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is it possible abraham murdered sarah?

 
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is it possible abraham murdered sarah?
after she left him?

or perhaps she never left and he murdered her / paid for a hit anyway?

it is "said" or perhaps "written" in the talmud that he loved her so much and i believe was later buried with her, but he sure didn't act like a grieving spouse from what i've read and heard.

any thoughts?
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Re: is it possible abraham murdered sarah?
i mean, statistically women live longer than men and he lived on many years after her death. MANY.
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abraham was genetically modified by "God" to live longer.
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Re: is it possible abraham murdered sarah?
Who cares ?
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I can remotely view into the past and you are totally correct. I got other shit in the bible that didn't happen as it was written. Jesus was really arrested for getting into another bar fight. His 12 buddies where really a biker gang except they used camels and donkeys cause internal combustion engine wasn't around.. They would ride into town a hootin and a hollering. Jesus would beat the crap outa sum townie them heal him and everyone got a kick out of it. One time Jesus went gambleing at the Las Vagas nite at the church and lost big time. He turned all the tables over yelling this is bull shit. They usually went fishing and got drunk leading to Jesus walking on water instead of pissing off the side of the boat.

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I can remotely view into the past and you are totally correct. I got other shit in the bible that didn't happen as it was written. Jesus was really arrested for getting into another bar fight. His 12 buddies where really a biker gang except they used camels and donkeys cause internal combustion engine wasn't around.. They would ride into town a hootin and a hollering. Jesus would beat the crap outa sum townie them heal him and everyone got a kick out of it. One time Jesus went gambleing at the Las Vagas nite at the church and lost big time. He turned all the tables over yelling this is bull shit. They usually went fishing and got drunk leading to Jesus walking on water instead of pissing off the side of the boat.
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Re: is it possible abraham murdered sarah?
after she left him?

or perhaps she never left and he murdered her / paid for a hit anyway?

it is "said" or perhaps "written" in the talmud that he loved her so much and i believe was later buried with her, but he sure didn't act like a grieving spouse from what i've read and heard.

any thoughts?
 Quoting: m&m's


This whole family dynamic fascinates me. Hagar bearing Ishmael on Sarah's knees, and then Ishmael runs away and becomes "a wild ass of a man?" No doubt that there has been heavy tweaking done to the stories surrounding Abraham's nuclear family. She was impatient, I think is what is meant to be portrayed as her sin. Isaac's name means "my moms laughed her old ass off when she found out that she was pregnant." Sarah had been instructed to wait for a miracle pregnancy, and then laughed when she got it like "bah, no way!"

No religious attachment for me here. I just wonder a lot about it, too. Sort of thinking out loud.
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Re: is it possible abraham murdered sarah?
it was FUBAR, but seems some of what you said is incorrect, e.g., isaac's name means laughter only - that is my understanding.

what if isaac is the son of God? perhaps abraham was infertile? or maybe some Godly IVF type of pregnancy? with God anything is possible.

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Haha fucker can't read.

I repeat the fuckers can't read.

Must be bad_egg yo!
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Re: is it possible abraham murdered sarah?
i mean, statistically women live longer than men and he lived on many years after her death. MANY.
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Sarai laughed and ridiculed the angel of the Lord when informed she was going to have a child the following year. For thinking that there was something actually too difficult for the Lord, her life expectancy was reduced by 5 years. This is according to Rashi.
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Re: is it possible abraham murdered sarah?
it was FUBAR, but seems some of what you said is incorrect, e.g., isaac's name means laughter only - that is my understanding.

what if isaac is the son of God? perhaps abraham was infertile? or maybe some Godly IVF type of pregnancy? with God anything is possible.
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This is an interesting thing to posit, that IVF was involved. Yes, Isaac means "laughter," and I thought it was after his mother's laughter that Isaac was named. My son's name is Isaac. Another translation I have read is "he laughs."
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Re: is it possible abraham murdered sarah?
it was FUBAR, but seems some of what you said is incorrect, e.g., isaac's name means laughter only - that is my understanding.

what if isaac is the son of God? perhaps abraham was infertile? or maybe some Godly IVF type of pregnancy? with God anything is possible.
 Quoting: m&m's


Also, I think that Jesus did not mean "only child of God" when he said that he was such. I believe that he meant to show what was possible for all of us as children of God also: that perfection is possible in the condition of humanity.
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Re: is it possible abraham murdered sarah?
i mean, statistically women live longer than men and he lived on many years after her death. MANY.
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Sarai laughed and ridiculed the angel of the Lord when informed she was going to have a child the following year. For thinking that there was something actually too difficult for the Lord, her life expectancy was reduced by 5 years. This is according to Rashi.
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i've read the verses aboit how she laughed and the was scared, mind you this was a visit from and his entourage, that is my understanding.

anyway, her life being reduced is just someone's OPINION....that is what the talmud is and books, etc. OPINIONS .... assumptions, etc. not divine...not from God.

idk about any of you but if my soul mate and the love of my life died i wouldn't be hooking up with others. seems to me abraham had quite an ego on him. if you say sarah's life was shortened for being amused, where is abraham's punishment for arguing with God and being responsible with the incestuous Lott lineage? hmmmmmmm?????

men wrote the talmud....from their biased perspective. fuck all that. not saying it can't make interesting reading / studying, but it ain't exactly the WORD of GOD now is it?

perspective.

TRUTH
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Yur on my list too btw.

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Yur on my list too btw.

Ttys
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"on your list?"

well don't expect to find me shaking in my boots. i think you'll be doing lots of very fast talking.

promises. promises.
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Re: is it possible abraham murdered sarah?
i mean, statistically women live longer than men and he lived on many years after her death. MANY.
 Quoting: m&m's


Sarai laughed and ridiculed the angel of the Lord when informed she was going to have a child the following year. For thinking that there was something actually too difficult for the Lord, her life expectancy was reduced by 5 years. This is according to Rashi.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43508337


i've read the verses aboit how she laughed and the was scared, mind you this was a visit from and his entourage, that is my understanding.

anyway, her life being reduced is just someone's OPINION....that is what the talmud is and books, etc. OPINIONS .... assumptions, etc. not divine...not from God.

idk about any of you but if my soul mate and the love of my life died i wouldn't be hooking up with others. seems to me abraham had quite an ego on him. if you say sarah's life was shortened for being amused, where is abraham's punishment for arguing with God and being responsible with the incestuous Lott lineage? hmmmmmmm?????

men wrote the talmud....from their biased perspective. fuck all that. not saying it can't make interesting reading / studying, but it ain't exactly the WORD of GOD now is it?

perspective.

TRUTH
 Quoting: m&m's


From the perspective of this monogamous society and my monogamous relationships, it is hard for me to wrap my head around the need to bear a child being so strong that I would bid my husband to impregnate a slave in my household. Of course I can't imagine having a slave either. OT peeps were futzed. :-\
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