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New law --- California school children may now choose their gender ID and use opposite sex'bathrooms/showers/etc.

 
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I'm not condoning this but all it'll take to end this stupidity is for a group of girls to conspire and claim a male student did or tried something.
Lawsuits to the school district, city, and state will show them how dangerous this is for them.

They don't care about the danger to the students but when they realize the danger to their money things will change.

I just wonder how many settlements will have to be paid out before they change everything back to normal.
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Great point.
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Hm yes, or even some girls going together into the boys' room and doing the same thing.

Boys are naturally the curious sort and thing "this will open the door to the promised land!" We're wired that way. Whereas at that age, girls can be much sneakier and more scheming. Now instead of girls just plotting against each other, boys will have to put up with more of it too.

Actually it removes a lot of protection that boys have. Oh well, so what else is new.
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And then they can take photos on their smart phones to pass around and ruin someone's reputation... the possibilities are endless for the meaner kids
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... on another thougt ....


many of the boys may discover that their standards of measurement are ...

... ahem .... do not meet generally accepted standards.

The above will drive them back to the all boys shower post haste.
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Now you're assuming the guy is gonna get an erection there. Will the girls be disappointed if he doesn't?
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LOL!!

A larger size of small you mean?
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I don't think we guys would have that much to worry about. They come in different sizes, but you girls like pretty much all of them whether you say so or not. Now I am starting to like the idea again ...
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Just wanted to say I don't think the governor has actually signed this bill yet, although at this very moment, it is on his desk.
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11 years ago (August 5th 2002) my wife died ,i felt quite weird all thru' the day before ,headaches ,difficulty in breathing aches and pains , i wonder if it was actually me who died and i am actually living in some kinda hell .............
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hmmmn,me too.i bought a book on psychics who claim many "ghosts" have no idea that they're dead,scary. though how it's connected to this thread beats me!
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The ADVANTAGE of this proposal is that would promote transparency in the dating market.

And guys and girls, that's not something to worry about. Guys like girls including their emerging breasts. Girls like guys including their dicks, in my limited experience girls cannot stop staring when they see a dick. And I'm normal sized, that's all.

But this is the age of maximum fertility. When a boy and a girl could pair off, get married and have a family of 8 lovely kids. Not welfare brats, not kids with 8 different baby daddies, a real family.

As an economist, I'm familiar with the idea that full information leads to the "first-best" outcome, whereas fuzzy information leads to inferior outcomes. It might allow people to skip some of the awkward early parts of dating, where the guy has to worry about whether he can get somewhere with the girl or if she'll friend-zone him, etc.

I am sure this is NOT the goal envisioned by the LGBTQXYZW weirdos pushing this thing. But neither was it Obama's goal to turn George Zimmerman into a folk hero. Sometimes things turn out better than expected!
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11 years ago (August 5th 2002) my wife died ,i felt quite weird all thru' the day before ,headaches ,difficulty in breathing aches and pains , i wonder if it was actually me who died and i am actually living in some kinda hell .............
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35192810


hmmmn,me too.i bought a book on psychics who claim many "ghosts" have no idea that they're dead,scary. though how it's connected to this thread beats me!
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Well here is the connection ... This world is totally fucked up and right is now wrong and wrong is now right .. yah got trannies undressing in little girls changing rooms , gays adopting kids then abusing them , just 2 examples of a crazy world .. governments trying every trick in the book to get yah cash ,100,000 + immigrants invading countries you complaint about immigration and your called a racist . everything seems so f'cked its like my own personal kinda hell ................
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No truth in the land
No respect in the land
No honor in the land
No Godliness in the land..


Just a Land of Sewer and Stench...


Sad days...

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..third bathroom with a "?" on the door. This is so messed up and totally justifies home schooling.
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OK let me get this right...

My child would not be allowed to wear a cross necklace, a rosary, or a shirt defending his/her 2nd amendment right to school
BUT
An 18 year old man would be allowed to shower with my daughter?

Aint America just great?
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Yeah, great ain't it. Teachers have a hard enough time keeping the kids under control at school. I can't imagine what this will do.
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..third bathroom with a "?" on the door. This is so messed up and totally justifies home schooling.
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Whole world is messed up ,it needs an ELE to cleanse the scum off with all the ott Pc .............
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OK let me get this right...

My child would not be allowed to wear a cross necklace, a rosary, or a shirt defending his/her 2nd amendment right to school
BUT
An 18 year old man would be allowed to shower with my daughter?

Aint America just great?
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Yeah, great ain't it. Teachers have a hard enough time keeping the kids under control at school. I can't imagine what this will do.
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do you really think tragendered children would even be seen let alone use a bathroom. hermaphrodites are just as rare. If the parents approve what does it matter unless your religion thinks you should judge children being transgender growingup as an adult to while there parents accept. This law is not a major concern to the parents of these children who use them.
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[link to lynleahz.com] --- there it is, not the only article lately to discuss California's new avante-garde school policies. So you're a hot-to-trot 18 y/o guy, and have been wanting to "get to know" that cute 13 y/o girl who lives a few houses away, who is so shy towards you? Now you can just go take a shower with her at school, use the bathroom, and locker rooms with the girls. Lots of other possibilities, whoooopie! Ain't liberalism great.
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you're just mad it wasn't your generation
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Feminin looking males with makeup, glitter, boobs? Higheels, pink etc walking into a male bathroom should be more of a cocern. They donot want them to the bathroom?
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Seriously....when you were growing up, what percent of you and your friends worried about choosing their gender?

How many, however, had more (clearly) trivial concerns like finding a boyfriend/girlfriend, dealing with arguing parents, making friends, avoiding bullying, having money, concerns over future...

Nah, fuck all that. Let's concentrate on where you can piss without fear.

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..third bathroom with a "?" on the door. This is so messed up and totally justifies home schooling.
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I heard a school in Thailand has this...and there's a country which stands as a beacon to the world that such developments will not lead to widespread pedophelia...

In Thailand, though the exact numbers are not known, it has been estimated that children make up to 9% of prostitutes in the country.

(Wiki)
If you believe that corruption exists,would it not then be clear that corrupt people would do anything to hide evidence of their corruption?This is why conspiracy theories exist.Only because corruption exists.
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i think this is a good thing. not buying into the paranoid fearmongerig about how some creeps will abuse it. creeps and criminals don't give a shit and abuse everyone adn everything anyway.
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Feminin looking males with makeup, glitter, boobs? Higheels, pink etc walking into a male bathroom should be more of a cocern. They donot want them to the bathroom?
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If they are males they shouldn't go to school dressed like that. Problem solved!
DUST TO GLORY!!!
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If they made them dress in School uniforms it would eliminate the problem....

A Uniform for Males
A Uniform for Females

Nobody will be confused in which bathroom to use...


If you think you are a canine, use the bushes...

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Caning? Yes!

Oh...you said canine....

uk
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I'm sorry but I find this absolutely disgusting.

How many of these young kids are even going to understand what this means? I highly doubt that there are huge numbers of them that would warrant all the kids choosing their gender.

Is this really going to be a daily thing? WTF. Either you are or you are not, it shouldn't change daily.

I totally can see alot of boys and girls alike, lying just out of curiosity to get into the opposite sex's bathroom and locker room for the day. I see rape, unwanted touching, an increase in teen pregnancy. This could spiral out of control quite quickly.

Instead of allowing children to choose for themselves, if this is seriously a huge issue with California kids, maybe it should come with a doctors order and be well documented. I also think the children need counseling... Not to offend the LGBT, but the rest of the country isn't as open to this as apparently Californians are, the children need to know what to expect as they grow older.

There has to be a way to know who truly is having gender questions and who is doing for fun. How many of these parents are to blame? Their son wants to play with a barbie doll one day and the next day they put him in a dress and tell everyone they better accept him for who he is. Does he even know who he is? The neighbor boy always played dolls with me just as I played cars with him. Neither of our parents thought that there was anything "unique" about us or tried to force us into thinking we were a different sex.

THIS IS OUT OF CONTROL!!! WTF IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE!!!

I think it's time for California to fall into the ocean, especially after reading at the end of the article some of the other insane laws that have been passed. 5-yr-olds shouldn't be taught about sex!!!

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Not to be crass, but what pubescent girl wants to deal with their menstrual issues in front of males? Most young girls are embarrassed to even buy feminine products much less deal with a male in the room while they are using them. Even if he is wearing a dress and lipstick.
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Make tranny bathrooms and get done with it. More tax payers money but at least it's not this madness.
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Thank G-D. I've been told by my two year old(at the time) that he like dresses and barbie dolls. I had a very serious discussion covering all the ramifications this could lead to with my then two year old. He mostly looked at me and picked his nose but I have no doubt of his intentions. He was a women trapped in a two year old body.

I'm glad his 4 years now of effort to be who he wants to be has not been in vain.

he also wants to be a super hero like batman but a little diff. i told him that will have to wait until we can get the required funds to make that happen. He truly is a super hero trapped in an ordinary body. Sad
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Not to be crass, but what pubescent girl wants to deal with their menstrual issues in front of males? Most young girls are embarrassed to even buy feminine products much less deal with a male in the room while they are using them. Even if he is wearing a dress and lipstick.
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I don't know, never had dsughters.

But they have all learned about menstruation in health class by then, it's not like it's some big secret.

Girls bleed, boys get hard, maybe everyone will develop a bit of camaraderie and giggle about these things. Well maybe, who knows ...
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Not to be crass, but what pubescent girl wants to deal with their menstrual issues in front of males? Most young girls are embarrassed to even buy feminine products much less deal with a male in the room while they are using them. Even if he is wearing a dress and lipstick.
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I don't know, never had dsughters.

But they have all learned about menstruation in health class by then, it's not like it's some big secret.

Girls bleed, boys get hard, maybe everyone will develop a bit of camaraderie and giggle about these things. Well maybe, who knows ...
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A camaraderie, yes, I can see that....

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I totally can see alot of boys and girls alike, lying just out of curiosity to get into the opposite sex's bathroom and locker room for the day. I see rape, unwanted touching, an increase in teen pregnancy. This could spiral out of control quite quickly.
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 Quoting: ** Doom Prepper**

Well of course that's what we're talking about. Mainly, about boys "negotiating" their way into girls' locker rooms and bathrooms.

Unwanted touching? Well you know there are lesbians so there could be unwanted touching even with all girls. Or among boys with gay boys. I don't see in principle how this is any different. You simply don't touch the privates of others now, how would this change things? The same rule would apply.
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Not to be crass, but what pubescent girl wants to deal with their menstrual issues in front of males? Most young girls are embarrassed to even buy feminine products much less deal with a male in the room while they are using them. Even if he is wearing a dress and lipstick.
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I don't know, never had dsughters.

But they have all learned about menstruation in health class by then, it's not like it's some big secret.

Girls bleed, boys get hard, maybe everyone will develop a bit of camaraderie and giggle about these things. Well maybe, who knows ...
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Well, I am a female and a mother of a teen girl and I would not appreciate it nor would she. Doesn't matter if she has had the talk. Some people still have some modesty in this world believe it or not.
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Not to be crass, but what pubescent girl wants to deal with their menstrual issues in front of males? Most young girls are embarrassed to even buy feminine products much less deal with a male in the room while they are using them. Even if he is wearing a dress and lipstick.
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I don't know, never had dsughters.

But they have all learned about menstruation in health class by then, it's not like it's some big secret.

Girls bleed, boys get hard, maybe everyone will develop a bit of camaraderie and giggle about these things. Well maybe, who knows ...
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Well, I am a female and a mother of a teen girl and I would not appreciate it nor would she. Doesn't matter if she has had the talk. Some people still have some modesty in this world believe it or not.
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Not to be crass, but what pubescent girl wants to deal with their menstrual issues in front of males? Most young girls are embarrassed to even buy feminine products much less deal with a male in the room while they are using them. Even if he is wearing a dress and lipstick.
 Quoting: DCD


I don't know, never had dsughters.

But they have all learned about menstruation in health class by then, it's not like it's some big secret.

Girls bleed, boys get hard, maybe everyone will develop a bit of camaraderie and giggle about these things. Well maybe, who knows ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43628707


Well, I am a female and a mother of a teen girl and I would not appreciate it nor would she. Doesn't matter if she has had the talk. Some people still have some modesty in this world believe it or not.
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Are you an oppressed minority? No? Then no one cares about how you feel.
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Not to be crass, but what pubescent girl wants to deal with their menstrual issues in front of males? Most young girls are embarrassed to even buy feminine products much less deal with a male in the room while they are using them. Even if he is wearing a dress and lipstick.
 Quoting: DCD


I don't know, never had dsughters.

But they have all learned about menstruation in health class by then, it's not like it's some big secret.

Girls bleed, boys get hard, maybe everyone will develop a bit of camaraderie and giggle about these things. Well maybe, who knows ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43628707


Well, I am a female and a mother of a teen girl and I would not appreciate it nor would she. Doesn't matter if she has had the talk. Some people still have some modesty in this world believe it or not.
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Not to be crass, but what pubescent girl wants to deal with their menstrual issues in front of males? Most young girls are embarrassed to even buy feminine products much less deal with a male in the room while they are using them. Even if he is wearing a dress and lipstick.
 Quoting: DCD


I don't know, never had dsughters.

But they have all learned about menstruation in health class by then, it's not like it's some big secret.

Girls bleed, boys get hard, maybe everyone will develop a bit of camaraderie and giggle about these things. Well maybe, who knows ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43628707


Well, I am a female and a mother of a teen girl and I would not appreciate it nor would she. Doesn't matter if she has had the talk. Some people still have some modesty in this world believe it or not.
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Are you an oppressed minority? No? Then no one cares about how you feel.
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Give me a break. Why should the entire school system be changed because of a few "oppressed minorities"? Let them go to the teachers restroom if they are so uncomfortable.

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