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How did the 33 year old George Lucas come to know about this

 
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How did the 33 year old George Lucas come to know about this
this isn't just any old mumbo jumbo being talked about here. this is pretty much IT. in a nutshell.

this was more than just a movie.

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He obviously had some high up homies to be privy to that kind of info and be allowed to make a movie about it.
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Because Lucas, like Luke, had a mentor in Irvin Kershner. Lucas would never have been able to pull Empire off on this own.
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Because Lucas, like Luke, had a mentor in Irvin Kershner. Lucas would never have been able to pull Empire off on this own.
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really? did irvin mentor him on star wars too then? was irwin an initiate or something?
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Interesting.
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Hey bickle. DO you play for yoda`s team or vader`s team?
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Re: How did the 33 year old George Lucas come to know about this
Lucas based the force from the Japanese beliefs of Shintoism...

Kami, not a god, is a spirit in everything

Also the ying and yang symbol is the balance of the kami...positive and negative kami balances the world

Yamabushi, mountain warrior priests and ninjas practice tapping into these kamis, or the dark side . Samurai tap into the light side kami
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Lucas based the force from the Japanese beliefs of Shintoism...

Kami, not a god, is a spirit in everything

Also the ying and yang symbol is the balance of the kami...positive and negative kami balances the world

Yamabushi, mountain warrior priests and ninjas practice tapping into these kamis, or the dark side . Samurai tap into the light side kami
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yes. positive and negative being different sides of the same coin. in right hands a fire will heat your home and cook your food, in the wrong hands will burn your house down and cook you alive.

still, this movie just seems too right on for some geeky 30 something to have come up with.
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Because as far as George Lucas is concerned, whatever comes out of Yoda's mouth just has to sound like a Tibetan Monk said it.

I seriously doubt he wrote it, and if he did, then it's purely coincidence that there is any wisdom to be found in it at all.

Then again, it seems Lucas lost his brain somewhere along the line.

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Re: How did the 33 year old George Lucas come to know about this
Because Lucas, like Luke, had a mentor in Irvin Kershner. Lucas would never have been able to pull Empire off on this own.
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really? did irvin mentor him on star wars too then? was irwin an initiate or something?
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Star Wars and Empire are two VERY different movies. Here's an example of what Lucas wanted vs what Kershner did:

What Lucas wanted...
Leia: I love you!
Han: I love you too.

What Kershner did...
Leia: I love you!
Han: I know!

It was the Carbon Freeze scene when Princess Leia says, “I love you.” Han Solo’s response in the script was, “I love you, too.” I shot the line and it just didn’t seem right for the character of Han Solo. So we worked on the scene on the set. We kept trying different things and couldn’t get the right line. We were into the lunch break and I said to Harrison try it again and just do whatever comes to mind. That is when Harrison said the line, “I know.” After the take, I said to my assistant director, David Tomblin, “It’s a wrap.” David looked at me in disbelief and said something like, “Hold on, we just went to overtime. You’re not happy with that, are you?” And I said, yes, it’s the perfect Han Solo remark, and so we went to lunch. George saw the first cut and said, “Wait a minute, wait a minute. That’s not the line in the script.” I said ““I love you, too’ was not Han Solo.” Han Solo was a rebel. George felt that the audience would laugh. And I said, that’s wonderful, he is probably going to his death for all they know. We sat in the room and he thought about it. He then asked me, “Did you shoot the line in the script?” I said yes. So we agreed that we would do two preview screenings once the film was cut and set to music with the line in and then with the line out. At the first preview in San Francisco, the house broke up after Han Solo said I know. When the film was over, people came up and said that is the most wonderful line and it worked. So George decided not to have the second screening.
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Re: How did the 33 year old George Lucas come to know about this
Because as far as George Lucas is concerned, whatever comes out of Yoda's mouth just has to sound like a Tibetan Monk said it.

I seriously doubt he wrote it, and if he did, then it's purely coincidence that there is any wisdom to be found in it at all.

Then again, it seems Lucas lost his brain somewhere along the line.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Yep Yoda and the dalai lama sound almost exactly alike. Weirdest voice ever.
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What about THX1138? He is a mason.
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:yodel:
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Hey bickle. DO you play for yoda`s team or vader`s team?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41956728


both sides want me

i haven't decide yet

i can play either role
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Is there even a decision?

With yodas team you experience profoundness not only in this life but the next.

With vaders team you are a god on earth but once you leave you must pay for your crimes.
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Hey bickle. DO you play for yoda`s team or vader`s team?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41956728


both sides want me

i haven't decide yet

i can play either role
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Is there even a decision?

With yodas team you experience profoundness not only in this life but the next.

With vaders team you are a god on earth but once you leave you must pay for your crimes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41956728


This is a false dichotomy. Had Vader not fallen to the "dark side" then he could never have taught his son Luke the lessons he needed to learn in order to restore the Jedi Order to purity. The distinction is superficial.
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Re: How did the 33 year old George Lucas come to know about this
It's pretty dumb actually.
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Because Lucas, like Luke, had a mentor in Irvin Kershner. Lucas would never have been able to pull Empire off on this own.
 Quoting: TheBiss


really? did irvin mentor him on star wars too then? was irwin an initiate or something?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43532116


Star Wars and Empire are two VERY different movies. Here's an example of what Lucas wanted vs what Kershner did:

What Lucas wanted...
Leia: I love you!
Han: I love you too.

What Kershner did...
Leia: I love you!
Han: I know!

It was the Carbon Freeze scene when Princess Leia says, “I love you.” Han Solo’s response in the script was, “I love you, too.” I shot the line and it just didn’t seem right for the character of Han Solo. So we worked on the scene on the set. We kept trying different things and couldn’t get the right line. We were into the lunch break and I said to Harrison try it again and just do whatever comes to mind. That is when Harrison said the line, “I know.” After the take, I said to my assistant director, David Tomblin, “It’s a wrap.” David looked at me in disbelief and said something like, “Hold on, we just went to overtime. You’re not happy with that, are you?” And I said, yes, it’s the perfect Han Solo remark, and so we went to lunch. George saw the first cut and said, “Wait a minute, wait a minute. That’s not the line in the script.” I said ““I love you, too’ was not Han Solo.” Han Solo was a rebel. George felt that the audience would laugh. And I said, that’s wonderful, he is probably going to his death for all they know. We sat in the room and he thought about it. He then asked me, “Did you shoot the line in the script?” I said yes. So we agreed that we would do two preview screenings once the film was cut and set to music with the line in and then with the line out. At the first preview in San Francisco, the house broke up after Han Solo said I know. When the film was over, people came up and said that is the most wonderful line and it worked. So George decided not to have the second screening.
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well its quite clear on the basis of the 3 shitty prequels that Lucas had some help somewhere....
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It's pretty dumb actually.
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are you a christian?
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As a Christian I can enjoy the movie but realize that it is not true of course.

There is no force. There is only good (Jesus). Vs evil (satan)

Most of you brainwashed by satan idiots believe in the force but don't believe in Jesus even though there is more evidence for Jesus outside of the Bible than any person in history! Jesus is real and gives you eternal life! Believing in the force and denying Jesus sends you to hell!


If you go to your grave denying Christ then you have chosen team Satan and will get to experience this thanks to George Lucas!


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As a Christian I can enjoy the movie but realize that it is not true of course.

There is no force. There is only good (Jesus). Vs evil (satan)

Most of you brainwashed by satan idiots believe in the force but don't believe in Jesus even though there is more evidence for Jesus outside of the Bible than any person in history! Jesus is real and gives you eternal life! Believing in the force and denying Jesus sends you to hell!


If you go to your grave denying Christ then you have chosen team Satan and will get to experience this thanks to George Lucas!



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you have no idea what you are talking about. and you call us brainwashed.
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:yodel:
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Hey bickle. DO you play for yoda`s team or vader`s team?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41956728


both sides want me

i haven't decide yet

i can play either role
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Is there even a decision?

With yodas team you experience profoundness not only in this life but the next.

With vaders team you are a god on earth but once you leave you must pay for your crimes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41956728





The One Creator plays both sides......or we would not exist.
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As a Christian I can enjoy the movie but realize that it is not true of course.

There is no force. There is only good (Jesus). Vs evil (satan)

Most of you brainwashed by satan idiots believe in the force but don't believe in Jesus even though there is more evidence for Jesus outside of the Bible than any person in history! Jesus is real and gives you eternal life! Believing in the force and denying Jesus sends you to hell!


If you go to your grave denying Christ then you have chosen team Satan and will get to experience this thanks to George Lucas!


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Arent there some books or witches you have to set on fire somewhere?
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As a Christian I can enjoy the movie but realize that it is not true of course.

There is no force. There is only good (Jesus). Vs evil (satan)

Most of you brainwashed by satan idiots believe in the force but don't believe in Jesus even though there is more evidence for Jesus outside of the Bible than any person in history! Jesus is real and gives you eternal life! Believing in the force and denying Jesus sends you to hell!


If you go to your grave denying Christ then you have chosen team Satan and will get to experience this thanks to George Lucas!
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Your thinking is so 1500 AD

You have NO IDEA the Nature of the Universe

And you feel the need to preach to us?'

Empty your cup grasshopper
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes
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Hey bickle. DO you play for yoda`s team or vader`s team?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41956728


both sides want me

i haven't decide yet

i can play either role
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Is there even a decision?

With yodas team you experience profoundness not only in this life but the next.

With vaders team you are a god on earth but once you leave you must pay for your crimes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41956728





The One Creator plays both sides......or we would not exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41570726


Ahh but do you know the reason why? Is there even a reason?

Source is both the yin and yang but why do they oppose eachother if in fact they are one?
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Because Lucas, like Luke, had a mentor in Irvin Kershner. Lucas would never have been able to pull Empire off on this own.
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really? did irvin mentor him on star wars too then? was irwin an initiate or something?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43532116


Star Wars and Empire are two VERY different movies. Here's an example of what Lucas wanted vs what Kershner did:

What Lucas wanted...
Leia: I love you!
Han: I love you too.

What Kershner did...
Leia: I love you!
Han: I know!

It was the Carbon Freeze scene when Princess Leia says, “I love you.” Han Solo’s response in the script was, “I love you, too.” I shot the line and it just didn’t seem right for the character of Han Solo. So we worked on the scene on the set. We kept trying different things and couldn’t get the right line. We were into the lunch break and I said to Harrison try it again and just do whatever comes to mind. That is when Harrison said the line, “I know.” After the take, I said to my assistant director, David Tomblin, “It’s a wrap.” David looked at me in disbelief and said something like, “Hold on, we just went to overtime. You’re not happy with that, are you?” And I said, yes, it’s the perfect Han Solo remark, and so we went to lunch. George saw the first cut and said, “Wait a minute, wait a minute. That’s not the line in the script.” I said ““I love you, too’ was not Han Solo.” Han Solo was a rebel. George felt that the audience would laugh. And I said, that’s wonderful, he is probably going to his death for all they know. We sat in the room and he thought about it. He then asked me, “Did you shoot the line in the script?” I said yes. So we agreed that we would do two preview screenings once the film was cut and set to music with the line in and then with the line out. At the first preview in San Francisco, the house broke up after Han Solo said I know. When the film was over, people came up and said that is the most wonderful line and it worked. So George decided not to have the second screening.
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I almost didn't free him from his frozen nap after that wisecrack.
I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain.
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from Joseph Campbell.
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As a Christian I can enjoy the movie but realize that it is not true of course.

There is no force. There is only good (Jesus). Vs evil (satan)

Most of you brainwashed by satan idiots believe in the force but don't believe in Jesus even though there is more evidence for Jesus outside of the Bible than any person in history! Jesus is real and gives you eternal life! Believing in the force and denying Jesus sends you to hell!


If you go to your grave denying Christ then you have chosen team Satan and will get to experience this thanks to George Lucas!



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If you had faith the size of a mustard grain, YOU COULD MOVE MOUNTAINS TOO. Think about that.
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As a Christian I can enjoy the movie but realize that it is not true of course.

There is no force. There is only good (Jesus). Vs evil (satan)

Most of you brainwashed by satan idiots believe in the force but don't believe in Jesus even though there is more evidence for Jesus outside of the Bible than any person in history! Jesus is real and gives you eternal life! Believing in the force and denying Jesus sends you to hell!


If you go to your grave denying Christ then you have chosen team Satan and will get to experience this thanks to George Lucas!



 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43271377


If you had faith the size of a mustard grain, YOU COULD MOVE MOUNTAINS TOO. Think about that.
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christians don't think. they are too busy getting on their high horse about how superior their religion is.

if they actually did do some thinking they'd realise the greek myth that they read literally actually backs up what Yoda and every other ancient scriptures talk about. THE FORCE.
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What about THX1138? He is a mason.
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^^^^ THIS. ^^^
Masons worship an alien/demon/ancient being that closely resembles Yoda with a similar name. Lucas based Yoda on that.