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Serious Discussion: Whether you believe in aliens/ufos or not, they exist...

 
Moon
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Serious Discussion: Whether you believe in aliens/ufos or not, they exist...
So where these aliens originate from on their planet?

Did they evolve from apes?

They must have been created. Logic follows we must also be created.

This is one of most important threads ever.

(I think).
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I think all UFO's are Classified Human Tech.

Our reality is not what we are told.
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I think all UFO's are Classified Human Tech.

Our reality is not what we are told.
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Does 'our' reality told us that UFO is real? they actually say that UFO is not real, so thats not 'our' reality
No, this is Patrick!
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Please keep to the point of the thread.
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Well, we DON'T KNOW for sure either way. That's the problem.
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Well, we DON'T KNOW for sure either way. That's the problem.
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There are two types of abductions, spiritual and physical.
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Re: Serious Discussion: Whether you believe in aliens/ufos or not, they exist...
You are correct....they exist.

E.T. created our bodies out of DNA that works on this particular planet. E.T. were here before this civilization and will be here after.

Our totally individually created souls/spirit/identity was created by higher beings for a miriad of reasons/purposes and placed into this human container to experience life..the good, bad, and the ugly.

Hollywood has it backwards on E.T.

There are bazzillions of planets with life...in containers/bodies that fit the planets environment.

There are more than bazzillions of places where no body is necessary.

There is a hierarchy of awareness that souls earn by being placed or by choice.

Earth is a vieled or mind wiped planet to validate the individual souls tests. Most existances on the way up the hierarchy do not mind wipe and the soul is allowed to remember.

We Earth humans think we are at the top of the totem pole with high intellect....hardly....most folk think we are the only sentient ones in this vast universe...LOL!
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Re: Serious Discussion: Whether you believe in aliens/ufos or not, they exist...
Would i be correct in assuming aliens worship God if they are created?
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there are many different ans to this question , but most are based in or near the hollow earth, it seems the smartest which are reptilian from draco,have either shared their technology or lost it do to negligence on their part . but its about 18 percent visitors from other star systems 88 percent are based here on or in earth,just my opinion .
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You made a statement, this is not a discussion.....
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Would i be correct in assuming aliens worship God if they are created?
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Most likely they have a different concept of God than we do.
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Would i be correct in assuming aliens worship God if they are created?
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Most likely they have a different concept of God than we do.
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Or the same.
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They are indeed Aliens as in they do not come from Here

But they have No Planet of Their Own as they were booted out of Heaven for Rebellion

They do exist They are Evil Angels
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I was not a believer until I saw something I really could not explain (except that it looked a like a giant flying static amoeba lol), and even if I could, I know it wouldn't really be accepted or just dismissed but I for one know they exist now. Also I couldn't say if it was of alien origin but it certainly was a UFO.
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I was not a believer until I saw something I really could not explain (except that it looked a like a giant flying static amoeba lol), and even if I could, I know it wouldn't really be accepted or just dismissed but I for one know they exist now. Also I couldn't say if it was of alien origin but it certainly was a UFO.
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Also would have dismissed it myself as eyes playing tricks at time if it were not for my mates GF looking at it also. I regret not taking a video of it but was too awestruck to do anything.
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You are correct....they exist.

E.T. created our bodies out of DNA that works on this particular planet. E.T. were here before this civilization and will be here after.

Our totally individually created souls/spirit/identity was created by higher beings for a miriad of reasons/purposes and placed into this human container to experience life..the good, bad, and the ugly.

Hollywood has it backwards on E.T.

There are bazzillions of planets with life...in containers/bodies that fit the planets environment.

There are more than bazzillions of places where no body is necessary.

There is a hierarchy of awareness that souls earn by being placed or by choice.

Earth is a vieled or mind wiped planet to validate the individual souls tests. Most existances on the way up the hierarchy do not mind wipe and the soul is allowed to remember.

We Earth humans think we are at the top of the totem pole with high intellect....hardly....most folk think we are the only sentient ones in this vast universe...LOL!
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Very interesting indeed, and ahh, also somewhat depressing?
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Would i be correct in assuming aliens worship God if they are created?
 Quoting: moon 14818903


Yes, you would be correct. See here:

Hebrews 1:1-3

Amplified Bible (AMP)

1 In many separate revelations [[a]each of which set forth a portion of the Truth] and in different ways God spoke of old to [our] forefathers in and by the prophets,

2 [But] in the last of these days He has spoken to us in [the person of a] Son, Whom He appointed Heir and lawful Owner of all things, also by and through Whom He created the worlds and the reaches of space and the ages of time [He made, produced, built, operated, and arranged them in order].

3 He is the sole expression of the glory of God [the Light-being, the [c]out-raying or radiance of the divine], and He is the perfect imprint and very image of [God’s] nature, upholding and maintaining and guiding and propelling the universe by His mighty word of power. When He had by offering Himself accomplished our cleansing of sins and riddance of guilt, He sat down at the right hand of the divine Majesty on high,


--

May God be glorified forever by all of Creation. Amen!

Now see:



[link to www.youtube.com]
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Re: Serious Discussion: Whether you believe in aliens/ufos or not, they exist...
These are the beney ha-elohin



Mike Heiser is a scholar in the fields of biblical studies and the ancient Near East.

Snippet from his website:

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Mike's main research interests are Israelite religion (especially Israel’s divine council), biblical theology, ancient Near Eastern religion, biblical & ancient Semitic languages, and ancient Jewish binitarian monotheism. He maintains three blogs: The Naked Bible (biblical studies), PaleoBabble (weird beliefs about antiquity), and UFO Religions (how belief in ETs intersects with religion). He teaches ancient languages online at MEMRA. For more information, see his FAQ and CV.

It shouldn’t be surprising that since God can be referred to as elohim and ha-elohim the Hebrew Old Testament attaches the phrase “the sons of” to both forms of God’s name. At times the Hebrew text refers to the sons of God as beney elohim
and at other times as beney ha-elohim . There is no difference in meaning. In the same manner, the Hebrew text occasionally reads beney elim —with the meaning “sons of God” (though plural in shape, elim refers to the singular God in that phrase, just like elohim does).
3 One verse (see Psalm 82:6 below) uses the phrase
beney elyon (“sons of the Most High”),
since elyon is yet another name for God.
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These are the beney ha-elohin



Mike Heiser is a scholar in the fields of biblical studies and the ancient Near East.

Snippet from his website:

[liveleak] [link to www.thedivinecouncil.com]
[/liveleak]
Mike's main research interests are Israelite religion (especially Israel’s divine council), biblical theology, ancient Near Eastern religion, biblical & ancient Semitic languages, and ancient Jewish binitarian monotheism. He maintains three blogs: The Naked Bible (biblical studies), PaleoBabble (weird beliefs about antiquity), and UFO Religions (how belief in ETs intersects with religion). He teaches ancient languages online at MEMRA. For more information, see his FAQ and CV.

It shouldn’t be surprising that since God can be referred to as elohim and ha-elohim the Hebrew Old Testament attaches the phrase “the sons of” to both forms of God’s name. At times the Hebrew text refers to the sons of God as beney elohim
and at other times as beney ha-elohim . There is no difference in meaning. In the same manner, the Hebrew text occasionally reads beney elim —with the meaning “sons of God” (though plural in shape, elim refers to the singular God in that phrase, just like elohim does).
3 One verse (see Psalm 82:6 below) uses the phrase
beney elyon (“sons of the Most High”),
since elyon is yet another name for God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39830991



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Re: Serious Discussion: Whether you believe in aliens/ufos or not, they exist...
I believe that aliens have to exist..it seems that life grabs a hold wherever it possibly can, and complexity pushes evolution to create higher and higher complex forms. Thinking that we are the only sentient beings in the universe is incredibly arrogant.

Do they believe in God? Maybe those still in the dark ages such as we are do. I think that the concept of creator utterly changes with evolution of intelligence. Fallen angels?..no.

Have they visited us? If I was in this part of the galaxy buzzin round in a big old spaceship planet Earth would be way tempting. Kind of like how we in the west like to look at the Amazon tribes on the TV or whatever. I would visit us!
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Would i be correct in assuming aliens worship God if they are created?
 Quoting: moon 14818903


Yes, you would be correct. See here:

Hebrews 1:1-3

Amplified Bible (AMP)

1 In many separate revelations [[a]each of which set forth a portion of the Truth] and in different ways God spoke of old to [our] forefathers in and by the prophets,

2 [But] in the last of these days He has spoken to us in [the person of a] Son, Whom He appointed Heir and lawful Owner of all things, also by and through Whom He created the worlds and the reaches of space and the ages of time [He made, produced, built, operated, and arranged them in order].

3 He is the sole expression of the glory of God [the Light-being, the [c]out-raying or radiance of the divine], and He is the perfect imprint and very image of [God’s] nature, upholding and maintaining and guiding and propelling the universe by His mighty word of power. When He had by offering Himself accomplished our cleansing of sins and riddance of guilt, He sat down at the right hand of the divine Majesty on high,


--

May God be glorified forever by all of Creation. Amen!

Now see:



[link to www.youtube.com]
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And this to blow your mind:



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Re: Serious Discussion: Whether you believe in aliens/ufos or not, they exist...
Surely it would have to be the same God.

Having different Gods wont be logical - they wont be true Gods as God has control over all things.
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 Quoting: moon 14818903


They do believe in a Creator. But even they don't have all the details. They are just as baffled as to how life began as we are. But they realize there is a source and that we (all living beings) are all striving to return to it.

ETs are aware of interdimensions and that there are beings on higher dimensions than themselves that are probably closer to the truth of creation than any of us are. They believe that our goals are to evolve to ever higher and higher dimensional frequencies, until we are able to merge with the Source of Creation.

They are alot more spiritual than most people know.
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