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"It has served us well, this myth of Christ".

 
Anonymous Coward
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11/11/2009 03:26 PM
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Re: "It has served us well, this myth of Christ".
Leo X never said that. It actually came earlier in a polemical work by John Bale called, "Acta Romanorum Pontificum." How this was later attributed to Leo X is unknown.
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Re: "It has served us well, this myth of Christ".
Jesus was a Freemason, his being 'raised from the dead' after three days, is actually a misinterpretation of the Masonic Third Degree where the Mason is Raised From Death.

The Catholic Church knows this and this is why they avoid the Masons, the Knights Tempar also knew this as fact.

The Catholic church have been perpetuating this lie for centuries.
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09/25/2010 05:56 AM
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How can a church be wealthy ? Are we not taught Jesus gave away all of his worldly possessions ? The wealth the Catholic church has horded beggers belief and it is more likely they will be judged than those who follow ?
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09/25/2010 06:00 AM
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Re: "It has served us well, this myth of Christ".
Jesus was a Freemason, his being 'raised from the dead' after three days, is actually a misinterpretation of the Masonic Third Degree where the Mason is Raised From Death.

The Catholic Church knows this and this is why they avoid the Masons, the Knights Tempar also knew this as fact.

The Catholic church have been perpetuating this lie for centuries.
 Quoting: So Mote it Be 1063006


Friday the 13th ... the day the Catholic church order the simulateneus murder of the Templars .... hmmm ... all in the name of power .... I mean God !!
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Re: "It has served us well, this myth of Christ".
There is no myth.

Even secular scholars who do not believe that Christ was God's son, or the Messiah will tell you...

...there was a historical Jesus.

History, archaelogical evidence proves it.


I think what you are trying to say is that Christ was not the Savior that people of faith believe Him to be.

Which is understandable. Only faith can take you from the provable historical Jesus to the realization that Christ was more than a historical figure.
 Quoting: River7471

What proof? There is no extra biblical evidence that Jesus ever existed.
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12/25/2010 06:11 AM
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Re: "It has served us well, this myth of Christ".
But you see,there is evidence that is non Roman.The very well documented Church of Jerusalem with Yeshua's brother James as bishop is one.
Although the quote is commonly attributed without source documentation to Pope Leo X, it is believed t...o have originated in a satirical piece by a Protestant controversialist named John Bale (1495-1563) titled "The Pageant of the Popes" (source). Bale wrote:
Quote:For on a time when a cardinall Bembus did move a question out of the Gospell, the Pope gave him a very contemptuous answer saying: "All ages can testifie enough howe profitable that fable of Christe hath ben to us and our companie." __________________
"If anyone comes to me, I want to lead them to Him." --St. Edith Stein


But ironically,linguistically and contextually,there is some truth to that statement.Kristos and ha Mashiach are two different beings.Yeshua ha Mashiach and Iesous Chrestos. God's anointed salvation is the former and the "good"pagan god of ...healing of the Roman Empires "Church" that it hijacked from the Desposyni:Heirs of the Lord Yeshua. [link to homelessokc.newsvine.com] More whatever
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hummbird Who cares what stupid people say and think. Christianity's so simple that even young children understand it's truth.

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Re: "It has served us well, this myth of Christ".
Question: Isn't there documentation regarding Pontius Pilate/Herod and the rebellion of the Jews at that time that includes references to Jesus? Even if it is that he was an upstart that was disturbing the balance between Rome and the Jews?
From a political perspective--Bible does not count here. I am looking for another historical reference in history.
 Quoting: Lady in the Lighthouse 122133


As a PI, and as a reader of the bible, we must look at the recorded evidence. Why were Mary and Joseph going back to Bethlehem, Answer; to be counted in the census. Probably means they were to be taxed as well.
Romans were notorious for their record keeping prowess. Where is this census? Where's the tax rolls. Is there any evidence what-so-ever of Mary or Joseph documenting them as citizens at all? Somewhere there must be......or must have been at one time, these records.
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Re: "It has served us well, this myth of Christ".
It has served us well, this myth of Christ.

* Widely attributed to Leo X, the earliest known source of this statement is actually a polemical work by the Protestant John Bale, the anti-Catholic Acta Romanorum Pontificum, which was first translated from Latin into English as The Pageant of the Popes in 1574: "For on a time when a cardinall Bembus did move a question out of the Gospell, the Pope gave him a very contemptuous answer saying: All ages can testifie enough how profitable that fable of Christe hath ben to us and our companie." The Pope in this case being Leo X.
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06/13/2011 07:50 PM
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Re: "It has served us well, this myth of Christ".
the pope came from paganism

i doubt if any pagan has ever known Christ


Jesus Christianity was formed from pagan christs. You simply refuse to accept this fact.
 Quoting: Æon

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Who is the one which history's reconing piviots upon?
Who is the one that hundreds of thousands willingly endured tortures and death rather than deny Him. After all its only a word.
Who is the one that is both savior and judge depending on the choice of the individuals heart?
Prove that any of your gods pre-date 2000 years ago with actual dated texts.
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And who was the one who tortured and maimed the none believers an believers of other faiths? yes you got that right CHRISTIANITY was the one who tortured and maimed the none believers and believers to convert them to christianity (thou shall not kill????) Religion of any sort any faith just start wars in fact 99.9% of wars are started by religion----Fact.
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06/13/2011 07:51 PM
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Re: "It has served us well, this myth of Christ".
Yep, and we have been getting threatened with that one for how long? scratching
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i am back already
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06/13/2011 07:53 PM
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Re: "It has served us well, this myth of Christ".
"myth" doesn't many any of it is untrue...

myth: A traditional story, esp. one concerning the early history of a people or explaining some natural or social phenomenon, and typically involving supernatural beings or events.
Total Protonic Reversal...
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06/13/2011 07:56 PM

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Re: "It has served us well, this myth of Christ".
"It has served us well, this myth of Christ" which was reportedly stated by Pope Leo X.


 Quoting: AK AK KITTY


lol while I'm no Catholic,the above quote is fake. Don't feel bad OP,many people who do no study beyond glancing at anti-Christian web sites have fallen for this one

The quote is from a satirical work of John Bale, a sixteenth century English playwright, entitled The Pageant of Popes

For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

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