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Sandy Hook resident Robert Hoagland missing; possibly connected to case

 
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The subjects wandering a bit but at least the thread is still active. That's good. I hope he's found soon. Why aren't any comments coming in from Newtown. Being a real estate appraiser you'd think a lot of people there would know Robert and be concerned about his disappearance. Seems like Newtown doesn't care about their own citizens. I might be wrong but that's the way it looks. Anyone else get that impression?
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The first Newtowner to comment on Robert's disappearance actually left a very crass statement ("I bet he's dying to be found.") That goes beyond not caring, even. So bizarre.
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The subjects wandering a bit but at least the thread is still active. That's good. I hope he's found soon. Why aren't any comments coming in from Newtown. Being a real estate appraiser you'd think a lot of people there would know Robert and be concerned about his disappearance. Seems like Newtown doesn't care about their own citizens. I might be wrong but that's the way it looks. Anyone else get that impression?
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The first Newtowner to comment on Robert's disappearance actually left a very crass statement ("I bet he's dying to be found.") That goes beyond not caring, even. So bizarre.
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The next one left another crass comment about people on this site. I am talking about the "Now I stumbled onto this website" comment. Maybe someone doesn't want us to find Robert Hoagland?
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From that one comment about "dying to be found," or along those lines, I think he's OK, and that person knows it. Maybe he's gone into hiding.
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Are any of you nuts from Newtown? I am and most of what's posted here is factually inaccurate. So much misinformation, I don't even know where to start. First of all, the gas station is not near the school. It's about a mile away, over the freeway. Hoagland doesn't live along the State Park which isn't really even a state park. Rocky Glen is a steep cliff along the Pootatuck River, not for ATVs or walking and Hoagland lives on the other side of the road. The Park is not accessible from the school. Deb Pisani is not a 'mystery', I've seen her at least 10 times over the last few months. I could go on and on..... You people should just ask me what's you want to know and I will tell you what's going on from the center of the mess. I live 2 miles from the school and have been here 18 years.
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HAVE THE POLICE GIVEN UP ON LOOKING FOR ROBERT HOAGLAND??


ANSWER ME THAT!!!!
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Brand New issue underway.....
Some sort of Home Invasion/Assault very close to the HS today. Details still sketchy. 6-7 State Police cars at location.
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Brand New issue underway.....
Some sort of Home Invasion/Assault very close to the HS today. Details still sketchy. 6-7 State Police cars at location.
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WTF's GOING ON?????????????????
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Are any of you nuts from Newtown? I am and most of what's posted here is factually inaccurate. So much misinformation, I don't even know where to start. First of all, the gas station is not near the school. It's about a mile away, over the freeway. Hoagland doesn't live along the State Park which isn't really even a state park. Rocky Glen is a steep cliff along the Pootatuck River, not for ATVs or walking and Hoagland lives on the other side of the road. The Park is not accessible from the school. Deb Pisani is not a 'mystery', I've seen her at least 10 times over the last few months. I could go on and on..... You people should just ask me what's you want to know and I will tell you what's going on from the center of the mess. I live 2 miles from the school and have been here 18 years.
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Thanks for the corrections. I'm not sure why you called anyone "nuts"; people are just wondering what happened to him and asking questions, that's all. What information has been in the local news/newspapers over there regarding Robert? What are the updates you have seen?

What is the population of Newtown anyway? It seems every time someone comes here from there, they know everyone.

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Are any of you nuts from Newtown? I am and most of what's posted here is factually inaccurate. So much misinformation, I don't even know where to start. First of all, the gas station is not near the school. It's about a mile away, over the freeway. Hoagland doesn't live along the State Park which isn't really even a state park. Rocky Glen is a steep cliff along the Pootatuck River, not for ATVs or walking and Hoagland lives on the other side of the road. The Park is not accessible from the school. Deb Pisani is not a 'mystery', I've seen her at least 10 times over the last few months. I could go on and on..... You people should just ask me what's you want to know and I will tell you what's going on from the center of the mess. I live 2 miles from the school and have been here 18 years.
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Thanks for the corrections. I'm not sure why you called anyone "nuts"; people are just wondering what happened to him and asking questions, that's all. What information has been in the local news/newspapers over there regarding Robert? What are the updates you have seen?

What is the population of Newtown anyway? It seems every time someone comes here from there, they know everyone.
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Population of Newtown 27,000
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Are any of you nuts from Newtown? I am and most of what's posted here is factually inaccurate. So much misinformation, I don't even know where to start. First of all, the gas station is not near the school. It's about a mile away, over the freeway. Hoagland doesn't live along the State Park which isn't really even a state park. Rocky Glen is a steep cliff along the Pootatuck River, not for ATVs or walking and Hoagland lives on the other side of the road. The Park is not accessible from the school. Deb Pisani is not a 'mystery', I've seen her at least 10 times over the last few months. I could go on and on..... You people should just ask me what's you want to know and I will tell you what's going on from the center of the mess. I live 2 miles from the school and have been here 18 years.
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Listen Fella. You can't talk to anyone or your breaking your gag order.
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Are any of you nuts from Newtown? I am and most of what's posted here is factually inaccurate. So much misinformation, I don't even know where to start. First of all, the gas station is not near the school. It's about a mile away, over the freeway. Hoagland doesn't live along the State Park which isn't really even a state park. Rocky Glen is a steep cliff along the Pootatuck River, not for ATVs or walking and Hoagland lives on the other side of the road. The Park is not accessible from the school. Deb Pisani is not a 'mystery', I've seen her at least 10 times over the last few months. I could go on and on..... You people should just ask me what's you want to know and I will tell you what's going on from the center of the mess. I live 2 miles from the school and have been here 18 years.
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Firstly, I appreciate your observations on this issue, and thank you for finding us. As far as I know, we "nuts" are the only member of the public even discussing the poor man's well being. I hope I'm wrong on that. As someone with a missing family member myself, I have always been haunted by the phenomenon. I think I speak for all or most hear in saying that we hope he is found safe and soon.

Deb Pisani's name was kept from the public - hence the "mystery teacher" comment. It wouldn't have stood out as an issue so starkly, had it not been for the intense spotlight given to her injured colleague, Natalie Hammond. When Justin signed the letter to Malloy, "son of injured teacher," it generated questions mainly because the name Craparo/Pisani had not been listed before in any context with the Sandy Hook students, staff or families. In a story plagued with problems from the start (I'm referring to journalistic error), people are being extra careful now to try and get things right, and I think that's a good thing.

In the interests of accuracy, it's not really possible to say the park is not accessible from the school--or, as the old military joke goes, there's no such thing as "you can't get there from here." But I'm sure your point is that the properties don't border each other.

However...there's a straight shot through the woods behind the school--the woods where police canine units led officers, in fact--through some more woods and then right through the Sordi's front (or back yard) to the little bridge that enters the park. That distance is .23 miles, and you'd be under cover most of the way. Time on an ATV would be very short.

I'm not wedded to the ATV theory, but it's certainly not one that can be immediately dismissed as illogical or difficult. With all due respect to your local knowledge, I'm curious why you'd say the park is not walkable--there are trail guides for walking this park:

[link to maps.hikect.com]

While the official park doesn't reach to Mr. Hoagland's house, the woods continue well beyond the park borders, and all the way to (and beyond) the Hoagland residence.

Hoagland's name came into this part of the discussion by virtue of his home's proximity to both the school and the park, and the fact that his friend is the only person known to date to have publicly mentioned the ATV theory. I don't think anyone here has suggested Hoagland is involved in the shooting, but his house is certainly within sight and earshot of an ATV ripping through the woods that day.

The CT State Police (or more accurately, their senior administration) are proving absolutely committed to the single shooter theory. When someone who might have first-hand eyewitness testimony of additional suspects disappears, it raises questions. It doesn't help that Sallie Des Biens immediately commented, "I bet he's dying to be found."
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Too bad . He's gone. Just like all Newtown Posters. Hit and run artists
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Listening to Newtown PD audio from 9 a.m. and the first thing I hear is, "Activity at Crestwood is for the new school."
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I'm curious why news outlets are reporting the suspect vehicle as a black sedan; police transmitted that suspect vehicle was a silver SUV.
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I'm curious why news outlets are reporting the suspect vehicle as a black sedan; police transmitted that suspect vehicle was a silver SUV.
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Is Hoagland a suspect now? What did he do?
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WAS THE SEARCH FOR ROBERT HOAGLAND CALLED OFF ???????
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WAS THE SEARCH FOR ROBERT HOAGLAND CALLED OFF ???????
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The police should know whether Hoagland is dead or not. They simply check his bank account and see if there's any activity. If not it doesn't look good. Most people these days can't just live on cash alone thought a few still try.. They could also check phone records an hospital records.
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WAS THE SEARCH FOR ROBERT HOAGLAND CALLED OFF ???????
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The police should know whether Hoagland is dead or not. They simply check his bank account and see if there's any activity. If not it doesn't look good. Most people these days can't just live on cash alone thought a few still try.. They could also check phone records an hospital records.
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If he was on any medication then his doctor medical records might give a clue. Prescription drugs have to be renewed. Just a thought.
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I find it strange for a real estate agent appraiser there's no pictures of him on the internet. Just the ones issued along with the missing persons report.
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I find it strange for a real estate agent appraiser there's no pictures of him on the internet. Just the ones issued along with the missing persons report.
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That is odd. Did he advertise on television or online, in the newspaper...I wonder.

Thanks for the population info.

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I find it strange for a real estate agent appraiser there's no pictures of him on the internet. Just the ones issued along with the missing persons report.
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That is odd. Did he advertise on television or online, in the newspaper...I wonder.

Thanks for the population info.
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no problem. I remembered it from my thread

"Newtown residents where are you?"
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As for advertising I don't think he did any. I saw some info on the "manta" website and corporate wiki but thats all.

That's not much
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OK it looks like this is what Plasman was talking about. From the description I'd say he sounds a lot like Hoagland but could be some other guy too. White t-shirt shorts. Wasnt' that the description they gave in Hoaglands missing report?

Here is the news item

August 14, 2013

NEWTOWN — State and local police are investigating a home invasion with attempted sexual assault at a Berkshire Road home Tuesday morning. The alleged assault happened at about 8:50 a.m. Tuesday. Police are seeking a car last seen driving on Berkshire Road, also known as Route 34, toward Oxford and Monroe in a silver SUV with Connecticut registration, police said. Police described the driver as male, 6-feet tall with very short hair, wearing a white T-shirt, shorts and glasses.

Anyone with information is asked to call Newtown police at 203-426-5841.

[link to www.courant.com]
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Berkshire road seems to be a hot spot lately. hmmm
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OMG this is ridiculous.

The newtown-patch says it's a dark colored vehicle. They are so mixed up. Read....

"Newtown Police say a dark-colored sedan may have been speeding away from a reported home invasion at around 8:53 a.m."



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You people should just ask me what's you want to know and I will tell you what's going on from the center of the mess. I live 2 miles from the school and have been here 18 years.
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what do you think happened at sandy hook?
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Maybe unrelated but eres more info on the newtown home invasion

A neighbor reported that she heard a loud noise Tuesday morning and since then police have been on scene. Police have been removing evidence from the home all day. State police major crimes unit is also on scene at the home.

The home is owned by William D. and Kathleen Kuban and police have it taped off.



[link to www.wtnh.com]

[link to newtownbee.com]
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What evidence have they been removing all day?
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State police major crimes unit is also on scene. This sounds like a major bust of some kind.
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If it's Newtown then it's...

Who ya gonna' call?

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