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| H0NEYBEE Offer Upgrade  User ID: 39160120  United States07/19/2013 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Florida Governor Refuses To Revisit "Stand Your Ground" Law On Wednesday, the NAACP entered the fray, with WCTV-TV reporting that Scott received a letter from the group asking him to return to Tallahassee. “I’ve gotten calls from mothers and fathers worried about school,” wrote Tallahassee NAACP President Dale Landry. “That’s why the governor has to come back. We have to take another look at this.” According to the Palm Beach Post, Scott is not budging. He sent a letter of his own to Florida NAACP President Adora Obi Nweze late Wednesday, informing the group that travel will prohibit him from returning to the capitol on Thursday. Scott also argued that the Zimmerman case and Stand Your Ground were not directly tied. “After holding seven public meetings and considering 16,603 pieces of correspondence and 160 public comments at Task Force meetings, the Task Force concurred with the Stand Your Ground law and I agree,” Scott wrote, according to the paper. “It is also important to note that Florida’s Stand Your Ground law was not argued in the Zimmerman case.” Read more: [link to clashdaily.com] [link to www.cbsnews.com] *Very Informative Article [link to tv.msnbc.com] [link to abcnews.go.com] Stand Your Ground Law Doesn't Work For This Woman Gets 20 Years Just For Firing Warning Shot At Abusive Husband For those that do not agree with the "Stand Your Ground Law", that think it is immoral and unworkable, what would you suggest be put in it's place? What would be politically correct? "Give Up Your Home?" "Take My Daughter, Please!" "Heres My Wallet?" What would you call the proper law? Governor Scott Issues Proclamation for a Statewide Day of Prayer for Unity in Florida Tallahassee, Fla. –Today, Governor Scott issued the following proclamation for a Statewide Day of Prayer for Unity in Florida: WHEREAS, the people of Florida are strong and optimistic people who band together in times of crisis; and WHEREAS, Florida has faced many challenges before – including natural disasters – with a spirit of unity and perseverance; and WHEREAS, the death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin is a tragedy; and the Martin family, the family of George Zimmerman, and all those affected by Trayvon’s death remain in our thoughts and prayers; and WHEREAS, emotions are running high as we continue to grieve the loss of Trayvon and the toll that the tragic events surrounding his death have taken on the community of Sanford, Florida, and other communities across our state; and WHEREAS, tragic events compel us to a time of deep reflection and prayer to find strength and peace in uncertainty; and WHEREAS, Floridians are unified in not only their resilience, but also in being a people of great humility, kindness, and compassion; NOW, THEREFORE, I, Rick Scott, Governor of the State of Florida, do hereby declare Sunday, July 21, 2013, as a STATEWIDE DAY OF PRAYER FOR UNITY IN FLORIDA.  ^^^  ^^^Last Edited by H0NEYBEE on 07/19/2013 06:11 PM "I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world. We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr. |
| H0NEYBEE (OP) User ID: 39160120 United States07/19/2013 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world. We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr. |
| H0NEYBEE (OP) User ID: 39160120 United States07/19/2013 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a Floridian. I voted yes, I agree with our Governor. I do think they should reevaluate the case on the woman that received 20 years for "Standing Her Ground." She should not be in prison. Last Edited by H0NEYBEE on 07/19/2013 12:08 PM "I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world. We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr. |
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| H0NEYBEE (OP) User ID: 39160120 United States07/19/2013 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If "stand your Ground" is morally or politically wrong what do you call what is politically correct? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 737800 "Give Up Your Home"? "Take My Daughter, Please!" "Heres My Wallet"? What would they call the proper law? I don't know what they would call "proper law." We should be able to protect ourselves under a certain set of circumstances. "I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world. We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 737800 Germany07/19/2013 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If "stand your Ground" is morally or politically wrong what do you call what is politically correct? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 737800 "Give Up Your Home"? "Take My Daughter, Please!" "Heres My Wallet"? What would they call the proper law? I don't know what they would call "proper law." We should be able to protect ourselves under a certain set of circumstances. It should be patently obvious that they dont want you to defend yourself or your property, so since that is a given what would they new law be called? Answer this question and everything becomes obvious |
| H0NEYBEE (OP) User ID: 39160120 United States07/19/2013 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If "stand your Ground" is morally or politically wrong what do you call what is politically correct? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 737800 "Give Up Your Home"? "Take My Daughter, Please!" "Heres My Wallet"? What would they call the proper law? I don't know what they would call "proper law." We should be able to protect ourselves under a certain set of circumstances. It should be patently obvious that they dont want you to defend yourself or your property, so since that is a given what would they new law be called? Answer this question and everything becomes obvious You want me to be direct. Being direct, this is all about control. Stop the "Stand Your Ground Law", then take away our 2nd Ammendment of "Gun Ownership." Then they can control and own everything that we have. This is not just about America, this is all going towards the "One World Government." Last Edited by H0NEYBEE on 07/19/2013 12:30 PM "I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world. We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 737800 Germany07/19/2013 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If "stand your Ground" is morally or politically wrong what do you call what is politically correct? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 737800 "Give Up Your Home"? "Take My Daughter, Please!" "Heres My Wallet"? What would they call the proper law? I don't know what they would call "proper law." We should be able to protect ourselves under a certain set of circumstances. It should be patently obvious that they dont want you to defend yourself or your property, so since that is a given what would they new law be called? Answer this question and everything becomes obvious You want me to be direct. Being direct, this is all about control. Stop the "Stand Your Ground Law", then take away our 2nd Ammendment of "Gun Ownership." Then they can control and own everything that we have. This is not just about America, this will eventually go towards the "One World Government." You remain apparently unclear of the point. Youre to ask those who claim that "stand Your Ground" is immoral and unworkable what THEY want in its place. As of yet I've seen nobody ask of the naysayers what should be in its place. I know there is nothing that can replace stand your ground. Self defense is the foundation of every right you think you still have. |
| H0NEYBEE (OP) User ID: 39160120 United States07/19/2013 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I added your question. Thank you AC.  Last Edited by H0NEYBEE on 07/19/2013 01:18 PM "I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world. We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr. |
| eekers Dreamer of Dreams User ID: 38137469 United States07/19/2013 01:43 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a Floridian. I voted yes, I agree with our Governor. Quoting: H0NEYBEE I do think they should reevaluate the case on the woman that received 20 years for "Standing Her Ground." She should not be in prison. I voted yes as well. As for the 20 yr lady, blame mandatory minimum sentencing, that's the problem. I agree with the verdict, but not the sentence. First thing you learn in a CCW class is to not use your firearm unless it is absolutely necessary. In her case, she had other options than getting the firearm out of the car and bringing it back in the house. It's a lethal weapon, not an I'm-gonna-scare-the-crap-out-of-you weapon. She should have never fired at him if she didn't mean it. "We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time." - T. S. Eliot |
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| H0NEYBEE (OP) User ID: 39160120 United States07/19/2013 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a Floridian. I voted yes, I agree with our Governor. Quoting: H0NEYBEE I do think they should reevaluate the case on the woman that received 20 years for "Standing Her Ground." She should not be in prison. I voted yes as well. As for the 20 yr lady, blame mandatory minimum sentencing, that's the problem. I agree with the verdict, but not the sentence. First thing you learn in a CCW class is to not use your firearm unless it is absolutely necessary. In her case, she had other options than getting the firearm out of the car and bringing it back in the house. It's a lethal weapon, not an I'm-gonna-scare-the-crap-out-of-you weapon. She should have never fired at him if she didn't mean it. Yes, true. There is a group that is trying to change the mandatory minimum sentencing guidelines. I am fully behind them on that. We have sentences that are outrageous. She definitely did not deserve 20 years in prison. Here's a link to the advocacy group! [link to www.famm.org] "I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world. We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr. |
| Sir Phydeau User ID: 22271457 United States07/19/2013 01:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stand Your Ground Law Doesn't Work For This Woman Gets 20 Years Just For Firing Warning Shot At Abusive Husband Quoting: H0NEYBEE The fact that so many keep siting this case as something akin to a reverse Martin/Zimmerman case is almost laughable once someone gets familiar with the facts of the case. 1) Zimmerman never cited Stand Your Ground, it was a simple Self Defense case. 2) Alexander did not exit the home or even attempt to do so. She claimed the garage door was broken but investigators found nothing to support this claim. 3) She claimed she fired in Gray's direction instead of trying to hit him and missing, not very common for someone in fear of their life. (but I'm willing to concede this one). 4) Alexander did not call the police, Gray did. It is unlikely that someone sustains a near fatal attack and then refuses to cal the police. 5) Alexander repeatedly returned to Gray's home after the incident, despite judge's orders to not do so and her promising to obey said order. 6) Alexander’s behavior before and after her arrest in December of 2010 while she was still awaiting trial for the previous incident also calls into question whether she actually believed the use of deadly force was necessary to defend herself from Gray in August of 2010. Alexander never called police and initially lied about even being present at Gray’s home. 7) And imo, the most chilling, she fired the gun into the wall where there were 2 children on the other side. Putting children at risk. Last Edited by Sir Phydeau on 07/19/2013 01:57 PM "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes "The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin Real men keep Torah. Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10. Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money. Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married. Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common. |
| eekers Dreamer of Dreams User ID: 38137469 United States07/19/2013 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a Floridian. I voted yes, I agree with our Governor. Quoting: H0NEYBEE I do think they should reevaluate the case on the woman that received 20 years for "Standing Her Ground." She should not be in prison. I voted yes as well. As for the 20 yr lady, blame mandatory minimum sentencing, that's the problem. I agree with the verdict, but not the sentence. First thing you learn in a CCW class is to not use your firearm unless it is absolutely necessary. In her case, she had other options than getting the firearm out of the car and bringing it back in the house. It's a lethal weapon, not an I'm-gonna-scare-the-crap-out-of-you weapon. She should have never fired at him if she didn't mean it. Yes, true. There is a group that is trying to change the mandatory minimum sentencing guidelines. I am fully behind them on that. We have sentences that are outrageous. She definitely did not deserve 20 years in prison. Here's a link to the advocacy group! [link to www.famm.org] yeah I don't see her being in the same boat as some gangster firing shots out his car window just to be cool or scare people, but she was definitely not innocent. I think mandatory minimum sentences are a lazy and unfair way to enforce the law. thanks for the link! "We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time." - T. S. Eliot |
| davvi User ID: 3677166 United States07/19/2013 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Florida Governor Refuses To Revisit "Stand Your Ground" Law Quoting: H0NEYBEE On Wednesday, the NAACP entered the fray, with WCTV-TV reporting that Scott received a letter from the group asking him to return to Tallahassee. “I’ve gotten calls from mothers and fathers worried about school,” wrote Tallahassee NAACP President Dale Landry. “That’s why the governor has to come back. We have to take another look at this.” According to the Palm Beach Post, Scott is not budging. He sent a letter of his own to Florida NAACP President Adora Obi Nweze late Wednesday, informing the group that travel will prohibit him from returning to the capitol on Thursday. Scott also argued that the Zimmerman case and Stand Your Ground were not directly tied. “After holding seven public meetings and considering 16,603 pieces of correspondence and 160 public comments at Task Force meetings, the Task Force concurred with the Stand Your Ground law and I agree,” Scott wrote, according to the paper. “It is also important to note that Florida’s Stand Your Ground law was not argued in the Zimmerman case.” Read more: [link to clashdaily.com] [link to www.cbsnews.com] *Very Informative Article [link to tv.msnbc.com] [link to abcnews.go.com] Stand Your Ground Law Doesn't Work For This Woman Gets 20 Years Just For Firing Warning Shot At Abusive Husband For those that do not agree with the "Stand Your Ground Law", that think it is immoral and unworkable, what would you suggest be put in it's place? What would be politically correct? "Give Up Your Home?" "Take My Daughter, Please!" "Heres My Wallet?" What would you call the proper law? ^^^ ^^^That idiot governor blundered enough appointing Angela Corey, so he had better just sit down and shut up. |
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| Sir Phydeau User ID: 22271457 United States07/19/2013 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That idiot governor blundered enough appointing Angela Corey, so he had better just sit down and shut up. Quoting: davvi Oh one big similarity between the Zimmerman and Alexander case ... Angela Corey was the special prosecutor in both cases. "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes "The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin Real men keep Torah. Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10. Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money. Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married. Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common. |
| H0NEYBEE (OP) User ID: 39160120 United States07/19/2013 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stand Your Ground Law Doesn't Work For This Woman Gets 20 Years Just For Firing Warning Shot At Abusive Husband Quoting: H0NEYBEE The fact that so many keep siting this case as something akin to a reverse Martin/Zimmerman case is almost laughable once someone gets familiar with the facts of the case. 1) Zimmerman never cited Stand Your Ground, it was a simple Self Defense case. 2) Alexander did not exit the home or even attempt to do so. She claimed the garage door was broken but investigators found nothing to support this claim. 3) She claimed she fired in Gray's direction instead of trying to hit him and missing, not very common for someone in fear of their life. (but I'm willing to concede this one). 4) Alexander did not call the police, Gray did. It is unlikely that someone sustains a near fatal attack and then refuses to cal the police. 5) Alexander repeatedly returned to Gray's home after the incident, despite judge's orders to not do so and her promising to obey said order. 6) Alexander’s behavior before and after her arrest in December of 2010 while she was still awaiting trial for the previous incident also calls into question whether she actually believed the use of deadly force was necessary to defend herself from Gray in August of 2010. Alexander never called police and initially lied about even being present at Gray’s home. 7) And imo, the most chilling, she fired the gun into the wall where there were 2 children on the other side. Putting children at risk. Although I agree with all of your points, I still believe 20 years is outrageous. That sentence is too severe. Which is why I will share this link again that fights the Mandatory Minimum Sentences. [link to www.famm.org] Our prisons are overcrowded, and we are the largest prison nation in the world because of these guidelines and some other issues. "I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world. We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr. |
| Sir Phydeau User ID: 22271457 United States07/19/2013 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stand Your Ground Law Doesn't Work For This Woman Gets 20 Years Just For Firing Warning Shot At Abusive Husband Quoting: H0NEYBEE The fact that so many keep siting this case as something akin to a reverse Martin/Zimmerman case is almost laughable once someone gets familiar with the facts of the case. 1) Zimmerman never cited Stand Your Ground, it was a simple Self Defense case. 2) Alexander did not exit the home or even attempt to do so. She claimed the garage door was broken but investigators found nothing to support this claim. 3) She claimed she fired in Gray's direction instead of trying to hit him and missing, not very common for someone in fear of their life. (but I'm willing to concede this one). 4) Alexander did not call the police, Gray did. It is unlikely that someone sustains a near fatal attack and then refuses to cal the police. 5) Alexander repeatedly returned to Gray's home after the incident, despite judge's orders to not do so and her promising to obey said order. 6) Alexander’s behavior before and after her arrest in December of 2010 while she was still awaiting trial for the previous incident also calls into question whether she actually believed the use of deadly force was necessary to defend herself from Gray in August of 2010. Alexander never called police and initially lied about even being present at Gray’s home. 7) And imo, the most chilling, she fired the gun into the wall where there were 2 children on the other side. Putting children at risk. Although I agree with all of your points, I still believe 20 years is outrageous. That sentence is too severe. Which is why I will share this link again that fights the Mandatory Minimum Sentences. [link to www.famm.org] Our prisons are overcrowded, and we are the largest prison nation in the world because of these guidelines and some other issues. I have no love for mandatory minimum sentencing. None at all. That's another matter from what many are pushing this case to the forefront is about, though. I bet she regrets not taking the 3 years Corey offered her to plea, though. "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes "The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin Real men keep Torah. Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10. Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money. Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married. Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common. |
| H0NEYBEE (OP) User ID: 39160120 United States07/19/2013 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a Floridian. I voted yes, I agree with our Governor. Quoting: H0NEYBEE I do think they should reevaluate the case on the woman that received 20 years for "Standing Her Ground." She should not be in prison. I voted yes as well. As for the 20 yr lady, blame mandatory minimum sentencing, that's the problem. I agree with the verdict, but not the sentence. First thing you learn in a CCW class is to not use your firearm unless it is absolutely necessary. In her case, she had other options than getting the firearm out of the car and bringing it back in the house. It's a lethal weapon, not an I'm-gonna-scare-the-crap-out-of-you weapon. She should have never fired at him if she didn't mean it. Yes, true. There is a group that is trying to change the mandatory minimum sentencing guidelines. I am fully behind them on that. We have sentences that are outrageous. She definitely did not deserve 20 years in prison. Here's a link to the advocacy group! [link to www.famm.org] yeah I don't see her being in the same boat as some gangster firing shots out his car window just to be cool or scare people, but she was definitely not innocent. I think mandatory minimum sentences are a lazy and unfair way to enforce the law. thanks for the link! You're welcome!  "I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world. We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr. |
| H0NEYBEE (OP) User ID: 39160120 United States07/19/2013 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All jurors should be aware of Jury nullification, which the court system tries to hide from the jurors. It is in the Constitution and most people don't know about it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10472993 Agreed! Jury Nullification [link to en.wikipedia.org] "I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world. We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 43689227 United States07/19/2013 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Be VERY CAREFUL Folks, how you look at this!!! TPTB, are pushing obama,jackson,king and the blacks to push this shit. What I believe it really boils down to is this: TPTB, want your guns, and your rights to fight,defend and tp protect yourselves from any person/s, group of people that want to commandeer you, you're family or your home...without any serious "blowback" coming back at them for making such illegally moves and tachtics. This includes any police or military-type group. Use your heads! DOn't fall for it. If you don't believe in guns, that's your damned business. But it isn't your damned business at all if the rest of use do! I'm sure if you or your family were being accosted or hurt...and a neighbor gun-owner stepped-in to save your ass...I'm willing to bet you would be eternally-greatful and wouldn't complain about it at all!!! If they suceed in getting the black to stupidly go along with their agenda....then you black folks also will suffer too! |
| H0NEYBEE (OP) User ID: 39160120 United States07/19/2013 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stand Your Ground Law Doesn't Work For This Woman Gets 20 Years Just For Firing Warning Shot At Abusive Husband Quoting: H0NEYBEE The fact that so many keep siting this case as something akin to a reverse Martin/Zimmerman case is almost laughable once someone gets familiar with the facts of the case. 1) Zimmerman never cited Stand Your Ground, it was a simple Self Defense case. 2) Alexander did not exit the home or even attempt to do so. She claimed the garage door was broken but investigators found nothing to support this claim. 3) She claimed she fired in Gray's direction instead of trying to hit him and missing, not very common for someone in fear of their life. (but I'm willing to concede this one). 4) Alexander did not call the police, Gray did. It is unlikely that someone sustains a near fatal attack and then refuses to cal the police. 5) Alexander repeatedly returned to Gray's home after the incident, despite judge's orders to not do so and her promising to obey said order. 6) Alexander’s behavior before and after her arrest in December of 2010 while she was still awaiting trial for the previous incident also calls into question whether she actually believed the use of deadly force was necessary to defend herself from Gray in August of 2010. Alexander never called police and initially lied about even being present at Gray’s home. 7) And imo, the most chilling, she fired the gun into the wall where there were 2 children on the other side. Putting children at risk. Although I agree with all of your points, I still believe 20 years is outrageous. That sentence is too severe. Which is why I will share this link again that fights the Mandatory Minimum Sentences. [link to www.famm.org] Our prisons are overcrowded, and we are the largest prison nation in the world because of these guidelines and some other issues. I have no love for mandatory minimum sentencing. None at all. That's another matter from what many are pushing this case to the forefront is about, though. I bet she regrets not taking the 3 years Corey offered her to plea, though. I'm sure she does regret it. That is the gamble you always take when deciding to go to trial or plea bargain. "I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world. We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr. |
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| H0NEYBEE (OP) User ID: 39160120 United States07/19/2013 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a Floridian. I voted yes, I agree with our Governor. Quoting: H0NEYBEE I do think they should reevaluate the case on the woman that received 20 years for "Standing Her Ground." She should not be in prison. This Floridian agrees with you.  I love your Avatar!! "I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world. We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr. |
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| H0NEYBEE (OP) User ID: 39160120 United States07/19/2013 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  "I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world. We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23708564 United States07/19/2013 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh come one, people ! Everyone knows TM was picked as the gun control poster boy last year. Obama made remarks back then and it's been part of the gun grab plan ever since. All those psyop ops were played out for taking away the divine right to protect oneself, ones family and property Now the bullies have been sent out to harass the population of the US. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35940360 United States07/19/2013 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Florida Governor Refuses To Revisit "Stand Your Ground" Law Quoting: H0NEYBEE On Wednesday, the NAACP entered the fray, with WCTV-TV reporting that Scott received a letter from the group asking him to return to Tallahassee. “I’ve gotten calls from mothers and fathers worried about school,” wrote Tallahassee NAACP President Dale Landry. “That’s why the governor has to come back. We have to take another look at this.” According to the Palm Beach Post, Scott is not budging. He sent a letter of his own to Florida NAACP President Adora Obi Nweze late Wednesday, informing the group that travel will prohibit him from returning to the capitol on Thursday. Scott also argued that the Zimmerman case and Stand Your Ground were not directly tied. “After holding seven public meetings and considering 16,603 pieces of correspondence and 160 public comments at Task Force meetings, the Task Force concurred with the Stand Your Ground law and I agree,” Scott wrote, according to the paper. “It is also important to note that Florida’s Stand Your Ground law was not argued in the Zimmerman case.” Read more: [link to clashdaily.com] [link to www.cbsnews.com] *Very Informative Article [link to tv.msnbc.com] [link to abcnews.go.com] Stand Your Ground Law Doesn't Work For This Woman Gets 20 Years Just For Firing Warning Shot At Abusive Husband For those that do not agree with the "Stand Your Ground Law", that think it is immoral and unworkable, what would you suggest be put in it's place? What would be politically correct? "Give Up Your Home?" "Take My Daughter, Please!" "Heres My Wallet?" What would you call the proper law? :Internet Arguing: ^^^ ^^^What a pointless post. He affirms the current law. Good for him.  |
| H0NEYBEE (OP) User ID: 39160120 United States07/19/2013 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Democrat Jimmy Carter on George Zimmerman Verdict: ‘Right Decision’ “It’s not a moral question, it was a legal question, and the American law requires that the jury listen to the evidence presented,” Carter said. [link to abcnews.go.com] "I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world. We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr. |
