RED ALERT!!! It's boiling inside Fukushima Unit No. 3

Won't stop a chain reaction.

The earthquake caused the reactors to meltdown. All the cooling / circulation pipes were already broken by the ground movement. This was before the tsunami deluged the standby pumps and generators.

It is believed four of the six nuclear cores melted through the pressure containment vessel through the building concrete floors on into the earth.

They have been pumping in sea water from the very start.

Like Handford, it's just a waiting game, radiation will leach into the ground water and on into the sea.

Now it's just a case of letting it dilute into the sea, and for young people to abandon those areas that are highly contaminated.

In the mean time, the Japanese government is spreading the dry waste across the country so as to blur future cancer hot-spots.

Meanwhile... Back at the ranch...

OP, what is your timeframe before the average Schmo realizes its over?

3 cores.

let's see 3-5 years before major incline in cancers and sickness... (hidden under the guise of different excuses)

5-10 years where they cannot hide it.. but try

20 years, and people will come to accept that it has happened... from there is the eternal question mark

OP, what is your timeframe before the average Schmo realizes its over?



About the same time they realize that O is not a good prsident...

Now, that's worth a second reading.
Quite unnerving - the semantics and hesitations in it are so surreal that it takes the atomic cake, even from North Korea's ambiguous, nonsensical rethorics. The text construct is self-accusatory, if anyone still doubts TEPCO's lack of integrity. We can see that they not only fear to name verifiable events objectively, but they blatantly lie, too, ridiculously falling in contradiction.

"Gone with the Wind", nuclear-verse, for real.

^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^unfortunately^^^^^^^^^
and thank you for staying on top of things, some of us do not have the time to investigate thoroughly enough to weed out all the bullshit.

IT's the worst kind of nightmare
you cannot wake up from ...
and its happening in our lifetime ...

such a beautiful world

being destroyed by the greedy .

mad world

and most CANNOT EVEN see whats going on around them or have a clue of whats happening .


My Grandmother warned me in the 70s when a nuclear plant was being built by her house ...

- she said to me , " they are building them all over the place ,

just you wait and see what happens, not in my lifetime

but you will see in your lifetime "

her words haunt me .

that thank you in my last post was intended for citezenperth

Here is an article from the Japan Times.
[link to www.japantimes.co.jp]
in the same article TEPCO says the amount of radioactive water dumped into the ocean would not have a impact on the ocean....ok they did say "limited"

then TEPCO says
"a fish found with radiation more than 2,500 times the legal limit had been caught in a port on Fukushima No. 1's premises."

the article also refers to a meltdown.

just wish there was some truth.

what is fact and what is fiction in this quote?

OP did you listen to this?

Dr Atkins is also a member here on GLP and he was calling for everyone to come up with a solution.

But he was also suggesting people move out of the northen hemisphere!

Now there in is some wisdom. It, this world and us along with it has always been and will always be in his hands. Those who truly know this when necessary can comfortably rest on that truth and enjoy the moments of each passing day as none are a guarantee.

This world has underwent many cleansings over billions of our years by different methods. When one contemplates this how can we ignore that our time will come and go.

That was at the request of the US government.

Obama called Japan and asked that they minimize any threat that may seen by the public and by asking for outside help that would have elevated the exposure.

Obama's number 1 concern was that the stock price of TEPCO not drop because of all of the American stock holders.

True story.

That falls in line with hillary guaranteeing no disruption in japanese exports to the us.
Also with the increase in allowable radiation contamination in goods.

How peachy for us..

Big O loves his nukular, don't he..?

Last Edited by Waterbug on 07/24/2013 08:32 AM

Plutonium enriched fuel melting down.

But the plethora of team now is very ominous. Either they JUST NOW realized a fault in the cooling system OR the corium that melted over is reaching water.


I say this, if more then 1 reactor melted down....unit 3 would go first. Because it operates WAY hotter due to the plutonium.

Obviously, when tshtf in fukushima, it will come from reactor 3. Unfortunately, it could kill almost all of us.

If you pump water onto a nuclear reaction, it will fire it up and increase the reaction.

Because the water, when it hits the heat, flash steams and that carries a unit of heat away from the corium.

As the heat is pulled away, the atoms get closer and the corium contracts. Making more fission events per neutron release. Which makes more heat, which flash boils the water faster (from radiant heat) which carries more heat away.


As the corium descends into the ground it approaches ground water. That water will begin to steam long before the corium actually comes in contact.

Because there will be an ENORMOUS steam/mox particle explosion when it does make contact. The corium is the bullet, the hole it burned is the rifle and the water is the charge. It will fire MOX fuel into the atmosphere, high into the atmosphere.

Which could potentially kill EVERYONE down wind for hundreds of miles before the plutonium drops outs.

What's teh timeframe you are talking about?

"I was more scared when the spent fuel pool went up.. research that.... there was doom right there... even more so than the hydrogen.... doom is doom at this scale.....

not insta-doom, as procreated by the TEPCO employee Atom-Boy, with 'why are there not thousands of dead', and spuriously slagging at the nay-sayers.. but we have our creeping inevitable doom unfolding before us, and nothing yet, anyone can do...."


This opened my eyes to how reckless the industry (not only Japan) has been.

There were measures that could have been taken that would have prevented the problems that we are seeing.

The spent fuel could have been housed on site in stainless steel vaults while they figured out what to do with it.

There was no long term solution for maintaining power after the plant was shut down. The generators got flooded, and then there was only about a days worth of emergency backup. I find this unbelievable.

It all comes down to money, crazy, crazy world.

Dr Atkins I had a 3rd party question for, awaiting the OM...

Exactly

How many time until an international executive action on Fukushima?

The MOX must be retired. They could use Thorium instead and/or liquid Sodium for cooling. Go figure.

If simply they don't know how to deal with the problem, you can bet about the 21st Century Greatest Engineering Enterprise: the sealing of Fukushima under an huge land-sea hermetic macrostructure or sealed container.... under decades of monitored quarantine.

Sure, they can destroy & burn all that. How? Nuking it?

OK, you geniuses on Physics of the world... You can think about some way to fix it... quickly & rightly.

Last Edited by Inerrancia on 07/24/2013 09:28 AM

misnomer, and wishful thinking....

over a billion BQs per hour 24/7/365 for two years.. our doom is sealed.....

the nay sayers, can say what they will, it doesn't change the situation we are in...

Last Edited by CitizenPerth™ on 07/24/2013 09:25 AM

Reality helps? Only Scifi. THEY CAN'T FIX IT.

ahhh some critical thinking.. indeed with what.. i am inviting a symposium to Aus to discuss what is known.. look for november

The Japanese mafia the Yazuka pops up here and there while reading about Fukushima. I think it is interesting from a conspiracy theory point of view. I will spare you on that but this article says the Yazuka were involved in the contruction of the plants and that they somehow forced workers to go to the plants after the disaster.

There are surprisingly a lot of articles now about how the Yazuka are helping the cause.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

snip

Suzuki discovered evidence of Tepco subcontractors paying yakuza front companies to obtain lucrative construction contracts; of money destined for construction work flying into yakuza accounts; and of politicians and media being paid to look the other way. More shocking, perhaps, were the conditions he says he found inside the plant.
His fellow workers, found Suzuki, were a motley crew of homeless, chronically unemployed Japanese men, former yakuza, debtors who owed money to the yakuza, and the mentally handicapped. Suzuki claims the regular employees at the plant were often given better radiation suits than the yakuza recruits. (Tepco has admitted that there was a shortage of equipment in the disaster’s early days.) The regular employees were allowed to pass through sophisticated radiation monitors while the temporary labourers were simply given hand rods to monitor their radiation exposure.

Who runs Japan? How much influence does the mob have?

I think it's interesting, what do you think Citizen?

How is the weather in November? Will it be a beachy location?

Obvious. Yakuza is behind every lucrative stuff in Japan.

I think there are 8 meltdowns and have since the beginning. 1 2 3 4

5 6 7 8 where are 7 and 8? Just a crazy thought.........a thought is only a thought.