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Cop Harrases Man For Watching His Grandchildren Play at the Park

 
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First of all, idiots, it doesn't matter that the children were his grandchildren and not his children, the children were in his care at the time. THEREFORE, he was responsible for them, THEREFORE had he been doing anything other than watching them, he would not have been doing his job.

If you want to debate semantics, you better go take a serum to increase your IQ by a lot, cause you are just too fucking dumb to do it effectively.

As a matter of fact, I am not a child molester. I am a divorced father of four children. Yes, unlike all you brain-washed teenagers that are shillin for the government and not even getting paid for it, cause again, you are just too fucking dumb, I actually have children.

Unlike most divorced fathers, I have my kids every single weekend. It's their mom that I wanted away from, not them. I pick them up every Friday evening and drop them off every sunday evening. It's bad enough the time that I cannot be with them. How would I possibly justify not being with them for all of the time that I am able to be?

The point is, I take my four children to the park practically every weekend. You know why? Because that is what they want to do, and I love them. Now, I am only 35, but I'm still too damn old too run around with them on what amounts to playground equipment these days. So you know what I do?

I sit on the bench and I watch them. It is my responsibility to know where they are and what they are doing at all times. I see them fall and get hurt if they fall and get hurt. I stop them if they try to run off. No one in their right fucking mind would try to run off with them when I am there.

Sitting on the bench and watching them is fucking boring. It's hot. Time is ticking backwards. Did I mention how god damn boring it is? Yet I do it. Because it's my job.

Because unlike you spoiled-ass can't dress yourselves for shit tweenagers fresh offa momma's tit and now you fucking know everything except for shit about anything, I understand responsibility, and I value integrity.

Now get back to your scripts, tools.

Cause daddy said so.
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07/22/2013 08:28 PM
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Well, hmmm. With level 3 sex offenders creeping everywhere, it is not a shock that an older man watching children could be seen as suspicious. Not everyone constantly carries their wallet when going to a park. He told them his name and address. The police could have simply confirmed he was grandpa by asking the kids.
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You can get arrested as a "sex offender" for pissing on a bush when nobody is looking these days. Not an exaggeration.
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07/22/2013 08:30 PM
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Toward the end of the video:

Cop: "Go watch your grandkids."

Grandfather: "Oh, shut up."

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
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07/22/2013 08:38 PM
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Let me chime in for a minute. First of all, NO ONE saw the entire encounter, period. Assumptions are being made on both sides. The cops could have handled this better, they appear younger. Lets call them a little green. I saw no verification as to the children and grandpa relationship either. Protection of our kids is FIRST priority. Grandpa should have recognized this. I blame both parties, but the cops could and should have approached situation better. Grandpa should appreciate someone is worried about the kids.
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07/22/2013 08:39 PM
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Honestly, I can see both sides. It's a shame when the environment in this country has gotten to where an older man at a park where (his) kids are playing is suspicious.

On the other hand, the police don't make the rules. They have to respond to a report of a "suspicious person". They are forced to check up on the situation and, like the officer said, make sure it's not someone with a history of child abuse/molestation/predation. Better safe than sorry, especially with something as simple as merely doing a quick I.D. check.

But I do very much understand the grandfather's anger, disgust, frustration, etc. Makes you wary to even leave the house anymore. Anyone could call for anything. Partly to blame is: "If you see something, say something." Did our Federal Government REALLY need to initiate a program about that? Like if we truly saw something suspicious before this program was initiated, nobody would make a phone call? LOL Ridiculous. More fear. More intrusion. More control.

Now if this was the Trayvon/Zimmerman case, the person who called the cops wouldn't have called the cops, but would instead have stalked and harassed this grandfather, potentially culminating in a physical confrontation in which the stalker/harasser got his ass kicked and then used a concealed firearm to kill the grandfather.
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07/22/2013 08:41 PM
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Show your ID now! " what you haven't got your ID"??



When history repeats its self, do you notice??
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The whole thing could of been avoided if he would of just stayed in his car.
Compliment me with something my father would laugh at and my mother would believe.

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07/22/2013 08:54 PM
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Back in my day we would fight the cops in the street whenever they got out of line. They wouldn't even really come into our neighborhood because people didn't like them.

The last two and a half generations of "Americans" are soft pussies and because of that the cops are out of line because they no longer fear attack from young people.

If you are under 40, the new "Americca" is your fault for being a limp wristed queer.


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First of all, idiots, it doesn't matter that the children were his grandchildren and not his children, the children were in his care at the time. THEREFORE, he was responsible for them, THEREFORE had he been doing anything other than watching them, he would not have been doing his job.

If you want to debate semantics, you better go take a serum to increase your IQ by a lot, cause you are just too fucking dumb to do it effectively.

As a matter of fact, I am not a child molester. I am a divorced father of four children. Yes, unlike all you brain-washed teenagers that are shillin for the government and not even getting paid for it, cause again, you are just too fucking dumb, I actually have children.

Unlike most divorced fathers, I have my kids every single weekend. It's their mom that I wanted away from, not them. I pick them up every Friday evening and drop them off every sunday evening. It's bad enough the time that I cannot be with them. How would I possibly justify not being with them for all of the time that I am able to be?

The point is, I take my four children to the park practically every weekend. You know why? Because that is what they want to do, and I love them. Now, I am only 35, but I'm still too damn old too run around with them on what amounts to playground equipment these days. So you know what I do?

I sit on the bench and I watch them. It is my responsibility to know where they are and what they are doing at all times. I see them fall and get hurt if they fall and get hurt. I stop them if they try to run off. No one in their right fucking mind would try to run off with them when I am there.

Sitting on the bench and watching them is fucking boring. It's hot. Time is ticking backwards. Did I mention how god damn boring it is? Yet I do it. Because it's my job.

Because\\ unlike you spoiled-ass can't dress you\rselves for shit tweenagers fresh offa momma's tit and now you fucking know everything except for shit about anything, I understand responsibility, and I value integrity.

Now get back to your scripts, tools.

Cause daddy said so.
 Quoting: Indestructable 43877061


/\ definitely rams children in a basement somewhere.
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07/22/2013 09:03 PM
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Back in my day we would fight the cops in the street whenever they got out of line. They wouldn't even really come into our neighborhood because people didn't like them.

The last two and a half generations of "Americans" are soft pussies and because of that the cops are out of line because they no longer fear attack from young people.

If you are under 40, the new "Americca" is your fault for being a limp wristed queer.


yoda
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Talks like a quivering fag....
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07/22/2013 09:14 PM
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LOL stupid cops

"hey kids"....

"yes"

"do you know this guy"

"yes hes our grampa".....end of line

should dock the cop a days pay...
 Quoting: porky pig strikes agian 43852526


bingo. No need to even approach the citizen grandpa. Did the snitch get told "she" was wrong? Fact is they want to encourage snitch behavior and dont care about humiliating innocents. Snitch away girls, first one who does gets to suck a tasty lollipop...
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Let me chime in for a minute. First of all, NO ONE saw the entire encounter, period. Assumptions are being made on both sides. The cops could have handled this better, they appear younger. Lets call them a little green. I saw no verification as to the children and grandpa relationship either. Protection of our kids is FIRST priority. Grandpa should have recognized this. I blame both parties, but the cops could and should have approached situation better. Grandpa should appreciate someone is worried about the kids.
 Quoting: HOLDFAST


Like "hello sir,,, we got a report of a suspicious person in the park watching kids. Have you seen anything like that?"

"Is that your kid, there?"

"Do you mind if I ask them if you are related?"

"Thank you sir, have a nice day."
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07/22/2013 09:21 PM
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None of this,,, "hey! Show me your ID, citizen. Right now, or your busted!"
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07/22/2013 09:27 PM
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I think the guy was in the right at first, then he became arrogant and followed the cops.

He should have just left it alone, the cops were checking out a call made on him. They asked for ID..let it alone. They didnt harass him.

I NEVER stick up for the cops, they are usually jack boots, but this time, they did nothing wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32599091


Bullshit. The cops should be afraid of lawful citizens, and criminals should be afraid of both. If you illegally ask me to do something and I have a camera, I'm following you back to your squad car or your moron mobile or whatever.
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07/22/2013 09:29 PM
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bump for the United Police States of America
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Show your ID now! " what you haven't got your ID"??



When history repeats its self, do you notice??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26578528


As in Nazi Germany, in some states if you don't produce ID when a person wearing the magic costume orders you to, you may be arrested.
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07/22/2013 09:33 PM
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I think the guy was in the right at first, then he became arrogant and followed the cops.

He should have just left it alone, the cops were checking out a call made on him. They asked for ID..let it alone. They didnt harass him.

I NEVER stick up for the cops, they are usually jack boots, but this time, they did nothing wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32599091


Bullshit. The cops should be afraid of lawful citizens, and criminals should be afraid of both. If you illegally ask me to do something and I have a camera, I'm following you back to your squad car or your moron mobile or whatever.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32853214




That's right. Chase them down while they egress back to the donut shop. That's BASIC military training...

Grandpa knows MEN fight cops when they get out of line. Years ago people would have jumped those cops, kicked in the roofs on their cars, while kicking, punching, and throwing bottles at the enemy.
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Well, hmmm. With level 3 sex offenders creeping everywhere, it is not a shock that an older man watching children could be seen as suspicious. Not everyone constantly carries their wallet when going to a park. He told them his name and address. The police could have simply confirmed he was grandpa by asking the kids.
 Quoting: Janine69


You can get arrested as a "sex offender" for pissing on a bush when nobody is looking these days. Not an exaggeration.
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Back in my day we would fight the cops in the street whenever they got out of line. They wouldn't even really come into our neighborhood because people didn't like them.

The last two and a half generations of "Americans" are soft pussies and because of that the cops are out of line because they no longer fear attack from young people.

If you are under 40, the new "Americca" is your fault for being a limp wristed queer.


yoda
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That's funny because there are old people who say the opposite, that people are less afraid of cops these days.

this is an article from a blog called crabbyoldfart which has a list entitled "the problem with young people today is"
and one of the articles entitled "theyre damned fearless" says "Back when I was a boy, young people lived in a constant state of terror. We were frightened of our parents, TERRIFIED OF POLICE, petrified of a vengeful God and lived with the ever-present dread that a misspelled word or wayward spit ball would incite the wrath of a strap-happy teacher." and"They know it’s a damned crime for anyone to raise a hand to them, say a harsh word or even give them a sideways glance so they feel free to THUMB THEIR PIERCED NOSES AT POLICE, sass their elders, fornicate like crack-addled rabbits and generally behave as if they are above the law and immune from any form of recourse."
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So whats the deal with people giving opposite accounts of the past?
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07/23/2013 12:47 PM
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Thanks to feminist monsters and the pedophile Green party members.
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07/23/2013 02:42 PM
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So the cops want to see his ID because he looks like Herbert the pervert, and the problem is what?
 Quoting: BRIEF



The old man was right, there was no reason to suspect he was, or had, committed a crime... the cops had no justification to ask for his ID.

The cops could have watched the guy and if he did anything that justified a stop and check, that would be a different story.

However, the guy handled is extremely poorly... and considering the police were, in effect, protecting his own grandchildren -- the guy acted like a total dick.

The last couple of minutes -- when he followed them back to their car and engaged them... most cops would have charged him with harassment.
 Quoting: Carnac The Magnificent


sorry but an incident had been reported about him. they had no choice but to investigate.
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yes, but they asked for his ID and they said they would arrest him if he didn't show it....that is the part where he decided to start filming it. Why do they have the right to arrest him if he didn't show his ID?
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07/24/2013 12:23 AM
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My elderly father, when he could still walk down the street God bless him, kept being victimized by police - who some idiotic neighbor lady kept calling to say she thought there was an old man who looked lost wandering down the street. My father had down HIS OWN street to the park many times over many years. He had to stop because of some freakin' nose-in-everyone's-business "do-gooder."

Society is OUT OF TOUCH. Harrassing the good people while the bad ones go about their business leisurely.
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Totally unacceptable.
Sorry for your Dad, having to spend his precious time avoiding what made him happy.





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