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I KNOW WHO THE ANTICHRIST IS!!!

 
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Well, I'm with you partially, but you don't see the trap door you are leaving open with your idea here:

The Antichrist is not the ego, it will be an actual physical person who proclaims himself to be "the messiah" but not christ. If the bible is true, then you have a problem. Because the anti-christ is going to say almost the same thing that you just did. He's going to proclaim that love will be the only way, and he himself will come as an angel of light.
It doesn't matter what you do as long as you love?
So how on earth are you going to distinguish between them?

The new world order is going to be all about love, but it will be a false love, brought by lucifer and his demonic pseudo angels/space brothers. And everyone who dares questioning his (lucifers) love is going to be brought to a re-education camp or elsewhere.

"it always gets worse before it gets good" good point there, that's almost how it's going to play out, but in real life it will play out like this:

it will get worse before it gets even worser, before betterment can start...

Remember: TPTB work in the scheme "ordo ab chao", order out of chaos, the phoenix that rises out of the ashes. Be sure, when the time is right and they let everything collapse, everyone is going to expect his or her messiah to come.
And it will be a universal messiah that everyone will be able to identify with... Strong delusion is coming people, we are going to feel like in a sci-fi movie and it's going to test the shit out of us all...

good ideas though, I sincerely hope you are right and that alone could solve all our problems...
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stupthrd
Luckily I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug regiment to keep my mind limber.
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Well, I'm with you partially, but you don't see the trap door you are leaving open with your idea here:

The Antichrist is not the ego, it will be an actual physical person who proclaims himself to be "the messiah" but not christ. If the bible is true, then you have a problem. Because the anti-christ is going to say almost the same thing that you just did. He's going to proclaim that love will be the only way, and he himself will come as an angel of light.
It doesn't matter what you do as long as you love?
So how on earth are you going to distinguish between them?

The new world order is going to be all about love, but it will be a false love, brought by lucifer and his demonic pseudo angels/space brothers. And everyone who dares questioning his (lucifers) love is going to be brought to a re-education camp or elsewhere.

"it always gets worse before it gets good" good point there, that's almost how it's going to play out, but in real life it will play out like this:

it will get worse before it gets even worser, before betterment can start...

Remember: TPTB work in the scheme "ordo ab chao", order out of chaos, the phoenix that rises out of the ashes. Be sure, when the time is right and they let everything collapse, everyone is going to expect his or her messiah to come.
And it will be a universal messiah that everyone will be able to identify with... Strong delusion is coming people, we are going to feel like in a sci-fi movie and it's going to test the shit out of us all...

good ideas though, I sincerely hope you are right and that alone could solve all our problems...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2044055


Thanks for your feedback. I should have made it more clear - the love I was talking about is selfless love, unconditional love. Many people think that I am talking about a love that you can get by definition, but rather love as a form of complete unification, where there is no lack or deficiency in Man. When I talked about the love that you have for God is the same as the love for the world, I am not talking about the world in regards to material possessions, rather the understanding that the world is merely a collection of perceptions of which you understand to be from yourself. All is the output of the mind. It is sad that so many people are waiting for a book to save them, rather than taking serious and dedicated efforts to help themselves. But the problem in most cases, is that as soon as someone hears the word "God" or "Jesus" or "Spirituality", they don't want to hear about it. As a society, we have been conditioned against these associations, and it is the ignorant that directly translate the Bible into real physical events, rather than understanding the deeper esoteric meanings behind what is written inside of it.

So many stories in the Bible have been used elsewhere, most even before the Bible was written. These stories are all the same, just different characters play out the roles. We keep getting told to wake up, to be reborn, to become like little children filled with awe and wonder with no boundaries to what's possible. To believe that those who don't follow the commands of the Bible will be sentenced to Hell - does that mean that a remote community which has never seen nor heard of the Bible are sentenced to death?

People all want a superhero - someone who comes and saves the day right when we all think that all hope is lost. But when will we look into ourselves and realise that WE ARE THE PROBLEM????

It really annoys me that the process of change is so damn simple, but nobody wants to hear it. Why can't they understand that the way we think determines if we live peacefully or in suffering? Did Jesus not say that if a tree produces no fruits then it should be cut down? Then why do we allow patterns of bad thinking that do nothing for us except cause suffering allow to grow like weeds within ourselves? It's the attitude of, "oh well, I guess I have to suffer until someone comes and saves me". That's the problem in the world. Its sickening what you animals do to each other. Who would want to save any of you? You are a destructive race, and like a virus you spread and kill everything you come into contact with.

Why can't any of you understand that salvation is up to you?
"The mind is endless. You lock me in a dark solitary cell, and to you, that's the end. To me, its the beginning. There's a world in there. There's a universe in there. I'm free". - Charles Manson
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Urftard
Luckily I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug regiment to keep my mind limber.
:Dudeism:
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 Quoting: El_Duderino


^^Like this you see!

The strong Delusion!
 Quoting: TruthMinion


:sethjesus:
Luckily I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug regiment to keep my mind limber.
:Dudeism:
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:williamchrist:
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 Quoting: El_Duderino


^^Like this you see!

The strong Delusion!
 Quoting: TruthMinion


You know, England went quite for a while, but after the Olympics and then Will and Kate, and now Kate's baby, a lot of interest has gone back to them. Considering that England is definitely the "most watched" country on Earth (Orwell would be rolling in his grave), and that the Queen owns a lot of landmass (especially 95% empty "Corporation Australia"), I reckon that they could come out and become a new global powerhouse. Especially with very young new royal leaders (Will and Kate), and now a new baby King or Queen, and a royalty that is still in power to this day even after all of those years of colonizing nearly every country on Earth, I think we should be turning our eyes away from America and onto England.
"The mind is endless. You lock me in a dark solitary cell, and to you, that's the end. To me, its the beginning. There's a world in there. There's a universe in there. I'm free". - Charles Manson
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The antichrist is the fat guy from the old Bartles and James commercials.
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Snooki's son,clearly hinted in bible.
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its obummer^
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Remember: TPTB work in the scheme "ordo ab chao", order out of chaos, the phoenix that rises out of the ashes. Be sure, when the time is right and they let everything collapse, everyone is going to expect his or her messiah to come.
And it will be a universal messiah that everyone will be able to identify with... Strong delusion is coming people, we are going to feel like in a sci-fi movie and it's going to test the shit out of us all...

good ideas though, I sincerely hope you are right and that alone could solve all our problems...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2044055


The strong delusion is what we live today.

"Royalty" as something to pay attention to. To follow.

When perhaps, if the internet "literature" is right, these families are the 13 Satanic Families, but somehow their "poshness" wash away the blood of sacrificial children.

The delusion is about taking THEM as "role-models".

The "Think and Grow Rich" planetary obsession.
 Quoting: TruthMinion


I'm sorry to disagree with you. First of all, the talk of the 13 Families isn't something that came up just on the internet, this was known before. When I speak about "delusion" I speak about the delusion that is mentioned in 2 Thessalonians. The strong delusion is coming before the day of the lord and will devide the whole earth into 2 factions. This hasn't happened yet. And if this, (taking THEM as "role-models") is gods strong delusion, then I'm sorry, that's way to easy. Too many people see this already, but don't see the dephts of it. The delusion he is speaking of is from other proportions. It will even test even most fundamental christians. What it is, we just can guess. I personally believe, that the end delusion will be the great, very well planned and sophisticated alien-new-age-lie... Evolution, ascension (VS.) Creationism, descent.

peace
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The ego is AN antichrist but not THE antichrist. Anyone who remains in ego, not die to it as Christ commanded, will worship the antichrist when he appears because they are of the same spirit.
 Quoting: Flight 815


You're sooo right about this. We actually have many enemies. The Devil, Death, and the flesh (who is Me,My,Self, I, and the worst is YOU). When all of these are in agreement it is our YOU that finally makes the decision to follow hate, evil, war, etc.. Therefore resist the devil, mortify the flesh and let not the LOVE you have within you wax cold.
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The Antichrist is going to be Dalai Lama

A guy from the east with love from the west.. He will look so innocent :)
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Remember: TPTB work in the scheme "ordo ab chao", order out of chaos, the phoenix that rises out of the ashes. Be sure, when the time is right and they let everything collapse, everyone is going to expect his or her messiah to come.
And it will be a universal messiah that everyone will be able to identify with... Strong delusion is coming people, we are going to feel like in a sci-fi movie and it's going to test the shit out of us all...

good ideas though, I sincerely hope you are right and that alone could solve all our problems...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2044055


The strong delusion is what we live today.

"Royalty" as something to pay attention to. To follow.

When perhaps, if the internet "literature" is right, these families are the 13 Satanic Families, but somehow their "poshness" wash away the blood of sacrificial children.

The delusion is about taking THEM as "role-models".

The "Think and Grow Rich" planetary obsession.
 Quoting: TruthMinion


I'm sorry to disagree with you. First of all, the talk of the 13 Families isn't something that came up just on the internet, this was known before. When I speak about "delusion" I speak about the delusion that is mentioned in 2 Thessalonians. The strong delusion is coming before the day of the lord and will devide the whole earth into 2 factions. This hasn't happened yet. And if this, (taking THEM as "role-models") is gods strong delusion, then I'm sorry, that's way to easy. Too many people see this already, but don't see the dephts of it. The delusion he is speaking of is from other proportions. It will even test even most fundamental christians. What it is, we just can guess. I personally believe, that the end delusion will be the great, very well planned and sophisticated alien-new-age-lie... Evolution, ascension (VS.) Creationism, descent.

peace
 Quoting: AGES 2044055


It is not "to easy". How many people you know who believe in conspiracies "theories"??

Today is very fitting. What do you see people drooling over today?? The birth of another "royal" baby.

Masonry, royalty, papacy. ALL THESE ARE THE STRONG DELUSIONS.

Didn't christians believe that the Devil was the "Prince of this World"???

So the problem is not now this world. But the other world???

We will then CONTINUE to live under Satanic "leadership", while bitching NOW about "aliens being demons".

So Demons don't live with us anymore... Its all up there!
 Quoting: TruthMinion


I agree with you totally that those things delude people, no question about that. But this is NOT "The Strong Delusion". We still have a choice what to believe in,
though the question is for how long? An event is being manifactured, so when it happens, everybody will have to choose sides with no turning back. Only two options, either your fully with the NWO or you are not (that encompasses their one world new age-ish religion). Masonry, royalty and the papacy are delusions and are tools that lucifer uses to bring about the big plan. Masons believe in lucifer as their bringer of light, they think they are priviliged to serve him with their talents. They are just tools, puppets if you will.

Of course, there's still many people who believe blindly to whatever the government says. My point is, that there will be only 2 factions in the end, this still is has not happened. Those two factions will be as opposite as day and night.

The delusions you are speaking about are just forerunners, pre-programming for the big delusion. Once your brainwashed to believe that masonry is good, the papacy is gods will and that ET's who posses people are actually our friends to help us, it is likely that this person will fall for the big delusion...

oh and btw, demons have always lived among us and disguised themselves many many times in the history of mankind. What people don't see is, that this time instead of portraing them blatantly to be "gods" as in ancient past, they'll come as highly evolved "spiritual" aliens, which of course fits more our Zeitgeist than some weird god creature...
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In Matthew 22:36-40, ""Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”".

Firstly, what do these two statements tell us are the two most important law's under God? We are told to devote ourselves completely unto God, and to love all things as we would ourselves. It is simply a message of love. Love for all things. There is no real distinction between the loving devotion of God, and the devotion of our neighbour, for when we develop and embrace love, it is equal unto all things. So Jesus should have said, "The greatest commandment is to love all things unconditionally". Is it not interesting that most of the other major religions, such as Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, etc, have the development of love as their central teaching? The Christians spend all of their time looking for signs of the apocalypse, but in doing so, they create huge fear vortexes around themselves and around others - forgetting and leaving aside the MOST IMPORTANT and ONLY teaching of Jesus and the other teachers, LOVE. That is the only thing that you must nurture and develop. Not be obsessed with memorising the Bible with past events. Forget everything except the development of Love. It cannot go against your teachings or your beliefs, because love is equal unto all. The love you develop is the same love you have for the world, and the same love you have for God.

Now, on the note of the "antichrist", of which is mentioned only by John in "1 John 2:18, 2:22, 4:3" and "2 John 7", we learn that the antichrist will be at his greatest power at the "last hour". Isn't that the same as saying "it always gets worse before it gets good", or that "it is only on the precipice of destruction that something changes"? The Antichrist is referred only to he that deceives and goes against the words of God. And what are the words of God? Love. Therefore, he that does not love is against love. See how that all starts to make sense?

Did Jesus not say to NOT look for signs? In the Gospel of Thomas he says, "He that finds the interpretation of my words will not taste death, but will have everlasting life". Therefore, he who is able to interpret the teachings of Christ, will find the Grail to eternity. He is telling us that we must subjectively experience the foundations of love, not be part of the sheeple that are being led to slaughter by blind shepherds.

WAKE UP!

What stops us from loving in this life? It is not circumstance, or other people, or any external event. It is our thoughts that cause us to suffer and to push us away from love. Our thoughts create our false identity that we call the Ego. It is the Ego that stops us from developing love. It is our ego that causes us to become ignorant and stupid.

THE ANTICHRIST IS THE EGO!

I have another post on here that tries to explain my theory on the destruction of suffering -

Thread: WHAT YOU DO NOT KNOW

All we must do in this life is uproot our suffering, eliminate all forms of fear-based thinking, and expand ourselves with love.

Nothing more, nothing less.
 Quoting: MichaelJohnToth



GREAT post - most truth I've read on this site in a while.


gratitude_


I believe the same concept applies to the "second coming of Christ" : it's not about an individual being reincarnating and coming to save us all. It's about the Christ Consciousness being 'born' anew in all of us who would wish to recognize it, and that awareness can 'save' us from the 'antichrist,' which is the ego, as you pointed out.

And I believe that the tool the 'antichrist' uses to keep us all in bondage, the physical manifestation of evil itself, is good ol' money, in all it's forms.

"For love of MONEY is the root of ALL evil."

The Christ Consciousness allows us to see that money is NOT necessary - allows us to see that there is another way, and will give us the power to realize the manifestation of that way. At least that's what I'm praying for!

Oh, and the Christ Consciousness could also be described as Buddha Nature, The Great Spirit, Atman - just different words used to describe the same thing, as you pointed out so very eloquently.
"It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak up, and remove all doubt." ~ Abraham Lincoln
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Okay...once aaaaa-gin...

Who is "the son of perdition"?
THE ONLY ONE SO FAR TO BE TRIED AND CONVICTED?
You know...sentenced to death...to perish.

Ummmmmm, could it be Satan? churchlady Yes!
That old dragon? churchlady Yes!
Lucifer? churchlady Yes!
All one in the same, dead man walking? YES!
Now you're getting it!

Okay, so now you know the son, Satan, that was sentenced to perish, Satan, Lucifer, IS the ONE who is PISSED OFF AND IS THE prince of this air...realm...Earth...Earth Age...flesh realm...flesh age...wanting to maintain this existence and circumvent Jesus' WONDERFUL, MIRACULOUS RETURN.

Get it yet?
Okay...whose gonna show up pretending to be Jesus?
Whose gonna show up first and be the instead of christ?
Whose the anti instead of christ?
Whose the anti christ?

Say it, say it, you can say it...Lucifer.
Yep, you got it, now you know, and no, he ain't climbing in someone's body...he's got his own bod. Guarantee that.

Pray for our troops, pray for the peace of Jerusalem...
Pray the Lord doesn't tarry.
churchlady
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1450790


^^^ This is the most correct. There are can be, and have been many anti-christs. Satan is a coward and will use human mortals to advance his causes, while at the same time deceiving the sheeple at various points in history into thinking he has been "found" and then "defeated." Then he does it again.

Jesus and the apostles could have ran the shell game and drove the persecutors crazy. With the "I am Spartacus" tactic. But he did not. When asked if he was the messiah, the king of the Jews, the way, the truth and the light, etc/ he said I am what you say.

Anti-christ does equal the beast. The beast is anti-christ, but the anti-christs are not the beast itself. The beast has much more power.
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In Matthew 22:36-40, ""Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”".

Firstly, what do these two statements tell us are the two most important law's under God? We are told to devote ourselves completely unto God, and to love all things as we would ourselves. It is simply a message of love. Love for all things. There is no real distinction between the loving devotion of God, and the devotion of our neighbour, for when we develop and embrace love, it is equal unto all things. So Jesus should have said, "The greatest commandment is to love all things unconditionally". Is it not interesting that most of the other major religions, such as Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, etc, have the development of love as their central teaching? The Christians spend all of their time looking for signs of the apocalypse, but in doing so, they create huge fear vortexes around themselves and around others - forgetting and leaving aside the MOST IMPORTANT and ONLY teaching of Jesus and the other teachers, LOVE. That is the only thing that you must nurture and develop. Not be obsessed with memorising the Bible with past events. Forget everything except the development of Love. It cannot go against your teachings or your beliefs, because love is equal unto all. The love you develop is the same love you have for the world, and the same love you have for God.

Now, on the note of the "antichrist", of which is mentioned only by John in "1 John 2:18, 2:22, 4:3" and "2 John 7", we learn that the antichrist will be at his greatest power at the "last hour". Isn't that the same as saying "it always gets worse before it gets good", or that "it is only on the precipice of destruction that something changes"? The Antichrist is referred only to he that deceives and goes against the words of God. And what are the words of God? Love. Therefore, he that does not love is against love. See how that all starts to make sense?

Did Jesus not say to NOT look for signs? In the Gospel of Thomas he says, "He that finds the interpretation of my words will not taste death, but will have everlasting life". Therefore, he who is able to interpret the teachings of Christ, will find the Grail to eternity. He is telling us that we must subjectively experience the foundations of love, not be part of the sheeple that are being led to slaughter by blind shepherds.

WAKE UP!

What stops us from loving in this life? It is not circumstance, or other people, or any external event. It is our thoughts that cause us to suffer and to push us away from love. Our thoughts create our false identity that we call the Ego. It is the Ego that stops us from developing love. It is our ego that causes us to become ignorant and stupid.

THE ANTICHRIST IS THE EGO!

I have another post on here that tries to explain my theory on the destruction of suffering -

Thread: WHAT YOU DO NOT KNOW

All we must do in this life is uproot our suffering, eliminate all forms of fear-based thinking, and expand ourselves with love.

Nothing more, nothing less.
 Quoting: MichaelJohnToth


almost OP. but you have to remember the antichrist comes in the name of christ and fools even the elect.

there is only one who does that. Religion!

satan/the beast is the ego.
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none can explain what i carry
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As a Canadian, I've noticed that Obama seems to make any and every concept about 100x lamer by his mere association with it.

rolleyes
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He ruined Spider-Man comics for my nephew by appearing on the cover.

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