Godlike Productions - Conspiracy Forum
Users Online Now: 1,787 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 322,045
Pageviews Today: 442,953Threads Today: 84Posts Today: 2,079
03:01 AM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

Public employees whining about pensions after Detroit goes bankrupt

 
Astral Goat
From the deep space petting zoo...

User ID: 33435073
United States
07/19/2013 10:15 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Public employees whining about pensions after Detroit goes bankrupt
Saying it violates the money they were promised for retirement


Now you know why Detroit went bankrupt!!!! Lol

Last Edited by Astral Goat on 07/19/2013 10:16 PM
[link to nextgenfmradio.com] All night dance party yeah!

Hogan/Rutherford for Maryland
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 16591630
United States
07/19/2013 10:20 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Public employees whining about pensions after Detroit goes bankrupt
money they were promised for retirement
..enough said
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 13127957
United States
07/19/2013 10:30 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Public employees whining about pensions after Detroit goes bankrupt
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 43679456
United States
07/19/2013 10:33 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Public employees whining about pensions after Detroit goes bankrupt
Let this be a lesson to those LEo's lurking. They will be after your pensions next.
Astral Goat (OP)
From the deep space petting zoo...

User ID: 33435073
United States
07/19/2013 10:35 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Public employees whining about pensions after Detroit goes bankrupt
Judge ordered Detroit government to withdraw bankruptcy request because pensioners would be denied their retirement money
[link to nextgenfmradio.com] All night dance party yeah!

Hogan/Rutherford for Maryland
Resister

User ID: 1461638
United States
07/19/2013 10:39 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Public employees whining about pensions after Detroit goes bankrupt
Maybe they should have thought about where all the eggs came from before they killed the Golden Goose.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
OP stinks
User ID: 43706991
United States
07/19/2013 10:54 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Public employees whining about pensions after Detroit goes bankrupt
Detroit fall is result of federal policy.
Other than that everybody is entitled to his own retirement money .If not for unions we would work for bowl of soup ,18 hours/ day
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 43701302
United States
07/19/2013 11:00 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Public employees whining about pensions after Detroit goes bankrupt
I wouldn't use the word whining to describe the people who worked their entire lives to make sure at the end they had money to live on. How the hell can you say it like that? Maybe the boys in congress or the House, Or the President should lose the money they were promised for the rest of their lives, because I positive they didn't earn it.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 43679456
United States
07/19/2013 11:03 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Public employees whining about pensions after Detroit goes bankrupt
Detroit fall is result of federal policy.
Other than that everybody is entitled to his own retirement money .If not for unions we would work for bowl of soup ,18 hours/ day
 Quoting: OP stinks 43706991


You think Unions are a good thing? crazyjak
Resister

User ID: 1461638
United States
07/19/2013 11:12 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Public employees whining about pensions after Detroit goes bankrupt
I wouldn't use the word whining to describe the people who worked their entire lives to make sure at the end they had money to live on. How the hell can you say it like that? Maybe the boys in congress or the House, Or the President should lose the money they were promised for the rest of their lives, because I positive they didn't earn it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43701302


The unions and the insanely irresponsible city managers over the decades have demanded more and more and more from less and less and less. Detroitistan is way past the breaking point and it is no one else's fault but the people who have demanded more than can be paid and re-elected decades of economically destructive progressive liberals. There has been a mass exodus from the once great city of Detroit because of it, but the people just refused to live within their means.

They aren't losing a retirement they saved up for. They promised themselves something out in the future that they couldn't afford. They were warned and warned and warned and they were defiant and refused to listen. That is the problem. That is why so much of the country has absolutely no sympathy for the whiners in Detroit. They did it to themselves.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21100567
United States
07/19/2013 11:13 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Public employees whining about pensions after Detroit goes bankrupt
I thought by law they had to fund the pension accounts. If you worked for the city for 20 years and had a pension account built up, wouldn't that money be in your account and be your money?? Shouldn't the money already be there? I don't understand.

I work for a college and a pension is part of our benefit package. they put 10% of your pay in your own personal pension account. We get a statement every quarter showing our balance. They fund it each month with the payroll.
When we retire, we can either take 50% of it as a lump sum or leave it and receive annuity payments. The money has already been paid by the college and transferred to each one of the annuity accounts. What was Detroit doing different??

That's what I'm counting on for retirement income. I took a lower paying job because of their pension plan and health insurance package, so I earned it. that money is mine.

Who wouldn't see it that way????
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 43195617
United States
07/19/2013 11:15 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Public employees whining about pensions after Detroit goes bankrupt
Saying it violates the money they were promised for retirement


Now you know why Detroit went bankrupt!!!! Lol
 Quoting: Astral Goat


they voted for those that squandered their investment and gave it to the pols and organized criminals.
What did they expect?

They should eat the shit sandwich they made for themselves, not demand you give them your happymeal in exchange for their shit sammitch
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 43195617
United States
07/19/2013 11:17 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Public employees whining about pensions after Detroit goes bankrupt
I thought by law they had to fund the pension accounts. If you worked for the city for 20 years and had a pension account built up, wouldn't that money be in your account and be your money?? Shouldn't the money already be there? I don't understand.

I work for a college and a pension is part of our benefit package. they put 10% of your pay in your own personal pension account. We get a statement every quarter showing our balance. They fund it each month with the payroll.
When we retire, we can either take 50% of it as a lump sum or leave it and receive annuity payments. The money has already been paid by the college and transferred to each one of the annuity accounts. What was Detroit doing different??

That's what I'm counting on for retirement income. I took a lower paying job because of their pension plan and health insurance package, so I earned it. that money is mine.

Who wouldn't see it that way????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21100567


Someone in authority took that money and gave it to their friends, and that's who they should seek redress and reimbursement from, not the public they fucked over for decades.
Astral Goat (OP)
From the deep space petting zoo...

User ID: 33435073
United States
07/19/2013 11:17 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Public employees whining about pensions after Detroit goes bankrupt
Yes I guess whining isn't right word but how naive can u be?
[link to nextgenfmradio.com] All night dance party yeah!

Hogan/Rutherford for Maryland
ChipModerator
Forum Moderator

User ID: 42942777
United States
07/19/2013 11:18 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Public employees whining about pensions after Detroit goes bankrupt
That's what they get for working for Satan!

kimdowtcwy
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. ~Arthur C. Clarke

Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. ~Mark Twain

He's a nut-bag! Just because the fucker's got a library card doesn't make him Yoda! ~David Mills ~ Se7en

every-citizen
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 43665690
United States
07/19/2013 11:21 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Public employees whining about pensions after Detroit goes bankrupt
Not whining 1/2 as loud as the rich bond holders.
Not whining 1/2 as loud as the unsecured creditors.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 43665690
United States
07/19/2013 11:23 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Public employees whining about pensions after Detroit goes bankrupt
That's what they get for working for Satan!

kimdowtcwy
 Quoting: Chip


You're going to be SO pissed in 5 years with all the good news
about New Detroit.
Detroit is already recovering from their 50 year decline.
Detroit is THE place to startup a business.
There are more startups right now in 100 square blocks of downtown detroit than in all of the southern US states.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 43195617
United States
07/19/2013 11:26 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Public employees whining about pensions after Detroit goes bankrupt
Detroit fall is result of federal policy.
Other than that everybody is entitled to his own retirement money .If not for unions we would work for bowl of soup ,18 hours/ day
 Quoting: OP stinks 43706991


then why did the unions throw away the dues money?

You can take your union and shove it.

Unions are what killed the nation and promoted the entitlement mentality, but when you learn who started and managed them it all becomes clear why they were chosen to prosper and you were chosen to get fucked up the ass.
Astral Goat (OP)
From the deep space petting zoo...

User ID: 33435073
United States
07/19/2013 11:28 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Public employees whining about pensions after Detroit goes bankrupt
I heard unions created current work week schedule
[link to nextgenfmradio.com] All night dance party yeah!

Hogan/Rutherford for Maryland
ChipModerator
Forum Moderator

User ID: 42942777
United States
07/19/2013 11:29 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Public employees whining about pensions after Detroit goes bankrupt
That's what they get for working for Satan!

kimdowtcwy
 Quoting: Chip


You're going to be SO pissed in 5 years with all the good news
about New Detroit.
Detroit is already recovering from their 50 year decline.
Detroit is THE place to startup a business.
There are more startups right now in 100 square blocks of downtown detroit than in all of the southern US states.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43665690


Well...when you can buy 2 city blocks on special for $5.99...the only way to go is up!
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. ~Arthur C. Clarke

Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. ~Mark Twain

He's a nut-bag! Just because the fucker's got a library card doesn't make him Yoda! ~David Mills ~ Se7en

every-citizen
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 43686437
Canada
07/19/2013 11:30 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Public employees whining about pensions after Detroit goes bankrupt
You know the shit got real once the municipal employees are crying foul!

It won't be much longer now.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 43195617
United States
07/19/2013 11:45 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Public employees whining about pensions after Detroit goes bankrupt
I heard unions created current work week schedule
 Quoting: Astral Goat


And how did it turn out so far?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 43665690
United States
07/19/2013 11:46 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Public employees whining about pensions after Detroit goes bankrupt
I heard unions created current work week schedule
 Quoting: Astral Goat


You can thank unions for weekends off and holidays off and
enforced safety and workman's comp and pretty much anything
you take for granted as an hourly employee.
The first union action in america was 6-9 year old boys in a factory demanding only 10 hour work days and only 6 days of work per week.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 43665690
United States
07/19/2013 11:48 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Public employees whining about pensions after Detroit goes bankrupt
I heard unions created current work week schedule
 Quoting: Astral Goat


And how did it turn out so far?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43195617


Unions and the shared prosperity they provided gave America the great years after the First Republican Depression into the time after WWII and the 1950's where even with a top tax bracket of
85 percent everyone, rich and poor, advanced in society.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 40814244
United States
07/19/2013 11:50 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Public employees whining about pensions after Detroit goes bankrupt
Detroit is offering banks .75 on the dollar, .03 on the dollar to bond holders and less to its pension obligations.


Why not be pissed at the banks?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 40814244
United States
07/19/2013 11:52 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Public employees whining about pensions after Detroit goes bankrupt
I heard unions created current work week schedule
 Quoting: Astral Goat


And how did it turn out so far?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43195617



Hey yo

The auto companies had highly-paid execs who were responsible for running the business. Those execs signed the CBA with the union. Nobody forced them. Further, those same execs failed to manage those employees efficiently. Lastly, they failed to provide a product customers wanted to buy. Again, they were highly-paid professionals. There is where the blame lies.

Blaming unions is like blaming small children. Let's blame the adults in charge.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 43252991
United States
07/21/2013 12:31 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Public employees whining about pensions after Detroit goes bankrupt
I thought by law they had to fund the pension accounts. If you worked for the city for 20 years and had a pension account built up, wouldn't that money be in your account and be your money?? Shouldn't the money already be there? I don't understand.

I work for a college and a pension is part of our benefit package. they put 10% of your pay in your own personal pension account. We get a statement every quarter showing our balance. They fund it each month with the payroll.
When we retire, we can either take 50% of it as a lump sum or leave it and receive annuity payments. The money has already been paid by the college and transferred to each one of the annuity accounts. What was Detroit doing different??

That's what I'm counting on for retirement income. I took a lower paying job because of their pension plan and health insurance package, so I earned it. that money is mine.

Who wouldn't see it that way????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21100567


It is your money, invested by others who profit from it, and supposedly for you when you are older and done working your butt off.

News