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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26255514 United States 07/25/2013 05:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One of the first conspiracy threads on Sandy Hook asked if automatic weapons were used due to the very high number of shots fired vs fatalities + time. Seems highly likely to me anyway though I thought all the doors in the school were either wood, glass or a combination of both. Interesting. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44022421 United States 07/25/2013 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And then we have President Obama's infamous statement that a fully automatic weapon was used. And the way he said it was as a kind of emphasis, too, which is odd: "Now, over the next couple of months, we’ve got a couple of issues: gun control. (Applause.) I just came from Denver, where the issue of gun violence is something that has haunted families for way too long, and it is possible for us to create common-sense gun safety measures that respect the traditions of gun ownership in this country and hunters and sportsmen, but also make sure that we don’t have another 20 children in a classroom gunned down by a semiautomatic weapon -- by a fully automatic weapon in that case, sadly. " [link to www.whitehouse.gov] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44022421 United States 07/25/2013 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's another alleged eyewitness report from the same guy, this time calling himself "Ken Aldrich:" "love this page will bookmark!! I have a bunch of things to add!! but I'm going to go slow one at a time for sake of clarity..#1 I'm from ct. roughly 15 mins away from sandy hook. I live in a city called "new haven" in new haven we have a place called metal management where they "render" metal or recycle metal items. at this site there is a MASSIVE crusher..on the 16th dec. 2012 the sandy hook school principals door pieces of school wall with bullet holes in them desks and etc were crushed down the street from me..there wasa video capture from some news outlet that even broadcast images of that principals door..the door appeared to be RIDDLED with holes bullet hole. the point here? well there are 2 points! #1 why crush evidence and #2 if that door were as filled with bullet holes as I saw for myself then it's pretty clear to me that the weapon was a full auto not a SEMI auto..but ok the items were crushed so we can only ponder this ..sadly. however the action of bringing all of this evidence into another town in the middle of the night looks suspicious to me and yet it surely DID happen. your thoughts? oh btw I have MUCH MOE but lets see how this goes first...kenny" [link to www.brendanhunt.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44022421 United States 07/25/2013 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's an excerpt from the the equally-bizarre Newark story: "Money for a Newark gun buyback by helping promote a bracelet line made from the city’s melted guns and bullet casings. The new collection from Jessica Mindich’s Connecticut-based for-profit company Jewelry for a Cause was prompted by lack of funding for Newark’s Gun Buyback Amnesty program, last held in 2011. Booker decided that recycling the city’s weapons into a “powerful symbol of renewal” would raise awareness about gun control and buyback programs. The Newark Police Department collected 250 guns and bullet casings from crime scenes and from anonymous city residents, and Sims Metal Management in Jersey City processed the weapons. The jewelry line actually went on sale in late November just before the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting intensified the debate on gun control. Booker wrote a blog entry for the Huffington Post in the wake of the Newtown tragedy, where he outlined his ideas for gun reform, including universal background checks that involve mental health assessments and more efficient anti-trafficking laws. However, Senator Lautenberg has criticized Booker for taking a relatively moderate stance on gun control considering Newark’s high gun crime rate. The bracelets are made of brass or steel, and are engraved with “Newark” on one side and the former weapon’s serial number on the other. Prices range from $150 to $375, and the most expensive cuffs and bangles feature an .11-carat diamond embedded next to the serial number. A portion of the profits will help fund future gun buybacks in Newark. The collection has raised $20,000 since it debuted. You can buy the pieces online at calibercollection.com." [link to njmonthly.com] And the reference to Sims: "Jessica Mindich launched the Caliber Collection after meeting Mayor Booker at a conference in 2011. The Caliber Collection is made up of metal from 250 guns and bullet casings seized by the Newark Police Department. Jewelry for a Cause, Mindich’s company, proudly donates a portion of the proceeds from each sale to the Gun Buyback Amnesty program in Newark. The name Caliber was chosen for its two meanings; the caliber of a gun and how the caliber of a city is raised when illegal guns are taken off its streets. Each of the guns was carefully processed and released to Jewelry for a Cause by Newark PD. The guns were shredded at no charge by Sims Metal Management, which has operations in Newark. The Caliber bangles are marked on the inside with the serial number from the weapon and "Newark." Prices range from $150 from a basic steel cuff to $375 for brass bangle with a diamond - sold online at www.jewelryforacause.net. Mindich this month presented the city and police officials with a check for $20,000 -- proceeds from six weeks of sales!" [link to www.newarkpulse.com] Makes me wonder if there is some kind of sick, underground market for jewelry made from Sandy Hook metal. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59203351 United States 06/14/2014 09:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | " kirk watstien 1 month ago Quoting: Thalassa 33981383 yes sir, the day after the principals door and wall pieces were cut out of the school and destroyed at metal management in new haven ct. dec 16th 3am I was there I saw it it was fully automatic spray pattern anyone could see it. that's why it's crushed..so you (or whomever) can call ME the liar..why would I lie? I'm "nobody" why would I bother....I'm a witness to that destruction I can TAKE you there right where it was crushed. the whole sandy hook narrative is a lie. all of it." [link to www.youtube.com] Well, they were indeed using SIMS: "On 1/4/2013 at approximately 1130 hours, Newtown Officers McGowan and Moncl<ton escorted a roll off container of metal desks, chairs, and other metal removed from the school to SIMS metal management at 234 Universal Drive North Haven CT. Ofc. McGowan witnessed tile destruction of these items." Book 2, 00198991 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59203351 United States 06/14/2014 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | " kirk watstien 1 month ago Quoting: Thalassa 33981383 yes sir, the day after the principals door and wall pieces were cut out of the school and destroyed at metal management in new haven ct. dec 16th 3am I was there I saw it it was fully automatic spray pattern anyone could see it. that's why it's crushed..so you (or whomever) can call ME the liar..why would I lie? I'm "nobody" why would I bother....I'm a witness to that destruction I can TAKE you there right where it was crushed. the whole sandy hook narrative is a lie. all of it." [link to www.youtube.com] Well, they were indeed using SIMS: "On 1/4/2013 at approximately 1130 hours, Newtown Officers McGowan and Moncl<ton escorted a roll off container of metal desks, chairs, and other metal removed from the school to SIMS metal management at 234 Universal Drive North Haven CT. Ofc. McGowan witnessed tile destruction of these items." Book 2, 00198991 Sorry--don't actually know if that's book 2. |
Ericm User ID: 31422194 United States 06/22/2014 11:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | " kirk watstien 1 month ago Quoting: Thalassa 33981383 yes sir, the day after the principals door and wall pieces were cut out of the school and destroyed at metal management in new haven ct. dec 16th 3am I was there I saw it it was fully automatic spray pattern anyone could see it. that's why it's crushed..so you (or whomever) can call ME the liar..why would I lie? I'm "nobody" why would I bother....I'm a witness to that destruction I can TAKE you there right where it was crushed. the whole sandy hook narrative is a lie. all of it." [link to www.youtube.com] Well, they were indeed using SIMS: "On 1/4/2013 at approximately 1130 hours, Newtown Officers McGowan and Moncl<ton escorted a roll off container of metal desks, chairs, and other metal removed from the school to SIMS metal management at 234 Universal Drive North Haven CT. Ofc. McGowan witnessed tile destruction of these items." Book 2, 00198991 Damning! Simply damning! Why the hell would they destroy this stuff? Link to document [link to drive.google.com (secure)] |
Ericm User ID: 31422194 United States 06/22/2014 11:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting. That document lists techs that worked for Clean Harbors on the cleanup. I did a simple search William Wencil on LinkedIn. Zero connections. Listed as a field tech for Clean Harbors. [link to www.linkedin.com (secure)] A bit odd that someone is listed on LinkedIn and has zero connections... |
Let Freedom Ring 365 User ID: 51565483 United States 06/23/2014 12:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are the creator of your own master plan... Make it a good one. Wake the fuk up and be ready... This is absolutely no time to be stupid! “If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.” - Nikola Tesla |
Lil Sis User ID: 59541918 United States 06/23/2014 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This crusher is the big brother to the shredders that do the politicians' evidence. "Sorry, it went to the shredder, but we can tell you there was nothing important in it..." "Sorry, it went to the crusher, but we can tell you there was nothing there to see..." ************************************************************************ Corruptisima re publica plurimae leges. ~ Terence |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23740836 United States 07/04/2014 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's another alleged eyewitness report from the same guy, this time calling himself "Ken Aldrich:" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44022421 "love this page will bookmark!! I have a bunch of things to add!! but I'm going to go slow one at a time for sake of clarity..#1 I'm from ct. roughly 15 mins away from sandy hook. I live in a city called "new haven" in new haven we have a place called metal management where they "render" metal or recycle metal items. at this site there is a MASSIVE crusher..on the 16th dec. 2012 the sandy hook school principals door pieces of school wall with bullet holes in them desks and etc were crushed down the street from me..there wasa video capture from some news outlet that even broadcast images of that principals door..the door appeared to be RIDDLED with holes bullet hole. the point here? well there are 2 points! #1 why crush evidence and #2 if that door were as filled with bullet holes as I saw for myself then it's pretty clear to me that the weapon was a full auto not a SEMI auto..but ok the items were crushed so we can only ponder this ..sadly. however the action of bringing all of this evidence into another town in the middle of the night looks suspicious to me and yet it surely DID happen. your thoughts? oh btw I have MUCH MOE but lets see how this goes first...kenny" [link to www.brendanhunt.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 21143639 United States 12/30/2014 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Recapping Kirk/Kenny: ---- " kirk watstien 1 month ago yes sir, the day after the principals door and wall pieces were cut out of the school and destroyed at metal management in new haven ct. dec 16th 3am I was there I saw it it was fully automatic spray pattern anyone could see it. that's why it's crushed..so you (or whomever) can call ME the liar..why would I lie? I'm "nobody" why would I bother....I'm a witness to that destruction I can TAKE you there; right where it was crushed. the whole sandy hook narrative is a lie. all of it. ---- I have a bunch of things to add!! but I'm going to go slow one at a time for sake of clarity..#1 I'm from ct. roughly 15 mins away from sandy hook. I live in a city called "new haven" in new haven we have a place called metal management where they "render" metal or recycle metal items. at this site there is a MASSIVE crusher..on the 16th dec. 2012 the sandy hook school principals door pieces of school wall with bullet holes in them desks and etc were crushed down the street from me..there wasa video capture from some news outlet that even broadcast images of that principals door..the door appeared to be RIDDLED with holes bullet hole. the point here? well there are 2 points! #1 why crush evidence and #2 if that door were as filled with bullet holes as I saw for myself then it's pretty clear to me that the weapon was a full auto not a SEMI auto..but ok the items were crushed so we can only ponder this ..sadly. however the action of bringing all of this evidence into another town in the middle of the night looks suspicious to me and yet it surely DID happen. your thoughts? oh btw I have MUCH MOE but lets see how this goes first...kenny" ---- How does this jive with the NPD officer Silver's report on the destruction of desks January 4th, 2013? "On 1/4/2013 at approximately 1130 hours, Newtown Officers McGowan and Monckton escorted a roll off container of metal desks, chairs, and other metal removed from the school to SIMS metal management at 234 Universal Drive North Haven CT. Ofc. McGowan witnessed tile destruction of these items." (00198991) I think it would pay to look very closely at which particular officers were entrusted with the most sensitive post-incident work. I find it very strange--almost unthinkable--that the CT State Police, with it's (lawyer's) iron grip on the investigation, would give Newtown oversight some of the most sensitive DNA. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 66554514 United States 01/02/2015 09:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it should be possible to FOIA Sims Metal Management's records for both December 15, and January 4. I don't care how hard and fast Sedensky scrambled--he couldn't possibly have found everyone in time to give them a nondisclosure order. SOMEone, somewhere, is going to speak out--some Sims worker or janitor or passerby. They already did, kind of--someone leaked right here on GLP, well in advance of the final report, that desks were destroyed at Sims December 15th in the wee hours. |