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-----Obama Wins Right to Indefinitly Detain ANYONE suspected of Terroism Without Due Process-----

 
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The Obama administration has won the latest battle in their fight to indefinitely detain US citizens and foreigners suspected of being affiliated with terrorists under the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012.

Congress granted the president the authority to arrest and hold individuals accused of terrorism without due process under the NDAA, but Mr. Obama said in an accompanying signing statement that he will not abuse these privileges to keep American citizens imprisoned indefinitely. These assurances, however, were not enough to keep a group of journalists and human rights activists from filing a federal lawsuit last year, which contested the constitutionality of Section 1021, the particular provision that provides for such broad power.

A federal judge sided with the plaintiffs originally by granting an injunction against Section 1021, prompting the Obama administration to request an appeal last year. On Wednesday this week, an appeals court in New York ruled in favor of the government and once again allowed the White House to legally indefinitely detain persons that fit in the category of enemy combatants or merely provide them with support.
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07/18/2013 12:05 AM
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why a one star? This is really happening.
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BURN that silly old constitution!

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07/18/2013 12:14 AM
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thank you for the 5 star
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Thank you Jorge Bush and the "Patriot Act". The reich wing are the biggest traitors the nation has ever seen.
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This is for the best. He is putting his foot down to terrorism. Those guys are no good. Good job Obama. I support ya!
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07/18/2013 12:25 AM
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the danger comes when they start redefining what a terrorist is.....

You might fall into one of those categories
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Being an American, this makes me nervous because a president with these powers could easily abuse them.

Obama promises not to abuse these powers but who knows whos coming down the road? The road is paved for a hitlet or stalin to come in and take total control and say all his opposition are terrorist.

It could happen....

It probably will happen....


Wake up America!!!!!
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07/18/2013 12:49 AM
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Russian Times = Propaganda, Wag the Dog...
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07/18/2013 12:52 AM

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the danger comes when they start redefining what a terrorist is.....

You might fall into one of those categories
 Quoting: Desert Man


Butch dyke nepalitano has defined terrorists; war veterans, rightwing extremists, constitutionalists,

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07/18/2013 01:01 AM
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even though it came from rt, does not mean it is not true.

just because Russia wants to point out all the issues with America does not make it any less valid.

Do you trust the msn in America to tell you these things? No all they want to do is race bait about TM and GZ
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and will obviously be abused. yoda
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Once the "gang bangers" and the "youths" of your favorite corp-media suggesters, are designated terrorists, many of you naysayers will deem this overlord Obama's finest implementation of your hero G.W. Bush's famed P.A.T.R.I.O.T ACT!

I might in fact join you in that assertion.
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bump
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Being an American, this makes me nervous because a president with these powers could easily abuse them.

Obama promises not to abuse these powers but who knows whos coming down the road? The road is paved for a hitlet or stalin to come in and take total control and say all his opposition are terrorist.

It could happen....

It probably will happen....


Wake up America!!!!!
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Ask Michael Hastings if it could happen.
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07/18/2013 03:26 AM
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hiding
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The injunction has been overturned.

Game on, motherfuckers!
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the danger comes when they start redefining what a terrorist is.....

You might fall into one of those categories
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ohyeah bump
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Thank you Jorge Bush and the "Patriot Act". The reich wing are the biggest traitors the nation has ever seen.
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one big ring to rule them all so is your political system

btw the titles misleading fact is this authorities them to kill anyone as well as to torture them and even their families for shits a giggles.

mon fur...
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Thank you Jorge Bush and the "Patriot Act". The reich wing are the biggest traitors the nation has ever seen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36119557


one big ring to rule them all so is your political system

btw the titles misleading fact is this authorities them to kill anyone as well as to torture them and even their families for shits a giggles.

mon fur...
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authorizes not authorities... damn spellcheck burnit
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That is how power morphs. Bush starts it all with the patriot act (quite patriotic sounding right? who wouldn't support the patriotic sounding program?) Obama expands upon it and then a hitler type comes around and says "who I can control everything" and "I get jail all my opposition"

Don't be foolish. Look at history. it has happened in other countries and it can happen here too
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why a one star? This is really happening.
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Cause everyone is more interested in that trayvon fuckwit...they could not give a flying fuck about their freedoms..or..lack OF them.


And so sinks the titanic.
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you may be right. that may be the reason TM issue has been sensationalized. To get us to not think about our freedoms circling the toilet
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We're pretty much fucked at this point, though, if Superman flies in to save the day, we might make it out of this alive.

Too bad there is no Superman.
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why a one star? This is really happening.
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Cause everyone is more interested in that trayvon fuckwit...they could not give a flying fuck about their freedoms..or..lack OF them.


And so sinks the titanic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16529124


sad but true.
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the downside of this Law is he can use this as an excuse to detain anyone he wants ..
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the downside of this Law is he can use this as an excuse to detain anyone he wants ..
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There is no upside of "this Law".
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the downside of this Law is he can use this as an excuse to detain anyone he wants ..
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There is no upside of "this Law".
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Maybe there is an upside. Under the law, doesn't this make Obama a terrorist? Wouldn't he then be just as likely to be arrested for the very law he wishes to envoke.

Obama wants to give arms and money for people that are fighting an existing government. Under the law, fighting or resisting the lagetimate government, or supplying said resistance with aid, would result in a charge of aiding terrorism. So, under the law, Obama is guilty of violating his own law, and therefore should be arrested and permanently detained.

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