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What Are They Waiting For? Treasury Falsifying U.S. Liabilities To Remain Under The Debt Ceiling, But No Move To Raise It...

 
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So what are they waiting for? Jack "The Ripper" Lew, Treasury Secretary, says we can keep this charade up until Labor Day, but that begs the question, why?!?!?

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(CNSNews.com) - According to the Daily Treasury Statement for July 12, which the U.S. Treasury released this afternoon, the federal debt that is currently subject to a legal limit of $16,699,421,095,673.60 has stood at exactly $16,699,396,000,000.00 for 56 straight days.

That means that for 56 straight days the federal debt has remained approximately $25 million below the legal limit...


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Just an excuse to raid Government Pension funds and replace those investments with worthless Treasury Bonds?!?!?
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It would be a lot more fun for the sociopaths to carsh it just before winter.
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Dip in gold and silver, increasing stock market, Bernanke changes directions on stopping QE, Bond Yields and Interest Rates creeping up...

Whatever investments those Government Pension Funds used to have...they're gone. It's all Treasury Bonds now...
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The beast is hungry and needs to be fed. All those tasty pension funds are the next meal.
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56 straight days without new debt.. ohappy
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People do realize that's what they're doing here right? They understand that Jack "The Ripper" Lew is raiding Government Pensions to keep this fiasco up, right?

They realize their cashing in all of these Pension Fund Investments and replacing them with Treasury Bonds...Right?!?!?

Right?!?!?

Last Edited by Saddletramp on 07/16/2013 09:35 AM
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Good thing the MSM is all over this...telling Pension Holders that the Government is stealing their retirements even as we speak. Telling people the future of this country is being sold out, right now!!!

Oh, I forgot...all that coverage has been pushed out by Trayvon...
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Thanks for the PIN!

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All of these crazy things happening in the Markets, PM's falling off of the cliff even as Interest Rates are on the rise, Liquidity Crisis' even while they're printing money hand over fist, Bernanke changing gears on QE...

Now we find out that Treasury is cashing in Pension Fund investments to stay below the debt limit, then replacing those investments with T-Bills...

Are we watching the final looting before they allow the ship to sink?!?!?

I've been saying it since the beginning of the year, watch out for Late Summer/Fall 2013 (Q3/Q4). It's all boiling up and coming to a head then...

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Libor rigging
Fraudclosure
derivatives
federal reserve notes
a private family issuing all the currency
a private family buying all our bonds
a private family buying all our treasuries
a private family bailing out foreign banks
The six largest banks all being tied to the federal reserve, and getting money at 0% interest!
Thread: Bankers are now GODS!!!!
MF global
the cftc and the rigging of the silver and gold markets
plunge protection teams
the fed buying stocks
the government being the biggest spender in the economy while being bankrupt
HSBC laundering their money through the drug cartels
40 million on food stamps
over 70% of the stock exchange is high frequency trading
all the unemployment
the trade deficits
Cyprus
The Fed lent spent or borrowed over 16 trillion between 2008 and 2010, and who knows what that number is now.
Robbing the pensions
The theft of all the social security money

& now, get this, get this, this is really good, wait for it.

Now we don't even have to add up what the debt is!

That's right, we just spend money but don't even count it as debt, even though we aren't bringing in anymore, and we are still running deficits!

This gets better every day, I swear you can't make this stuff up!

Thread: Libor / Easter Bunny / Santa Claus / and Banks, all need your belief to exist.

We are traded cattle, branded with numbers, filed with finger prints tracked with tracking devices, recorded, spied upon, and put on lists, we are harvested for our labor, and slaughtered through the health care system to rape us of every last dime we have on our way out of this world, and even after death our dead body is picked at by the vultures and given over to those who enslaved us so that they can drink the last essence of what we left on this earth.

lolatu

This is all stuff we know about, what is lurking in the shadows that we haven't a clue about?



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People do realize that's what they're doing here right? They understand that Jack "The Ripper" Lew is raiding Government Pensions to keep this fiasco up, right?

They realize their cashing in all of these Pension Fund Investments and replacing them with Treasury Bonds...Right?!?!?

Right?!?!?
 Quoting: Saddletramp


ding, ding, ding, ding!!

We have a winner!

Winner, Winner, chicken dinner

Give the boy a prize.

Only this time, they're doing it hush, hush.
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Maybe this will explain a bit, and there must be just as many in the states not including wall street.

, google it

2,500 British bankers on at least 1million euros despite the financial crisis

2,436 UK bankers were paid at least £865,000 in 2011
my 2 cents

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Off topic here but related.

It's not not just the Treasury doing this. It's also catching on with private businesses too.
Instead of contributing to employees 401k they are printing up worthless stick certificates to give to them.

[link to www.zerohedge.com]
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Libor rigging
Fraudclosure
derivatives
federal reserve notes
a private family issuing all the currency
a private family buying all our bonds
a private family buying all our treasuries
a private family bailing out foreign banks
The six largest banks all being tied to the federal reserve, and getting money at 0% interest!
Thread: Bankers are now GODS!!!!
MF global
the cftc and the rigging of the silver and gold markets
plunge protection teams
the fed buying stocks
the government being the biggest spender in the economy while being bankrupt
HSBC laundering their money through the drug cartels
40 million on food stamps
over 70% of the stock exchange is high frequency trading
all the unemployment
the trade deficits
Cyprus
The Fed lent spent or borrowed over 16 trillion between 2008 and 2010, and who knows what that number is now.
Robbing the pensions
The theft of all the social security money

& now, get this, get this, this is really good, wait for it.

Now we don't even have to add up what the debt is!

That's right, we just spend money but don't even count it as debt, even though we aren't bringing in anymore, and we are still running deficits!

This gets better every day, I swear you can't make this stuff up!

Thread: Libor / Easter Bunny / Santa Claus / and Banks, all need your belief to exist.

We are traded cattle, branded with numbers, filed with finger prints tracked with tracking devices, recorded, spied upon, and put on lists, we are harvested for our labor, and slaughtered through the health care system to rape us of every last dime we have on our way out of this world, and even after death our dead body is picked at by the vultures and given over to those who enslaved us so that they can drink the last essence of what we left on this earth.

lolatu

This is all stuff we know about, what is lurking in the shadows that we haven't a clue about?


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Yes very wrong, The light of YHVH/God expose it in such a way as to make the general public non-apathetic, amen YAHshua/Jesus
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Don't worry...Banker Bonus' are UP UP AND AWAY!!!

[link to www.zerohedge.com]

Oh wait...they were in 2008/09 too...
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."
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Libor rigging
Fraudclosure
derivatives
federal reserve notes
a private family issuing all the currency
a private family buying all our bonds
a private family buying all our treasuries
a private family bailing out foreign banks
The six largest banks all being tied to the federal reserve, and getting money at 0% interest!
Thread: Bankers are now GODS!!!!
MF global
the cftc and the rigging of the silver and gold markets
plunge protection teams
the fed buying stocks
the government being the biggest spender in the economy while being bankrupt
HSBC laundering their money through the drug cartels
40 million on food stamps
over 70% of the stock exchange is high frequency trading
all the unemployment
the trade deficits
Cyprus
The Fed lent spent or borrowed over 16 trillion between 2008 and 2010, and who knows what that number is now.
Robbing the pensions
The theft of all the social security money

& now, get this, get this, this is really good, wait for it.

Now we don't even have to add up what the debt is!

That's right, we just spend money but don't even count it as debt, even though we aren't bringing in anymore, and we are still running deficits!

This gets better every day, I swear you can't make this stuff up!

Thread: Libor / Easter Bunny / Santa Claus / and Banks, all need your belief to exist.

We are traded cattle, branded with numbers, filed with finger prints tracked with tracking devices, recorded, spied upon, and put on lists, we are harvested for our labor, and slaughtered through the health care system to rape us of every last dime we have on our way out of this world, and even after death our dead body is picked at by the vultures and given over to those who enslaved us so that they can drink the last essence of what we left on this earth.

lolatu

This is all stuff we know about, what is lurking in the shadows that we haven't a clue about?


 Quoting: GodFrequency


"Nothing to see here...move along." ~ Ben Bernanke
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Markets going red again!

bump 5 stars!
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what was that other thread were we talked about sequestration, debt ceiling and a time frame?
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"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.
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Off topic here but related.

It's not not just the Treasury doing this. It's also catching on with private businesses too.
Instead of contributing to employees 401k they are printing up worthless stick certificates to give to them.

[link to www.zerohedge.com]
 Quoting: my 2 cents


GOOD Thing the money says in God We Trust, Because it truly has become a religion.

We worship now at the alters of banks, they are able to create wealth and power out of thin air, and for a while had the entire world convinced that it was worth something.

Banking is no longer sound, money is no longer mathematical, now it is nothing more than a religion, a belief system.

Like a grand wizard emerging out of the temple, or like a groundhog being pulled out of a hat, the superstitious turn on their magic boxes, and tune in to see what their master is going to do with interest rates, are they going to save us? Are they going to bail out the banks? are they going to create wealth? They can fund wars, steal money, and like those in an occult, most just hand it over with a blank stare, and a feeling of hopelessness.

SHHhhhhh!

The almighty Fed is about to speak, watch as his magic words roll off of his tongue and bless us with words of ultimate divinity!
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what was that other thread were we talked about sequestration, debt ceiling and a time frame?
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Got to keep it going for Summer Vacations...but after that, its Game On!
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The Govt. has offered up Distraction after Distraction every since the Debt Ceiling kicked in back in May! They've pushed a bullshit Immigration Bill that has NO CHANCE OF PASSING, but they keep pushing it...

Meanwhile...do they do a fucking thing about the debt ceiling? Nope!

If this hasn't been planned then I'm a monkey's uncle!

And this thread has NOTHING TO DO WITH DEMORAT or REPUBLICATE! They're both complicit in this theft and guilty as hell.

Govt Pensioners should be the ones rioting in the streets!!!

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The beast is hungry and needs to be fed. All those tasty pension funds are the next meal.
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I wonder what the reaction of the average person will be when their 401k is replaced with treasury notes or worse yet is drained of funds?chaos? Outrage? Or a time magazine cover of shared sacrifice and "the greater good". It will be interesting to say the least.

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yep I agree all planned and has been in the works for quite a long time. with everything happening right now in this country the shit that really matters flies under the radar of most.

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Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it."

Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.
"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency."
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The Govt. has offered up Distraction after Distraction every since the Debt Ceiling kicked in back in May! They've pushed a bullshit Immigration Bill that has NO CHANCE OF PASSING, but they keep pushing it...

Meanwhile...do they do a fucking thing about the debt ceiling? Nope!

If this hasn't been planned then I'm a monkey's uncle!

And this thread has NOTHING TO DO WITH DEMORAT or REPUBLICATE! They're both complicit in this theft and guilty as hell.

Govt Pensioners should be the ones rioting in the streets!!!
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Seems government workers are just about the only ones left that get a Pension. Maybe that is the play, take away the baby boomers 401K's and then the EBT cards from their counter parts. All over GMO food, that we also burn in our fuel tanks.

Not much longer now/
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People do realize that's what they're doing here right? They understand that Jack "The Ripper" Lew is raiding Government Pensions to keep this fiasco up, right?

They realize their cashing in all of these Pension Fund Investments and replacing them with Treasury Bonds...Right?!?!?

Right?!?!?
 Quoting: Saddletramp


When I quit my fed gubmint job, they gave me a piece of paper that said if I kept my money in the pension fund in 25 years I would get 60 bucks a month payout. I figured with inflation that would be less than my telephone bill, so I cashed the POS out and put the money on my mortgage.

I did a lot of stupid things back then, but that was not one of them.

All of my buddies who wanted to quit, but didn't because they were milking the government pension tit, are going to get totally shafted.

You are right, this is huge news bud.
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No wonder they wanted Treyvon Race Riots, they wanted martial law, but they wanted to be the good guys saving everyone!

Gerald Celente always said that when all else fails they take you to war, I just wasn't thinking civil war, I thought they didn't want civil war. I guess a little uprising that can be put down easily in order to declare martial law, would be perfect while they've completely stopped counting the debt.

So, the bigger question is now what?
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They Mayans were right, 2012 did mark the end of an age, and the death of an empire.
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No wonder they wanted Treyvon Race Riots, they wanted martial law, but they wanted to be the good guys saving everyone!

Gerald Celente always said that when all else fails they take you to war, I just wasn't thinking civil war, I thought they didn't want civil war. I guess a little uprising that can be put down easily in order to declare martial law, would be perfect while they've completely stopped counting the debt.

So, the bigger question is now what?
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^^^THIS^^^

As for Now What...right now, the Looting of Pensions is in full swing, once the looting is done, its...CARSH!!!
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