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Message Subject Simple yet profound question for Freemasons...
Poster Handle Anonymous Coward
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I spoke with a first degree Freemason who admitted that he knew very little about the degrees above him (especially the highest degrees) and he admitted that many 33rd degree masons were totally corrupt and evil but he "knew" that Freemasonry was a good society overall...

Simple question:

How is it possible that Freemasons KNOW that the secret degrees above them are GOOD and that Freemasonry is a good society overall? (According to my experience and research there are many Masons who would say exactly what that what the guy I spoke to said.)

My opinion is that you don't know what anything is above you in Freemasonry until you get there because it's a secret! That's simple logic that's irrefutable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12615535


There are a number of related organizations which have as a prerequisite to joining that one be a Master Mason. It's in these related organizations where the nefarious things happen.
 Quoting: DrSalt


So you're an actual 33rd degree Mason then?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12615535


No. There are no Masonic secrets these days. Anything you want to know can be found online. You can read their own texts. Masonic lodges have web sites. You can also find testimonies of former Masons. Master Masons have opportunities to further their studies in appendant degrees or in other organizations in such subjects as: comparative mythology, comparative religion, spiritual alchemy, necromancy, goetic evocation, enochian evocation, hermetic qabala, magnetism, etc.
 Quoting: DrSalt


You don't know for sure until you get there, end of story.

This was written by a Masonic writer:

Freemasonry is labyrinthine. It is full of puzzles, conundrums, misspellings, corruptions, cryptic clues, and simple salutes, childish codes, contrivances, circular paths, roads that sometimes lead nowhere, walls appearing to be ten feet thick yet giving way easily to the lightest touch in the right spot, riddles to be solved, numerous passwords, an allegorical, highly symbolical, double-entendre storyline worthy of the best latter-day spy writers, protected by secret signs and symbols and a myriad of enigmas to be confronted…In the labyrinth that is Freemasonry there is a center where rests its holy grail. Many have tried to find it only to reach dead ends - Leon Davin (The Ritual: The Greatest Story Never Told)

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