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Why Don't Republicans Want EVERY Family To Have Free Pre K School For All American Children?

 
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We were just talking about this at our local evil republicans meeting. We were smoking 100 dollar stogies lit with unemployment checks that we stole out of poor peoples mailboxes. Then we went and masturbated like monkeys over pictures of kids who had been killed by gun violence.

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Considering kids are learning shapes, colors, numbers and letters in kindergarten, what exactly are you wanting to teach them in preschool?

Kindergarten IS preschool. There's no need to take a 4-year-old out of the home and slap them in school to learn things they can learn the following year.

That's why they shouldn't pay for it.

Why are you trying to rob children of their childhood? Let them play!
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A long, long time ago, both my brother and I could read before we started school. Our mother taught us.
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Oh lucky you! My parents didn't speak English and I had to learn English in kindergarten and I was born in the USA. I was so embarrassed the first day of kindergarten, the teacher told us to find our seats with our names written on it, I didn't even know what my name looked like so I waited till everyone sat down to find my seat.

I turned out fine.
 Quoting: nah


You were born in this country and in five years before kindergarten STILL hadn't learned to speak English?

Did you live in a cave? I simply don't believe you were born here and with all that kids are exposed to STILL could not speak English before kindergarten. Unless, of course, both you and your parents were incredibly stupid.

And guess what? Parents have been teaching their kids to read for hundreds of years! Yes, imagine that. One of mine started kinderfarten reading on fifth grade level in fact.

We also teach them throughout their entire educational process. Never trust or depend on a school system to educate your children! That's a recipe for disaster.

Yes, it's less time to get hair weaves and do your nails and such but that's just how it's done.

Parents, NOT the school system, are ultimately responsible for their children's education. Oh, and one of mine AP'ed Calculus II when it wasn't even taught at his high school. And I couldn't do that but I could tell him where to find out about it on the internet.


This is yet another way for sorry no good parents to cop out of being responsible for their own kids.

Get off your lazy asses and PARENT! Don't expect others to rear your kids for you.


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Yes.

No.

Why would you assume my parents and I were incredibly stupid because they did not speak English to me? I heard it on television but we didn't speak it in my household and I was raised by my grandmother while my parents worked and she didn't speak it either.

You seem to be lacking some reading and comprehension skills yourself but I won't call you stupid, just common.
 Quoting: nah



And good on you now that you know two languages. I work in a school district and the amount of Latinos that show up for school with limited to no English skills is staggering. There are no English requirements to enter this country and sadly it's the kids of these aliens/immigrants legal or not that suffer from it. The first days of school even when you speak English can be a scary and intimidating time. We've been spoiled and fortunate here in America and most have never had to be in a classroom with a bunch of gibberish being spoken that we didn't quite understand. I'm surprised at the lack of some people's empathy and the ability to quickly call names and cuss (Bluebird goes off like that many times) about a little kid's lack of English. With that said...IT IS the responsibility of both parents and grandparents too, to try and learn English and to ensure their next generation learn enough to start school regardless of how much the parents are working. Even today, Latino parents in my area are not learning and/or teaching their offspring enough English before entering school. Much like their English counterparts, they dump the kids off for the schools to do everything and then wonder why there's no progress with their children. No matter where you're from or what language you speak, people can't remain ignorant to the fact that education starts at home and continues at home no matter how many hours are spent by the child in a classroom. It's funny how many piss n moan about the state of education and that many of our kids are not to bright when they graduate. They blame the republicans, they blame the schools, they blame the teachers, they even blame other district employees for making to much money for why their child's a little stupid. They never once look in the mirror and ask if they really did all they could do for THEIR OWN CHILD, the whole while placing blame on ANYONE else. Life may be like a box of chocolates, but stupid really is as stupid does and when it looks like the apple fell a little to close to the tree, whose to blame? The Bundy kids from Married With Children use to say in unison..."THANKS MOM...THANKS DAD".


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Who would block that?

Who would say "We can't afford that"?

It makes no sense to me because it is so necessary that it is counter intuitive.

The reasons FOR it are numerous but I've yet to see anyone who can make an argument against it.

Yet Republicans in Congress want to fight President Obama on it.
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Pre-K is just government subsidized daycare. Here's an idea. How about not having kids until you can afford the time and money involved to raise them properly. That's what used to be called "family planning" until the libtards introduced medical vacuums into the mix.
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Oh lucky you! My parents didn't speak English and I had to learn English in kindergarten and I was born in the USA. I was so embarrassed the first day of kindergarten, the teacher told us to find our seats with our names written on it, I didn't even know what my name looked like so I waited till everyone sat down to find my seat.

I turned out fine.
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You were born in this country and in five years before kindergarten STILL hadn't learned to speak English?

Did you live in a cave? I simply don't believe you were born here and with all that kids are exposed to STILL could not speak English before kindergarten. Unless, of course, both you and your parents were incredibly stupid.

And guess what? Parents have been teaching their kids to read for hundreds of years! Yes, imagine that. One of mine started kinderfarten reading on fifth grade level in fact.

We also teach them throughout their entire educational process. Never trust or depend on a school system to educate your children! That's a recipe for disaster.

Yes, it's less time to get hair weaves and do your nails and such but that's just how it's done.

Parents, NOT the school system, are ultimately responsible for their children's education. Oh, and one of mine AP'ed Calculus II when it wasn't even taught at his high school. And I couldn't do that but I could tell him where to find out about it on the internet.


This is yet another way for sorry no good parents to cop out of being responsible for their own kids.

Get off your lazy asses and PARENT! Don't expect others to rear your kids for you.


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Yes.

No.

Why would you assume my parents and I were incredibly stupid because they did not speak English to me? I heard it on television but we didn't speak it in my household and I was raised by my grandmother while my parents worked and she didn't speak it either.

You seem to be lacking some reading and comprehension skills yourself but I won't call you stupid, just common.
 Quoting: nah



And good on you now that you know two languages. I work in a school district and the amount of Latinos that show up for school with limited to no English skills is staggering. There are no English requirements to enter this country and sadly it's the kids of these aliens/immigrants legal or not that suffer from it. The first days of school even when you speak English can be a scary and intimidating time. We've been spoiled and fortunate here in America and most have never had to be in a classroom with a bunch of gibberish being spoken that we didn't quite understand. I'm surprised at the lack of some people's empathy and the ability to quickly call names and cuss (Bluebird goes off like that many times) about a little kid's lack of English. With that said...IT IS the responsibility of both parents and grandparents too, to try and learn English and to ensure their next generation learn enough to start school regardless of how much the parents are working. Even today, Latino parents in my area are not learning and/or teaching their offspring enough English before entering school. Much like their English counterparts, they dump the kids off for the schools to do everything and then wonder why there's no progress with their children. No matter where you're from or what language you speak, people can't remain ignorant to the fact that education starts at home and continues at home no matter how many hours are spent by the child in a classroom. It's funny how many piss n moan about the state of education and that many of our kids are not to bright when they graduate. They blame the republicans, they blame the schools, they blame the teachers, they even blame other district employees for making to much money for why their child's a little stupid. They never once look in the mirror and ask if they really did all they could do for THEIR OWN CHILD, the whole while placing blame on ANYONE else. Life may be like a box of chocolates, but stupid really is as stupid does and when it looks like the apple fell a little to close to the tree, whose to blame? The Bundy kids from Married With Children use to say in unison..."THANKS MOM...THANKS DAD".


wakeup
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I think the exposure I had to English helped. I understood 2 languages yet didn't speak either. I have no idea why. I have family oversea's that has never taken an English class but learned English from English speaking television shows. She was so excited to be able to speak it to me when I came to visit, she was only 6 years old.

My parents were busy, my mom worked a factory job and all the women she worked with spoke her language, she had to pick up the basics fast. My dad on the other hand took English classes as soon as he got here and then put himself through college for avionic engineering while working a couple jobs.

I had a very difficult time in school, my parents were never around to help me and back in those days it was safe to leave 6 year old's home alone while they worked (I stayed with grandma until we moved out of her house and my parents were established). I barely graduated high school but I can't blame my parents for that, I simply had different comprehension skills and communicating verbally for me was difficult. It would have been easier if I had some type of written correspondences with my teachers so that I could explain myself better or get a better understanding of what they were saying. I didn't know that then but I understand that now.
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You were born in this country and in five years before kindergarten STILL hadn't learned to speak English?

Did you live in a cave? I simply don't believe you were born here and with all that kids are exposed to STILL could not speak English before kindergarten. Unless, of course, both you and your parents were incredibly stupid.

And guess what? Parents have been teaching their kids to read for hundreds of years! Yes, imagine that. One of mine started kinderfarten reading on fifth grade level in fact.

We also teach them throughout their entire educational process. Never trust or depend on a school system to educate your children! That's a recipe for disaster.

Yes, it's less time to get hair weaves and do your nails and such but that's just how it's done.

Parents, NOT the school system, are ultimately responsible for their children's education. Oh, and one of mine AP'ed Calculus II when it wasn't even taught at his high school. And I couldn't do that but I could tell him where to find out about it on the internet.


This is yet another way for sorry no good parents to cop out of being responsible for their own kids.

Get off your lazy asses and PARENT! Don't expect others to rear your kids for you.


.
 Quoting: Bluebird


Yes.

No.

Why would you assume my parents and I were incredibly stupid because they did not speak English to me? I heard it on television but we didn't speak it in my household and I was raised by my grandmother while my parents worked and she didn't speak it either.

You seem to be lacking some reading and comprehension skills yourself but I won't call you stupid, just common.
 Quoting: nah



And good on you now that you know two languages. I work in a school district and the amount of Latinos that show up for school with limited to no English skills is staggering. There are no English requirements to enter this country and sadly it's the kids of these aliens/immigrants legal or not that suffer from it. The first days of school even when you speak English can be a scary and intimidating time. We've been spoiled and fortunate here in America and most have never had to be in a classroom with a bunch of gibberish being spoken that we didn't quite understand. I'm surprised at the lack of some people's empathy and the ability to quickly call names and cuss (Bluebird goes off like that many times) about a little kid's lack of English. With that said...IT IS the responsibility of both parents and grandparents too, to try and learn English and to ensure their next generation learn enough to start school regardless of how much the parents are working. Even today, Latino parents in my area are not learning and/or teaching their offspring enough English before entering school. Much like their English counterparts, they dump the kids off for the schools to do everything and then wonder why there's no progress with their children. No matter where you're from or what language you speak, people can't remain ignorant to the fact that education starts at home and continues at home no matter how many hours are spent by the child in a classroom. It's funny how many piss n moan about the state of education and that many of our kids are not to bright when they graduate. They blame the republicans, they blame the schools, they blame the teachers, they even blame other district employees for making to much money for why their child's a little stupid. They never once look in the mirror and ask if they really did all they could do for THEIR OWN CHILD, the whole while placing blame on ANYONE else. Life may be like a box of chocolates, but stupid really is as stupid does and when it looks like the apple fell a little to close to the tree, whose to blame? The Bundy kids from Married With Children use to say in unison..."THANKS MOM...THANKS DAD".


wakeup
 Quoting: van down by the river 647094


I think the exposure I had to English helped. I understood 2 languages yet didn't speak either. I have no idea why. I have family oversea's that has never taken an English class but learned English from English speaking television shows. She was so excited to be able to speak it to me when I came to visit, she was only 6 years old.

My parents were busy, my mom worked a factory job and all the women she worked with spoke her language, she had to pick up the basics fast. My dad on the other hand took English classes as soon as he got here and then put himself through college for avionic engineering while working a couple jobs.

I had a very difficult time in school, my parents were never around to help me and back in those days it was safe to leave 6 year old's home alone while they worked (I stayed with grandma until we moved out of her house and my parents were established). I barely graduated high school but I can't blame my parents for that, I simply had different comprehension skills and communicating verbally for me was difficult. It would have been easier if I had some type of written correspondences with my teachers so that I could explain myself better or get a better understanding of what they were saying. I didn't know that then but I understand that now.
 Quoting: nah



I don't know if you have kids, but if you ever have the chance, try to volunteer some time for the kids that may be like you were. At one time, I worked on a playground for a school that had a lot of Latino kids. I could speak a little Spanish mostly because of my wife being from Puerto Rico. Anyway, the principal ask if I would be interested in helping some Latino kindergarten and first graders that were having problems with English. Mostly just basic words, numbers and alphabet. I said yes and really enjoyed my time there doing it. I thought I was just volunteering until I was required to fill out a time sheet for the hours I had helped that month. This was in 1995 and a couple of years ago at a local watering hole we frequent, a brother and sister maybe 23 or 24yrs old came up to us and asked if I was Mr. (Blank) and if I had worked at the school they attended in the 90's. So surprising and made my eyes water when they were so appreciative of me helping them with their English. They were working and putting themselves through college now. They spoke great English with hardly an accent leftover from their childhoods. I really did what I thought was so very little, but by their expressions of gratitude, apparently it jump started them and they never looked back at times of no English skills. We need to try and help kids regardless of if you think their parents are lazy, stupid or just ignorant. You really never know who you might help even if it's "only two" out of hundreds. Be proud of your parents, because like most of us, they probably did do the best they could do. We're not all Einsteins like apparently so many on this site are.


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Allow me to explain how it works to you OP.
The government has plenty of money for weapons. They have plenty of money for military aid to Israel, they have plenty of money to prop up wall street, plenty of money for oil subsidies, plenty of money to subsidize big pharma research, plenty of money for the Egyptian military, plenty of money for ethanol subsidies, plenty of money for NSA spy programs/

Because all of this benefits the elite.

If you dare mention something that benefits the regular people, the answer is always the same...

Who is gonna pay for that?

I got news for you.. we pay for ALL OF IT.
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The military has been gutted. Israel has been cut off completely. Our domestic energy production is under assault.

You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
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Let's look at this idiocy one at a time.

Military spending is more than all other governments combined, yeah, that's gutted moron.

Israel cut off, what a laugh.

Our domestic energy is under attack, by our own government.

You are more than fail.

pick
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What the fuck do all other militaries combined have to do with anything? - plus you're flat out wrong. Research China and Russia, dip shit. China is building a whole new navy and Russia is storming back.

You are right about one thing - 0beyme is conducting an all out war on our domestic energy production. That's the point DUMBASS.

If you don't understand that 0beyme has cut off Israel, you haven't been paying attention. He hates Jews.
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Obama has not cut off Israel.
You'll be able to tell if he does.
The silence will be deafening.
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Who would block that?

Who would say "We can't afford that"?

It makes no sense to me because it is so necessary that it is counter intuitive.

The reasons FOR it are numerous but I've yet to see anyone who can make an argument against it.

Yet Republicans in Congress want to fight President Obama on it.
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Nothing is "free", somebody pays for it.
So guess who? The middle class with more taxes. not the rich with all those accountants, not the poor with all those government subsidies.
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Plank 10 of Communist Menifesto
10. Free education for all children in public schools

Ya, let the government(a privately owned corporation) educate children instead of privately educating them ourselves.

Most people a have marriage license making their children wards of the state and the state will educate its own
children however they see fit.... to become useful idiots
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Yes.

No.

Why would you assume my parents and I were incredibly stupid because they did not speak English to me? I heard it on television but we didn't speak it in my household and I was raised by my grandmother while my parents worked and she didn't speak it either.

You seem to be lacking some reading and comprehension skills yourself but I won't call you stupid, just common.
 Quoting: nah



And good on you now that you know two languages. I work in a school district and the amount of Latinos that show up for school with limited to no English skills is staggering. There are no English requirements to enter this country and sadly it's the kids of these aliens/immigrants legal or not that suffer from it. The first days of school even when you speak English can be a scary and intimidating time. We've been spoiled and fortunate here in America and most have never had to be in a classroom with a bunch of gibberish being spoken that we didn't quite understand. I'm surprised at the lack of some people's empathy and the ability to quickly call names and cuss (Bluebird goes off like that many times) about a little kid's lack of English. With that said...IT IS the responsibility of both parents and grandparents too, to try and learn English and to ensure their next generation learn enough to start school regardless of how much the parents are working. Even today, Latino parents in my area are not learning and/or teaching their offspring enough English before entering school. Much like their English counterparts, they dump the kids off for the schools to do everything and then wonder why there's no progress with their children. No matter where you're from or what language you speak, people can't remain ignorant to the fact that education starts at home and continues at home no matter how many hours are spent by the child in a classroom. It's funny how many piss n moan about the state of education and that many of our kids are not to bright when they graduate. They blame the republicans, they blame the schools, they blame the teachers, they even blame other district employees for making to much money for why their child's a little stupid. They never once look in the mirror and ask if they really did all they could do for THEIR OWN CHILD, the whole while placing blame on ANYONE else. Life may be like a box of chocolates, but stupid really is as stupid does and when it looks like the apple fell a little to close to the tree, whose to blame? The Bundy kids from Married With Children use to say in unison..."THANKS MOM...THANKS DAD".


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I think the exposure I had to English helped. I understood 2 languages yet didn't speak either. I have no idea why. I have family oversea's that has never taken an English class but learned English from English speaking television shows. She was so excited to be able to speak it to me when I came to visit, she was only 6 years old.

My parents were busy, my mom worked a factory job and all the women she worked with spoke her language, she had to pick up the basics fast. My dad on the other hand took English classes as soon as he got here and then put himself through college for avionic engineering while working a couple jobs.

I had a very difficult time in school, my parents were never around to help me and back in those days it was safe to leave 6 year old's home alone while they worked (I stayed with grandma until we moved out of her house and my parents were established). I barely graduated high school but I can't blame my parents for that, I simply had different comprehension skills and communicating verbally for me was difficult. It would have been easier if I had some type of written correspondences with my teachers so that I could explain myself better or get a better understanding of what they were saying. I didn't know that then but I understand that now.
 Quoting: nah



I don't know if you have kids, but if you ever have the chance, try to volunteer some time for the kids that may be like you were. At one time, I worked on a playground for a school that had a lot of Latino kids. I could speak a little Spanish mostly because of my wife being from Puerto Rico. Anyway, the principal ask if I would be interested in helping some Latino kindergarten and first graders that were having problems with English. Mostly just basic words, numbers and alphabet. I said yes and really enjoyed my time there doing it. I thought I was just volunteering until I was required to fill out a time sheet for the hours I had helped that month. This was in 1995 and a couple of years ago at a local watering hole we frequent, a brother and sister maybe 23 or 24yrs old came up to us and asked if I was Mr. (Blank) and if I had worked at the school they attended in the 90's. So surprising and made my eyes water when they were so appreciative of me helping them with their English. They were working and putting themselves through college now. They spoke great English with hardly an accent leftover from their childhoods. I really did what I thought was so very little, but by their expressions of gratitude, apparently it jump started them and they never looked back at times of no English skills. We need to try and help kids regardless of if you think their parents are lazy, stupid or just ignorant. You really never know who you might help even if it's "only two" out of hundreds. Be proud of your parents, because like most of us, they probably did do the best they could do. We're not all Einsteins like apparently so many on this site are.


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That's so awesome they remembered you! I do have kids and the oldest was put in some experimental class mixed with super smart kids and the really slow ones. She was one of the mentors starting at age 5, and at age 17 got a letter from Yale encouraging her to apply. I had absolutely nothing to do with her book smarts because I didn't understand her homework, ever but she was also in one of the top school districts in the State. All I did was read to her. My other 2 are a little more laid back, they are smart in different ways.

I did want to build a school for children at one point in my life, but not in the USA. I realized it wouldn't have made a difference, so many people were against the idea because it had to do with a minority group that people in the country hated and expected me to do something for them instead of the children that needed it the most. I also loved these kids like they were mine. Here's a picture of one of the kids I met. He was paralyzed and had a twin brother, his parents maimed him so he could get more money when he begged. We didn't learn each other's languages but we had no problem communicating. I remember when his older brother took me to his house, people were asking him who I was and he told them I was his cousin from Italy because they hated people from the USA too.

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Plank 10 of Communist Menifesto
10. Free education for all children in public schools


Ya, let the government(a privately owned corporation) educate children instead of privately educating them ourselves.

Most people a have marriage license making their children wards of the state and the state will educate its own
children however they see fit.... to become useful idiots
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I think the exposure I had to English helped. I understood 2 languages yet didn't speak either. I have no idea why. I have family oversea's that has never taken an English class but learned English from English speaking television shows. She was so excited to be able to speak it to me when I came to visit, she was only 6 years old.

My parents were busy, my mom worked a factory job and all the women she worked with spoke her language, she had to pick up the basics fast. My dad on the other hand took English classes as soon as he got here and then put himself through college for avionic engineering while working a couple jobs.

I had a very difficult time in school, my parents were never around to help me and back in those days it was safe to leave 6 year old's home alone while they worked (I stayed with grandma until we moved out of her house and my parents were established). I barely graduated high school but I can't blame my parents for that, I simply had different comprehension skills and communicating verbally for me was difficult. It would have been easier if I had some type of written correspondences with my teachers so that I could explain myself better or get a better understanding of what they were saying. I didn't know that then but I understand that now.
 Quoting: nah


Sounds like you're somewhere on the "spectrum" (autism - Aspergers) but you'd know better, maybe I am wrong. Also, if you were learning 2 languages natively, it took your brain more time to absorb and sort out the greater amount of basic material.

I am not necessarily opposed to teaching limited-English-proficient kids English in school AS LONG AS those proficient in English get to learn a foreign language during that time. It can be Spanish for everyone (very practical and useful) or some other languages too, but I want our native-born English speakers to get as much benefit from school as immigrants.

Even though that does not reduce the "gap" and therefore probably won't happen.
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Who would block that?

Who would say "We can't afford that"?

It makes no sense to me because it is so necessary that it is counter intuitive.

The reasons FOR it are numerous but I've yet to see anyone who can make an argument against it.

Yet Republicans in Congress want to fight President Obama on it.
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I don't know either, since the govt. seems hellbent on indoctrination of the younguns.

Oh, and yeah... we need the schools to be tax payer funded baby sitters at younger and younger ages.
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What is it that makes the left incapable of understanding the meaning of personal responsibility and sustainability?
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This.

Wake up and smell the coffee libtards!

WE ARE BROKE.

ALL OF US ARE BROKE.

WE ARE ALL BROKE AT THE SAME TIME.

NOBODY HAS ANY MORE MONEY TO FUND ANYTHING M-O-R-E.

Do you get it now?????

WE'RE DONE.

WE'RE ALL DONE.

Oh, and thanks for helping hock the nation to hell and back BTW.

What do you think keeps a nation's sovereignty intact anyway?

Well, IT SURE AIN'T DEBT UP TO OUR HAIRLINES.

Okay????

So, enough already about the "F*R*E*E* Pre K School.

NOTHING IS TRULY FREE.

Get over it already.
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There's nothing more insidious than government controlled education camps. I'd rather have the government spend money on germ warfare than education. They have used education to turn our kids into satanic self worshipping, Marxist atheists, unable to think critically and always willing to soak up leftist propaganda.


Governments purpose is to hurt people and destroy things. That's what their education program has done to our children. Remember our supposed uneducated colonialists had a 97% literacy rate thanks to their church and community Bible education.
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Who would block that?

Who would say "We can't afford that"?

It makes no sense to me because it is so necessary that it is counter intuitive.

The reasons FOR it are numerous but I've yet to see anyone who can make an argument against it.

Yet Republicans in Congress want to fight President Obama on it.
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Great education is valuable to everyone... I just don't trust the government with my money or my kids. Why would you invite the fox to guard the hen house, and on an empty stomach at that?

In short - HELL NO!!!!!
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Republicans seek to keep white privilege.
White people are already headed for being a minority,
they certainly don't want to lose their prvileged starting
position in life.
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Who would block that?

Who would say "We can't afford that"?

It makes no sense to me because it is so necessary that it is counter intuitive.

The reasons FOR it are numerous but I've yet to see anyone who can make an argument against it.

Yet Republicans in Congress want to fight President Obama on it.
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Well that one's easy! Because they do not believe in abortions!!
Lol
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Why should the rest of us pay for someone else's babysitter? That's all it is.

You want the little ones to learn and be well adusted? Teach them at home. The first years require bonding with family, not being torn from it.

You want a babysitter? Pay for it yourself.
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Who would block that?

Who would say "We can't afford that"?

It makes no sense to me because it is so necessary that it is counter intuitive.

The reasons FOR it are numerous but I've yet to see anyone who can make an argument against it.

Yet Republicans in Congress want to fight President Obama on it.
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Who the F thinks it's necessary for a kid to go to PRE-K?

RIDICULOUS!
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Who would block that?

Who would say "We can't afford that"?

It makes no sense to me because it is so necessary that it is counter intuitive.

The reasons FOR it are numerous but I've yet to see anyone who can make an argument against it.

Yet Republicans in Congress want to fight President Obama on it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43948062


Any idea, any policy, any legislation that has Obama on it is instantly shot down by Republicans.

They have never compromised on anything. They are nothing more than obstructionist hypocrites of the worst kind.

They have hurt progress in each and every step, whether it is ending the constant state of war, providing healthcare for those who need it most, and strengthening the middle class with social programs like subsidized day-care(for fucks sake, why would those idiots not see this is needed? Oh right...because woman should all find single income breadwinner households and sit around all day raising kids and have no career......)
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Who would block that?

Who would say "We can't afford that"?

It makes no sense to me because it is so necessary that it is counter intuitive.

The reasons FOR it are numerous but I've yet to see anyone who can make an argument against it.

Yet Republicans in Congress want to fight President Obama on it.
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Who the F thinks it's necessary for a kid to go to PRE-K?

RIDICULOUS!
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Most of the modernized free world?

It is day care Cleetus, people do not need it for anything other than a baby sitter so they are able to go to work earlier and earn a pay check.
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Who would block that?

Who would say "We can't afford that"?

It makes no sense to me because it is so necessary that it is counter intuitive.

The reasons FOR it are numerous but I've yet to see anyone who can make an argument against it.

Yet Republicans in Congress want to fight President Obama on it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43948062


Great education is valuable to everyone... I just don't trust the government with my money or my kids. Why would you invite the fox to guard the hen house, and on an empty stomach at that?

In short - HELL NO!!!!!
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The government is your only option for a program of this scale and size.

Obviously they are doing something the state governments seem incapable of doing for their populations.
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There's nothing more insidious than government controlled education camps. I'd rather have the government spend money on germ warfare than education. They have used education to turn our kids into satanic self worshipping, Marxist atheists, unable to think critically and always willing to soak up leftist propaganda.


Governments purpose is to hurt people and destroy things. That's what their education program has done to our children. Remember our supposed uneducated colonialists had a 97% literacy rate thanks to their church and community Bible education.
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Jim Bob, it is Kindergarten.

They will have a hard time teaching Marxism to a class who doesn't even know their ABC's yet. I am pretty sure your media industry does an excellent job of the Satanism and self-worshipping part....lol.

Are all of you who have this paranoid delusional state of mind as complete out of touch with reality?
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I think the exposure I had to English helped. I understood 2 languages yet didn't speak either. I have no idea why. I have family oversea's that has never taken an English class but learned English from English speaking television shows. She was so excited to be able to speak it to me when I came to visit, she was only 6 years old.

My parents were busy, my mom worked a factory job and all the women she worked with spoke her language, she had to pick up the basics fast. My dad on the other hand took English classes as soon as he got here and then put himself through college for avionic engineering while working a couple jobs.

I had a very difficult time in school, my parents were never around to help me and back in those days it was safe to leave 6 year old's home alone while they worked (I stayed with grandma until we moved out of her house and my parents were established). I barely graduated high school but I can't blame my parents for that, I simply had different comprehension skills and communicating verbally for me was difficult. It would have been easier if I had some type of written correspondences with my teachers so that I could explain myself better or get a better understanding of what they were saying. I didn't know that then but I understand that now.
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Sounds like you're somewhere on the "spectrum" (autism - Aspergers) but you'd know better, maybe I am wrong. Also, if you were learning 2 languages natively, it took your brain more time to absorb and sort out the greater amount of basic material.

I am not necessarily opposed to teaching limited-English-proficient kids English in school AS LONG AS those proficient in English get to learn a foreign language during that time. It can be Spanish for everyone (very practical and useful) or some other languages too, but I want our native-born English speakers to get as much benefit from school as immigrants.

Even though that does not reduce the "gap" and therefore probably won't happen.
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Some doctor told my parents I was retarded. My dad told my husband that when he was trying to convince him to divorce me and convince me to abort his child. I never knew because I was never in any special classes. But we also have good reason to believe my dad was lying. He might be smart but he's a liar liar pants on fire.

I think in most countries children start learning a second language of their choice in elementary school. I didn't start taking my third language until high school. I did well in that class. But most everything else, especially history, I just couldn't absorb anything, math, none of it made sense or interested me. English was fun if I got to write papers, I loved writing stories. But it was like my brain had a mind of it's own and just wouldn't let me absorb what was being taught.
When you find a piece of shit along side the road and you poke it with a stick, what do you expect to find inside of it, gold?
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Who would block that?

Who would say "We can't afford that"?

It makes no sense to me because it is so necessary that it is counter intuitive.

The reasons FOR it are numerous but I've yet to see anyone who can make an argument against it.

Yet Republicans in Congress want to fight President Obama on it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43948062


Any idea, any policy, any legislation that has Obama on it is instantly shot down by Republicans.

They have never compromised on anything. They are nothing more than obstructionist hypocrites of the worst kind.

They have hurt progress in each and every step, whether it is ending the constant state of war, providing healthcare for those who need it most, and strengthening the middle class with social programs like subsidized day-care(for fucks sake, why would those idiots not see this is needed? Oh right...because woman should all find single income breadwinner households and sit around all day raising kids and have no career......)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44011066


Your definition of Progress is to take more and more of OTM (Other People's Money) for what is Needed.

Your words are gentle, though. Usually there's some stuff saying we MUST pay for thing for ALL students.

Here's a concept. Have a kid, pay to raise the kid.
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I think the exposure I had to English helped. I understood 2 languages yet didn't speak either. I have no idea why. I have family oversea's that has never taken an English class but learned English from English speaking television shows. She was so excited to be able to speak it to me when I came to visit, she was only 6 years old.

My parents were busy, my mom worked a factory job and all the women she worked with spoke her language, she had to pick up the basics fast. My dad on the other hand took English classes as soon as he got here and then put himself through college for avionic engineering while working a couple jobs.

I had a very difficult time in school, my parents were never around to help me and back in those days it was safe to leave 6 year old's home alone while they worked (I stayed with grandma until we moved out of her house and my parents were established). I barely graduated high school but I can't blame my parents for that, I simply had different comprehension skills and communicating verbally for me was difficult. It would have been easier if I had some type of written correspondences with my teachers so that I could explain myself better or get a better understanding of what they were saying. I didn't know that then but I understand that now.
 Quoting: nah


Sounds like you're somewhere on the "spectrum" (autism - Aspergers) but you'd know better, maybe I am wrong. Also, if you were learning 2 languages natively, it took your brain more time to absorb and sort out the greater amount of basic material.

I am not necessarily opposed to teaching limited-English-proficient kids English in school AS LONG AS those proficient in English get to learn a foreign language during that time. It can be Spanish for everyone (very practical and useful) or some other languages too, but I want our native-born English speakers to get as much benefit from school as immigrants.

Even though that does not reduce the "gap" and therefore probably won't happen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43628707



Some doctor told my parents I was retarded. My dad told my husband that when he was trying to convince him to divorce me and convince me to abort his child. I never knew because I was never in any special classes. But we also have good reason to believe my dad was lying. He might be smart but he's a liar liar pants on fire.

I think in most countries children start learning a second language of their choice in elementary school. I didn't start taking my third language until high school. I did well in that class. But most everything else, especially history, I just couldn't absorb anything, math, none of it made sense or interested me. English was fun if I got to write papers, I loved writing stories. But it was like my brain had a mind of it's own and just wouldn't let me absorb what was being taught.
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You're certainly not retarded, that's obvious from the way you write. I used to like most things in school EXCEPT writing papers. Also I liked to read but not to have to "pay" for it by doing all that writing about what I read.
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What is it that makes the left incapable of understanding the meaning of personal responsibility and sustainability?
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It is their failed religion of utopianism. They want to start kids young hating their parents, trusting the state, and promoting homosexuality to remove any faith in God their parent may be trying to teach them. Extremist Democrat liberals like Sebilius want your children, and must start their Stasi education now!
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Nothing is "free", someone has to pay for it.





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