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Tekunda (OP) User ID: 44089442 Germany 07/27/2013 07:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why can't god and evolution exist together. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466471 Who better then the creator to set a system of continued advancement/improvement to his creation?? But in the case of the brain it should be clear that a system of continued improvement will not work. Exactly what I stated would happen: until the continued improvement would get - after millions of years - the intricate balance of neurotransmitters right, we would have thousands upon thousands of generations of mentally deformed animals, which, by evolution's own laws could not survive because they were just not fit enough to survive with their catastrophic mental issues. Last Edited by Tekunda on 07/27/2013 07:59 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36553700 United Kingdom 07/27/2013 07:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A myriad of neurotransmitters and brain chemicals is needed for a properly functional brain. Quoting: Tekunda But not only this, these chemicals have to exist in a perfectly fine-tuned balance. If this balance is off just by a tiny bit, the results are catastrophic. Horrendous mental diseases develop in such a scenario. Now evolution teaches that everything came into existence due to random mutations, trial and error and the survival of the fittest and this combined with time, lots of time, millions of years. So then, if we follow this evolutionary logic, it would mean that generation upon generation of mentally sick "zombie animals" would have roamed the surface of the earth until finally the intricate balance of neurotransmitters had been established. Of course we know that such a scenario would be impossible. If generation upon generation of mentally retarded animals, generations of animals with the most horrific mental diseases one can imagine were really born, we know that such beings would just die out. And since such a chemical imbalance would affect all animals with a brain, we would see a massive die off. And the fossil record would show us grossly deformed animals with myriads of mental diseases. But if evolution could not achieve this - for the survival absolutely necessary - balance of neurotransmitters, what could? read the old testament its full of humans that would be classed as mentally imbalanced , raping , pilaging and murder all ordered by god. god in the old testament would equal the mentally imbalanced humans op is looking for in history. |
artMan User ID: 41936247 Sweden 07/27/2013 08:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have a car.. and you do random changes to the car. Sometimes, you add a piece of wood, here, sometimes you remove a bolt, sometimes you weld a piece of metal here and there. And then, all of a sudden you end up with a airplane. Yeah right. Imagine the amount of weird (cars!?) you would be able to dig up.. before the plane was reached. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1466471 Canada 07/27/2013 08:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Imagine evolution like this: Quoting: artMan You have a car.. and you do random changes to the car. Sometimes, you add a piece of wood, here, sometimes you remove a bolt, sometimes you weld a piece of metal here and there. And then, all of a sudden you end up with a airplane. Yeah right. Imagine the amount of weird (cars!?) you would be able to dig up.. before the plane was reached. Neanderthals not strange enough for you?? |
Tekunda (OP) User ID: 44089442 Germany 07/27/2013 08:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A myriad of neurotransmitters and brain chemicals is needed for a properly functional brain. Quoting: Tekunda But not only this, these chemicals have to exist in a perfectly fine-tuned balance. If this balance is off just by a tiny bit, the results are catastrophic. Horrendous mental diseases develop in such a scenario. Now evolution teaches that everything came into existence due to random mutations, trial and error and the survival of the fittest and this combined with time, lots of time, millions of years. So then, if we follow this evolutionary logic, it would mean that generation upon generation of mentally sick "zombie animals" would have roamed the surface of the earth until finally the intricate balance of neurotransmitters had been established. Of course we know that such a scenario would be impossible. If generation upon generation of mentally retarded animals, generations of animals with the most horrific mental diseases one can imagine were really born, we know that such beings would just die out. And since such a chemical imbalance would affect all animals with a brain, we would see a massive die off. And the fossil record would show us grossly deformed animals with myriads of mental diseases. But if evolution could not achieve this - for the survival absolutely necessary - balance of neurotransmitters, what could? read the old testament its full of humans that would be classed as mentally imbalanced , raping , pilaging and murder all ordered by god. god in the old testament would equal the mentally imbalanced humans op is looking for in history. I don't remember I claimed that God achieved this balance. I believe that I have proven, that for evolution to get this balance right in a timely manner, would have been next to impossible. So all I asked is that if evolution could not achieve it, what could? And that there are mentally imbalanced people in the Bible is nothing special. There are many books with caracthers like that, i.e. Moby Dick and Capt. Ahab. |
artMan User ID: 41936247 Sweden 07/27/2013 08:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Imagine evolution like this: Quoting: artMan You have a car.. and you do random changes to the car. Sometimes, you add a piece of wood, here, sometimes you remove a bolt, sometimes you weld a piece of metal here and there. And then, all of a sudden you end up with a airplane. Yeah right. Imagine the amount of weird (cars!?) you would be able to dig up.. before the plane was reached. Neanderthals not strange enough for you?? No |
Tekunda (OP) User ID: 44089442 Germany 07/27/2013 08:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Imagine evolution like this: Quoting: artMan You have a car.. and you do random changes to the car. Sometimes, you add a piece of wood, here, sometimes you remove a bolt, sometimes you weld a piece of metal here and there. And then, all of a sudden you end up with a airplane. Yeah right. Imagine the amount of weird (cars!?) you would be able to dig up.. before the plane was reached. Neanderthals not strange enough for you?? The question of a perfect balance of neurochemicals would affect all species with a brain. So let us assume that the Neanderthals were mentally challenged but what about the rest of the species with a brain? How come they all had perfectly working brains.... right from the very beginning they showed up on this earth? |
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nah User ID: 39685812 United States 07/27/2013 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why can't god and evolution exist together. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466471 Who better then the creator to set a system of continued advancement/improvement to his creation?? You have to look at the cycle of life, once things come to fruition, they begin their decline. If evolution was at all possible, things would get better instead of rotting. When you find a piece of shit along side the road and you poke it with a stick, what do you expect to find inside of it, gold? No, it's just going to stink more. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44127132 Germany 07/27/2013 08:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What you dont understand is that it took millions of years. It took for example some thousand years for humans to be able to process cows milk and wheat.. some cant until this day and have to suffer when they consume it.. Earth is a rather stable enviroment and some changes happen over millenia and animals as humans have enoug time to adapt. Its a fact that dinosaurs lived here and when the circusmtances changed drasticly most of them died. But many animals from that time survived cause they were faster to adapt. -------- In our time the enviroment we lvie in changed drasticly and many people infact are dying and suffering cause their neurotransmitters are out of tune.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44123783 Germany 07/27/2013 08:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why can't god and evolution exist together. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466471 Who better then the creator to set a system of continued advancement/improvement to his creation?? You have to look at the cycle of life, once things come to fruition, they begin their decline. If evolution was at all possible, things would get better instead of rotting. Ying Yang. Its all part of growing. |
artMan User ID: 41936247 Sweden 07/27/2013 08:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What you dont understand is that it took millions of years. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44127132 It took for example some thousand years for humans to be able to process cows milk and wheat.. some cant until this day and have to suffer when they consume it.. Earth is a rather stable enviroment and some changes happen over millenia and animals as humans have enoug time to adapt. Its a fact that dinosaurs lived here and when the circusmtances changed drasticly most of them died. But many animals from that time survived cause they were faster to adapt. -------- In our time the enviroment we lvie in changed drasticly and many people infact are dying and suffering cause their neurotransmitters are out of tune.. What you don't know is that the concept of darwinism and evolution as it is today, have already been disproved in the lab. Genetic "mutations" don't happen randomly. There's nothing random about the "evolution". The nature is efficient when it does something. Randomness is extremely inefficient. |
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nah User ID: 39685812 United States 07/27/2013 08:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why can't god and evolution exist together. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466471 Who better then the creator to set a system of continued advancement/improvement to his creation?? You have to look at the cycle of life, once things come to fruition, they begin their decline. If evolution was at all possible, things would get better instead of rotting. Ying Yang. Its all part of growing. I do not believe in opposite concepts. Concepts are not reality. Last Edited by nah-t on 07/27/2013 08:35 AM When you find a piece of shit along side the road and you poke it with a stick, what do you expect to find inside of it, gold? No, it's just going to stink more. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44123783 Germany 07/27/2013 08:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What you dont understand is that it took millions of years. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44127132 It took for example some thousand years for humans to be able to process cows milk and wheat.. some cant until this day and have to suffer when they consume it.. Earth is a rather stable enviroment and some changes happen over millenia and animals as humans have enoug time to adapt. Its a fact that dinosaurs lived here and when the circusmtances changed drasticly most of them died. But many animals from that time survived cause they were faster to adapt. -------- In our time the enviroment we lvie in changed drasticly and many people infact are dying and suffering cause their neurotransmitters are out of tune.. What you don't know is that the concept of darwinism and evolution as it is today, have already been disproved in the lab. Genetic "mutations" don't happen randomly. There's nothing random about the "evolution". The nature is efficient when it does something. Randomness is extremely inefficient. Random = Chaos = We just don't know how it works. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44123783 Germany 07/27/2013 08:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why can't god and evolution exist together. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466471 Who better then the creator to set a system of continued advancement/improvement to his creation?? You have to look at the cycle of life, once things come to fruition, they begin their decline. If evolution was at all possible, things would get better instead of rotting. Ying Yang. Its all part of growing. I do not believe in opposite concepts. Concepts are not reality. then you don't nature there are everywhere opposites. Without a Positive and Negative the Whole verse would not work. |
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nah User ID: 39685812 United States 07/27/2013 09:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: nah You have to look at the cycle of life, once things come to fruition, they begin their decline. If evolution was at all possible, things would get better instead of rotting. Ying Yang. Its all part of growing. I do not believe in opposite concepts. Concepts are not reality. then you don't nature there are everywhere opposites. Without a Positive and Negative the Whole verse would not work. Positive and negative can only be physical forces. But there is a third force that repels or attracts so 3 does not make 2 opposites. When you find a piece of shit along side the road and you poke it with a stick, what do you expect to find inside of it, gold? No, it's just going to stink more. |
artMan User ID: 41936247 Sweden 07/27/2013 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What you dont understand is that it took millions of years. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44127132 It took for example some thousand years for humans to be able to process cows milk and wheat.. some cant until this day and have to suffer when they consume it.. Earth is a rather stable enviroment and some changes happen over millenia and animals as humans have enoug time to adapt. Its a fact that dinosaurs lived here and when the circusmtances changed drasticly most of them died. But many animals from that time survived cause they were faster to adapt. -------- In our time the enviroment we lvie in changed drasticly and many people infact are dying and suffering cause their neurotransmitters are out of tune.. What you don't know is that the concept of darwinism and evolution as it is today, have already been disproved in the lab. Genetic "mutations" don't happen randomly. There's nothing random about the "evolution". The nature is efficient when it does something. Randomness is extremely inefficient. Random = Chaos = We just don't know how it works. Well.. it's neither random nor chaos. And yes, we do know how it works. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44123783 Germany 07/27/2013 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What you dont understand is that it took millions of years. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44127132 It took for example some thousand years for humans to be able to process cows milk and wheat.. some cant until this day and have to suffer when they consume it.. Earth is a rather stable enviroment and some changes happen over millenia and animals as humans have enoug time to adapt. Its a fact that dinosaurs lived here and when the circusmtances changed drasticly most of them died. But many animals from that time survived cause they were faster to adapt. -------- In our time the enviroment we lvie in changed drasticly and many people infact are dying and suffering cause their neurotransmitters are out of tune.. What you don't know is that the concept of darwinism and evolution as it is today, have already been disproved in the lab. Genetic "mutations" don't happen randomly. There's nothing random about the "evolution". The nature is efficient when it does something. Randomness is extremely inefficient. Random = Chaos = We just don't know how it works. Well.. it's neither random nor chaos. And yes, we do know how it works. If they knew how it works then earth wouldn't be fucked up as it is |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41936247 Sweden 07/27/2013 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: artMan What you don't know is that the concept of darwinism and evolution as it is today, have already been disproved in the lab. Genetic "mutations" don't happen randomly. There's nothing random about the "evolution". The nature is efficient when it does something. Randomness is extremely inefficient. Random = Chaos = We just don't know how it works. Well.. it's neither random nor chaos. And yes, we do know how it works. If they knew how it works then earth wouldn't be fucked up as it is And why would that be? |
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