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I have the secret teaching of all ages but have not finished it yet. Any suggestions?
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The Bible.

Old and New Testaments, they belong together.

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The kyballion. put the laws together and how the y overlay and you would be surprise by the picture they paint. The occult is just the exploration and expansion on these basic principles. Don't waste your time with mental masterbation, ie the attempt to understand the occult as most of the keys were lost, and can be understood in present time with out all the mental gymnastics.
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Yes, you should definitely start with the Kybalion.

[link to www.kybalion.org]
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The kyballion. put the laws together and how the y overlay and you would be surprise by the picture they paint. The occult is just the exploration and expansion on these basic principles. Don't waste your time with mental masterbation, ie the attempt to understand the occult as most of the keys were lost, and can be understood in present time with out all the mental gymnastics.
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Yes, you should definitely start with the Kybalion.

[link to www.kybalion.org]
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A wise man.
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The kyballion. put the laws together and how the y overlay and you would be surprise by the picture they paint. The occult is just the exploration and expansion on these basic principles. Don't waste your time with mental masterbation, ie the attempt to understand the occult as most of the keys were lost, and can be understood in present time with out all the mental gymnastics.
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Yes, you should definitely start with the Kybalion.

[link to www.kybalion.org]
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Yes, my sentiments exactly...a powerfully profound & simple little book.
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The kyballion. put the laws together and how the y overlay and you would be surprise by the picture they paint. The occult is just the exploration and expansion on these basic principles. Don't waste your time with mental masterbation, ie the attempt to understand the occult as most of the keys were lost, and can be understood in present time with out all the mental gymnastics.
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Yes, you should definitely start with the Kybalion.

[link to www.kybalion.org]
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Yes, my sentiments exactly...a powerfully profound & simple little book.
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Well said. Can be read in one sitting but can take a lifetime to fully integrate it into a better understanding and experience of the SELF. Which is the eventual goal.
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the bible...
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Any companion guide reccommendations?
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Eliphas Levi, author of "Dogma and Ritual of Higher Magic"
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The Kybalion By Three Initiates

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If you play with this interest it will eventually destroy you . Always does , telling you the truth OP .
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How can researching a subject destroy you!?
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If you play with this interest it will eventually destroy you . Always does , telling you the truth OP .
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How can researching a subject destroy you!?
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Showing interest in a subject of a low vibrational nature does invite lower frequency energies in, however, I feel that the subject of the occult is not low level by nature...you just need to practice discernment & trust your intuition.
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I have the secret teaching of all ages but have not finished it yet. Any suggestions?
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Why don't you go out and EXPERIENCE things directly. If you want to learn this stuff, get your head out of the books and go to nature.
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If you play with this interest it will eventually destroy you . Always does , telling you the truth OP .
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How can researching a subject destroy you!?
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Showing interest in a subject of a low vibrational nature does invite lower frequency energies in, however, I feel that the subject of the occult is not low level by nature...you just need to practice discernment & trust your intuition.
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It is possible to be destroyed, not by researching, but by actively experimenting with the material. Although, it is akin to a child in a car. All they could possibly do is release the hand brake and cause the car to roll, possibly creating minor destruction. It takes a certain amount of skill to actually drive the car. At that point, much more destruction is possible.

However, if one does practice discernment and trust their intuition, then the possibility of destruction is lessened. Unless of course that person is seeking to hurt, destroy, or control others. Then they will unleash the law of cause and effect upon themselves. It is not for punishment, but to teach. Sometimes it takes very harsh lessons to teach those who are still maturing.

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I can't help but feel that when most people read the word 'occult' they fixate on the word 'cult' and thereby automatically assume a negative connotation...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
The occult (from the Latin word occultus "clandestine, hidden, secret") is "knowledge of the hidden".[1] In common English usage, occult refers to "knowledge of the paranormal", as opposed to "knowledge of the measurable",[2][3] usually referred to as science. The term is sometimes taken to mean knowledge that "is meant only for certain people" or that "must be kept hidden", but for most practicing occultists it is simply the study of a deeper spiritual reality that extends beyond pure reason and the physical sciences.[4] The terms esoteric and arcane have very similar meanings, and the three terms are interchangeable.[5][6]

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I have the secret teaching of all ages but have not finished it yet. Any suggestions?
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The bible is the best occult book there is. stuffed with hidden (occult) meaning.

this guy is pretty good at explaining some of it:

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If you play with this interest it will eventually destroy you . Always does , telling you the truth OP .
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How can researching a subject destroy you!?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14980757


Showing interest in a subject of a low vibrational nature does invite lower frequency energies in, however, I feel that the subject of the occult is not low level by nature...you just need to practice discernment & trust your intuition.
 Quoting: Just In Time To Help


It is possible to be destroyed, not by researching, but by actively experimenting with the material. Although, it is akin to a child in a car. All they could possibly do is release the hand brake and cause the car to roll, possibly creating minor destruction. It takes a certain amount of skill to actually drive the car. At that point, much more destruction is possible.

However, if one does practice discernment and trust their intuition, then the possibility of destruction is lessened. Unless of course that person is seeking to hurt, destroy, or control others. Then they will unleash the law of cause and effect upon themselves. It is not for punishment, but to teach. Sometimes it takes very harsh lessons to teach those who are still maturing.
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You are a wise soul, I appreciate your insight. As far as one's intentions, I feel if you're 'seeking to hurt, destroy, or control others', then you're already on a lower plane, if you catch my drift.
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I can't help but feel that when most people read the word 'occult' they fixate on the word 'cult' and thereby automatically assume a negative connotation...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
The occult (from the Latin word occultus "clandestine, hidden, secret") is "knowledge of the hidden".[1] In common English usage, occult refers to "knowledge of the paranormal", as opposed to "knowledge of the measurable",[2][3] usually referred to as science. The term is sometimes taken to mean knowledge that "is meant only for certain people" or that "must be kept hidden", but for most practicing occultists it is simply the study of a deeper spiritual reality that extends beyond pure reason and the physical sciences.[4] The terms esoteric and arcane have very similar meanings, and the three terms are interchangeable.[5][6]

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That's because most people don't use critical thinking. There is no point in trying to explain how things really are to most people, because they already have their mind made up. I suppose that is the reason for knowledge that "is meant only for certain people" or that "must be kept hidden"

By the way, I thought you were an athiest? Perhaps I am wrong, but I seem to remember reading a post or two of yours that suggested that.

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How can researching a subject destroy you!?
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Showing interest in a subject of a low vibrational nature does invite lower frequency energies in, however, I feel that the subject of the occult is not low level by nature...you just need to practice discernment & trust your intuition.
 Quoting: Just In Time To Help


It is possible to be destroyed, not by researching, but by actively experimenting with the material. Although, it is akin to a child in a car. All they could possibly do is release the hand brake and cause the car to roll, possibly creating minor destruction. It takes a certain amount of skill to actually drive the car. At that point, much more destruction is possible.

However, if one does practice discernment and trust their intuition, then the possibility of destruction is lessened. Unless of course that person is seeking to hurt, destroy, or control others. Then they will unleash the law of cause and effect upon themselves. It is not for punishment, but to teach. Sometimes it takes very harsh lessons to teach those who are still maturing.
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You are a wise soul, I appreciate your insight. As far as one's intentions, I feel if you're 'seeking to hurt, destroy, or control others', then you're already on a lower plane, if you catch my drift.
 Quoting: Just In Time To Help


They are on a lower plane, indeed. But that can still be on a higher plane than most, if occult knowledge is utilized.
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Occult just means secret, hidden as a verb, and mystical or supernatural as a noun.

All connotations of it being associated with evil are layered on by ignorant people.

Sheesh.
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So therefore, occult books usually deal with 'hidden' truths.

If you're looking for a book about evil, that is not the keyword to use to look it up.
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I can't help but feel that when most people read the word 'occult' they fixate on the word 'cult' and thereby automatically assume a negative connotation...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
The occult (from the Latin word occultus "clandestine, hidden, secret") is "knowledge of the hidden".[1] In common English usage, occult refers to "knowledge of the paranormal", as opposed to "knowledge of the measurable",[2][3] usually referred to as science. The term is sometimes taken to mean knowledge that "is meant only for certain people" or that "must be kept hidden", but for most practicing occultists it is simply the study of a deeper spiritual reality that extends beyond pure reason and the physical sciences.[4] The terms esoteric and arcane have very similar meanings, and the three terms are interchangeable.[5][6]

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Sorry - didn't see your response before I posted mine Anhedonic!!
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Occult just means secret, hidden as a verb, and mystical or supernatural as a noun.

All connotations of it being associated with evil are layered on by ignorant people.

Sheesh.
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Please to read the thread before posting.
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I can't help but feel that when most people read the word 'occult' they fixate on the word 'cult' and thereby automatically assume a negative connotation...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
The occult (from the Latin word occultus "clandestine, hidden, secret") is "knowledge of the hidden".[1] In common English usage, occult refers to "knowledge of the paranormal", as opposed to "knowledge of the measurable",[2][3] usually referred to as science. The term is sometimes taken to mean knowledge that "is meant only for certain people" or that "must be kept hidden", but for most practicing occultists it is simply the study of a deeper spiritual reality that extends beyond pure reason and the physical sciences.[4] The terms esoteric and arcane have very similar meanings, and the three terms are interchangeable.[5][6]

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Sorry - didn't see your response before I posted mine Anhedonic!!
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It's also on the first page, I guess nobody bothered to read it, lol.

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Just any of the Harry Potter books. ohyeah
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this would be a good start...

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I can't help but feel that when most people read the word 'occult' they fixate on the word 'cult' and thereby automatically assume a negative connotation...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
The occult (from the Latin word occultus "clandestine, hidden, secret") is "knowledge of the hidden".[1] In common English usage, occult refers to "knowledge of the paranormal", as opposed to "knowledge of the measurable",[2][3] usually referred to as science. The term is sometimes taken to mean knowledge that "is meant only for certain people" or that "must be kept hidden", but for most practicing occultists it is simply the study of a deeper spiritual reality that extends beyond pure reason and the physical sciences.[4] The terms esoteric and arcane have very similar meanings, and the three terms are interchangeable.[5][6]

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That's because most people don't use critical thinking. There is no point in trying to explain how things really are to most people, because they already have their mind made up. I suppose that is the reason for knowledge that "is meant only for certain people" or that "must be kept hidden"

By the way, I thought you were an athiest? Perhaps I am wrong, but I seem to remember reading a post or two of yours that suggested that.

peace
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Not certain which posts you are referring to but I do not identify with 'atheism'. I just do not subscribe to the commonly accepted conceptualizations of the term 'God' - as an externalized, personified deity/entity with human-like traits/characteristics that exists somewhere else and separate from all of creation.

My thoughts/feelings/beliefs would probably align more closely with some ideas found in deism, pantheism, pandeism, etc - although I do not identify exclusively with those schools of thought or claim those labels/titles. I am very spiritually-minded and prefer to explore/consider various schools of thought and I will choose to relate to that which resonates or speaks to my heart. I guess with some people (not suggesting you here) if you do not accept their version or conceptualization of the term 'God' - then they are likely to perceive of you or label you as an atheist. In fact I've run into that quite a bit on here.

I do not read texts about the 'occult' that individuals often refeernce, but I just wanted to comment above about about the psychological reaction to the term as it relates to many individuals' perception of it. My interests are studying the nature of consciousness & the human mind, emotions, transpersonal psychology, and exploring ideas about the nature of this 'reality' (quantum theory, holographic universe theory, etc).

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I can't help but feel that when most people read the word 'occult' they fixate on the word 'cult' and thereby automatically assume a negative connotation...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
The occult (from the Latin word occultus "clandestine, hidden, secret") is "knowledge of the hidden".[1] In common English usage, occult refers to "knowledge of the paranormal", as opposed to "knowledge of the measurable",[2][3] usually referred to as science. The term is sometimes taken to mean knowledge that "is meant only for certain people" or that "must be kept hidden", but for most practicing occultists it is simply the study of a deeper spiritual reality that extends beyond pure reason and the physical sciences.[4] The terms esoteric and arcane have very similar meanings, and the three terms are interchangeable.[5][6]

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That's because most people don't use critical thinking. There is no point in trying to explain how things really are to most people, because they already have their mind made up. I suppose that is the reason for knowledge that "is meant only for certain people" or that "must be kept hidden"

By the way, I thought you were an athiest? Perhaps I am wrong, but I seem to remember reading a post or two of yours that suggested that.

peace
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Not certain which posts you are referring to but I do not identify with 'atheism'. I just do not subscribe to the commonly accepted conceptualizations of the term 'God' - as an externalized, personified deity/entity with human-like traits/characteristics that exists somewhere else and separate from all of creation.

My thoughts/feelings/beliefs would probably align more closely with some ideas found in deism, pantheism, pandeism, etc - although I do not identify exclusively with those schools of thought or claim those labels/titles. I am very spiritually-minded and prefer to explore/consider various schools of thought and I will choose to relate to that which resonates or speaks to my heart. I guess with some people (not suggesting you here) if you do not accept their version or conceptualization of the term 'God' - then they are likely to perceive of you or label you as an atheist. In fact I've run into that quite a bit on here.

I do not read texts about the 'occult' that individuals often refeernce, but I just wanted to comment above about about the psychological reaction to the term as it relates to many individuals' perception of it. My interests are studying the nature of consciousness & the human mind, emotions, transpersonal psychology, and exploring ideas about the nature of this 'reality' (quantum theory, holographic universe theory, etc).

peace
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Fair enough. By 'athiest' I was just referring to one who does not believe in intelligent design, but rather that our universe is the result of some random 'accident'. I do not 'believe' in G-d, because I have experienced 'He/She/Them' so my experience transcends any belief. If others do not subscribe to that, it is of no bother to me, people can believe anything they want to believe.

I did assume that you were somewhat versed in occult texts by your above post, but now I see that you are well versed in critical thinking and common sense. I see also that your interests coincide with my own, and I apologize for delving into a discussion of 'labels'.
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Fair enough. By 'athiest' I was just referring to one who does not believe in intelligent design, but rather that our universe is the result of some random 'accident'. I do not 'believe' in G-d, because I have experienced 'He/She/Them' so my experience transcends any belief. If others do not subscribe to that, it is of no bother to me, people can believe anything they want to believe.

I did assume that you were somewhat versed in occult texts by your above post, but now I see that you are well versed in critical thinking and common sense. I see also that your interests coincide with my own, and I apologize for delving into a discussion of 'labels'.
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No offense taken and I appreciate your inquiry/question for me. I believe in observing and appreciating the wonders, beauty, and design of the Universe and the laws by which it operates. However I don't subscribe to the more simple-minded 'creationist theories' that portray a personified 'deity' magically making planets & humans out of dust - the conceptualizations that make no serious attempt to explain how something could transpire or come to be, but just claim that it did and disregard any in-depth analysis.

I would imagine that the creation of the Universe and the origins of intelligent 'life/beings' would be so complex that it would actually transcend our ability to conceive of it from the filter or veil of human (physical-based) perception. However I believe once the soul or spirit-stream permanetly separates from the physical body - then this knowledge & awareness will be made available to us and become clear. It's also possible that the 'physical Universe' we perceive is indeed holographic in nature and more along the lines of an advanced simulation and that rest of or the other dimensions of 'existence' are drastically different from this dense, 3-dimensional 'reality' that we perceive. So using our physical senses as the basis of our speculating/theorizing might indeed be misleading.

I would agree with you that I critical thinking, common sense, and open-mindedness would characterize my approach to thinking. And yes, personal experience does trump all limitations created by human language and archetypes/paradigms.

Glad to hear we share similar interests.

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guessing the bible says stay away from occult practices because these things are a distraction from what you really want anyway...

I have found many examples of people who get involved in occult groups and find their way out only through Christ... He alone trumps the supernatural here...

men like John Dee and King Solomon have all fallen from dealing w them...

some good testimonies
Mark Cleminson, Earthquake kelly, Carolyn Hamlett--all pretty heavily into occult practices... MArk claims to have studies in secret schools in Tibet and India.
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I can't help but feel that when most people read the word 'occult' they fixate on the word 'cult' and thereby automatically assume a negative connotation...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
The occult (from the Latin word occultus "clandestine, hidden, secret") is "knowledge of the hidden".[1] In common English usage, occult refers to "knowledge of the paranormal", as opposed to "knowledge of the measurable",[2][3] usually referred to as science. The term is sometimes taken to mean knowledge that "is meant only for certain people" or that "must be kept hidden", but for most practicing occultists it is simply the study of a deeper spiritual reality that extends beyond pure reason and the physical sciences.[4] The terms esoteric and arcane have very similar meanings, and the three terms are interchangeable.[5][6]

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That's because most people don't use critical thinking. There is no point in trying to explain how things really are to most people, because they already have their mind made up. I suppose that is the reason for knowledge that "is meant only for certain people" or that "must be kept hidden"

By the way, I thought you were an athiest? Perhaps I am wrong, but I seem to remember reading a post or two of yours that suggested that.

peace
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Not certain which posts you are referring to but I do not identify with 'atheism'. I just do not subscribe to the commonly accepted conceptualizations of the term 'God' - as an externalized, personified deity/entity with human-like traits/characteristics that exists somewhere else and separate from all of creation.

My thoughts/feelings/beliefs would probably align more closely with some ideas found in deism, pantheism, pandeism, etc - although I do not identify exclusively with those schools of thought or claim those labels/titles. I am very spiritually-minded and prefer to explore/consider various schools of thought and I will choose to relate to that which resonates or speaks to my heart. I guess with some people (not suggesting you here) if you do not accept their version or conceptualization of the term 'God' - then they are likely to perceive of you or label you as an atheist. In fact I've run into that quite a bit on here.

I do not read texts about the 'occult' that individuals often refeernce, but I just wanted to comment above about about the psychological reaction to the term as it relates to many individuals' perception of it. My interests are studying the nature of consciousness & the human mind, emotions, transpersonal psychology, and exploring ideas about the nature of this 'reality' (quantum theory, holographic universe theory, etc).

peace
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Fair enough. By 'athiest' I was just referring to one who does not believe in intelligent design, but rather that our universe is the result of some random 'accident'. I do not 'believe' in G-d, because I have experienced 'He/She/Them' so my experience transcends any belief. If others do not subscribe to that, it is of no bother to me, people can believe anything they want to believe.

I did assume that you were somewhat versed in occult texts by your above post, but now I see that you are well versed in critical thinking and common sense. I see also that your interests coincide with my own, and I apologize for delving into a discussion of 'labels'.
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please don't take offence but i detect a somewhat haughty tone of your posts.

do you believe yourself to be some kind of ascended master by any chance?

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