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Zimmerman Trial 7/11/13 Day 22

 
Dijact

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One thing is for sure. Whatever the verdict is. O'mara has restored my faith in lawyers somewhat. This man was very professional, no lashing out handled witnesses from both sides very respectfully and passionately. He is a true professional in my mind and I am a new fan.

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Zimmerman chewing gum it was blue!!!! siren2siren2siren2
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Don't understand the aggravated assault charge from 2nd degree murder or manslaughter. That means the State has not made its burden.
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Will the jury hear all charges they can consider? Or guilty, not guilty of manslaughter.
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Will the jury hear all charges they can consider? Or guilty, not guilty of manslaughter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43158829


When they get their instructions after the closing arguments they will be given the charges that they can consider.
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Agreed. I'm not too familiar with the US "justice" system- when can we expect a verdict?
 Quoting: FOTN


Um ... I put all that data in the OP. Don't really feel like retyping it, sorry.
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


we answered it. <3
 Quoting: Only Me



Thanks to you , the OP and Voltaic for your perspectives. I appreciate it. Personally I think he will walk- this explains the Judge's behaviour- she is acting because she knows that it is a clear cut case, expect a book sooner or later...
 Quoting: FOTN


ayep
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Will the jury hear all charges they can consider? Or guilty, not guilty of manslaughter.
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They will be instructed to consider all possible charges
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When the jury reaches a verdict they are still in the jury room. The bailiff that is in the room tells the judge. Then it is up to the judge when the jury is called out. Remember there is a bailiff in or just out side the jury room.

If it is going to be not guilty the judge will not call the jury back into the court room until Monday.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43111611


Right, AC.

But my point is that the bailiff only knows that a verdict has been reached- not what the actual verdict is.

So how can the courts control the timing of an unfavorable verdict?

Does anyone understand what I'm getting at?

tounge
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The thing that gets up my nose is the blacks already determining THEIR outcome. Who the fuck do they think they are holding your country to ransom.
I watch programmes over here like the FIRST 48 HOURS, and all I see is these cocky gangsters running around as they wish, but when they are caught they cry in custody like faggoty bitches. They have no loyalty, they immediately grass each other up.....They are the fucking pussies.
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Will the jury hear all charges they can consider? Or guilty, not guilty of manslaughter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43158829


yes they will be given specific instructions including what charges they must rule on, the upcoming hearing (next few minutes) will finalize the charges presented to the jury
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Will the jury hear all charges they can consider? Or guilty, not guilty of manslaughter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43158829


When they get their instructions after the closing arguments they will be given the charges that they can consider.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43111611


hf
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LOL, she has on a headband today! Oh my..looks like a little overgrown girl!
"The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing" Socrates
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One thing is for sure. Whatever the verdict is. O'mara has restored my faith in lawyers somewhat. This man was very professional, no lashing out handled witnesses from both sides very respectfully and passionately. He is a true professional in my mind and I am a new fan.
 Quoting: Dijact



He comes across as a very genuine and likable person, which is polar opposite of how most lawyers come across.
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The unfavorable verdict is a not-guilty verdict.

In this case, they want people at home by their TV's for the weekend viewing.

If they riot, Friday afternoon is the BEST time to release the not-guilty verdict.

The city looses money during riots. Keeping it over the weekend will reduce that loss by A LOT.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


Hi, Voltaic.

I agree with this.

But I've always wondered.....

Does anyone know what the jury's verdict is before they actually enter the courtroom and the judge reads it?
 Quoting: Miggy


As far as I know, only the jury knows. Sometimes the judge is handed the verdict before the jury foreman reads it off, but that's pretty much moments before it's read.
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


The judge can over turn a guilty verdict, but not a not-guilty.

If she had orders to ensure a not-guilty verdict, her behavior begins to make some sense.

Who knows.....speculation at this point in time.
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When the jury reaches a verdict they are still in the jury room. The bailiff that is in the room tells the judge. Then it is up to the judge when the jury is called out. Remember there is a bailiff in or just out side the jury room.

If it is going to be not guilty the judge will not call the jury back into the court room until Monday.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43111611


Right, AC.

But my point is that the bailiff only knows that a verdict has been reached- not what the actual verdict is.

So how can the courts control the timing of an unfavorable verdict?

Does anyone understand what I'm getting at?

tounge
 Quoting: Miggy


As I said before the bailiff that is with the jury knows. I've even seen the bailiff that is handing the slip to the judge take a peek.
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Where is Omara?
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Where is Omara?
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


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Preparing for the closing
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Top of the morning from sunny Florida. Sir Phydeau, did you do this on purpose? I actually have to call you "Sir" all the time? lol ;)
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Mornin' fellow Floridian. It IS extremely sunny this morning. Wonderful.
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burn one. 30 min
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Has Rebuttal been completed ?
Missed the opening
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more delays she will try to do this all day
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The thing that gets up my nose is the blacks already determining THEIR outcome. Who the fuck do they think they are holding your country to ransom.
I watch programmes over here like the FIRST 48 HOURS, and all I see is these cocky gangsters running around as they wish, but when they are caught they cry in custody like faggoty bitches. They have no loyalty, they immediately grass each other up.....They are the fucking pussies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43029416


clappa
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I know someone that got a aggravated assualt in FL. He got zero days in jail.
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Closing argument at 1, eh? Meybe I can squeeze in a catnap before that. I LOVE closing arguments, except, you know this one is a different scenario.
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Considering whether or not lesser charges and be brought. Jeez, I hope not.

If I were George I'd be freaking out.
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As I said before the bailiff that is with the jury knows. I've even seen the bailiff that is handing the slip to the judge take a peek.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43111611


Aggggghhhhhhhh!

I don't think I'm explaining myself very well.

I'll try once more then perhaps go back to bed and start my day over....

Several posters have suggested that if the verdict is guilty it might be postponed until Monday in hopes of quelling any riots.

My argument is that this is impossible since nobody knows that the jury might find guilt before they actually enter the courtroom to proclaim it.

By then they can't postpone a verdict. It's out of the court's control. The jury has already been marched into the courtroom.

Anybody?

anybody?

(crickets)

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Considering whether or not lesser charges and be brought. Jeez, I hope not.

If I were George I'd be freaking out.
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It's a pretty common practice. I think it's wrong, but it happens all of the time.
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Good morning...
Tape isn't working in the kids so well today. I'll have to go for rope this afternoon.
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I know someone that got a aggravated assualt in FL. He got zero days in jail.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36206518


Did it involve discharging a firearm?

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