Obama care causing rate hikes for current insurance by 80% | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18401048 United States 07/10/2013 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Individuals: From 2014 (reported in 2015), individuals who did not have insurance would owe $95, or 1 percent of income, whichever is greater. 2.5 in 2015 and $695 in 2016 [link to www.law.cornell.edu] so.... (and yes we all know the penalties have been delayed, but they are still coming) |
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davvi User ID: 3677166 United States 07/10/2013 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NO NO NO!!! Quoting: Carnac The Magnificent This can't be accurate... Obama said our healthcare premiums would go DOWN by $2,500 per family... this was back in 2009. It must be true because he was re-elected. Everyone... check your numbers again... spy on your fellow GLPer. Look for stress... divorce... financial problems. Failure to report your fellow GLPers could result in fines or imprisonment! (and yes, for those that are dense, I am just kidding) And it is racist if you say otherwise. Obama was re-elected by those who don't pay taxes and already don't pay for their own healthcare. They don't give a damn what the rest of us pay... |
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CommonCents User ID: 38285300 United States 07/10/2013 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NO NO NO!!! Quoting: Carnac The Magnificent This can't be accurate... Obama said our healthcare premiums would go DOWN by $2,500 per family... this was back in 2009. It must be true because he was re-elected. Everyone... check your numbers again... spy on your fellow GLPer. Look for stress... divorce... financial problems. Failure to report your fellow GLPers could result in fines or imprisonment! (and yes, for those that are dense, I am just kidding) of course obama will blame congress, european financial crises, and tsunamis for the rate hikes. If only congress(he really means Republicans but I wonder how the DEM Senate feels?) would go along with him 110% everything would be all right! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43098922 United States 07/10/2013 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NO NO NO!!! Quoting: Carnac The Magnificent This can't be accurate... Obama said our healthcare premiums would go DOWN by $2,500 per family... this was back in 2009. It must be true because he was re-elected. Everyone... check your numbers again... spy on your fellow GLPer. Look for stress... divorce... financial problems. Failure to report your fellow GLPers could result in fines or imprisonment! (and yes, for those that are dense, I am just kidding) And it is racist if you say otherwise. Obama was re-elected by those who don't pay taxes and already don't pay for their own healthcare. They don't give a damn what the rest of us pay... Your employer pay's, or your wife/ husband pay's if your self-employed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43098922 United States 07/10/2013 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Individuals: From 2014 (reported in 2015), individuals who did not have insurance would owe $95, or 1 percent of income, whichever is greater. 2.5 in 2015 and $695 in 2016 [link to www.law.cornell.edu] so.... (and yes we all know the penalties have been delayed, but they are still coming) Families: For families the health insurance non-compliance penalty is capped at $285 per family, or 1% of income, whichever is greater. [link to www.savingtoinvest.com] |
*Rhombus* User ID: 38804434 United States 07/10/2013 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Individuals: From 2014 (reported in 2015), individuals who did not have insurance would owe $95, or 1 percent of income, whichever is greater. 2.5 in 2015 and $695 in 2016 [link to www.law.cornell.edu] so.... (and yes we all know the penalties have been delayed, but they are still coming) Families: For families the health insurance non-compliance penalty is capped at $285 per family, or 1% of income, whichever is greater. [link to www.savingtoinvest.com] Oh my God. You are so stupid. I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18401048 United States 07/10/2013 01:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NO NO NO!!! Quoting: Carnac The Magnificent This can't be accurate... Obama said our healthcare premiums would go DOWN by $2,500 per family... this was back in 2009. It must be true because he was re-elected. Everyone... check your numbers again... spy on your fellow GLPer. Look for stress... divorce... financial problems. Failure to report your fellow GLPers could result in fines or imprisonment! (and yes, for those that are dense, I am just kidding) And it is racist if you say otherwise. Obama was re-elected by those who don't pay taxes and already don't pay for their own healthcare. They don't give a damn what the rest of us pay... Your employer pay's, or your wife/ husband pay's if your self-employed. also false "b) Shared responsibility payment (1) In general If a taxpayer who is an applicable individual, or an applicable individual for whom the taxpayer is liable under paragraph (3), fails to meet the requirement of subsection (a) for 1 or more months, then, except as provided in subsection (e), there is hereby imposed on the taxpayer a penalty with respect to such failures in the amount determined under subsection (c). (2) Inclusion with return Any penalty imposed by this section with respect to any month shall be included with a taxpayer’s return under chapter 1 for the taxable year which includes such month. " [link to www.law.cornell.edu] |
davvi User ID: 3677166 United States 07/10/2013 01:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NO NO NO!!! Quoting: Carnac The Magnificent This can't be accurate... Obama said our healthcare premiums would go DOWN by $2,500 per family... this was back in 2009. It must be true because he was re-elected. Everyone... check your numbers again... spy on your fellow GLPer. Look for stress... divorce... financial problems. Failure to report your fellow GLPers could result in fines or imprisonment! (and yes, for those that are dense, I am just kidding) And it is racist if you say otherwise. Obama was re-elected by those who don't pay taxes and already don't pay for their own healthcare. They don't give a damn what the rest of us pay... Your employer pay's, or your wife/ husband pay's if your self-employed. What the hell are you talking about? So because the employer pays it is ok to send the rates through the roof? Are you so fucking stupid that you don't understand the more it costs an employer to hire someone the less likely they are to hire? Are you so fucking stupid that you don't realize that it will be more profitable for your employer to drop healthcare coverage and that this debacle is the biggest boom for evil corporations? GOD how I hate how stupid you fucking leftists are. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18401048 United States 07/10/2013 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43098922 Individuals: From 2014 (reported in 2015), individuals who did not have insurance would owe $95, or 1 percent of income, whichever is greater. 2.5 in 2015 and $695 in 2016 [link to www.law.cornell.edu] so.... (and yes we all know the penalties have been delayed, but they are still coming) Families: For families the health insurance non-compliance penalty is capped at $285 per family, or 1% of income, whichever is greater. [link to www.savingtoinvest.com] Oh my God. You are so stupid. yep he is a dumb dumb the god damn title in that article says 2014!!!! |
JennOfArc (OP) User ID: 41445895 United States 07/10/2013 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, you're wanting to argue about "AFFORDABLE" penalties for not buying insurance? For the most part those penalties are going to be affected young single Americans. The group that traditionally chose to forgo insurance to save money while they were young, and healthy, and without a family. Won't be able to do that anymore, nope, uncle sam is gonna make sure nobody escapes. |
CommonCents User ID: 38285300 United States 07/10/2013 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The system will collapse, doctors are getting squeezed too. Government imposed administration is where the big costs are. Cash prices are now starting to pop up at hospitals and clinics at 50% off "insurance" prices. Private primary care co-ops are popping up. Pay your local general doctor either monthly subscription fee for unlimited visits or cash based cheaper medical care fees. This should be combined with a major medical policy for serious stuff (much cheaper rates) The routine medical care billed through insurance is where we are getting killed. This should be competitive cash based w/ HSA's type accounts with major medical policy. Bush tried to get these off the ground and got pummeled by the media and the DEMS. The overall problem? the patient(healthcare consumer) is not involved in the spending decision under govt/insurance healthcare. No competition, no negotiations, no shoppin around. |
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*Rhombus* User ID: 38804434 United States 07/10/2013 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NO NO NO!!! Quoting: Carnac The Magnificent This can't be accurate... Obama said our healthcare premiums would go DOWN by $2,500 per family... this was back in 2009. It must be true because he was re-elected. Everyone... check your numbers again... spy on your fellow GLPer. Look for stress... divorce... financial problems. Failure to report your fellow GLPers could result in fines or imprisonment! (and yes, for those that are dense, I am just kidding) And it is racist if you say otherwise. Obama was re-elected by those who don't pay taxes and already don't pay for their own healthcare. They don't give a damn what the rest of us pay... Your employer pay's, or your wife/ husband pay's if your self-employed. What the hell are you talking about? So because the employer pays it is ok to send the rates through the roof? Are you so fucking stupid that you don't understand the more it costs an employer to hire someone the less likely they are to hire? Are you so fucking stupid that you don't realize that it will be more profitable for your employer to drop healthcare coverage and that this debacle is the biggest boom for evil corporations? GOD how I hate how stupid you fucking leftists are. Like Obama, these people have no business experience or ability to see things from the other side of the fence. I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43098922 United States 07/10/2013 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NO NO NO!!! Quoting: Carnac The Magnificent This can't be accurate... Obama said our healthcare premiums would go DOWN by $2,500 per family... this was back in 2009. It must be true because he was re-elected. Everyone... check your numbers again... spy on your fellow GLPer. Look for stress... divorce... financial problems. Failure to report your fellow GLPers could result in fines or imprisonment! (and yes, for those that are dense, I am just kidding) And it is racist if you say otherwise. Obama was re-elected by those who don't pay taxes and already don't pay for their own healthcare. They don't give a damn what the rest of us pay... Your employer pay's, or your wife/ husband pay's if your self-employed. What the hell are you talking about? So because the employer pays it is ok to send the rates through the roof? Are you so fucking stupid that you don't understand the more it costs an employer to hire someone the less likely they are to hire? Are you so fucking stupid that you don't realize that it will be more profitable for your employer to drop healthcare coverage and that this debacle is the biggest boom for evil corporations? GOD how I hate how stupid you fucking leftists are. Why don't you go back to Is-Ra-El? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24519467 United States 07/10/2013 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: davvi And it is racist if you say otherwise. Obama was re-elected by those who don't pay taxes and already don't pay for their own healthcare. They don't give a damn what the rest of us pay... Your employer pay's, or your wife/ husband pay's if your self-employed. What the hell are you talking about? So because the employer pays it is ok to send the rates through the roof? Are you so fucking stupid that you don't understand the more it costs an employer to hire someone the less likely they are to hire? Are you so fucking stupid that you don't realize that it will be more profitable for your employer to drop healthcare coverage and that this debacle is the biggest boom for evil corporations? GOD how I hate how stupid you fucking leftists are. Why don't you go back to Is-Ra-El? :hurr: It's dah juice! Dipshit. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 43098922 United States 07/10/2013 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, you're wanting to argue about "AFFORDABLE" penalties for not buying insurance? For the most part those penalties are going to be affected young single Americans. The group that traditionally chose to forgo insurance to save money while they were young, and healthy, and without a family. Won't be able to do that anymore, nope, uncle sam is gonna make sure nobody escapes. Quoting: JennOfArc Personal Responsibility. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18401048 United States 07/10/2013 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, you're wanting to argue about "AFFORDABLE" penalties for not buying insurance? For the most part those penalties are going to be affected young single Americans. The group that traditionally chose to forgo insurance to save money while they were young, and healthy, and without a family. Won't be able to do that anymore, nope, uncle sam is gonna make sure nobody escapes. Quoting: JennOfArc Personal Responsibility. what in the fuck are you talking about? |
*Rhombus* User ID: 38804434 United States 07/10/2013 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, you're wanting to argue about "AFFORDABLE" penalties for not buying insurance? For the most part those penalties are going to be affected young single Americans. The group that traditionally chose to forgo insurance to save money while they were young, and healthy, and without a family. Won't be able to do that anymore, nope, uncle sam is gonna make sure nobody escapes. Quoting: JennOfArc How far have we fallen when many are grateful that the govt. penalties for refusing to pay an illegal tax are "affordable"? I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain. |
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JennOfArc (OP) User ID: 41445895 United States 07/10/2013 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, you're wanting to argue about "AFFORDABLE" penalties for not buying insurance? For the most part those penalties are going to be affected young single Americans. The group that traditionally chose to forgo insurance to save money while they were young, and healthy, and without a family. Won't be able to do that anymore, nope, uncle sam is gonna make sure nobody escapes. Quoting: JennOfArc How far have we fallen when many are grateful that the govt. penalties for refusing to pay an illegal tax are "affordable"? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43098922 United States 07/10/2013 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, you're wanting to argue about "AFFORDABLE" penalties for not buying insurance? For the most part those penalties are going to be affected young single Americans. The group that traditionally chose to forgo insurance to save money while they were young, and healthy, and without a family. Won't be able to do that anymore, nope, uncle sam is gonna make sure nobody escapes. Quoting: JennOfArc Personal Responsibility. what in the fuck are you talking about? Purchase medical insurance, it's the right thing to do. |
davvi User ID: 3677166 United States 07/10/2013 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: davvi And it is racist if you say otherwise. Obama was re-elected by those who don't pay taxes and already don't pay for their own healthcare. They don't give a damn what the rest of us pay... Your employer pay's, or your wife/ husband pay's if your self-employed. What the hell are you talking about? So because the employer pays it is ok to send the rates through the roof? Are you so fucking stupid that you don't understand the more it costs an employer to hire someone the less likely they are to hire? Are you so fucking stupid that you don't realize that it will be more profitable for your employer to drop healthcare coverage and that this debacle is the biggest boom for evil corporations? GOD how I hate how stupid you fucking leftists are. Why don't you go back to Is-Ra-El? :ppa 9: :ppa 25: |
Copperhead User ID: 21224228 United States 07/10/2013 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43098922 That's what we told you assholes to do 30 years ago, but you just had to stick around and change this country into a stinking 3rd world cesspool. You're not quit there yet, but it is just a matter of time if you are not stopped. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43098922 United States 07/10/2013 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43098922 yes the uninformed posts like the numbers you've been spewing are quite frightening. Fricken doctors don't even know what's going to happen with Obama care. Since when are you the expert? |