steam rising from reactor building.. Jul-18-2013

for more info later

Confirmed Tepco say it's rainwater.
Welcome to the world's first open air fission reactor.

Wind update:
NNW at 11 km/h / 3.1 m/s

Tokyo safe for now...?

I think I know what this is.......ground water steam.

The fucking corium blob finally hit the water table below the plant.

I knew it was bound to happen sooner or later. The China Syndrome.


Well know soon enough. The event WILL get worse soon IF it is the China Syndrome.

Eventually, a massive steam explosive like eruption will blast up and outward. Propelling radioactive particles VERY high into the air.


Damn, this could be some REAL doom on top of REAL doom!!!

If that fucker blows sky high, that is how that plutonium is spread. Which is the most lethal element known to man.

Where do you see Iodine-129+131???

Without Iodine no "China Syndrome"!

Let's do some kindergarten logic.....

Nothing can hold back a corium blob

We know one formed from the neutron bursts early on.

The neutron bursts were becoming harder to detect at distance. Some suggested it weakening but that was BS logic. The corium was sinking into the ground. Imagine a light slowly dropping into a tunnel. It is bright and then dims on the surface.


Show me pics of the extracted fuel rods in Reactor 3!! Can't because they are still in there. There IS a corium blob, has been for a while.

Now the shit is about to blow sky high.

I could be wrong.....I could be right!





edit: plus, unless we studied and active China Syndrome Event we can not rule out anything as we are learning along the way. For all you know the Iodine could be precipitating out from intense heat with carbon in the soil...or become scrubbed from the soil around it.

Or the device to read such things is contaminated with heavy debris....


List goes on buddy. I hope you like to glow at night. I feel sorry for you, I really do.

It's nothing... someone is ironing a shirt.

A little 5* love



Last Edited by DevilsAdvocateToday on 07/18/2013 08:05 AM

would they give us a warning?

I have such a bad feeling about this...

The Cooling in Nr. 3 restarted very quick and the Time without cooling
was short, there was not enough Time for a full Melt-Down and Melt-Through!

Not only me doubt a ongoing "China Syndrome" in any of the Reactor!

My Opinion, nothing else!

And don't feel sorry for me but feel sorry for yourself!

Tokyo, 0.095 Microsievert/ Hour at the Ground.

btw, reactor 3 had an experimental fuel mix in it. Can't tell me it wasn't w/o cooling for a set amount of time and expect it to reactor like regular nuclear fuel. That fuel fissiles VERY hot. AND the cooling you claim was said to be minimal, if at all. Barely enough to cool a regular reactor under no load. Not to mention a plutonium filled experimental fuel.

No, reactor 3 had no cooling at all. The top of the reactor core was gone, blown off. Particles of plutonium was found across the downwind pattern. Remember them dumping soil to cover it?


It was literally impossible to cool #3 with the lid blown off. That reactor melted down and is digging into the ground as we speak.

Unless I see a verified pic of the fuel rods in place, I say it is BS and the Corium blob is on it's way.

@ Voltaic

[link to photo.tepco.co.jp]

Not a single pic of the reactor core. Not even a pic above it to show if the yellow lid is still in place or not. One pic did show a little but no yellow and it appeared to be hollow.


So far I still stand, I will not agree unless I see a verified pic of Reactor #3 CORE or LID to the core.



That all deals with the spent fuel pool! I am talking about the reactor CORE!

You know you are on to something then the Nippon Shills appear.

AC43621553: Your number has been noted.

But you can see all around the Torus.

Nobody can make a Picture for you from the Coria,
for this you need to wait, at least, until 2020!

But they will try with a kind of X-Ray (Muon) to get a better knowledge!
[link to aipadvances.aip.org]

So if a picture is not possible, how is it YOU are sure there is NO corium blob?!?!

You AREN'T sure!

If you were telling the truth you would say things like, maybe or we'll know for sure in 2020.

But to make a claim you can not verify, shows either emotional injection into logical thought (very bad idea here) or you are ordered to lie.

why do you fear someone who is not even fluent in English?

I am just someone who trust in Numbers, knowledge and Results,
there is. no reason to call me "Shill"!

If you trust numbers and facts, you will understand there IS a possibility for there to be a corium blob starting the China Syndrome. We both know nothing is capable of retaining a corium blob.

@ Voltaic,
but i believe in Chemical Analysis, Measurements and Experience,
there is absolute no Evidence for a " China Syndrome"!

But i know you since 03/11 and respect your opinion
but she is not valid for me!

And you trust the people who release this data? Do you trust the media which filters data?

What data, direct it towards us so we can see what you see!

Nothing is considered in this thread unless a link to it is offered.

Way too many people lie all the time. Provide support for your claims or risk being labelled as a shill.


btw, no one has experience with China Syndrome. Chemical analysis is not possible at this time, measurements are nice but tell me what are you measuring........more holes in your claims.

There is absolutely no evidence to believe the corium is still inside the containment.

Did you see the Elephant's foot at Chernobyl?



This bugger melted through many feet of concrete and only just missed a room flooded with water (which obviously would have exploded had the super-hot material hit the water).

Steam is evidence of something, you don't know what, so better to be cautious.

Exactly, and the water tables below, they don't simply transition from dry soil to water table.

If the corium blob was approaching water, the very edges that are damp will begin to steam. Not too long after that the corium and water table will meet up and explode with violence.

Water will make the nuclear reaction increase dramatically. Making for more radiation, heat and burn the fuel faster.

If the corium is ejected into the air with lots of steam, it may produce a slow motion nuclear explosion.



Water cools the blob. making the atoms closer which greatly increases the fission events per neutron release. Which is like going full throttle.


Water flash boils into steam
Heat is drawn away w/ steam
Atoms become closer
Reaction events increase
More heat is created
Which makes more steam
Which draws more heat away.
etc
etc
etc



The more heat that is removed from the reaction means the reaction will grow stronger. This is why we get neutron bursts during temp changes. It rings like a bell.

Oh, i really don't mind to get called "Shill",
people who do this are intolerant. Dogma-Tards
and behind of the Nibiru- and Sun is out of Her Place-Tards!

Yes, i believe in Results from our scientific Society,
after studying this Topic since Day one their Opinions
work much better than all the so called "Alternative Media"!

@Op,
as you can see- the molten Fuel was stopped with Dirt, Concrete,
Nitrogen and Borsig Acid!

A Corium is not a Perpedomobile,
the Energy is coming with a Limit.

5* for you OP

for later reading.

It was stopped because thousands of people sacrificed life to end the melt down. By pouring lead and other neutron absorbing material onto the corium.

Nothing like that is happening at Fukushima. They can't even get to the core yet, let alone know what is going on in their.

Chernobyl is our only and best example. And look what it took to stop that beast. Now we have a reactor with PLUTONIUM in it, which fissiles WAY hotter, WAY WAY hotter.


Tell me, if Chernobly had plutonium laced fuel and couldn't get to the core, what would have happened?

BOOM is what would have happened.


Fukushima is going to blow sky fucking high one day. Best to be oceans away from it.

@ Voltaic,

Chernobyl and Fukushima are as different as our Opinion

I didn't realize how bad the surrounding area was around there still. From the pics of the steam from #3 there is still rubble, debris, re-bar, etc. etc. all around lying about. Looks like the eq just happened today. I guess clean up is still low on the priority list. I can understand that though...

Not really. Chernobyl is the CLOSEST thing we have to compare with. That makes them very similar.

If you want to compare language on the keys, yes they are very different.

But having a disaster induced runaway reaction, they are both the same.

They both have fuel continuing to fiss away. Err, during the disaster.


In fact, a LOT of meltdown procedure was written FROM the Chernobyl disaster.

You just shot your credibility. If you were any nuclear professional, you would often refer to Chernobyl when discussing meltdowns.



You have no worthy opinion in the subject matter.

We know why it is going slow.......radiation and lots of it. Indicating a reaction is still on going.

Otherwise they would be able to remove at least the exterior damage and cover the entire building.