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Animals have no souls? Of course they do!

 
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The divide is lessening between animals and humans.
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hfHumans are animals. The only difference is our frontal lobe of our brain.....and there is a reason for that.
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The difference is in the HUMAN SOUL, that is different from the "Inteligent Principle" that animates non human.But don't underestimate animals ability to have feelings and emotions!They are upgrading each life they live,they evolve their soul too and they are here to teach us A LOT about feeling love and don't ignore the poor and fragile.

ANIMALS HAVE SOULS.The hability of thinking and express feelings like happiness,angriness or joy,for example,is one proof of soul.
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Just take a look at this video and prepare to see how can a little beautiful puppy teach such a valuable lesson to humans!
Conclusion? They are here to make us better people!!!!!
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Just take a look at this video and prepare to see how can a little beautiful puppy teach such a valuable lesson to humans!
Conclusion? They are here to make us better people!!!!!
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of course animals have souls.

but as far as i learnt, unlike human soul quite a few animal share one soul, the reason is that it will takes more energy like one soul to support the EGO.
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This is five minutes to heartbreak.

If you’re considering dumping a pet at animal control, please look at this picture. Take a good, long look and let it burn into your mind. This is five minutes to heartbreak…from happy loving dog to devastation.

On the left is Cindy the Doberman when she entered animal control recently. She started the day with the family she thought adored her. During that day, she thought she was going on a fun family outing. As she was wagging her tail and smiling her doggy smile, she ended up being left behind to an uncertain fate at animal control.

On the right is Cindy, shaking horribly, whimpering and afraid…a total psychological mess. This is five minutes to heartbreak. This is a spirit broken and a heart destroyed in the five minutes it took to leave her behind.

[link to www.chicagonow.com]

For those out there who believe animals are put here merely for human pleasure (and abuse)..........and don't believe animals have ANY self-awareness, much less, a SOUL

Look at the dog before and after.......I pray it BURNS into your own soul......if you have one.
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I saw your thread a minute ago and couldn't respond before it went away...but I was about to say, let me grab my sledgehammer...that's probably not the response you wanted from me, but there you have it.
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Cunt.
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People who have never owned or loved an animal should really keep their opinions to themselves since they have no experience or real knowledge of them.
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5* and pin request.


I had a dobermann, he died 2 years ago.The picture on the link opened the wounds on my hearth.


Never wanted another dog, until now.I wish I could take her...Thank God someone did.


But that is ONE out of millions...

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This is five minutes to heartbreak.

If you’re considering dumping a pet at animal control, please look at this picture. Take a good, long look and let it burn into your mind. This is five minutes to heartbreak…from happy loving dog to devastation.

On the left is Cindy the Doberman when she entered animal control recently. She started the day with the family she thought adored her. During that day, she thought she was going on a fun family outing. As she was wagging her tail and smiling her doggy smile, she ended up being left behind to an uncertain fate at animal control.

On the right is Cindy, shaking horribly, whimpering and afraid…a total psychological mess. This is five minutes to heartbreak. This is a spirit broken and a heart destroyed in the five minutes it took to leave her behind.

[link to www.chicagonow.com]

For those out there who believe animals are put here merely for human pleasure (and abuse)..........and don't believe animals have ANY self-awareness, much less, a SOUL

Look at the dog before and after.......I pray it BURNS into your own soul......if you have one.
 Quoting: Shamar


I saw your thread a minute ago and couldn't respond before it went away...but I was about to say, let me grab my sledgehammer...that's probably not the response you wanted from me, but there you have it.
 Quoting: BRIEF


my.........funny how fast you appeared. Hmmm. So a sledgehammer is the best answer you have to answer?
 Quoting: Shamar


Well, it would end their misery quickly, and I don't want them to suffer needlessly, but if you prefer gassing them or shooting them instead, I suppose that would be humane as well.
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Somebody outta take a sledgehammer to you, jackass.
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At this juncture of "humanity" I'll take the loyal loving animal creatures (my dog) anytime over reprobate mankind. Man will continue to devolve until very few are left on this rock.
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heck I am beginning to think even my pet iguana has a soul lumpy is coming around he was a maniac when we got him with a lot of love and TLC he is now able to scurry around the house and just be himself. he still has anger issues but were confident he will overcome them.
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Idiots should be "spayed and neutered" not the wonderful animals on this earth.
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animals have souls (and a sense of humor)
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lmao
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Idiots should be "spayed and neutered" not the wonderful animals on this earth.
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Offer 5,000 dollars to any male over 25 to have a vasectomy. Those that never loved kids or who are addicted to drugs will jump at the chance, it will lesson kids born in poverty where the dads take off. Its a genius idea and should be offered.
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Idiots should be "spayed and neutered" not the wonderful animals on this earth.
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Offer 5,000 dollars to any male over 25 to have a vasectomy. Those that never loved kids or who are addicted to drugs will jump at the chance, it will lesson kids born in poverty where the dads take off. Its a genius idea and should be offered.
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clappa
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Just take a look at this video and prepare to see how can a little beautiful puppy teach such a valuable lesson to humans!
Conclusion? They are here to make us better people!!!!!
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I saw this video the other day.......beautiful, isn't it! And yes, it teaches humanity a LOT.
Love is like light. It is never constrained to its source; it shines on everything and tends to spread spontaneously, unless we block it! ~ Cosmic Swami

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OP, what do you think about meat eating?

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OP, what do you think about meat eating?

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I believe it is wrong on all levels. Scripturally, morally, spiritually, and physically.

I do not eat animals.hf
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OP, what do you think about meat eating?

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I believe it is wrong on all levels. Scripturally, morally, spiritually, and physically.

I do not eat animals.hf
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forgot to log in :)
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OP, what do you think about meat eating?

BUMPIN' BUMPIN'

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“Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet.” (Albert Einstein)
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This is five minutes heartbreak.

If you’re considering dumping a pet at animal control, please look at this picture. Take a good, long look and let it burn into your mind. This is five minutes to heartbreak…from happy loving dog to devastation.

On the left is Cindy the Doberman when she entered animal control recently. She started the day with the family she thought adored her. During that day, she thought she was going on a fun family outing. As she was wagging her tail and smiling her doggy smile, she ended up being left behind to an uncertain fate at animal control.

On the right is Cindy, shaking horribly, whimpering and afraid…a total psychological mess. This is five minutes to heartbreak. This is a spirit broken and a heart destroyed in the five minutes it took to leave her behind.

[link to www.chicagonow.com]

For those out there who believe animals are put here merely for human pleasure (and abuse)..........and don't believe animals have ANY self-awareness, much less, a SOUL

Look at the dog before and after.......I pray it BURNS into your own soul......if you have one.
 Quoting: Shamar


I saw your a minute ago and couldn't respond before it went away...but I was about to say, let me grab my sledgehammer...that's probably not the response you wanted from me, but there you have it.
 Quoting: BRIEF


you contradict the statement under your username
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No I don't, a soul makes decisions based on morality, and animals kill without consideration...in fact it's a cats job to kill mice, they are hit men...no room for morality there...
I never forgive and I never forget

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I saw your thread a minute ago and couldn't respond before it went away...but I was about say, let me grab my sledgehammer...that's probably not the response you wanted from me, but there you have it.
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You are an ignorant, lowlife, vile cretin with no soul.

I would run past the likes of you at the fastest speed possible save any animal.
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His sledgehammer will become his own curse one day, he will see.
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Your worship of animals and nature does not please God, and that will be yours...Satan however smiles at your worship of those things...
I never forgive and I never forget

I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked.

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This is five minutes heartbreak.

If you’re considering dumping a pet at animal control, please look at this picture. Take a good, long look and let it burn into your mind. This is five minutes to heartbreak…from happy loving dog to devastation.

On the left is Cindy the Doberman when she entered animal control recently. She started the day with the family she thought adored her. During that day, she thought she was going on a fun family outing. As she was wagging her tail and smiling her doggy smile, she ended up being left behind to an uncertain fate at animal control.

On the right is Cindy, shaking horribly, whimpering and afraid…a total psychological mess. This is five minutes to heartbreak. This is a spirit broken and a heart destroyed in the five minutes it took to leave her behind.

[link to www.chicagonow.com]

For those out there who believe animals are put here merely for human pleasure (and abuse)..........and don't believe animals have ANY self-awareness, much less, a SOUL

Look at the dog before and after.......I pray it BURNS into your own soul......if you have one.
 Quoting: Shamar


I saw your a minute ago and couldn't respond before it went away...but I was about to say, let me grab my sledgehammer...that's probably not the response you wanted from me, but there you have it.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Cunt.
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Dick
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I saw your a minute ago and couldn't respond before it went away...but I was about to say, let me grab my sledgehammer...that's probably not the response you wanted from me, but there you have it.
 Quoting: BRIEF


my.........funny how fast you appeared. Hmmm. So a sledgehammer is the best answer you have to answer?
 Quoting: Shamar


Well, it would end their misery quickly, and I don't want them to suffer needlessly, but if you prefer gassing them or shooting them instead, I suppose that would be humane as well.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Somebody outta take a sledgehammer to you, jackass.
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:engraved pistol:
I never forgive and I never forget

I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked.

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Animals do have souls, but there are different levels of soul involved here. Lower animals share a single collective soul, while higher animals are partly individuated. But they are still partly connected to the collective soul of the species too.

Humans are on the other hand fully individuated.

And THAT is why animals are telepathic, while humans are not - we are at the stage of soul evolution when the connection with all around us is temporarily severed, so that we can perfect our individuation.

It's a hard phase to go through, but we'll regain our telepathy once we've developed fully as individuals.

Some people think animals are better than humans because they are telepathic, but they have just not yet reached the level of soul development where they are ready to incarnate as a human and attempt a life in total isolation.

Also remember that our 'soul' passes from life to life, growing and evolving. But it is not strictly eternal - anything that can grow can also diminish. A soul can be damaged, possibly beyond repair. It was created at one point in time, and therefore it can also be destroyed.

The only part of us that is eternal, is our inner essence, known as 'spirit'. This is who we truly are, the soul is merely a vessel where we gather our life experiences, first as animals, then as humans, and then ... well, we'll find out!
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I saw your thread a minute ago and couldn't respond before it went away...but I was about say, let me grab my sledgehammer...that's probably not the response you wanted from me, but there you have it.
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You are an ignorant, lowlife, vile cretin with no soul.

I would run past the likes of you at the fastest speed possible save any animal.
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His sledgehammer will become his own curse one day, he will see.
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Your worship of animals and nature does not please God, and that will be yours...Satan however smiles at your worship of those things...
 Quoting: BRIEF


I forgive you for you know not of what you speak.
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You are an ignorant, lowlife, vile cretin with no soul.

I would run past the likes of you at the fastest speed possible save any animal.
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His sledgehammer will become his own curse one day, he will see.
 Quoting: Shamar


Your worship of animals and nature does not please God, and that will be yours...Satan however smiles at your worship of those things...
 Quoting: BRIEF


I forgive you for you know not of what you speak.
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I know precisely what I speak of, you have been tricked and brainwashed into worshiping nature instead of God...Satan is quite convincing and very deceptive...
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21Thus said AHYH of hosts, the Elohim of Yisra’el, “Add your burnt offerings to your slaughterings and eat meat. 22“For I did not speak to your fathers, or command them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Mitsrayim, about matters of burnt offerings or slaughterings. 23“But this word I did command them, saying, ‘Obey My voice,g and I shall be your Elohim, and you be My people. And walk in all the ways that I have commanded you, so that it be well with you.’ 24“But they did not obey or incline their ear, but walked in the counsels, in the stubbornness of their evil heart, and went backward and not forward.

Zechariah 11:
4 Thus says the LORD my God, “Pasture the flock doomed to slaughter. 5 Those who buy them slay them and go unpunished, and each of those who sell them says, ‘Blessed be the LORD, for)I have become rich!’ And their own shepherds have no pity on them. 6 For I will no longer have pity on the inhabitants of the land,” declares the LORD; “but behold, I will cause the men to fall, each into another’s power and into the power of his king; and they will strike the land, and I will not deliver them from their power.”
This is saying that God REBUKES and CONDEMNS both the sellers and buyers of people who believe they can slaughter innocent creatures and get away with it. God says that because they have no pity on animals and mercilessly slaughter them that He Himself will no longer pity the cruel inhabitants of the earth and deliver them to destruction.

6“For I delight in kindness and not slaughtering, and in the knowledge of Elohim more than burnt offerings. 7“But like Adam they transgressed the covenant. There they acted treacherously against Me. 8“Gil'ad is a city of workers of wickedness – tracked up with blood. 9“And as bands of robbers lie in wait for a man, so the company of priests murder on the way to Shekem, for they have done wickedness.

Messiah Yahushuwa did not eat animals and taught against it. His brother James, who was the leader after Messiah's ascension, did not eat animals. Messiah's disciples did not eat animals, and the first Hebrew "christians" did not eat animals.

Job 12:10
In his hand is the life of every living thing and the breath of all mankind.

Genesis : 9, 13-17
I have set My rainbow in the clouds, and it will be the sign of the covenant between Me and the earth.
Whenever I bring clouds over the earth and the rainbow appears in the clouds, I will remember my covenant between Me and you and all living creatures of every kind. Never again will the waters become a flood to destroy all life.
So God said to Noah, "This is the sign of the covenant I have established between Me and all life on the earth."

Revelation 5:13
"And EVERY creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and ALL that are in them, hear I saying, "Blessing, and honor, and glory, and power, be unto Him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the lamb forever and ever."

Matthew 10:29
"Are not two sparrows sold for a cent? And yet not one of them will fall to the ground apart from your Father."

Genesis : 9, 13-17
The same fate awaits man and animals alike.

From the wisest man who walked the earth (aside from Messiah) (Ecclesiastes 3:18-21 TEV)
"I decided that God is testing us, to show us that we are no better than animals. After all, the same fate awaits man and animals alike. One dies just like the other. They are the same kind of creature. A human being is no better off than an animal, because life has no meaning for either. They are both going to the same place -- the dust. They both came from it; they will both go back to it. How can anyone be sure that a man's spirit goes upward while an animal's spirit goes down into the ground?"


(Job 12:9-10 KJV)
The Book of Job says: "Who knoweth not in all these that the hand of the Lord hath wrought this? In whose hand is the soul of every living thing, and the breath of all mankind."


(Romans 8:21-22 KJV)
"Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now."

Proverbs 12:10
"A righteous man cares for the needs of his animal."

Revelation 5:8-13
All creatures recognize Jesus as the Savior of the world and praise God right along with redeemed men.

Psalm 145:-9-10,13,15-21 AMP
Though all creatures are subject to man's cruelty, God loves all His creation and has made plans for all His children and the lesser creatures to enjoy His eternal Kingdom.

Romans 8:19 (KJV)
The lesser creatures await Christ's return to redeem the sons of God so they, too, will be released from physical death to eternal life.


Shall I go on?
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21Thus said AHYH of hosts, the Elohim of Yisra’el, “Add your burnt offerings to your slaughterings and eat meat. 22“For I did not speak to your fathers, or command them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Mitsrayim, about matters of burnt offerings or slaughterings. 23“But this word I did command them, saying, ‘Obey My voice,g and I shall be your Elohim, and you be My people. And walk in all the ways that I have commanded you, so that it be well with you.’ 24“But they did not obey or incline their ear, but walked in the counsels, in the stubbornness of their evil heart, and went backward and not forward.

Zechariah 11:
4 Thus says the LORD my God, “Pasture the flock doomed to slaughter. 5 Those who buy them slay them and go unpunished, and each of those who sell them says, ‘Blessed be the LORD, for)I have become rich!’ And their own shepherds have no pity on them. 6 For I will no longer have pity on the inhabitants of the land,” declares the LORD; “but behold, I will cause the men to fall, each into another’s power and into the power of his king; and they will strike the land, and I will not deliver them from their power.”
This is saying that God REBUKES and CONDEMNS both the sellers and buyers of people who believe they can slaughter innocent creatures and get away with it. God says that because they have no pity on animals and mercilessly slaughter them that He Himself will no longer pity the cruel inhabitants of the earth and deliver them to destruction.

6“For I delight in kindness and not slaughtering, and in the knowledge of Elohim more than burnt offerings. 7“But like Adam they transgressed the covenant. There they acted treacherously against Me. 8“Gil'ad is a city of workers of wickedness – tracked up with blood. 9“And as bands of robbers lie in wait for a man, so the company of priests murder on the way to Shekem, for they have done wickedness.

Messiah Yahushuwa did not eat animals and taught against it. His brother James, who was the leader after Messiah's ascension, did not eat animals. Messiah's disciples did not eat animals, and the first Hebrew "christians" did not eat animals.

Job 12:10
In his hand is the life of every living thing and the breath of all mankind.

Genesis : 9, 13-17
I have set My rainbow in the clouds, and it will be the sign of the covenant between Me and the earth.
Whenever I bring clouds over the earth and the rainbow appears in the clouds, I will remember my covenant between Me and you and all living creatures of every kind. Never again will the waters become a flood to destroy all life.
So God said to Noah, "This is the sign of the covenant I have established between Me and all life on the earth."

Revelation 5:13
"And EVERY creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and ALL that are in them, hear I saying, "Blessing, and honor, and glory, and power, be unto Him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the lamb forever and ever."

Matthew 10:29
"Are not two sparrows sold for a cent? And yet not one of them will fall to the ground apart from your Father."

Genesis : 9, 13-17
The same fate awaits man and animals alike.

From the wisest man who walked the earth (aside from Messiah) (Ecclesiastes 3:18-21 TEV)
"I decided that God is testing us, to show us that we are no better than animals. After all, the same fate awaits man and animals alike. One dies just like the other. They are the same kind of creature. A human being is no better off than an animal, because life has no meaning for either. They are both going to the same place -- the dust. They both came from it; they will both go back to it. How can anyone be sure that a man's spirit goes upward while an animal's spirit goes down into the ground?"


(Job 12:9-10 KJV)
The Book of Job says: "Who knoweth not in all these that the hand of the Lord hath wrought this? In whose hand is the soul of every living thing, and the breath of all mankind."


(Romans 8:21-22 KJV)
"Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now."

Proverbs 12:10
"A righteous man cares for the needs of his animal."

Revelation 5:8-13
All creatures recognize Jesus as the Savior of the world and praise God right along with redeemed men.

Psalm 145:-9-10,13,15-21 AMP
Though all creatures are subject to man's cruelty, God loves all His creation and has made plans for all His children and the lesser creatures to enjoy His eternal Kingdom.

Romans 8:19 (KJV)
The lesser creatures await Christ's return to redeem the sons of God so they, too, will be released from physical death to eternal life.


Shall I go on?
 Quoting: Shamar


Nicely done. Perhaps the arrogant will take notice. But what am I thinking? of course they won't.
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Re: Animals have no souls? Of course they do!
I think mainly, people tend to oversimplify the complexity of each individual animals soul.

Animals instincts are very complex, their thinking is much more complex than we understand. we never really get to observe them carefully because they are so intelligent they know how to avoid us most of the time.

When you really get to interact with them, you realize they are really smarter and more aware of things than people are. Their hearing is more accute, their sense of smell is 1000 times more powerful, then you realize, that IS what consciousness is, your actual physical senses. That's what true intelligence is, then they really are more intelligent than people in many ways.

Dogs can sniff out drugs, or find criminals or missing children, but all animals have incredible senses. They are also psychic, they definitely has a high degree of ESP, higher than humans. They depend on it for their survival.

The fact that they do indeed have ESP, i've seen this proven so dramatically many times, shows not only do they have souls, they are more soulful than humans to a great degree.
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21Thus said AHYH of hosts, the Elohim of Yisra’el, “Add your burnt offerings to your slaughterings and eat meat. 22“For I did not speak to your fathers, or command them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Mitsrayim, about matters of burnt offerings or slaughterings. 23“But this word I did command them, saying, ‘Obey My voice,g and I shall be your Elohim, and you be My people. And walk in all the ways that I have commanded you, so that it be well with you.’ 24“But they did not obey or incline their ear, but walked in the counsels, in the stubbornness of their evil heart, and went backward and not forward.

Zechariah 11:
4 Thus says the LORD my God, “Pasture the flock doomed to slaughter. 5 Those who buy them slay them and go unpunished, and each of those who sell them says, ‘Blessed be the LORD, for)I have become rich!’ And their own shepherds have no pity on them. 6 For I will no longer have pity on the inhabitants of the land,” declares the LORD; “but behold, I will cause the men to fall, each into another’s power and into the power of his king; and they will strike the land, and I will not deliver them from their power.”
This is saying that God REBUKES and CONDEMNS both the sellers and buyers of people who believe they can slaughter innocent creatures and get away with it. God says that because they have no pity on animals and mercilessly slaughter them that He Himself will no longer pity the cruel inhabitants of the earth and deliver them to destruction.

6“For I delight in kindness and not slaughtering, and in the knowledge of Elohim more than burnt offerings. 7“But like Adam they transgressed the covenant. There they acted treacherously against Me. 8“Gil'ad is a city of workers of wickedness – tracked up with blood. 9“And as bands of robbers lie in wait for a man, so the company of priests murder on the way to Shekem, for they have done wickedness.

Messiah Yahushuwa did not eat animals and taught against it. His brother James, who was the leader after Messiah's ascension, did not eat animals. Messiah's disciples did not eat animals, and the first Hebrew "christians" did not eat animals.

Job 12:10
In his hand is the life of every living thing and the breath of all mankind.

Genesis : 9, 13-17
I have set My rainbow in the clouds, and it will be the sign of the covenant between Me and the earth.
Whenever I bring clouds over the earth and the rainbow appears in the clouds, I will remember my covenant between Me and you and all living creatures of every kind. Never again will the waters become a flood to destroy all life.
So God said to Noah, "This is the sign of the covenant I have established between Me and all life on the earth."

Revelation 5:13
"And EVERY creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and ALL that are in them, hear I saying, "Blessing, and honor, and glory, and power, be unto Him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the lamb forever and ever."

Matthew 10:29
"Are not two sparrows sold for a cent? And yet not one of them will fall to the ground apart from your Father."

Genesis : 9, 13-17
The same fate awaits man and animals alike.

From the wisest man who walked the earth (aside from Messiah) (Ecclesiastes 3:18-21 TEV)
"I decided that God is testing us, to show us that we are no better than animals. After all, the same fate awaits man and animals alike. One dies just like the other. They are the same kind of creature. A human being is no better off than an animal, because life has no meaning for either. They are both going to the same place -- the dust. They both came from it; they will both go back to it. How can anyone be sure that a man's spirit goes upward while an animal's spirit goes down into the ground?"


(Job 12:9-10 KJV)
The Book of Job says: "Who knoweth not in all these that the hand of the Lord hath wrought this? In whose hand is the soul of every living thing, and the breath of all mankind."


(Romans 8:21-22 KJV)
"Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now."

Proverbs 12:10
"A righteous man cares for the needs of his animal."

Revelation 5:8-13
All creatures recognize Jesus as the Savior of the world and praise God right along with redeemed men.

Psalm 145:-9-10,13,15-21 AMP
Though all creatures are subject to man's cruelty, God loves all His creation and has made plans for all His children and the lesser creatures to enjoy His eternal Kingdom.

Romans 8:19 (KJV)
The lesser creatures await Christ's return to redeem the sons of God so they, too, will be released from physical death to eternal life.


Shall I go on?
 Quoting: Shamar





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