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Will Comet ISON cause the Plague to return?

 
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Will Comet ISON cause the Plague to return?
Is there a trend here?

Comet Negra in 1347.
The great Comet of 1680.
Comet ISON coming in Dec. 2013
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Each is seperated by 333 years. Coincidence?

"So, what was the Black Death? One intriguing possibility, according to Professor Mike Baillie’s book, New Light on the Black Death: The Cosmic Connection, is a comet shower."

And what about that "double dusting" we're due to receive as it passes by?

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*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Some say the world will end in fire, some say in ice.
From what I’ve tasted of desire, I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice, I think I know enough of hate to say that for destruction ice is also great and would suffice.


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Some say the world will end in fire, some say in ice.
From what I’ve tasted of desire, I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice, I think I know enough of hate to say that for destruction ice is also great and would suffice.


*{f/k/a H2A}
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Hmmm very interesting OP. 5*
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Re: Will Comet ISON cause the Plague to return?
Is there a trend here?

Comet Negra in 1347.
The great Comet of 1680.
Comet ISON coming in Dec. 2013
.

Each is seperated by 333 years. Coincidence?

"So, what was the Black Death? One intriguing possibility, according to Professor Mike Baillie’s book, New Light on the Black Death: The Cosmic Connection, is a comet shower."

And what about that "double dusting" we're due to receive as it passes by?

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 Quoting: Halo2Alexis™


333 x 2 = .............hell_boy
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Re: Will Comet ISON cause the Plague to return?
Very well noticed OP. 5 Stars.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Wikipedia says the comet of 1680 was sungrazing.

Am I wrong or ISON will be sungrazing too?

I also found this in another Wikipedia page:

The Great Comet of 1680 was a sungrazer and while used by Newton to verify Kepler's equations on orbital motion, it was not a member of any larger groups. However, comet C/2012 S1 (ISON) has orbital elements similar to the Great Comet of 1680 and could be a second member of the group.
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Plagues also tend to come during low solar activity. With this odd solar cycle, who knows. Low solar activity appears to shrink Earths atmosphere. Also, magnetic field weakening, enabling more penetration of matter. Odds of a plague are high IMO, but maybe unrelated to the cosmos.
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Re: Will Comet ISON cause the Plague to return?
in 1014 AD a swarm of cometary debris struck the Americas

it is thought to have ended the Aztec empire

it caused a tsunami in England
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Let's hope it's the black death, eh???
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in 1014 AD a swarm of cometary debris struck the Americas

it is thought to have ended the Aztec empire

it caused a tsunami in England
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[link to www.freerepublic.com]

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1014 + 333 = 1347

ahhh

There was also a comet in 1014

[link to neo.jpl.nasa.gov]

ahhh
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Is there a trend here?

Comet Negra in 1347.
The great Comet of 1680.
Comet ISON coming in Dec. 2013
.

Each is seperated by 333 years. Coincidence?

"So, what was the Black Death? One intriguing possibility, according to Professor Mike Baillie’s book, New Light on the Black Death: The Cosmic Connection, is a comet shower."

And what about that "double dusting" we're due to receive as it passes by?

hiding
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best have your Immunities in order

bring it I say bring it on
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*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Some say the world will end in fire, some say in ice.
From what I’ve tasted of desire, I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice, I think I know enough of hate to say that for destruction ice is also great and would suffice.


*{f/k/a H2A}
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one can only hope. this planets leaders (psychopathic assclowns) are off the leash and out of control. the lunatics have taken over the asylum. about time for a planetary reset.
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Re: Will Comet ISON cause the Plague to return?
Personally, I believe ISON is Comet Kirch (The Great Comet of 1680) making a return visit.
When it passed by, it was deemed responsible (at the time) for causing the plague, due to interstellar dust. And ISON also plans to double-dust us.

The last time Comet Kirch passed by, it's orbital period was 9,356 years.
NASA said ISON's orbit was 10,000 years.

Comet Kirch's perihelion was on November 14, 1680.
ISON's perihelion is dated November 28, 2013.

From a Space.com article:
"Great Comet of 1680 —This comet has an orbit strikingly similar to Comet ISON, begging the question of whether both objects are one and the same or at the very least are somehow related. Discovered on Nov. 14, 1680 by German astronomer Gottfried Kirsch, this was the first telescopic comet discovery in history. By Dec. 4, the comet was visible at magnitude +2 with a tail 15 degrees long. On Dec. 18 it arrived at perihelion — its closest approach to the sun — at a distance of 744,000 miles (1.2 million kilometers).

A report from Albany, N.Y. indicated that it could be glimpsed in daylight passing above the sun. In late December, it reappeared in the western evening sky, again of magnitude +2, and displaying a long tail that resembled a narrow beam of light that stretched for at least 70 degrees. The comet faded from naked-eye visibility by early February 1681."

[link to www.space.com]


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*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Some say the world will end in fire, some say in ice.
From what I’ve tasted of desire, I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice, I think I know enough of hate to say that for destruction ice is also great and would suffice.


*{f/k/a H2A}
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Re: Will Comet ISON cause the Plague to return?
No! Using sewage water to water your vegetables or migrants who don't bathe to harvest them will.
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Plagues are also caused by living in your own shit and not having sanitary conditions.

The plagues weren't caused by a comet, they were caused by flea-infested rats.
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shit. good find. interesting
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Re: Will Comet ISON cause the Plague to return?
In the book of enoch it talks of disease coming from space...turn your hearts to Jesus folks.





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zombie cometdust. interesting finds in these words combined
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Re: Will Comet ISON cause the Plague to return?
No. Yersinia pestis, the bacteria that caused "the black plague", has been on earth for thousands of years, it did not come from outer space. At least not with the comets you mention. But the 333 year interval is interesting. Could be the same object then.
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Much of the speculation about ISON and its likely consequence has been sadly misinformed -- indeed, complacent. Let me reiterate some basic facts here.

Fact: ISON is *not* a comet.

The astronomers think that ISON might once have been a moon of Neptune or Uranus, or perhaps it was locked in a stable point in Neptune's orbit, and was then perturbed somehow. But perturbed it was, and now it is on a thirty-six-hundred-year collision course with Earth.

Fact: ISON's impact will *not* be comparable to the Chicxulub impact which caused the extinction of the dinosaurs.

That impact was sufficient to cause mass death, and to alter -- drastically, and for all time -- the course of evolution of life on Earth. But it was caused by an impactor some ten kilometers across. ISON is *forty* times as large, and its mass is therefore some *sixty thousand times* as great.

Fact: ISON will *not* simply cause a mass extinction event, like Chicxulub.

It will be much worse than that.

The heat pulse will sterilize the land to a depth of fifty meters. Life might survive, but only by being buried deep in caves. We know no way, even in principle, by which a human community could ride out the impact. When ISON arrives, everybody will die.

Fact: ISON *cannot* be deflected with current technology.

It is possible we could turn aside small bodies -- a few kilometers across, typical of the population of near-Earth asteroids -- with such means as emplaced nuclear charges or thermonuclear rockets. The challenge of deflecting ISON is many orders of magnitude greater. Thought experiments on moving such bodes have been proposed, for example, using a series of gravitational assists -- not available in this case -- or using advanced technology such as nanotech von Neumann machines to dismantle and disperse the body. But such technologies are far beyond our current capabilities.
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Re: Will Comet ISON cause the Plague to return?
No. Yersinia pestis, the bacteria that caused "the black plague", has been on earth for thousands of years, it did not come from outer space. At least not with the comets you mention. But the 333 year interval is interesting. Could be the same object then.
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Yes but how did the disease get to the earth is the big question?
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No it will not.

Unshin this pit.
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Fact: ISON *cannot* be deflected with current technology.

It is possible we could turn aside small bodies -- a few kilometers across, typical of the population of near-Earth asteroids -- with such means as emplaced nuclear charges or thermonuclear rockets. The challenge of deflecting ISON is many orders of magnitude greater. Thought experiments on moving such bodes have been proposed, for example, using a series of gravitational assists -- not available in this case -- or using advanced technology such as nanotech von Neumann machines to dismantle and disperse the body. But such technologies are far beyond our current capabilities.
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If this was the case "not saying it is" is it possible that instead of trying to deflect a large body in space,
they maybe nuking underground or whatever causing major earthquakes to try and change the course of the earth instead, like the change in the axis on the big quake?
Just a thought.
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Re: Will Comet ISON cause the Plague to return?
Is there a trend here?

Comet Negra in 1347.
The great Comet of 1680.
Comet ISON coming in Dec. 2013
.

Each is seperated by 333 years. Coincidence?

"So, what was the Black Death? One intriguing possibility, according to Professor Mike Baillie’s book, New Light on the Black Death: The Cosmic Connection, is a comet shower."

And what about that "double dusting" we're due to receive as it passes by?

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please stop teasing my hopes and dreams
i hope it wipes out 100% of everything we know

Last Edited by Dogfood on 08/06/2013 07:23 PM
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Re: Will Comet ISON cause the Plague to return?
No. Yersinia pestis, the bacteria that caused "the black plague", has been on earth for thousands of years, it did not come from outer space. At least not with the comets you mention. But the 333 year interval is interesting. Could be the same object then.
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Maybe these comets spray us with so many bacteria our bodies aren't used to, that our immune systems are too busy fighting and don't have what it takes to suppress a hybernating virus like the plague.

Interesting post OP.
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Much of the speculation about ISON and its likely consequence has been sadly misinformed -- indeed, complacent. Let me reiterate some basic facts here.

Fact: ISON is *not* a comet.

The astronomers think that ISON might once have been a moon of Neptune or Uranus, or perhaps it was locked in a stable point in Neptune's orbit, and was then perturbed somehow. But perturbed it was, and now it is on a thirty-six-hundred-year collision course with Earth.

Fact: ISON's impact will *not* be comparable to the Chicxulub impact which caused the extinction of the dinosaurs.

That impact was sufficient to cause mass death, and to alter -- drastically, and for all time -- the course of evolution of life on Earth. But it was caused by an impactor some ten kilometers across. ISON is *forty* times as large, and its mass is therefore some *sixty thousand times* as great.

Fact: ISON will *not* simply cause a mass extinction event, like Chicxulub.

It will be much worse than that.

The heat pulse will sterilize the land to a depth of fifty meters. Life might survive, but only by being buried deep in caves. We know no way, even in principle, by which a human community could ride out the impact. When ISON arrives, everybody will die.

Fact: ISON *cannot* be deflected with current technology.

It is possible we could turn aside small bodies -- a few kilometers across, typical of the population of near-Earth asteroids -- with such means as emplaced nuclear charges or thermonuclear rockets. The challenge of deflecting ISON is many orders of magnitude greater. Thought experiments on moving such bodes have been proposed, for example, using a series of gravitational assists -- not available in this case -- or using advanced technology such as nanotech von Neumann machines to dismantle and disperse the body. But such technologies are far beyond our current capabilities.
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So how long is it until ISON hits earth? You said a 3600 year collision course, but that is from when?
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Oh hellz yeah. It's Zombie Time!

Thread: Zombie Apocalypse Date Revealed - Night of the Comet style!

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Halo,

This site is very interesting.

Comets and Contagion- Viruses, Bacteria and Diseases From Space.

[link to cosmology.net]

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