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Obama care causing rate hikes for current insurance by 80%

 
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Yep, Obama care is causing up to 80% rate hikes for those who currently have insurance. So, thanks to Obama care, those WITH insurance are going to have to pay MORE MORE MORE, or, can't afford it anymore and will have to fall into the system.

So many businesses are having to make sweeping changes, it's hurting EVERYONE. UPS is making huge changes, and will no longer be insuring spouses on policies, which is having dramatic impact on the families that rely on it. Many businesses won't be able to hire full time workers. Small businesses are getting hit too. It's so freaking tiresome. The WELFARE state is going to kill us all.

And the freaking parasites get all indignant if you bring it up!! "Oh, everyone deserves healthcare", "oh everyone deserves food and shelter and nikes and pot" you're just a monster. BS!!!

I'm so FED UP with deadbeat loser assholes dragging EVERYONE DOWN. It's not just about insurance, it's about everything. Waaah I need foodstamps, waaah I have anxiety, I'm disabled, waaah I need free medical care, waaah I need free housing, internet and schooling, waaah, I want to have 4 babies with three different daddies and you're gonna pay for it. FED UP! And these assholes who claim to be disabled or "cant make it without assistance", sit around smoking up pot and other drugs, and drinking, and playing online ALL DAMN DAY and NIGHT, they're everywhere, they're on this very board. And they have ZERO incentive to do anything. They never had any work ethic instilled in them, so they have ZERO desire to make something of themselves. Uncle Sam is paying their way, so WHY do anything? They can sit around playing videogames and getting high and trying to find baby mammas...why change? They're the LOWEST of the LOW, the DREGGS of society, and they USED TO BE the MINORITY. Now they're the MAJORITY, and assholes like Obama catering to them. IT HAS TO STOP. rant
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Obamacare is the greatest! We're all gonna get free medical from the worlds best doctors. Plus everyone that has insurance now?...it will get like way cheaper too and also way better. It's like freakin Star Trek out here, they just wave this O-beam device over you, gives you a readout and boom, done.

It's not anyone's fault that people are 110% disabled due to work anxiety related Pre-traumatic stress syndrome, Stop being such a racist prick!...
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We got our new rates at work the other day. My insurance is going up by $56 a month, until the end of the year, and then it will go up again.

Hoax and Chains bitches!!!

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Obamacare is the greatest! We're all gonna get free medical from the worlds best doctors. Plus everyone that has insurance now?...it will get like way cheaper too and also way better. It's like freakin Star Trek out here, they just wave this O-beam device over you, gives you a readout and boom, done.

It's not anyone's fault that people are 110% disabled due to work anxiety related Pre-traumatic stress syndrome, Stop being such a racist prick!...
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can someone post a really good link to articles on the rate hikes?

I have seen a few here and there but I need some more debate ammo to use on my liberal friends.
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We got our new rates at work the other day. My insurance is going up by $56 a month, until the end of the year, and then it will go up again.

Hoax and Chains bitches!!!

ohappy
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Maybe spend that $56 on 'real' food as well as whatever you were already paying (for a ponzie scheme)and get healthy.
The insurance is not compulsory.
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Here's an article on Forbes, rate hikes from 68% -149%. In my state 80% seems to be the average. I'm in Louisville,Kentucky.

[link to www.forbes.com]
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We got our new rates at work the other day. My insurance is going up by $56 a month, until the end of the year, and then it will go up again.

Hoax and Chains bitches!!!

ohappy
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Maybe spend that $56 on 'real' food as well as whatever you were already paying (for a ponzie scheme)and get healthy.
The insurance is not compulsory.
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NO NO NO!!!

This can't be accurate...

Obama said our healthcare premiums would go DOWN by $2,500 per family... this was back in 2009. It must be true because he was re-elected.

Everyone... check your numbers again... spy on your fellow GLPer. Look for stress... divorce... financial problems. Failure to report your fellow GLPers could result in fines or imprisonment!

(and yes, for those that are dense, I am just kidding)
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can someone post a really good link to articles on the rate hikes?

I have seen a few here and there but I need some more debate ammo to use on my liberal friends.
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From June, Ohio rate hikes:
[link to www.washingtontimes.com]

California rate hikes:
[link to www.forbes.com]

Washington State:
[link to www.forbes.com]

Those should give you a starting point for a discussion with the lib-tard sheep.
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My company's healthcare PPO went from approximately $3600 per year to $7400 per year.

The benefit changed completely.

They replaced it with an High Deductible HSA Healthcare plan.

I had no choice but to enroll in the HSA plan and we just had a baby so even though we're saving $1000 over the cost of the PPO, we're still getting killed with bills.
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We got our new rates at work the other day. My insurance is going up by $56 a month, until the end of the year, and then it will go up again.

Hoax and Chains bitches!!!

ohappy
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The insurance is not compulsory.
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YES YES IT IS. AUSSIETARD. IT IS COMPULSORY. If you choose NOT to carry insurance you, get FINED with a tax on your income. Taxy McTaxerson is gonna get in your pockets, gotta support the derpy deadbeat masses somehow ya know.
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thanks OP and Lady Jane
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My company's healthcare PPO went from approximately $3600 per year to $7400 per year.

The benefit changed completely.

They replaced it with an High Deductible HSA Healthcare plan.

I had no choice but to enroll in the HSA plan and we just had a baby so even though we're saving $1000 over the cost of the PPO, we're still getting killed with bills.
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^This! 0bama does not care, he HATES the middle class.
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thanks OP and Lady Jane
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This one is very good for an overview:

[link to www.naturalnews.com]

"... In the long run, nobody benefits with Obamacare. It may seem that some people will receive lower costs for health insurance, but in the end, these people will never learn the responsibility of taking care of their own health. They will become even bigger slaves to a sick system of "health" care.

That's because at the heart of Obamacare is entitlement. Before the law, some people faced higher out-of-pocket costs, because they were less-healthy, or higher risk individuals. Now, under Obamacare, these individuals become entitled to insurance coverage, forcing healthier people to absorb the costs.

This is where the mandate comes in. By mandating everyone to pay into the system, the government forces healthy, more responsible individuals to pay for the failing system's pharmaceutical drug system. By collecting penalty money from most everyone, the government can continue funding a system of redistribution of wealth and mass pharmaceutical drugging..."

More at link

Learn more: [link to www.naturalnews.com]
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"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."
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We got our new rates at work the other day. My insurance is going up by $56 a month, until the end of the year, and then it will go up again.

Hoax and Chains bitches!!!

ohappy
 Quoting: chuckles 2417276

The insurance is not compulsory.
 Quoting: plzxplain


YES YES IT IS. AUSSIETARD. IT IS COMPULSORY. If you choose NOT to carry insurance you, get FINED with a tax on your income. Taxy McTaxerson is gonna get in your pockets, gotta support the derpy deadbeat masses somehow ya know.
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Not compulsory, see my thread (don't know how to put it here)

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[link to washingtonexaminer.com]

"Internal cost estimates from 17 of the nation's largest insurance companies indicate that health insurance premiums will grow an average of 100 percent under Obamacare, and that some will soar more than 400 percent, crushing the administration's goal of affordability.

New regulations, policies, taxes, fees and mandates are the reason for the unexpected "rate shock," according to the House Energy and Commerce Committee, which released a report Monday based on internal documents provided by the insurance companies. The 17 companies include Aetna, Blue Cross Blue Shield and Kaiser Foundation..."

more at link
Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided.

"Don't die on a small cross..." Saddletramp's Mom

"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."
-- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564.

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May God have mercy on his soul;
Im'about done.
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My company's healthcare PPO went from approximately $3600 per year to $7400 per year.

The benefit changed completely.

They replaced it with an High Deductible HSA Healthcare plan.

I had no choice but to enroll in the HSA plan and we just had a baby so even though we're saving $1000 over the cost of the PPO, we're still getting killed with bills.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1428203


That's just insane. It's so maddening. And you're caring for your baby, not having the government care for him or her. So, you're doing right by your own child, paying your own way, and you as a family can barely afford it because you're having to care for everyone elses babies too. Sickening!
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all part of his neo-socialist plan

crash the private health insurance system so everyone has to go to (and fund) ObamaCare

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I figure if everyone paid $100.00 a month, it would bring the cost down. reasonable. That's all I could afford. Most people I know live from pay check...
did you ever see one hospital bills, almost humorous.
$30.00 for package of tissues, $10.00 lip balm, these are the little things, back in 96 $9.00 for one Tylenol, Its tripled since.
I guess they can make up any price they want, when they got you by the balls. Yea its time for a change.
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Enjoy you pussy faggots. I've already laid off all my full time employees and hired subcontractors to do the same jobs. If I'm doing it, so will others.
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My company's healthcare PPO went from approximately $3600 per year to $7400 per year.

The benefit changed completely.

They replaced it with an High Deductible HSA Healthcare plan.

I had no choice but to enroll in the HSA plan and we just had a baby so even though we're saving $1000 over the cost of the PPO, we're still getting killed with bills.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1428203


i want to ask you something and to other "parent's", why are you guy's having kid's in a time we know is comming to a gross conclusion, also why bring someone els into the health to weigh the burden more i mean why, why are you people having kid's, there enough people on the planet, there a reason why healthcare sucks these days. 1 POPULATION, 2 shitty foods cause diseases, 3 people go to the docter for the most stupidest thing's. " oh i have a cough i should go to the doctors" really??????


you people need to stop having children, they don't deserve to grow up in such a shity environment, keep your dick in your pants
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My company's healthcare PPO went from approximately $3600 per year to $7400 per year.

The benefit changed completely.

They replaced it with an High Deductible HSA Healthcare plan.

I had no choice but to enroll in the HSA plan and we just had a baby so even though we're saving $1000 over the cost of the PPO, we're still getting killed with bills.
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i want to ask you something and to other "parent's", why are you guy's having kid's in a time we know is comming to a gross conclusion, also why bring someone els into the health to weigh the burden more i mean why, why are you people having kid's, there enough people on the planet, there a reason why healthcare sucks these days. 1 POPULATION, 2 shitty foods cause diseases, 3 people go to the docter for the most stupidest thing's. " oh i have a cough i should go to the doctors" really??????


you people need to stop having children, they don't deserve to grow up in such a shity environment, keep your dick in your pants
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Rude much?
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i mean really everyone is having babies these day's and there are not enough old people dying, old people and babies weigh burden on healthcare also since they can't work and pay for the coverage.
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My company's healthcare PPO went from approximately $3600 per year to $7400 per year.

The benefit changed completely.

They replaced it with an High Deductible HSA Healthcare plan.

I had no choice but to enroll in the HSA plan and we just had a baby so even though we're saving $1000 over the cost of the PPO, we're still getting killed with bills.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1428203


i want to ask you something and to other "parent's", why are you guy's having kid's in a time we know is comming to a gross conclusion, also why bring someone els into the health to weigh the burden more i mean why, why are you people having kid's, there enough people on the planet, there a reason why healthcare sucks these days. 1 POPULATION, 2 shitty foods cause diseases, 3 people go to the docter for the most stupidest thing's. " oh i have a cough i should go to the doctors" really??????


you people need to stop having children, they don't deserve to grow up in such a shity environment, keep your dick in your pants
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Rude much?
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truth hurts?
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tell me how many do you have?
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Thread seems to have disappeared, anyway check this out

[link to www.politifact.com]

True or lies,I don't know.

[link to www.DO] NOT FUCKING REMOVE THIS/politics/medical/exemptions.asp

Sometimes being religitard can help

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Thread seems to have disappeared, anyway check this out

[link to www.politifact.com]

True or lies,I don't know.
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just put on the form your Muslim then, problem fixed lol
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Some of us had our kids before things went to hell in a handbasket. My ex lost her job last year and hasn't been able to find a new one, as the economy in our town sucks in good economic times, much less living in an obamanation.

I put my son on my insurance, just so he would have insurance. Meanwhile, I already pay a pretty hefty bit in child support. But he needed insurance, so I stepped up and did what needed to be done. But it's tapping me out and I'm tired of having to scrimp and save while others just flit by without a care in the world because they vote for the party of freebies!!!
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I have 2 kids and I'll have as many fucking children as I want as long as I can financially afford them.

I was only providing facts in the thread and just because I'm getting killed with "bills" indirectly because of Obamacare, I can still afford to raise my children and give them a good quality of life.

So, in other words, go fuck yourself.
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Put the blame were it really belongs. Its the asshole 1% employers like Walmart who are too greedy to give a shit about their employees.

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