english, idiot.




['after Monday your amnesty is toast.

you think you can bully us?']

Bully you? Now wouldnt that be a bite! After centeries of oppression we would bully YOU! The unmitigated GALL!




['You are about to learn a very valuble lesson about americans.']

No thanks, I already know more than I care to. The overwhelming conclusion is that you are self righteous beyond reason.



['You sell your labour for less, guess you know what its worth. ']

I do?

Dumbass

there's that word "entitled" again.

what a bunch of bunk.

['A 'right' to immmigrate here? Don't 'rights' imply LAW? No one is saying mexicans or anyone else can't immigrate here. But, LEGALLY immigrate here. Are we a nation of law or not? What a slap in the face to all the millions who went step by step to become American citizens. ']

It is impossible to immigrate to your ancestral lands, I guess youre not smart enough to understand you are the immigrant who stolethier lands, not the other way around.


['Mexicans are not 'right' and Americans are not 'wrong.' Americans are not 'right' and Mexicans 'wrong.' It's not about blame. It's about living with our set of laws, or chucking the whole thing. Are you ready to do that?']

YES


[' If so, then WELCOME TO MEXICO...land of the Bribe, home of the ignorant and poor. ']

Like this country is not chock full of bought and paid for politicians , ignorant fucking rednecks and poor wreched souls? You are obviously unable to see the hypocrisy i am eluding to.


['You are the problem, IDW, you and those like you. Your envy of what has been accomplished in this country shows. ']

What has been accomplished in this country? By this country? Death and suffering ?
The ruination of the enviroment, the destruction of a once great people, and the respect you get in the world is overwhelming, isnt it? YOU ARE YOUR OWN PROBLEM< I am simply pointing out the defect in your reasoning.

['What other men have built, you would take. ']

No, Id demolish it and let nature take it back.

['You are no better than a thief. You are a disgrace to your ancestors who walked in integrity.']

My ancestors hated your guts and for good reason. I do not disgrace my ancestors, I disgrace YOU.

['This is, indeed, another day, another hour. I do not have a falsity about my life that you do. I have no hatred for anyone, but when push comes to shove and someone wants to kill me when I and others have not wronged them, then it's time to fight back.']

I agree, it's time to fight back, In fact, it's past time. 400 years of oppression does not make it right simply because it has gone on so long.




['You are after the wrong people when you include all white folks who have not done you any harm. Like I said, your hatred die with you and those of your mentality, no better than TPTB. You are spiritual droids.']

You all suffer from the same basic defect in your ideology that makes you unable to coexist with others without dominating them. face it, if you want to discuss stealing you must not forget to mention the lands you own were stolen. If you ligitamately took them by force, it simply is rediculous to claim those you took it from taking it back is an injustice! CRYBABY
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Ah, give IDW a hatchet in one hand and a bottle of whiskey in the other and hear his cry of "Geronimo"! Back to the days of playing cowboys and Indians. Grow up!
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IDW: your pain and rage is plain to see. I don't blame you for feeling that way. But you have let those emotions capture you and you are the prisoner. 300 years is a long time to carry that bitterness. I am not an immigrant, and you are not either. Yet I don't blame the politics of 300 years ago dictate my heart. I am part Native American and part English. The English part left England due to government oppression 300 years ago. I refuse to be a part of supporting uneducated illegal immigrants in their quest to become slaves to corporate Amerikkka. Is that so wrong? Remember: Bitterness destroys the vessel in which it is carried.
Peace...

Here's another clue that those like IDW need to get. If the Europeans hadn't put their stakes down first, it would have been the Chinese, Japanese, Indians, Arabs or another group that was more powerful than the American Indians that were living in North America at the time. Do you really think that billions of people with advancing technology were going to leave this country alone forever? If the native people at the time lived at a more primitive level than most of the world, I think what would have happened next is pretty obvious. Quit living in your wannabe utopian world. The natives in north and south america would never have kept their land away from any of dozens of groups once it was discovered. You really need to quit living in a fantasy world and accept reality as it exists. Do you really think that bringing Mexico's problems here is going to make things better? Closing the borders will force more change in Mexico than blaming everything on the neighbors...the USA.

"I refuse to be a part of supporting uneducated illegal immigrants in their quest to become slaves to corporate Amerikkka. Is that so wrong?"

As do I; there are far too many slaves to corporate Amerikkka the way it is, why enslave more peoples?


87312,

Your argument is very fearful to contemplate indeed. A very wise point.

I didnt want to post this link when I first received it, because I saw no benefit to come from it. But now I feel the time is right to do so.

[link to www.wehategringos.com]

It is a very disturbing sight to behold, one that I dont like viewing. I am far from prejudice against a people or race or religion; I judge each according to their individual fruits, rather than painting them with a wide brush. What is seen above may be a minority, but it's still disturbing to say the least.

From an email I received as a forward:


Maybe we should adopt some of their policies. >
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Subject: A US Citizen Working in Mexico

The following is from a director with SW BELL in Mexico City.

I spent five years working in Mexico. I worked under a tourist visa for three months and could legally renew it for three more months. After that I was working illegally. I was technicallyillegal for three weeks waiting on Mexican government approval of a request to be given a permanent work visa.

During that six months our Mexican and US attorneys were working to secure a permanent work visa called a FM3. It was in addition to my US passport that I had to show each time I entered and left the country. Barbara's was the same except hers did not permit her to work.

To apply for the FM3 I needed to submit the following notarized originals (not copies) of my:

1. Birth certificates for Barbara and me.
2. Marriage certificate.
3. High school transcripts and proof of graduation.
4. College transcripts for every college I attended and proof of graduation.
5. Two letters of recommendation from supervisors I had worked for at least one year.
6. A letter from The ST. Louis Chief of Police indicating I had no arrest record in the US and no outstanding warrants and was "a citizen in good standing."
7. Finally; I had to write a letter about myself that clearly stated why there was no Mexican citizen with my skills and why my skills were important to Mexico. We called it our "I am the greatest person on earth" letter. It was fun to write.

All of the above were in English that had to be translated into Spanish and be certified as legal translations and our signatures notarized. It produced a folder about 1.5 inches thick with English on the left side and Spanish on the right.

Once they were completed Barbara and I spent about five hours accompanied by a Mexican attorney touring Mexican government office locations and being photographed and fingerprinted at least three times. At each location (and we remember at least four locations) we were instructed on Mexican tax, labor, housing, and criminal law and that we were required to obey their laws or face the consequences. We could not protest any of the government's actions or we would be committing a felony. We paid out four thousand dollars in fees and bribes to complete the process. When this was done we could legally bring in our household goods that were held by US customs in Laredo Texas. This meant we rented furniture in Mexico while awaiting our goods. There were extensive fees involved here that the company paid.

We could not buy a home and were required to rent at very high rates and under contract and compliance with Mexican law.

We were required to get a Mexican drivers license. This was an amazing process. The company arranged for the licensing agency to come to our headquarters location with their photography and finger print equipment and the laminating machine. We showed our US license, were photographed and fingerprinted again and issued the license instantly after paying out a six dollar fee. We did not take a written or driving test and never received instructions on the rules of the road. Our only instruction was never give a policeman your license if stopped and asked.

We were instructed to hold it against the inside window away from his grasp. If he got his hands on it you would have to pay ransom to get it back.

We then had to pay and file Mexican income tax annually using the number of our FM3 as our ID number. The company's Mexican accountants did this for us and we just signed what they prepared. I was about twenty legal size pages annually.

The FM 3 was good for three years and renewable for two more after paying more fees.

Leaving the country meant turning in the FM# and certifying we were leaving no debts behind and no outstanding legal affairs (warrants, tickets or liens) before our household goods were released to customs.

It was a real adventure and If any of our senators or congressmen went through it once they would have a different attitude toward Mexico..

The Mexican Government uses its vast military and police forces to keep its citizens intimidated and compliant. They never protest at their White House or government offices but do protest daily in front of the United States Embassy. The US embassy looks like a strongly reinforced fortress and during most protests the Mexican Military surround the block with their men standing shoulder to shoulder in full riot gear to protect the Embassy. These protests are never shown on US or Mexican TV. There is a large public park across the street where they do their protesting..

Anything can cause a protest such as proposed law changes in California or Texas.

Please feel free to share this with everyone and especially those who think we are being hard on illegal immigrants.

Another one:


Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 3:48 PM
Subject: HISPANIC LEADERS SPEAK OUT!


Augustin Cebada, Brown Berets; "Go back to Boston! Go back to Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It is your duty to die . . . Through love of having children, we are going to take over.

Richard Alatorre, Los Angeles City Council. "They're afraid we're going to take over the governmental institutions and other institutions.They're right. We will take them over . . . We are here to stay."

Excelsior, the national newspaper of Mexico, "The American Southwest seems to be slowly returning to the jurisdiction of Mexico without firing a single shot."

Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez, University of Texas; "We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. The explosion is in our population . . . I love it. They are shitting in their pants with fear. I love it."

Art Torres, Chairman of the California Democratic Party, "Remember 187--proposition to deny taxpayer funds for services to non-citizens--was the last gasp of white America in California."

Gloria Molina, Los Angeles County Supervisor, "We are politicizing every single one of these new citizens that are becoming citizens of this country . . . I gotta tell you that a lot of people are saying, "I'm going to go out there and vote because I want to pay them back."

Mario Obledo, California Coalition of Hispanic Organizations and California State Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare under Governor Jerry Brown, also awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President Bill Clinton, "California is going to be a Hispanic state. Anyone who doesn't like it should leave."

Jose Pescador Osuna, Mexican Consul General , "We are practicing 'La Reconquista' in California."

Professor Fernando Guerra, Loyola Marymount University; "We need to avoid a white backlash by using codes understood by Latinos . . "

Are these just the words of a few extremists? Consider that we could fill up many pages with such quotes. Also, consider that these are mainstream Mexican leaders.

THE U.S. VS MEXICO:
On February 15, 1998, the U.S. and Mexican soccer teams met at the Los Angeles Coliseum. The crowd was overwhelmingly pro-Mexican even though most lived in this country. They booed during the National Anthem and U.S. flags were held upside down. As the match progressed, supporters of the U.S. team were insulted, pelted with projectiles, punched and spat upon. Beer and trash were thrown at the U.S. players before and after the match. The coach of the U.S. team, Steve Sampson said, "This was the most painful experience I have ever had in this profession."

Did you know that immigrants from Mexico and other non-European countries can come to this country and get preferences in jobs, education, and government contracts? It's called affirmative action or racial privilege. The Emperor of Japan or the President of Mexico could migrate here and immediately be eligible for special rights unavailable for Americans of European descent. Recently, a vote was taken in the U.S.
Congress to end this practice. It was defeated. Every single Democratic senator except Ernest Hollings voted to maintain special privileges for Hispanic, Asian and African immigrants. They were joined by thirteen Republicans. Bill Clinton and Al Gore have repeatedly stated that they believe that massive immigration from countries like Mexico is good. They have also backed special privileges for these immigrants.

Corporate America has signed on to the idea that minorities and third world immigrants should get special, privileged status. Some examples are Exxon, Texaco, Merrill Lynch, Boeing, Paine Weber, Starbucks and many more.

DID YOU KNOW?:
Did you know that Mexico regularly intercedes on the side of the defense in criminal cases involving Mexican nationals? Did you know that Mexico has NEVER extradited a Mexican national accused of murder in the U.S.in spite of agreements to do so? According to the L.A. Times, Orange County, California is home to 275 gangs with 17,000 members; 98% of which are Mexican and Asian. How's your county doing?

According to a New York Times article dated May 19, 1994, 20 years after the great influx of legal immigrants from Southeast Asia, 30% are still on welfare compared to 8% of households nationwide. A Wall Street Journal editorial dated December 5, 1994 quotes law enforcement officials as stating that Asian mobsters are the "greatest criminal challenge the country faces." Not bad for a group that is still under 5% of the population.

Is education important to you? Here are the words of a teacher who spent over 20 years in the Los Angeles School system. "Imagine teachers in classes containing 30-40 students of widely varying attention spans and motivation, many of whom aren't fluent in English.
Educators seek learning materials likely to reach the majority of students and that means fewer words and math problems and more pictures and multicultural references."

WHEN I WAS YOUNG:
When I was young, I remember hearing about the immigrants that came through Ellis Island. They wanted to learn English. They wanted to breath free. They wanted to become Americans. Now too many immigrants come here with demands. They demand to be taught in their own language. They demand special privileges--affirmative action. They demand ethnic studies that glorify their culture.

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