Snowden and Assange are CIA fakes

Start with Assange. An Australian, living in Sweden?, working for the CIA is hellbent on damaging the United States diplomatic standing with its allies. Why exactly would that be?

The "damage" that Assange did to the USA is cosmetic....It is known as "sheep dipping"

After building up his "street cred"...he revealed his true purpose by "leaking" the damaging info that triggered the Arab Spring riots and the fall of Berlusconi in Italy....Assange ADMITS this...

Assange is a WEAPON used to take down anyone on the USA / EU shit list

Google: "Fake and Fakers / Assange and Snowden"

Ex-Israeli intel agent Ari ben-Menasche once defined everyone into three categories, from the perspective of intel agencies. ie you are one or more of:
- agents (paid people consciously aligned to an agency)
- assets (anybody used, knowingly or unknowingly by an agent)
- arseholes (the rest of us)

Assange is and was NOT an agent. You can argue he is an asset being used by people he trusts, and in doing so he is further their agenda.

Snowden was a sub-contractor - ie not even an agent. Again he was/is an asset, not an agent.


Calling someone a CIA fake is a bit dumb - it doesn't even make sense. I realise you are only airing your perceptions of what you read around the place or see in the news.


Should I point out also, that it is in most agency's interests for the public to view both Assange and Snowden as agents in play - which means the public support for both is eroded.

If I wanted to kill public support for both players, I'd be paying shills to post opinions like this at forums like this.

Qualify your opinions with facts, or stand accused of being a dupe or a paid shill.

FOOLS YOU ALL ARE!!!!

A true "whistleblower" would NEVER be hyped on the front page of The NY Times!!!!

It's entirely possible.

Snowden more so than Wikileaks perhaps.

Snowden was used to get the heat off of the CIA (Benghazi) and on to the NSA (they don't play nice, as it's all about power and who has it over whom in D.C.)

NSA has something on the CIA / Benghazi that it is using against them in some manner. It's a power play. Internal war.

Keep in mind that Snowden may not even be aware that he is being used (yes this is possible). More likely though he was given a task and he executed on it. Simple as that. And went into FSB protection in Moscow where he can be protected and lay low for a while. A deal was made somewhere along the line between russia and the US.

And Obama is likely caught in the middle in this one. Damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. It all goes back to the call he made on wether or not to provide assistance to the CIA house in Benghazi. He chose not to, so that it would not expose or create interest in what they were doing there. It blew up anyway.

Turned into a no win situation. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

What the hell was Benghazi really about?

That's the real question.

Link?

I guess they are more like Illuminati operatives getting their orders from higher levels of the pyramid and exposing stuff not for the sake of the truth, but to create tension between USA, EU and Russia.

and hollywood is working alongside the CIA and developing movies. Look at the trailer for "The Fifth Estate"

I've had similar thoughts, OP.

Why? Because if Snowden was truly a threat and could literally completely blow the lid on ALL corruption in the USA, he would have been dead in a fucking ditch before his name even made the news.

THink about it. The media hypes it, and then the average citizen assumes that their cell phone or emails MIGHT be recorded...... Meanwhile, the CIA is smuggling thousands of Kilos of Heroin out of Afghanistan, there are high level government pedophilia rings in operation, Americans are being murdered for speaking out, and we're still paying illegal taxes.

The fucking bottom line is that Snowden has nothing because he's still alive. End of story. When your enemy has ALL of the money and ALL of the resources in the world at their fingertips, you cannot hide, no matter what. Not in Russia, not in venezuela, not anywhere. It's as simple as that.

I bet if they were really whistleblowers TPTB would have sent the jackals after them.

What damage has wikileaks committed? apart from allowing public cabals to be viewed on a site?

I agree. If they wanted him they could get him. Also note that he hasn't really let any real info. out. Certainly nothing that was not already known.

If he is fake it would be hard to prove. Wonder if the NSA knows if he's real or not?

Oh the irony.

same thoughts here, OP !

sayin´ this for a while, made a thread here that it is strange Mr Snowden first had the name "Eric" and now "Edward",
as a "Eric Snowden" is involved in Social Media worldwide live studies...
Thread: NSA scandal: WHY did the media first report ERIC and now changes all articles to EDWARD Snowden ?

and most of all, this one, including the link to ERIC Snowden & study:

Thread: BRK ! !read! E. Snowden: "Data-Driven Bottom-Line Results: Making Social Media Actionable – A Real-World Case Study."

dang...pretty slick..vick.....

To a certain way of looking and being in the world the rise of the information hive is a kind of Moloch. This idol organizes prime human awareness to the ends of the priestly class in the service to the idol. I submit this model of human development is a primary characteristic of governance. The motif we see playing out with Manning, Assange, and Snowden is the Butoh dance of power on the threshing floor of history.
Nations contort themselves as men desport.

And the NSA chimes in:


I Know What An NSA Whistleblower Looks Like, And Edward Snowden Isn't One
JOHN SCHINDLER, THE XX COMMITTEE

Sorry, I know my whistleblowers, and Ed’s no whistleblower.

His whistleblower act looked a lot more plausible when Ed started out and his revelations of TOP SECRET CODEWORD material at least seemed to be aimed at exposing domestic operations by NSA that, in theory, could impact the lives of a lot of Americans.

But that shtick didn’t last long, in no small part because Ed’s media handlers didn’t present the details honestly, but more importantly because young Mr Snowden then embarked on his Magical Mystery Tour from Hong Kong to Moscow, where he remains as of this writing, his ultimate destination far from clear. As a whistleblower, Ed Snowden is simply a fraud.

I say this confidently because I know what a real NSA whistleblower looks like. I grew up with one.

Read on at the link:

[link to www.businessinsider.com]

I agree 100 percent !!!

Wikileaks is clearly a fraud. Funny how they released information that was in the best interests of US foreign policy at just the right time. Arab spring etc. Throw in their failure to release the B of A information they supposedly had and the whole thing screams bunk.

Whether or not Snowden is a fake I'm not sure. The media has done everything they could to distort the real story. There has been no acknowledgment that anything will change. And the spot light is off spying and on Snowden's story. Completely distorted and twisted as to what to the real issue is.

Maybe the NSA scandal and repealing Obamacare will be the republicans platform to take back the presidency in 2016. This whole mess has to be the groundwork for some thing bigger.

I AGREE!!!! THE WHOLE THING SEEMS SO FAKE. SO SNOWDEN...I MEAN "YOU WERE SNOWED" WAS SITING IN A AIRPORT FOR HOW LONG?? AND SUPPOSEDLY THE ALL SEEING EYE OF THE USA WITH BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN HIGH SECURITY CAMERAS AND TRACKING SYSTEMS AND TSA OFFICERS DIDNT KNOW HERE HE WAS HEADING NEXT????


PLEEEEEEEESE!

Problem with your theory is that the world's tolerance for the usa has gone negative for almost the last decade- most septics are too stupid to realize this tho

Seriously- just look at the crap the usa has pulled (and dragged others into as well) since 11/9...

And you wonder why `people' are out to get you??

wonder why???

Sadly we all get to see exactly what happens to people who have the `nerve' to air the yanks dirty laundry in public

Again it only goes to show the bare faced hipocrasy of the usa- instead of going after the real crooks exposed by wikileaks and Snowden- they all fall into line like the good little brainwashed sheep they are and try and discredit and indeed even use criminal actions themselves to try and get them where their cia/fbi can actually get their grubby little hands on them!!! (luckily that is fewer and fewer places these days LOL)

We ARE watching you- and are quite frankly disgusted by you

Shame that the many `good' yanks invariably end up getting tarred by the same brush, so much so that I, like many others- regard all as being at the same (low) level, I ignore them all until they actually `prove' that they are worth spending time on

Truth be told :)

This is my suspicion, too. Tarpley hypothesizes that Snowden is being used by the Powers that want war (boots on the ground) in Syria and he is blackmailing Obama into it. The more Obama wavers on all-out-war, the more Snowden drips out embarrassing and even impeachable material for the O administration.

Agents get air time by msm

Real whistle blowers who are not scripted get ignored

Tice.....Sosbee....McKinney.....Richard Taus are real patriots

Under Cheney's one percent Doctrine.....and Holder/Obama policy on targeted killings....and satellite torture....and rendition........we are supposed to believe that Snowden is too clever to be reached?.....while telephoning from Hong Kong hotel room a mile from US Embassey?

And now Putin is a civil rights protector?

This is how NSA police state shows you what they can get away with.......and the snow job involves all the bogus NSA-FBI oversight to make sure the police state militarized DOUBLESPEAK sufficiently confuses anyone trying to figure out what is ot being admitted (targeted murders under one percent doctrine during an FBI illegal surveillance of THOMAS S BEAN IN SOUTH DAKOTA).

All swept under the rug by ERIC "war criminal" HOLDER?

GREENWALD never once wrote an explicit piece on Bean's facts?

ACLU Nat securitv Div under former FBI agent...never interviewed Bean?

GREENWALD has to be seen as a crypto Zionist fascist as well

He didn't cover Tice wi the same gusto

Didn't cover Thomas Bean's story from S Dakota

Thomas is not a scripted phony pony

If they wanted to push a button, they can take Snowman's credit cards away?

They can block Snowman's calls to GREENWALD?

How come they did not kill GREENWALD? Or Assange?

They have the legal theories and means....and history down pat?

How come they did not murder Thomas in South Dakota??????