I used to live right next to their property. Didn't know anything about The Grove when I moved there. Next door neighbor was one of the first members of La Vey's church and best friends with his daughter. She was no longer a practicing member and told us some very creepy stories, like people cutting off their own thumbs as sacrifice and blood drinking. And, after knowing her, I now believe in Lycanthropy - she was amazingly beautiful in her youth but had developed a 'condition' where she would grow so much body hair that she even had to shave her knuckles daily! Oh yeah, and she lived with a pack of 5 wolves in her house.