Confirmed, Fire and steam from reactor 3 Fukushima.. time for plan 'z' I'm so sry for those with children, | |
Jento User ID: 42045420 United States 07/24/2013 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Confirmed, Fire and steam from reactor 3 Fukushima.. time for plan 'z' I'm so sry for those with children, Plan /Z\ Quoting: Metatron Phi Bismuth. What fukushima needs is a large dose of pepto. Can anyone tell me what adding Bismuth to the nuclear fuel would do? We just need to bury it in lead and bismuth. With the quickness. Yeah, now you need an army of zombies to do it. Exactly. The only real way to contain this is the send people on suicide missions. Of course doing something like that would reach the press and let everyone know just how bad the situation is. Apparently its better to let everyone live in ignorance for a little while than try to save face and save the very large portion of the population affected. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8334464 United Kingdom 07/24/2013 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Confirmed, Fire and steam from reactor 3 Fukushima.. time for plan 'z' I'm so sry for those with children, oh shit...if this is correct, and this thing is the fire they cant put out...I FORGET HER NAME...one of the big wigs on the situation like gunderson ...she said about UNIT 4 because it is cracked and looks like it will collapse and they would not be able to put that fire out....she said in that event she would pack up her family and i think move to Australia...holy shit discernment as i type...WHY THE FUCK DO YOU THINK AUSTRALIA JUST SAID NO MORE IMMIGRANTS..fuck...thats damn near confirmation for me we have entered the next stage...again ...fuck Quoting: Uncle Fuck Stick Helen Caldicott |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25822448 United States 07/24/2013 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Confirmed, Fire and steam from reactor 3 Fukushima.. time for plan 'z' I'm so sry for those with children, Just trying to understand why it's such a problem. I am googling right now to understand it. A short synopsis would be really helpful if anyone has the patience for it. it is a very complicated situation... If you are a fan of Back to the Future, it would be the equivalent of having the flux copasatuer go into meltdown.... You cant just unplug, its already spewing... Is the reactor still generating heat? For example, is the "car engine" still running even though it is upside down in the middle of the road? Thanks again for your patience. I think there are a lot of people who really don't understand what is going on with it. |
Inerrancia User ID: 18792782 Spain 07/24/2013 10:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Confirmed, Fire and steam from reactor 3 Fukushima.. time for plan 'z' I'm so sry for those with children, Masayuki Ono, TEPCO's general manager, told a news conference this week: "We would like to offer our deep apology for causing grave worries for many people, especially for people in Fukushima." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15774060 No worries mate. Everybody in Tepco can commit seppuku as universal apology if they wish, but that doesn't fix the mess. Last Edited by Inerrancia on 07/24/2013 10:28 PM |
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Nancy (Lazaryan) Hutchison User ID: 43877481 United States 07/24/2013 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Confirmed, Fire and steam from reactor 3 Fukushima.. time for plan 'z' I'm so sry for those with children, In 2005 Ken Shoulders (known as the father of MicroElectronics, which he developed with MIT), sent MIT a report on how radioactive contamination can be eliminated using the "Hutchison Effect". MIT never responded. "They" know how to do this, just like we do. Quoting: Nancy (Lazaryan) Hutchison Ken just recently died. Lived on the west coast. Cancer. John Hutchison and I are using the Hutchison technology, here, on the southern coast of Oregon. We came here in April of last year, because of reports of heavy contamination. Our current CPM is between 8 and 10 (air, alpha, beta, gamma). About 10 days ago the rest of the country had a massive spike in radiation, 300 to 800 CPM gamma (and beta) reported on "government" monitors. Lasted over 48 hours. We have maintained the 8 to 10 CPM. We are frantically testing various processes that can be duplicated in other areas, without the need for all the equipment Hutchison uses. But, it is "just us". We need someone that is a math whiz that can map out the tones that we use. An outside the box thinker, that can map the tones on a node of a spiraling toroid. (Like a Rodin coil). Certain combinations of audio tones, when played together, go "ultrasonic", into the RF and light frequencies. One of the beginning tests we just finished showed a 20% reduction of radiation of a scientific sample of radioactive material...while in front of speakers. Audio tones. We sure could use lots of people with audio skills and Geiger counters to verify this in other parts of the country. The math whiz is needed to "find the intersections", as music is a spiral. We believe these intersections are the key to using just audio for elimination of radioactive contamination. We have repeatedly asked ham radio operators to work with us to "pick up the signal and bounce it". No one, nope, not a single person has said they would help. Frankly, we can do only what we can do. Multiple independent test results proving what we do works. If you want to stay alive, I suggest you participate in a solution. www.life-ray.org email: [email protected] Hey, I'm a HAM, both fixed and maritime mobile. (although never seem to have time to use it) Also have survey meters on me at all times and a permanent installation in North East PA. I travel contently for work, DC, DE, NY, PA, Tx and South Korea. I bring most of my gear with me, sans the big Icom. Whatever can I do to help. If you need A/B/G counts taken from my work areas and reported back to you on a routine basis, I can certainly do so. Please contact us at: [email protected] John will give you specifics |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25822448 United States 07/24/2013 10:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Confirmed, Fire and steam from reactor 3 Fukushima.. time for plan 'z' I'm so sry for those with children, I am serious. I know nothing about nuclear reactors or what have you. Isn't there a way to shut them down? Didn't someone come up with some kind of plan in case there was an accident to be able to shut them off? I'm not to educated about nuclear reactors myself but I do know that you essentially can't 'shut down' one. At least not in the way you are thinking. Once the reaction is started it will continue for quite some time. Over a period of many years dismantling of the reactor can be done (but only under safe conditions,which this current situation is not). Eventually all that is left to do is contain the core itself, which is still undergoing a reaction, just encased in something that helps to block radiation. Or so I believe, again I am not that knowledgeable on the subject. But just to reiterate, yes it can be done to a certain extent, just not under the conditions this plant is currently in. Makes sense... thank you. I am just surprised that soemething so distructive would not have a better fail safe when coastal disasters happen every year like clockwork. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 39464638 United States 07/24/2013 10:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Confirmed, Fire and steam from reactor 3 Fukushima.. time for plan 'z' I'm so sry for those with children, Just trying to understand why it's such a problem. I am googling right now to understand it. A short synopsis would be really helpful if anyone has the patience for it. it is a very complicated situation... If you are a fan of Back to the Future, it would be the equivalent of having the flux copasatuer go into meltdown.... You cant just unplug, its already spewing... Is the reactor still generating heat? For example, is the "car engine" still running even though it is upside down in the middle of the road? Thanks again for your patience. I think there are a lot of people who really don't understand what is going on with it. The MOX which is the liquid in the flux copasatuer is by nature generating electricity/heat you can't shut it off, all you can do is hope to contain it... |
Nancy (Lazaryan) Hutchison User ID: 43877481 United States 07/24/2013 10:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Confirmed, Fire and steam from reactor 3 Fukushima.. time for plan 'z' I'm so sry for those with children, ... Quoting: EscapeVelocity Hey, I'm a HAM, both fixed and maritime mobile. (although never seem to have time to use it) Also have survey meters on me at all times and a permanent installation in North East PA. I travel contently for work, DC, DE, NY, PA, Tx and South Korea. I bring most of my gear with me, sans the big Icom. Whatever can I do to help. If you need A/B/G counts taken from my work areas and reported back to you on a routine basis, I can certainly do so. Hi ... been following hutchison for years...He has ALWAYS BEEN RIGHT...and has had soooooo many people trash him....If I had money I would back him in his endeavors... Agreed, if I had the bread I would also do so.. but it seems that anybody who has access to money that has to be counted in Sagan units only cares about enslaving the population and staying on top of the shit heap. Just use a starship coil. We need GLP.... the folks here to participate It was a person from GLP that sent John and me a sample of BP oil polluted water. In John's lab,we were able to change the polluted water back to normal water. With those results, we packed up the lab and went to the Gulf of Mexico. Contacts from GLP got us to various beaches. Early on, I tried participating in a thread here, telling people we have a solution. The OP blocked me from posting. Last year, Phenn had us on GLP Live Chat. C'mon....some of the greatest outside the box thinkers are here on GLP. You want some doom....yeah, this radiation is REALLY bad. You want to change that reality... email: [email protected] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15774060 Australia 07/24/2013 10:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Confirmed, Fire and steam from reactor 3 Fukushima.. time for plan 'z' I'm so sry for those with children, I am serious. I know nothing about nuclear reactors or what have you. Isn't there a way to shut them down? Didn't someone come up with some kind of plan in case there was an accident to be able to shut them off? I'm not to educated about nuclear reactors myself but I do know that you essentially can't 'shut down' one. At least not in the way you are thinking. Once the reaction is started it will continue for quite some time. Over a period of many years dismantling of the reactor can be done (but only under safe conditions,which this current situation is not). Eventually all that is left to do is contain the core itself, which is still undergoing a reaction, just encased in something that helps to block radiation. Or so I believe, again I am not that knowledgeable on the subject. But just to reiterate, yes it can be done to a certain extent, just not under the conditions this plant is currently in. Makes sense... thank you. I am just surprised that soemething so distructive would not have a better fail safe when coastal disasters happen every year like clockwork. General Electric told TEPCO the reactors were earthquake resistant. And so they are. But when some retard decides to build a whole bunch of nuclear powerplants on the coastline in an earthquake-prone area, it doesn't take a room full of geniuses(genii?) to brainstorm the likely outcome in the event of an earthquake off that very same coast. The units were hardened against direct damage by earthquake, but no-one took the potential of a devastating tsunami washing away vital control and cooling equipment into account. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 37343436 United States 07/24/2013 11:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Confirmed, Fire and steam from reactor 3 Fukushima.. time for plan 'z' I'm so sry for those with children, ... Quoting: saturn12 Hi ... been following hutchison for years...He has ALWAYS BEEN RIGHT...and has had soooooo many people trash him....If I had money I would back him in his endeavors... Agreed, if I had the bread I would also do so.. but it seems that anybody who has access to money that has to be counted in Sagan units only cares about enslaving the population and staying on top of the shit heap. Just use a starship coil. We need GLP.... the folks here to participate It was a person from GLP that sent John and me a sample of BP oil polluted water. In John's lab,we were able to change the polluted water back to normal water. With those results, we packed up the lab and went to the Gulf of Mexico. Contacts from GLP got us to various beaches. Early on, I tried participating in a thread here, telling people we have a solution. The OP blocked me from posting. Last year, Phenn had us on GLP Live Chat. C'mon....some of the greatest outside the box thinkers are here on GLP. You want some doom....yeah, this radiation is REALLY bad. You want to change that reality... email: [email protected] So we need some big noise canceling sharship rodin coils. Use copper tube. Can make them to any size. Could wind one around the outside of the reactor. Works with the same torus energy flow as a rodin coil, but uses the 12 in stead of the nine. Good over all frequency ranges. I don't know how big we can make it. Maybe we can build a small em shield around the area till something better can be put into place. Maybe we can build two big frequency modulated starship tesla coils and play with the hutchison effect. Maybe we can just use the weather radar stations to beam a star shape signal around the reactors. I still think bismuth is best to slow the nuclear reactions. Low melting point, also has low reaction to neutrons. I don't know. Just thinking. |
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EscapeVelocity User ID: 28995425 United States 07/24/2013 11:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Confirmed, Fire and steam from reactor 3 Fukushima.. time for plan 'z' I'm so sry for those with children, Plan /Z\ Quoting: Metatron Phi Bismuth. What fukushima needs is a large dose of pepto. Can anyone tell me what adding Bismuth to the nuclear fuel would do? We just need to bury it in lead and bismuth. With the quickness. Boiling point 2847 °F It would boil away before the pile was even at its fully realized temperature.. but like anything in nuclear physics, the only way to know for sure is to try. Last Edited by EscapeVelocity on 07/24/2013 11:35 PM "I know that the molecules in my body are traceable to phenomena in the cosmos. That makes me want to grab people on the street and say: 'Have you HEARD THIS?" -Neil deGrasse Tyson :fly_sail: If you hate my avatar.. you are going to love this.. [link to youtu.be] In Death members of Project Mayhem Have a name. His name is James M. Boyd. |
EscapeVelocity User ID: 28995425 United States 07/24/2013 11:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Confirmed, Fire and steam from reactor 3 Fukushima.. time for plan 'z' I'm so sry for those with children, Plan /Z\ Quoting: Metatron Phi Bismuth. What fukushima needs is a large dose of pepto. Can anyone tell me what adding Bismuth to the nuclear fuel would do? We just need to bury it in lead and bismuth. With the quickness. Boiling point 2847 °F It would boil away before the pile was even at its fully realized temperature.. but like anything in nuclear physics, the only way to know for sure is to try. [link to en.wikipedia.org] "I know that the molecules in my body are traceable to phenomena in the cosmos. That makes me want to grab people on the street and say: 'Have you HEARD THIS?" -Neil deGrasse Tyson :fly_sail: If you hate my avatar.. you are going to love this.. [link to youtu.be] In Death members of Project Mayhem Have a name. His name is James M. Boyd. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37343436 United States 07/24/2013 11:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Confirmed, Fire and steam from reactor 3 Fukushima.. time for plan 'z' I'm so sry for those with children, Plan /Z\ Quoting: Metatron Phi Bismuth. What fukushima needs is a large dose of pepto. Can anyone tell me what adding Bismuth to the nuclear fuel would do? :this1: We just need to bury it in lead and bismuth. With the quickness. Boiling point 2847 °F It would boil away before the pile was even at its fully realized temperature.. but like anything in nuclear physics, the only way to know for sure is to try. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Molten lead or lead-bismuth eutectic can be used as the primary coolant in a nuclear reactor, as lead and bismuth have low neutron absorption and relatively low melting points. Neutrons are less slowed by interaction with heavy nuclei, so lead and bismuth are not neutron moderators, making this type of reactor a fast-neutron reactor. The coolant does serve as a neutron reflector returning some escaping neutrons to the core. |
Inerrancia User ID: 18792782 Spain 07/24/2013 11:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Confirmed, Fire and steam from reactor 3 Fukushima.. time for plan 'z' I'm so sry for those with children, Plan /Z\ Quoting: Metatron Phi Bismuth. What fukushima needs is a large dose of pepto. Can anyone tell me what adding Bismuth to the nuclear fuel would do? We just need to bury it in lead and bismuth. With the quickness. Boiling point 2847 °F It would boil away before the pile was even at its fully realized temperature.. but like anything in nuclear physics, the only way to know for sure is to try. Try Wólfram (W) |
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EscapeVelocity User ID: 28995425 United States 07/24/2013 11:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Confirmed, Fire and steam from reactor 3 Fukushima.. time for plan 'z' I'm so sry for those with children, Plan /Z\ Quoting: Metatron Phi Bismuth. What fukushima needs is a large dose of pepto. Can anyone tell me what adding Bismuth to the nuclear fuel would do? We just need to bury it in lead and bismuth. With the quickness. Boiling point 2847 °F It would boil away before the pile was even at its fully realized temperature.. but like anything in nuclear physics, the only way to know for sure is to try. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Molten lead or lead-bismuth eutectic can be used as the primary coolant in a nuclear reactor, as lead and bismuth have low neutron absorption and relatively low melting points. Neutrons are less slowed by interaction with heavy nuclei, so lead and bismuth are not neutron moderators, making this type of reactor a fast-neutron reactor. The coolant does serve as a neutron reflector returning some escaping neutrons to the core. Sure it can be used as a coolant in fast breeder type reactors that are under control. Fast breeder plants use liquid metal to allow for a very large amount of thermal transfer in a very small space, hence their use in maritime nuclear plants. But a runaway criticality is a different beast. "I know that the molecules in my body are traceable to phenomena in the cosmos. That makes me want to grab people on the street and say: 'Have you HEARD THIS?" -Neil deGrasse Tyson :fly_sail: If you hate my avatar.. you are going to love this.. [link to youtu.be] In Death members of Project Mayhem Have a name. His name is James M. Boyd. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37343436 United States 07/24/2013 11:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Confirmed, Fire and steam from reactor 3 Fukushima.. time for plan 'z' I'm so sry for those with children, More fuel for the fire. We need to do it before muons reach 120... Right side of the page. [link to neutronm.bartol.udel.edu] |
EscapeVelocity User ID: 28995425 United States 07/24/2013 11:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Confirmed, Fire and steam from reactor 3 Fukushima.. time for plan 'z' I'm so sry for those with children, Boiling point 2847 °F It would boil away before the pile was even at its fully realized temperature.. but like anything in nuclear physics, the only way to know for sure is to try. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Molten lead or lead-bismuth eutectic can be used as the primary coolant in a nuclear reactor, as lead and bismuth have low neutron absorption and relatively low melting points. Neutrons are less slowed by interaction with heavy nuclei, so lead and bismuth are not neutron moderators, making this type of reactor a fast-neutron reactor. The coolant does serve as a neutron reflector returning some escaping neutrons to the core. Sure it can be used as a coolant in fast breeder type reactors that are under control. Fast breeder plants use liquid metal to allow for a very large amount of thermal transfer in a very small space, hence their use in maritime nuclear plants. But a runaway criticality is a different beast. Also you might not want to return neutrons to the core.. this is the principal of what a beryllium reflector works on.. used in nuclear weapons. [link to en.wikipedia.org] "I know that the molecules in my body are traceable to phenomena in the cosmos. That makes me want to grab people on the street and say: 'Have you HEARD THIS?" -Neil deGrasse Tyson :fly_sail: If you hate my avatar.. you are going to love this.. [link to youtu.be] In Death members of Project Mayhem Have a name. His name is James M. Boyd. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37343436 United States 07/24/2013 11:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Confirmed, Fire and steam from reactor 3 Fukushima.. time for plan 'z' I'm so sry for those with children, Boiling point 2847 °F It would boil away before the pile was even at its fully realized temperature.. but like anything in nuclear physics, the only way to know for sure is to try. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Molten lead or lead-bismuth eutectic can be used as the primary coolant in a nuclear reactor, as lead and bismuth have low neutron absorption and relatively low melting points. Neutrons are less slowed by interaction with heavy nuclei, so lead and bismuth are not neutron moderators, making this type of reactor a fast-neutron reactor. The coolant does serve as a neutron reflector returning some escaping neutrons to the core. Sure it can be used as a coolant in fast breeder type reactors that are under control. Fast breeder plants use liquid metal to allow for a very large amount of thermal transfer in a very small space, hence their use in maritime nuclear plants. But a runaway criticality is a different beast. What can we add to unrefine the fuel. Platinum? |
EscapeVelocity User ID: 28995425 United States 07/24/2013 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Confirmed, Fire and steam from reactor 3 Fukushima.. time for plan 'z' I'm so sry for those with children, ... Quoting: EscapeVelocity Boiling point 2847 °F It would boil away before the pile was even at its fully realized temperature.. but like anything in nuclear physics, the only way to know for sure is to try. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Molten lead or lead-bismuth eutectic can be used as the primary coolant in a nuclear reactor, as lead and bismuth have low neutron absorption and relatively low melting points. Neutrons are less slowed by interaction with heavy nuclei, so lead and bismuth are not neutron moderators, making this type of reactor a fast-neutron reactor. The coolant does serve as a neutron reflector returning some escaping neutrons to the core. Sure it can be used as a coolant in fast breeder type reactors that are under control. Fast breeder plants use liquid metal to allow for a very large amount of thermal transfer in a very small space, hence their use in maritime nuclear plants. But a runaway criticality is a different beast. What can we add to unrefine the fuel. Platinum? Sand. Melts with the fuel and encases it in a molten lava mass.. it will increase the heat considerably for a while but the end result is a glass encased fuel product that is quite stable after the fact. It goes on to form crystal lattice known as chernobylite that can endure in that form without risk of prompt criticality indefinitely. [link to en.wikipedia.org] The effects of which has now been understood since the 90s. But then there is the added risk of distribution of fission products via particulate matter that is easily carried on the wind.. still better than risk of criticality excursion based on proper geometry Last Edited by EscapeVelocity on 07/24/2013 11:59 PM "I know that the molecules in my body are traceable to phenomena in the cosmos. That makes me want to grab people on the street and say: 'Have you HEARD THIS?" -Neil deGrasse Tyson :fly_sail: If you hate my avatar.. you are going to love this.. [link to youtu.be] In Death members of Project Mayhem Have a name. His name is James M. Boyd. |