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Heavenly Alchemy (OP) User ID: 41544924 United States 07/26/2013 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wondered the same thing, so looked through the first article: [link to whowhatwhy.com] We lifted the yellow tape and walked down the sidewalk to get access to the alley leading to the lot where my car was parked. A Los Angeles police officer stopped us. Nancy explained she owned the restaurant and I identified myself as a reporter. The officer let us walk on and gave a quick rundown: A man had driven into the tree at 4:30 that morning. He was dead. My first thought was that another early morning L.A. drunk had killed himself. I told the officer that a security camera located outside the front door of the pizzeria probably captured the crash. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26165384 United States 07/26/2013 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think I am seeing an explosion as the vehicle is traveling forward. Then vehicle swerves and more explosion. Didn't they initially say the car HIT the tree and exploded, And then we all said, after seeing photos, that the vehicle rested up against the tree but did not really hit it with force. He was assassinated for sure. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 40814244 United States 07/26/2013 09:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wondered the same thing, so looked through the first article: [link to whowhatwhy.com] We lifted the yellow tape and walked down the sidewalk to get access to the alley leading to the lot where my car was parked. A Los Angeles police officer stopped us. Nancy explained she owned the restaurant and I identified myself as a reporter. The officer let us walk on and gave a quick rundown: A man had driven into the tree at 4:30 that morning. He was dead. My first thought was that another early morning L.A. drunk had killed himself. I told the officer that a security camera located outside the front door of the pizzeria probably captured the crash. I've got 16 self-installed security cameras on my property. They shake in wind. Some more than others. It looks like a lot of the cam footage I've seen. I think it was a mounted cam that was either a little loose or blowin' in the wind. |
katballoo User ID: 40264873 Canada 07/26/2013 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For someone who is supposed to be noted as a slow driver, it seems that he is going exceptionally fast. Who knows...maybe the same thing that caused the Toyota to accelerate mysteriously, caused this Mercedes to accelerate on it's own. Mysteriously...of course. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2099430 United States 07/26/2013 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wondered the same thing, so looked through the first article: [link to whowhatwhy.com] We lifted the yellow tape and walked down the sidewalk to get access to the alley leading to the lot where my car was parked. A Los Angeles police officer stopped us. Nancy explained she owned the restaurant and I identified myself as a reporter. The officer let us walk on and gave a quick rundown: A man had driven into the tree at 4:30 that morning. He was dead. My first thought was that another early morning L.A. drunk had killed himself. I told the officer that a security camera located outside the front door of the pizzeria probably captured the crash. I've got 16 self-installed security cameras on my property. They shake in wind. Some more than others. It looks like a lot of the cam footage I've seen. I think it was a mounted cam that was either a little loose or blowin' in the wind. Need a weather report from that location at time of crash. |
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Mr. Shatner User ID: 35524169 United States 07/26/2013 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm thinking that the video is shaky because it is being filmed from a camera or phone off of a screen or monitor. On a side note, if a car can blow up like that, I am going to stop driving! [link to youtu.be (secure)] I'M SO DEPLORABLE!!! TRUMP 2020! [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] On the day when the wagons come I just pray that you let me on Matthew 6:9-13 King James Version (KJV) 9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. 10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. 11 Give us this day our daily bread. 12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. 13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen. Matthew 24:42 - Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036137 United States 07/26/2013 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One thing I want to point out......... His tail lights go out for a second before the first explosion. I suggest he may have had a short in his fuel tank. Sometimes fuel pumps melt from being old and worn. Fuel cools the pump. Sometimes, rarely, when the connections work loose from a melting pump (which is rare but does happen) and the fuel tank is on empty stretching the last bit......a short circuit can occur when the 12v + wire touches the - wire. They are only inches apart and submerged in gas or gas vapor. Or sometimes the ground line connecting the block to the frame can be removed or fails. Leaving a strong ground current to travel through the throttle cable or transmission shift control cable. Both of which can catch fire from the amps running down it. Fire is no good in an engine bay. Especially if there is a leaky fuel pressure regulator. Or a fuel line bursts..... Just providing options |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40814244 United States 07/26/2013 09:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wondered the same thing, so looked through the first article: [link to whowhatwhy.com] We lifted the yellow tape and walked down the sidewalk to get access to the alley leading to the lot where my car was parked. A Los Angeles police officer stopped us. Nancy explained she owned the restaurant and I identified myself as a reporter. The officer let us walk on and gave a quick rundown: A man had driven into the tree at 4:30 that morning. He was dead. My first thought was that another early morning L.A. drunk had killed himself. I told the officer that a security camera located outside the front door of the pizzeria probably captured the crash. I've got 16 self-installed security cameras on my property. They shake in wind. Some more than others. It looks like a lot of the cam footage I've seen. I think it was a mounted cam that was either a little loose or blowin' in the wind. Need a weather report from that location at time of crash. Good point. I should clarify, it usually takes a decent gust to make mine shake. |
Desert Fox User ID: 8786935 United States 07/26/2013 09:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm thinking that the video is shaky because it is being filmed from a camera or phone off of a screen or monitor. Quoting: Mr. Shatner On a side note, if a car can blow up like that, I am going to stop driving! Better stop driving then. Even race cars designed for 200 mph+ blow like a bomb. :TOMABANEFOX: It's more humane this way ya know, or burn on totem pole. Choice is yours. |
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Heavenly Alchemy (OP) User ID: 41544924 United States 07/26/2013 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Heavenly Alchemy I wondered the same thing, so looked through the first article: [link to whowhatwhy.com] We lifted the yellow tape and walked down the sidewalk to get access to the alley leading to the lot where my car was parked. A Los Angeles police officer stopped us. Nancy explained she owned the restaurant and I identified myself as a reporter. The officer let us walk on and gave a quick rundown: A man had driven into the tree at 4:30 that morning. He was dead. My first thought was that another early morning L.A. drunk had killed himself. I told the officer that a security camera located outside the front door of the pizzeria probably captured the crash. I've got 16 self-installed security cameras on my property. They shake in wind. Some more than others. It looks like a lot of the cam footage I've seen. I think it was a mounted cam that was either a little loose or blowin' in the wind. Need a weather report from that location at time of crash. Good point. I should clarify, it usually takes a decent gust to make mine shake. This is a good question. Hold on I'm looking... Okay, found a weather report from the 19th: [link to losangeles.cbslocal.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43970931 United States 07/26/2013 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AS fast as he was going you could expect a pretty nice explosion. But there a couple things: It seems the small explosion happened before he hit And the big explosion, well... it's just TOO damn big. Car bomb for sure. Professional. So I'm guessing they used C4 or a newer type of explosive, and not TNT(dynamite). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2099430 United States 07/26/2013 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One thing I want to point out......... Quoting: --Voltaic-- His tail lights go out for a second before the first explosion. I suggest he may have had a short in his fuel tank. Sometimes fuel pumps melt from being old and worn. Fuel cools the pump. Sometimes, rarely, when the connections work loose from a melting pump (which is rare but does happen) and the fuel tank is on empty stretching the last bit......a short circuit can occur when the 12v + wire touches the - wire. They are only inches apart and submerged in gas or gas vapor. Or sometimes the ground line connecting the block to the frame can be removed or fails. Leaving a strong ground current to travel through the throttle cable or transmission shift control cable. Both of which can catch fire from the amps running down it. Fire is no good in an engine bay. Especially if there is a leaky fuel pressure regulator. Or a fuel line bursts..... Just providing options It was a nearly new Mercedes Benz, not an old hacked up craigslist special. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2099430 United States 07/26/2013 09:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40814244 I've got 16 self-installed security cameras on my property. They shake in wind. Some more than others. It looks like a lot of the cam footage I've seen. I think it was a mounted cam that was either a little loose or blowin' in the wind. Need a weather report from that location at time of crash. Good point. I should clarify, it usually takes a decent gust to make mine shake. This is a good question. Hold on I'm looking... Okay, found a weather report from the 19th: [link to losangeles.cbslocal.com] Check wunderground for local weather stations too. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40814244 United States 07/26/2013 09:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because it's somebody filming a video being played on a monitor. The explosion seems bigger than it probably really was because the camera was in night-vision mode and the lights overwhelmed the sensor. An overly-bright light (such as lightning) will make the security cam display in color, thinking it is daytime. Check out a security cam at night during a thunderstorm. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4637200 United States 07/26/2013 09:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And then there's this. [link to www.businessinsider.com] I've raced cars and will tell you, a stuck accelerator is a death sentence. No way to control a speeding out of control car. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2099430 United States 07/26/2013 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And then there's this. Quoting: N3m3s1s [link to www.businessinsider.com] I've raced cars and will tell you, a stuck accelerator is a death sentence. No way to control a speeding out of control car. Neutral, always hit neutral, never forget. Don't touch the key, steering wheel will lock. Neutral. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036137 United States 07/26/2013 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One thing I want to point out......... Quoting: --Voltaic-- His tail lights go out for a second before the first explosion. I suggest he may have had a short in his fuel tank. Sometimes fuel pumps melt from being old and worn. Fuel cools the pump. Sometimes, rarely, when the connections work loose from a melting pump (which is rare but does happen) and the fuel tank is on empty stretching the last bit......a short circuit can occur when the 12v + wire touches the - wire. They are only inches apart and submerged in gas or gas vapor. Or sometimes the ground line connecting the block to the frame can be removed or fails. Leaving a strong ground current to travel through the throttle cable or transmission shift control cable. Both of which can catch fire from the amps running down it. Fire is no good in an engine bay. Especially if there is a leaky fuel pressure regulator. Or a fuel line bursts..... Just providing options It was a nearly new Mercedes Benz, not an old hacked up craigslist special. All too often a new product fails far to early. I have even installed a new item only to find it was dead. |
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Heavenly Alchemy (OP) User ID: 41544924 United States 07/26/2013 09:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One thing I want to point out......... Quoting: --Voltaic-- His tail lights go out for a second before the first explosion. I suggest he may have had a short in his fuel tank. Sometimes fuel pumps melt from being old and worn. Fuel cools the pump. Sometimes, rarely, when the connections work loose from a melting pump (which is rare but does happen) and the fuel tank is on empty stretching the last bit......a short circuit can occur when the 12v + wire touches the - wire. They are only inches apart and submerged in gas or gas vapor. Or sometimes the ground line connecting the block to the frame can be removed or fails. Leaving a strong ground current to travel through the throttle cable or transmission shift control cable. Both of which can catch fire from the amps running down it. Fire is no good in an engine bay. Especially if there is a leaky fuel pressure regulator. Or a fuel line bursts..... Just providing options Interesting options to look into. Though this being a brand new car it seems unlikely that the connections would work loose or that he fuel pump would have been old and worn.. I don't know a thing about cars though. Can someone verify these possibilities? It seems strange that the tail lights would go out just before the first explosion though. What sort of things could cause that? |
Heavenly Alchemy (OP) User ID: 41544924 United States 07/26/2013 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And then there's this. Quoting: N3m3s1s [link to www.businessinsider.com] I've raced cars and will tell you, a stuck accelerator is a death sentence. No way to control a speeding out of control car. Neutral, always hit neutral, never forget. Don't touch the key, steering wheel will lock. Neutral. Good information to have! Good point. I should clarify, it usually takes a decent gust to make mine shake. This is a good question. Hold on I'm looking... Okay, found a weather report from the 19th: [link to losangeles.cbslocal.com] Check wunderground for local weather stations too. Good idea, thanks. Last Edited by Heavenly Alchemy on 07/26/2013 09:37 PM |