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Obama care causing rate hikes for current insurance by 80%

 
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Why not just Op out and pay the small fine?
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I don't call 2.5% of my income a small fee
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THIS.
 Quoting: JennOfArc


is incorrect......
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Why not just Op out and pay the small fine?
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I don't call 2.5% of my income a small fee
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THIS.
 Quoting: JennOfArc


is incorrect......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43098922


LOL, it is not.

$695 or 2.5% which ever is greater
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Why not just Op out and pay the small fine?
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I don't call 2.5% of my income a small fee
 Quoting: Oyster


Individuals: From 2014 (reported in 2015), individuals who did not have insurance would owe $95, or 1 percent of income, whichever is greater.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43098922


2.5 in 2015 and $695 in 2016

[link to www.law.cornell.edu]


so....stfu


(and yes we all know the penalties have been delayed, but they are still coming)
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Why not just Op out and pay the small fine?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43098922


I don't call 2.5% of my income a small fee
 Quoting: Oyster


THIS.
 Quoting: JennOfArc


is incorrect......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43098922


No...it's not.
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07/10/2013 01:08 PM

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NO NO NO!!!

This can't be accurate...

Obama said our healthcare premiums would go DOWN by $2,500 per family... this was back in 2009. It must be true because he was re-elected.

Everyone... check your numbers again... spy on your fellow GLPer. Look for stress... divorce... financial problems. Failure to report your fellow GLPers could result in fines or imprisonment!

(and yes, for those that are dense, I am just kidding)
 Quoting: Carnac The Magnificent


And it is racist if you say otherwise.

Obama was re-elected by those who don't pay taxes and already don't pay for their own healthcare. They don't give a damn what the rest of us pay...
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AC 922 is either misinformed

or shilling for Obama....in which case :banehammer:
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NO NO NO!!!

This can't be accurate...

Obama said our healthcare premiums would go DOWN by $2,500 per family... this was back in 2009. It must be true because he was re-elected.

Everyone... check your numbers again... spy on your fellow GLPer. Look for stress... divorce... financial problems. Failure to report your fellow GLPers could result in fines or imprisonment!

(and yes, for those that are dense, I am just kidding)
 Quoting: Carnac The Magnificent



of course obama will blame congress, european financial crises, and tsunamis for the rate hikes.

If only congress(he really means Republicans but I wonder how the DEM Senate feels?) would go along with him 110% everything would be all right!
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Re: Obama care causing rate hikes for current insurance by 80%
NO NO NO!!!

This can't be accurate...

Obama said our healthcare premiums would go DOWN by $2,500 per family... this was back in 2009. It must be true because he was re-elected.

Everyone... check your numbers again... spy on your fellow GLPer. Look for stress... divorce... financial problems. Failure to report your fellow GLPers could result in fines or imprisonment!

(and yes, for those that are dense, I am just kidding)
 Quoting: Carnac The Magnificent


And it is racist if you say otherwise.

Obama was re-elected by those who don't pay taxes and already don't pay for their own healthcare. They don't give a damn what the rest of us pay...
 Quoting: davvi


Your employer pay's, or your wife/ husband pay's if your self-employed.
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07/10/2013 01:11 PM
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Why not just Op out and pay the small fine?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43098922


I don't call 2.5% of my income a small fee
 Quoting: Oyster


Individuals: From 2014 (reported in 2015), individuals who did not have insurance would owe $95, or 1 percent of income, whichever is greater.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43098922


2.5 in 2015 and $695 in 2016

[link to www.law.cornell.edu]


so....stfu


(and yes we all know the penalties have been delayed, but they are still coming)
 Quoting: Oyster


Families: For families the health insurance non-compliance penalty is capped at $285 per family, or 1% of income, whichever is greater.

[link to www.savingtoinvest.com]
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07/10/2013 01:13 PM
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I don't call 2.5% of my income a small fee
 Quoting: Oyster


Individuals: From 2014 (reported in 2015), individuals who did not have insurance would owe $95, or 1 percent of income, whichever is greater.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43098922


2.5 in 2015 and $695 in 2016

[link to www.law.cornell.edu]


so....stfu


(and yes we all know the penalties have been delayed, but they are still coming)
 Quoting: Oyster


Families: For families the health insurance non-compliance penalty is capped at $285 per family, or 1% of income, whichever is greater.

[link to www.savingtoinvest.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43098922


Oh my God. You are so stupid.
I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain.
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07/10/2013 01:15 PM
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Re: Obama care causing rate hikes for current insurance by 80%
NO NO NO!!!

This can't be accurate...

Obama said our healthcare premiums would go DOWN by $2,500 per family... this was back in 2009. It must be true because he was re-elected.

Everyone... check your numbers again... spy on your fellow GLPer. Look for stress... divorce... financial problems. Failure to report your fellow GLPers could result in fines or imprisonment!

(and yes, for those that are dense, I am just kidding)
 Quoting: Carnac The Magnificent


And it is racist if you say otherwise.

Obama was re-elected by those who don't pay taxes and already don't pay for their own healthcare. They don't give a damn what the rest of us pay...
 Quoting: davvi


Your employer pay's, or your wife/ husband pay's if your self-employed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43098922


also false

"b) Shared responsibility payment
(1) In general
If a taxpayer who is an applicable individual, or an applicable individual for whom the taxpayer is liable under paragraph (3), fails to meet the requirement of subsection (a) for 1 or more months, then, except as provided in subsection (e), there is hereby imposed on the taxpayer a penalty with respect to such failures in the amount determined under subsection (c).

(2) Inclusion with return
Any penalty imposed by this section with respect to any month shall be included with a taxpayer’s return under chapter 1 for the taxable year which includes such month. "

[link to www.law.cornell.edu]
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Re: Obama care causing rate hikes for current insurance by 80%
NO NO NO!!!

This can't be accurate...

Obama said our healthcare premiums would go DOWN by $2,500 per family... this was back in 2009. It must be true because he was re-elected.

Everyone... check your numbers again... spy on your fellow GLPer. Look for stress... divorce... financial problems. Failure to report your fellow GLPers could result in fines or imprisonment!

(and yes, for those that are dense, I am just kidding)
 Quoting: Carnac The Magnificent


And it is racist if you say otherwise.

Obama was re-elected by those who don't pay taxes and already don't pay for their own healthcare. They don't give a damn what the rest of us pay...
 Quoting: davvi


Your employer pay's, or your wife/ husband pay's if your self-employed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43098922


What the hell are you talking about? So because the employer pays it is ok to send the rates through the roof? Are you so fucking stupid that you don't understand the more it costs an employer to hire someone the less likely they are to hire?

Are you so fucking stupid that you don't realize that it will be more profitable for your employer to drop healthcare coverage and that this debacle is the biggest boom for evil corporations?

GOD how I hate how stupid you fucking leftists are.
A Jewish mother dreams that her son will grow up to be a doctor or, if retarded, a lawyer." --Jackie Mason

I never give RED karma, only GREEN for great posters. If you give me red or green please leave your name, I like to say thank you...

The complete lack of evidence is the surest sign that the conspiracy is working.

Krauthammer: "If Fences Don't Work, Why Is There One Around The White House?"
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Individuals: From 2014 (reported in 2015), individuals who did not have insurance would owe $95, or 1 percent of income, whichever is greater.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43098922


2.5 in 2015 and $695 in 2016

[link to www.law.cornell.edu]


so....stfu


(and yes we all know the penalties have been delayed, but they are still coming)
 Quoting: Oyster


Families: For families the health insurance non-compliance penalty is capped at $285 per family, or 1% of income, whichever is greater.

[link to www.savingtoinvest.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43098922


Oh my God. You are so stupid.
 Quoting: *Rhombus*


yep he is a dumb dumb

the god damn title in that article says 2014!!!!
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Re: Obama care causing rate hikes for current insurance by 80%
So, you're wanting to argue about "AFFORDABLE" penalties for not buying insurance? For the most part those penalties are going to be affected young single Americans. The group that traditionally chose to forgo insurance to save money while they were young, and healthy, and without a family. Won't be able to do that anymore, nope, uncle sam is gonna make sure nobody escapes.
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The system will collapse, doctors are getting squeezed too. Government imposed administration is where the big costs are.

Cash prices are now starting to pop up at hospitals and clinics at 50% off "insurance" prices. Private primary care co-ops are popping up. Pay your local general doctor either monthly subscription fee for unlimited visits or cash based cheaper medical care fees. This should be combined with a major medical policy for serious stuff (much cheaper rates)

The routine medical care billed through insurance is where we are getting killed. This should be competitive cash based w/ HSA's type accounts with major medical policy. Bush tried to get these off the ground and got pummeled by the media and the DEMS.

The overall problem? the patient(healthcare consumer) is not involved in the spending decision under govt/insurance healthcare. No competition, no negotiations, no shoppin around.
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Gibs muh da hulfcur!
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NO NO NO!!!

This can't be accurate...

Obama said our healthcare premiums would go DOWN by $2,500 per family... this was back in 2009. It must be true because he was re-elected.

Everyone... check your numbers again... spy on your fellow GLPer. Look for stress... divorce... financial problems. Failure to report your fellow GLPers could result in fines or imprisonment!

(and yes, for those that are dense, I am just kidding)
 Quoting: Carnac The Magnificent


And it is racist if you say otherwise.

Obama was re-elected by those who don't pay taxes and already don't pay for their own healthcare. They don't give a damn what the rest of us pay...
 Quoting: davvi


Your employer pay's, or your wife/ husband pay's if your self-employed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43098922


What the hell are you talking about? So because the employer pays it is ok to send the rates through the roof? Are you so fucking stupid that you don't understand the more it costs an employer to hire someone the less likely they are to hire?

Are you so fucking stupid that you don't realize that it will be more profitable for your employer to drop healthcare coverage and that this debacle is the biggest boom for evil corporations?

GOD how I hate how stupid you fucking leftists are.
 Quoting: davvi


Like Obama, these people have no business experience or ability to see things from the other side of the fence.
I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain.
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Re: Obama care causing rate hikes for current insurance by 80%
NO NO NO!!!

This can't be accurate...

Obama said our healthcare premiums would go DOWN by $2,500 per family... this was back in 2009. It must be true because he was re-elected.

Everyone... check your numbers again... spy on your fellow GLPer. Look for stress... divorce... financial problems. Failure to report your fellow GLPers could result in fines or imprisonment!

(and yes, for those that are dense, I am just kidding)
 Quoting: Carnac The Magnificent


And it is racist if you say otherwise.

Obama was re-elected by those who don't pay taxes and already don't pay for their own healthcare. They don't give a damn what the rest of us pay...
 Quoting: davvi


Your employer pay's, or your wife/ husband pay's if your self-employed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43098922


What the hell are you talking about? So because the employer pays it is ok to send the rates through the roof? Are you so fucking stupid that you don't understand the more it costs an employer to hire someone the less likely they are to hire?

Are you so fucking stupid that you don't realize that it will be more profitable for your employer to drop healthcare coverage and that this debacle is the biggest boom for evil corporations?

GOD how I hate how stupid you fucking leftists are.
 Quoting: davvi


Why don't you go back to Is-Ra-El?
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And it is racist if you say otherwise.

Obama was re-elected by those who don't pay taxes and already don't pay for their own healthcare. They don't give a damn what the rest of us pay...
 Quoting: davvi


Your employer pay's, or your wife/ husband pay's if your self-employed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43098922


What the hell are you talking about? So because the employer pays it is ok to send the rates through the roof? Are you so fucking stupid that you don't understand the more it costs an employer to hire someone the less likely they are to hire?

Are you so fucking stupid that you don't realize that it will be more profitable for your employer to drop healthcare coverage and that this debacle is the biggest boom for evil corporations?

GOD how I hate how stupid you fucking leftists are.
 Quoting: davvi


Why don't you go back to Is-Ra-El?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43098922


:hurr:


It's dah juice!


Dipshit.
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Why don't you go back to Is-Ra-El?
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dude you have no place to talk shit to anyone
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Re: Obama care causing rate hikes for current insurance by 80%
So, you're wanting to argue about "AFFORDABLE" penalties for not buying insurance? For the most part those penalties are going to be affected young single Americans. The group that traditionally chose to forgo insurance to save money while they were young, and healthy, and without a family. Won't be able to do that anymore, nope, uncle sam is gonna make sure nobody escapes.
 Quoting: JennOfArc


Personal Responsibility.
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Why don't you go back to Is-Ra-El?
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dude you have no place to talk shit to anyone
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lol - this place really scares me.
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So, you're wanting to argue about "AFFORDABLE" penalties for not buying insurance? For the most part those penalties are going to be affected young single Americans. The group that traditionally chose to forgo insurance to save money while they were young, and healthy, and without a family. Won't be able to do that anymore, nope, uncle sam is gonna make sure nobody escapes.
 Quoting: JennOfArc


Personal Responsibility.
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what in the fuck are you talking about?
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Re: Obama care causing rate hikes for current insurance by 80%
So, you're wanting to argue about "AFFORDABLE" penalties for not buying insurance? For the most part those penalties are going to be affected young single Americans. The group that traditionally chose to forgo insurance to save money while they were young, and healthy, and without a family. Won't be able to do that anymore, nope, uncle sam is gonna make sure nobody escapes.
 Quoting: JennOfArc


How far have we fallen when many are grateful that the govt. penalties for refusing to pay an illegal tax are "affordable"?
I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain.
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Why don't you go back to Is-Ra-El?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43098922


dude you have no place to talk shit to anyone
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lol - this place really scares me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43098922


yes the uninformed posts like the numbers you've been spewing are quite frightening.
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Obama was selected before he was elected and the election was rigged.

Those of you who think that elections have anything to do with this are ignorant of reality.
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So, you're wanting to argue about "AFFORDABLE" penalties for not buying insurance? For the most part those penalties are going to be affected young single Americans. The group that traditionally chose to forgo insurance to save money while they were young, and healthy, and without a family. Won't be able to do that anymore, nope, uncle sam is gonna make sure nobody escapes.
 Quoting: JennOfArc


How far have we fallen when many are grateful that the govt. penalties for refusing to pay an illegal tax are "affordable"?
 Quoting: *Rhombus*


clappa
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So, you're wanting to argue about "AFFORDABLE" penalties for not buying insurance? For the most part those penalties are going to be affected young single Americans. The group that traditionally chose to forgo insurance to save money while they were young, and healthy, and without a family. Won't be able to do that anymore, nope, uncle sam is gonna make sure nobody escapes.
 Quoting: JennOfArc


Personal Responsibility.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43098922


what in the fuck are you talking about?
 Quoting: Oyster


Purchase medical insurance, it's the right thing to do.
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And it is racist if you say otherwise.

Obama was re-elected by those who don't pay taxes and already don't pay for their own healthcare. They don't give a damn what the rest of us pay...
 Quoting: davvi


Your employer pay's, or your wife/ husband pay's if your self-employed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43098922


What the hell are you talking about? So because the employer pays it is ok to send the rates through the roof? Are you so fucking stupid that you don't understand the more it costs an employer to hire someone the less likely they are to hire?

Are you so fucking stupid that you don't realize that it will be more profitable for your employer to drop healthcare coverage and that this debacle is the biggest boom for evil corporations?

GOD how I hate how stupid you fucking leftists are.
 Quoting: davvi


Why don't you go back to Is-Ra-El?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43098922


:ppa 9: :ppa 25:
A Jewish mother dreams that her son will grow up to be a doctor or, if retarded, a lawyer." --Jackie Mason

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