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NY Times - Manufactured Coup in Egypt - Sudden Improvements Suggest Campaign to Undermine Morsi & MB

 
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Sudden Improvements in Egypt Suggest a Campaign to Undermine Morsi

The streets seethe with protests and government ministers are on the run or in jail, but since the military ousted President Mohamed Morsi, life has somehow gotten better for many people across Egypt: Gas lines have disappeared, power cuts have stopped and the police have returned to the street.

The apparently miraculous end to the crippling energy shortages, and the re-emergence of the police, seems to show that the legions of personnel left in place after former President Hosni Mubarak was ousted in 2011 played a significant role — intentionally or not — in undermining the overall quality of life under the Islamist administration of Mr. Morsi.

And as the interim government struggles to unite a divided nation, the Muslim Brotherhood and Mr. Morsi’s supporters say the sudden turnaround proves that their opponents conspired to make Mr. Morsi fail. Not only did police officers seem to disappear, but the state agencies responsible for providing electricity and ensuring gas supplies failed so fundamentally that gas lines and rolling blackouts fed widespread anger and frustration.

“This was preparing for the coup,” said Naser el-Farash, who served as the spokesman for the Ministry of Supply and Internal Trade under Mr. Morsi. “Different circles in the state, from the storage facilities to the cars that transport petrol products to the gas stations, all participated in creating the crisis.”

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Morsi role at Syria rally seen as tipping point for Egypt army

Army concern about the way President Mohamed Morsi was governing Egypt reached tipping point when the head of state attended a rally packed with hardline fellow Islamists calling for holy war in Syria, military sources said.

At the June 15 rally, Sunni Muslim clerics used the word "infidels" to denounce both the Shi'ites fighting to protect Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and the non-Islamists that oppose Morsi at home.

Morsi himself called for foreign intervention in Syria against Assad, leading to a veiled rebuke from the army, which issued an apparently bland but sharp-edged statement the next day stressing that its only role was guarding Egypt's borders.

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From June 27th - Egypt’s Gas Shortage Fuels June 30 Protests -

By Wednesday afternoon, June 26, traffic in Cairo went from a gridlock of cars jammed around gas stations to eerily empty as the gas shortage discouraged drivers from going out. By Thursday, traffic jams were again at their worst, with people complaining of commutes taking hours. Worried about escalating tensions with the gas shortage hitting the country before protests planned for June 30, many offices have been letting their employees stay home in preceding days.

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Fuel and electricity crises were politicised: experts

The fuel and diesel crisis has ended and local quantities are sufficient to needs, Hefzy Sadek, the undersecretary of the supply directorate in the Giza district, told the DN Egypt on Sunday...

Fully functioning electricity networks and the subsiding of fuel shortages, which had prevailed weeks ahead of the ouster of former president Mohamed Morsi and disappeared immediately after, have raised many questions about whether the crisis was intentionally created.

[link to www.dailynewsegypt.com]
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US says "it's clear Egyptians have spoken"

Seven days after the Egyptian military deposed the democratically elected president Mohamed Morsi, the United States has still not decided whether to call his ouster a "coup."

But top US officials on Wednesday, while continuing to insist the United States was not taking sides in Egypt's political upheaval, sought to untangle the convoluted position taken by the Obama administration.

"It's clear that the Egyptian people have spoken," said State Department spokesperson Jen Psaki, when asked whether Washington still considered Morsi the legitimate president...

Challenged about the fact that, before his ouster, Egypt already had a democratically elected government, Psaki replied: "It wasn't a democratic rule. That's the whole point."

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ENGINEERED CHAOS!
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ENGINEERED CHAOS!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35402302


I think that's what they are saying...but why is the NY Times saying it now???
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Another manufactured crisis?

Less than a war zone: Media portrays post-Morsi Sinai as chaos, but on the ground it does not appear so

...Later in the evening, Mada Masr spent time with a group of local journalists in Arish. As Apaches started hovering around at their regular late evening hour, one of the journalists received news of attacks on three checkpoints south of Arish. Minutes later, Mada Masr went to see the attacked checkpoints, two of which are stationed on the ring road out of Arish, and found nothing but soldiers sipping their tea in the calm evening breeze of the peninsula. The news of the attacks had already made it to media outlets in Cairo.

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Another manufactured crisis?
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


the story fits with
this one

Thread: Egypt COUP - a HOAX
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secret documents found by the Egyptian Army
at the Muslim Brotherhood Offices show
large payments to Morsi and other
Gov Officials

Thread: Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood Dictator Morsi and Cronies funded by Qatar Prime Minister

the payments/funding came from the
Qatar Prime Minister al Thani
who just so happens to be a
CFR member.

Morsi was a CFR puppet.
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Manufactured Fuel Shortage/Manufactured Food Shortage

Egypt has less than two months imported wheat left, ex-minister say

Egypt has less than two months’ supply of imported wheat left in its stocks, ousted President Mohamed Morsi’s minister of supplies said, signalling that a shortage is more acute than previously revealed....

Egypt is the world’s largest importer of wheat, half of which it distributes to its 84 million people in the form of heavily subsidised bread. The ousted government closely guarded figures about its foreign grain stores even as a shortage of cash halted its imports....

[link to www.theglobeandmail.com]
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Why was Morsi installed after Mubarak? This is the part I dont understand. Wasnt there enough caos after Morsi had left? Why install someone for such a short period?
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So America pays to have Mubarik toppled then installs Morsi and pays to have him toppled as well?

There seems to be a lot of spin going on.
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This is pure bullshit!

No government in the world has the power to mobilize 33 + million muslims on the streets of egypt demanding Morsi be kicked out.

Egyptians did it for themselves. America just wants to take credit now.

USA does not enjoy as much influence in the muslim world as it pretends to. Muslims spit on the face of US so called leaders everyday and dont give a shit about Obama or his minions.

Obama and US gov desperately wanted Morsi but the egyptians said no way we dont want to be the next saudi arabia.

This is good of us as we want Egyptians to have a secular government and secular society. I want to visit the pyramids again.

And no, USA DOES NOT RUN OUR ISRAEL!

We dont give a shit about USA either. We're sick and tired of America trying to run the whole damn world and then blame the Jews for everything.

What are you 6 year old babies who cant run your own countries. Whose stopping ya? If you dont like the Jews in your government, kick them out. But dont go around pretending like its all our fault. You're the one screwing the world not us. Its your Obama who forced Morsi down everyone's throats not us. We were shocked to see USA supporting islamists in Egypt cause we have to live with them side by side.

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This is pure bullshit!

No government in the world has the power to mobilize 33 + million muslims on the streets of egypt demanding Morsi be kicked out.

Egyptians did it for themselves. America just wants to take credit now.

USA does not enjoy as much influence in the muslim world as it pretends to. Muslims spit on the face of US so called leaders everyday and dont give a shit about Obama or his minions.

Obama and US gov desperately wanted Morsi but the egyptians said no way we dont want to be the next saudi arabia.

This is good of us as we want Egyptians to have a secular government and secular society. I want to visit the pyramids again.

And no, USA DOES NOT RUN OUR ISRAEL!

We dont give a shit about USA either. We're sick and tired of America trying to run the whole damn world and then blame the Jews for everything.

What are you 6 year old babies who cant run your own countries. Whose stopping ya? If you dont like the Jews in your government, kick them out. But dont go around pretending like its all our fault. You're the one screwing the world not us. Its your Obama who forced Morsi down everyone's throats not us. We were shocked to see USA supporting islamists in Egypt cause we have to live with them side by side.

yoda
 Quoting: JosephStar


Seems like Egyptians Agree With You -

Is Egypt's Fuel Crisis Over - Short Answer - NO

...First of all, there have in fact been power cuts and long queues for gas since Morsi’s ouster. I experienced a power cut myself yesterday and I’m lucky enough to live in the quite pleasant island of Zamalek. Journalists who travelled to the Upper Egypt city of Beni Seuf in recent days also witnessed extended queues for gas at petrol stations there

....Did anyone consider the fact that as millions of Egyptians took to the streets, very few people were actually at home or at work using electricity or filling up their cars? It is rational to expect that with business pretty much at a standstill on the anniversary of Mohammed Morsi’s presidency, the demand on domestic energy was actually quite low, meaning we were in a comfortable position for the days leading up and after his ouster.

Electricity-generating power stations are by and large run with natural gas, and with demand much lower for that week, it’s likely the capacity would not have been overcome as it has in the past....

[link to rebeleconomy.com]
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The billionaire businessman quoted in NYTimes article is Coptic Christian...

Here is the response from MB supporters - [link to twitter.com]
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An Egyptian Response to the NY Times -

...As for the Police they are now on the streets of Egypt doing a stellar job providing security and calm as seen in daily reports of violence, clashes, looting, disturbances and the unprecedented amount of firearms flooding the country. Only a few days ago in Alexandria a few teens were thrown off a two-storey height then beaten to death by Pro-Morsi protesters wielding Al-Qaeda Flags. Be that as it may, Egyptians have never felt as safe as they do today, after Morsi’s ouster, which could only mean that The Police were not doing their job before he was deposed yet they are now, versus, let’s say, that they weren’t doing their job before he was deposed and they still aren’t...


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Difference between Salafis and Muslim Brotherhood:

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A Cairo Conspiracy

Although they pretend to be neutral, the powerful Egyptian Army played a role in planning the ouster of President Morsi.

On June 30 millions of Egyptians protested against their president, Mohamed Morsi, in the largest demonstrations the country has ever seen. Three days later Egypt’s top general removed Morsi from office, saying the scale of the protests left him no choice.

But some leaders behind these landmark protests say they were in regular contact with the Army, via intermediaries, as they planned the demonstrations—and that it was clear their movement had the Army’s support.

In the days and weeks before the protests, Waleed al-Masry, a central organizer, was in regular contact with a group of retired military officers. These retired officers, Masry says, promised to protect the protesters who turned out on June 30. They said they were reaching out on behalf of the Army’s current commanders. “We didn’t ask them for help. They just offered it,” Masry says. “And we welcomed that.”

Masry was a key figure in Tamarod, or “Rebel,” the youth-led group whose campaign to collect signatures against Morsi snowballed into the protests that sparked his ouster...

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A bit of confusion as regards to syria and iran.
Iran supports syria
Morsi wanted syria attacked
Morsi was starting a muslim secterian war between suni and shia
But after morsi
Syria praised iran and hezbollah
Syria praised egypsian army and coup
Iran condemned the coup

Very contradicting





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