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you're annoying, it's been over since 1990.
stupid fear mongering propaganda
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We're at the end of the rope. It's sink or swim, and to be completely candid here, the US of A has shown we're not very good swimmers. Lets fight before it's too late.
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O/P you are on an awakening, but you're not there yet! If you want to take from The Beast, you've got to feed The Beast, you have to serve The Beast. That's it!

Let go of hope fairy tails and happy endings and the American Dream. See things for what they are, come to terms with your place in the world. If you want financial reward... Feed The Beast. If you want spiritual reward seek out whatever you are after.

The Beast provides all sorts of material fruit, but comes at human cost. The cost that you no longer need to scratch the ground just to feed your belly. Free-loaders are not welcome.
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learn to swim...
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Yeah and . . .

failing that, grow some gills.

Life wins.
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and this the billionth time it's over

yup, it's over, pretty much...............
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Fuck the Revolution!

Bring on the Apocalypse!
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Your not the only ones guys , the same feelings and observations are certainly true in England and I suspect the rest of the western world ?

Like a funny man once said " I hope Africa has some really good musicians , because we are in desperate need for a concert"
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EVERY person lies for personal gain. To your face, and behind your back. Even your closest most trusted friends and loved ones, lie to you regularly.

Like you, I used to think there was a greater good. THta humanity had a heart. But I see so much greed, so much hate, and callousness. If you fall on hard times, get sick, or be a "Good Samaritan", nobody really gives a fuck.

It's all about "me, me, me". Self-centered hypocritical lying assholes, one and all. I wish I figured this out before I brought my kids into the world. Even they will grow to be expert liars.

Why do we all lie?

Because of the failing non-sustainable bullshit society we have built around ourselves, where it's truly dog eat dog, survival of the fittest, and fuck everyone else! It's part of who we are. Self preservation. Liars.

We send our kids to school, we tell them them they'll compete and win, but it's all bullshit. They go on to university thinking they will rule the world, but most end up working minimum wage in a coffee shop, while those running the universities suck every last drop of blood from their students like parasites, and leave them in debt. What a way for a young person to start they're life!

Then one day you wake up and realize that there's only so many pieces of the pie to go round, and we're all willing to lie to get the biggest piece.

Sure there are exceptions, but sadly the more I look at the world with my eyes open wide, the more I come to realize that this world is full of lying assholes. Our society is founded on it.

verysad
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EVERY person lies for personal gain. To your face, and behind your back. Even your closest most trusted friends and loved ones, lie to you regularly.

Like you, I used to think there was a greater good. THta humanity had a heart. But I see so much greed, so much hate, and callousness. If you fall on hard times, get sick, or be a "Good Samaritan", nobody really gives a fuck.

It's all about "me, me, me". Self-centered hypocritical lying assholes, one and all. I wish I figured this out before I brought my kids into the world. Even they will grow to be expert liars.

Why do we all lie?

Because of the failing non-sustainable bullshit society we have built around ourselves, where it's truly dog eat dog, survival of the fittest, and fuck everyone else! It's part of who we are. Self preservation. Liars.

We send our kids to school, we tell them them they'll compete and win, but it's all bullshit. They go on to university thinking they will rule the world, but most end up working minimum wage in a coffee shop, while those running the universities suck every last drop of blood from their students like parasites, and leave them in debt. What a way for a young person to start they're life!

Then one day you wake up and realize that there's only so many pieces of the pie to go round, and we're all willing to lie to get the biggest piece.

Sure there are exceptions, but sadly the more I look at the world with my eyes open wide, the more I come to realize that this world is full of lying assholes. Our society is founded on it.

verysad
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clapclapclap

But you forgot to mention the very expensive indoctrination the students are left with on top of the almost insurmountable debt, which is one enormous lie they are paying for!

History shows that revolution always consists of the same players - left vs. right.

This time will be no different.

Those calling for peace and love among all of mankind are noble, but naive at best.

Less than 10% of the American population actually fought in the American civil war. If those numbers are even close this time around, we're talking about 35 million people.
"Moral of the story is I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again.

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It's only over for losers.
It ain't over for me.
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OP, your howl in the night very much resonates with me. My favorite aunt (recently departed - Im glad she's not watching this shit show anymore) used to say some of us are definitely wired differently. We used to look at those sucked into "whats in it for me", win-lose, scarcity thinking and just ask, "Why?" Now I ask mostly on my own. Why has win-win become such a foreign concept in the land where Franklin invented the Chamber of Commerce to grow business for all Philly printers rather than cutthroat compete with each other. It seems that was not only another time, but another planet.

I do hope that McKenna's logic can win the day, but like you I am demoralized.

Let me share my truth with you OP. As a lesbian, I would ask you to not so cavilierly lump gay people in with "all that is wrong with America". It is a founding concept, albeit flickering in the wind, that our Creator endowed both of us with the right to pursue happiness. In recently marrying the love of my life, I see a dwindling affirmation of that right, and in that pursuit I am certainly not seeking to weaken what our country represents, indeed it is a small glimmer of those dwindling rights as I see it. You can disagree with my pursuit of happiness, as is your right (for now) as an American; indeed, I will stand for your 1st amendment right to express yourself. But given what is an obvious integrity to your person I ask you to ponder if supporting my right even as you disagree with it is not a small truly American, truly radical notion that just might bring you a bit of personal fortitude.
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But you are part of the problem, so shut the fuck up queer and go back into the closet with your filthy habits.


You're right OP, there's not enough people awake to it though, it's going to take something to pull the plug and that means things will get worse, before they get better.
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Pure hatred
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It is hatred. Aimless. Ignorant. Animal. And I don't even think it originates in the real hearts of most of its mouthpieces. We have got to stop focusing on our little pet peeves if we are going to survive. Gay neighbor with a gun and some food, woman neighbor with a gun and some food, Islamic neighbor with a gun and some food . . . None of that will exist. It will be good neighbor, bad neighbor, dead neighbor. You wanna turn down a gay sandwich as you starve? Go ahead, siblings. I'll see y'all on the other side when I get there WAY THE FUCK LATER.

OH MY GOD!!! When will we pull our heads out of the sand? Anything ANYTHING anything that divides this growing minority of conscious humans and tempts us to set against ourselves over anything has been planted like a poison seed among us to divide us and dilute our strength. Divide, conquer. Divide, conquer. Divide, conquer. Together, we live. Wedged apart by those who would enslave us, we die. If a negative feeling takes up more than 5 seconds of your time and it's not aimed DIRECTLY at your oppressors (not those who you think they wield as tools and influencers), check yourself.

agent=billgates=cruise=bushfing=dick=kim=putin=hillary=ogrrr=clinton no

All the same. And don't y'all fucking forget it.
 Quoting: L'Ange Trempé


Well, you obviously know nothig about the occultic sodomite psychopaths running the show and how their sick witchcraft has caused so much fuckery getting this country where it is now! That gay shit is the same dividing tactic as all the others. Tell that to the rainbow selfish crowd that doesn't give a fuck about this country.

You can't preach peace&unity without these truths.

I still feel there's hope though and a great revenge is coming! TPTB could get their asses kicked right now if the people weren't so "intimidated" by PC bullshit!
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OP, your howl in the night very much resonates with me. My favorite aunt (recently departed - Im glad she's not watching this shit show anymore) used to say some of us are definitely wired differently. We used to look at those sucked into "whats in it for me", win-lose, scarcity thinking and just ask, "Why?" Now I ask mostly on my own. Why has win-win become such a foreign concept in the land where Franklin invented the Chamber of Commerce to grow business for all Philly printers rather than cutthroat compete with each other. It seems that was not only another time, but another planet.

I do hope that McKenna's logic can win the day, but like you I am demoralized.

Let me share my truth with you OP. As a lesbian, I would ask you to not so cavilierly lump gay people in with "all that is wrong with America". It is a founding concept, albeit flickering in the wind, that our Creator endowed both of us with the right to pursue happiness. In recently marrying the love of my life, I see a dwindling affirmation of that right, and in that pursuit I am certainly not seeking to weaken what our country represents, indeed it is a small glimmer of those dwindling rights as I see it. You can disagree with my pursuit of happiness, as is your right (for now) as an American; indeed, I will stand for your 1st amendment right to express yourself. But given what is an obvious integrity to your person I ask you to ponder if supporting my right even as you disagree with it is not a small truly American, truly radical notion that just might bring you a bit of personal fortitude.
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But you are part of the problem, so shut the fuck up queer and go back into the closet with your filthy habits.


You're right OP, there's not enough people awake to it though, it's going to take something to pull the plug and that means things will get worse, before they get better.
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The 97% of us who are getting reamed by the international corporations and the global banks include gays, blacks, people on disability, Hispanics, whites, Christians, atheists, skin-heads, Muslims, liberals, and conservatives. As long as we continue to hate and attack each other, the financiers and the globalists win. They seem to be the only ones who don't give a fuck about any of the social differences. WE are all just sheep to them, and our job is to consume. consume, consume. That's all. Rack up debt, get sick, and end up paying all the money you worked for all your life to the medical/industrial/pharmaceutical/military complex. As long as we allow our clannish behavior to obscure what we have in common, we will never have a chance at beating them.

So, Hater,

stfu
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one thing you mentioned is how people just keep screwing over other people way more than could ever be necessary and that, by itself, harms the world. and their behavior creates more and more people who chose to be like them. that's how it begins, maybe.
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You're 100% right. We only know what we're taught until we wake up.

America's just a business now and nobody cares about helping out anyone anymore.

This might be a stupid example but, just take rent for instance. We have to pay our fellow human beings to live on this earth in a wooden shelter surrounded by some grass to make it look nice and to keep it clean looking. Once one of our fellow human beings owns a wooden shelter and decides to rent it out they extract as much money as they can from the person they rent their wooden shelter out to, but hey it's just business right? /sarc

This behavior has been taught to millions and millions of sheep who are only hurting other sheep by doing exactly what the banksters have taught our society. Just think the by the book sheep spend 30 years of their lives working and slaving for something that is basically a wooden box with windows. We are so brainwashed that we think this is how humans are supposed to live. Can you believe that mankind has been tricked into paying others to live on earth? That's not natural.

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We've all been bamboozled to no end. We need a reset button.
Que Sera, Sera!
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You know, I've been doing a lot of thinking about this whole NSA thing recently. See, I have never been in a position where my whistleblowing could ever help anyone. I haven't had anyone tell me "Don't tell anyone, or it'll suck for me" or anything like that. So I give this disclaimer before I even begin, because I have no idea what these guys are going through.

But if I just imagine, for a second, myself being put into the situation of having to either help the common man by "tattle tailing" on my authority figures or keeping my mouth shut, I gotta say I'll probably just look the other way and go on about my day.

I wasn't like this though.

I wasn't a coward, a fucking pussy who would rather watch American Idol and forget about the bad things like every other yellow-blooded American.

I used to be the guy who ran to the front of the line to help, who thought there was an actual "greater good" that one aspires to be like.

Then as I grew up a little, I realized everyone was lying to me to help themselves. It was religion first. I realized by using basic deductive reasoning that these people were lying to me, and I couldn't trust the few people who I looked to for guidance (church).

If that wasn't bad enough, I had to re-learn everything since the lies they told really fucked me up. While re-learning, I realized that other people were lying, and usually for simple reasons like padding their pockets or feeding their families.

I get it, you have a wife and kids to feed, but after a while, come on, whoever it is pulling the strings in your head has to stop and think "Am I being a fucking asshole? Am I making the world better or worse? (Not MY world, THE world?)" and really come to terms with the answers, the truth is the truth.

We are bombarded by lies from all angles, from our local newspaper ads (fine print) to the radio ads (restrictions apply) to our own government (Bengazi, Libya, 911 Commission, do I really need to keep going?).

Whenever I hear ANYTHING anymore that's being touted as "news", I ask myself what agenda it's feeding into. It makes you feel untrustworthy inside, like a bad person, always looking for the angle, always thinking "what's in it for them?".

Now I studied a bunch of KGB Soviet subversion techniques back in my heyday, and this really seems like a targeted campaign of strict demoralization of the American people. From who and by who, I do not know.

What I do know is that the TSA treating people like cattle is subversion (you're nothing, we rule you mentality).

The reality TV shows that highlight horrible trashy people and give them rewards for being pieces of human excrement is demoralizing to us. (why act respectable when the shitheads get everything?)

The "credit" system that is very corruptable (there's companies that sell "trade lines" if you need credit. So essentially the credit score system is a huge scam, I went from 620 to 798 in 2 weeks and got my home loan) If you can PAY you can PLAY.

The leader in our "government" is just a REAAAAALLLY good liar, and he knows it, and we know it, and everyone knows it. Being caught in lies does nothing, it's business as usual. Lies upon lies, fake crying for dead kids is OK, lies about his transcripts, lies about dead people and drone strikes, all lies with no consequences from the one authority figure we look to for support.

The one time the truth comes out, the truth is imprisoned and put in jail. The truth is called "TREASON" and no one cares. The truth is put through the ringer, in solitary confinement for months, the truth is tortured until the real TRAITORS feel like it.

Close your eyes and picture the silence inside Bradley Manning's dark solitary cell. He doesn't know there's a handful of people working for him. He doesn't know Twitter hashtags are going crazy with Honey Boo Boo and everyone forgot about him. He sees black, and the truth is forgotten about for cheap thrills and $1.50 beer specials.

This is NOT about Bradley Manning or Edward Snowden. This is about THE TRUTH. The truth is under fire, and it is not strong enough to fight anymore. It's being choked out by the greed of a few. I think it was Terence McKenna who said "If any institution can be destroyed with truth, than that institution DESERVES to be destroyed by truth. Whatever is left is what we need. The truth doesn't need your cooperation to exist, all else does."

We're at the end of the rope. It's sink or swim, and to be completely candid here, the US of A has shown we're not very good swimmers. Lets fight before it's too late.

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gonzo2
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clappa
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That's the most clear bit of writing I have read in, well, YEARS - you most definitely must be avoiding the fluoride?

I applaud you for speaking the truth about all the lies - I think this myself - like, how is everyone in America in such a coma? Being groomed into apathy - as long as they manage to keep the skeleton of what we used to be somehow afloat - the media/TV/Movies/Credit/Handouts/Music/Nicotene/Pills/SEX/Perv​ersions, etc etc to pacify us - oh, and keep the food rolling, got to have our food STAMPS - fatten us up and we won't say a WORD...
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You know, I've been doing a lot of thinking about this whole NSA thing recently. See, I have never been in a position where my whistleblowing could ever help anyone. I haven't had anyone tell me "Don't tell anyone, or it'll suck for me" or anything like that. So I give this disclaimer before I even begin, because I have no idea what these guys are going through.

But if I just imagine, for a second, myself being put into the situation of having to either help the common man by "tattle tailing" on my authority figures or keeping my mouth shut, I gotta say I'll probably just look the other way and go on about my day.

I wasn't like this though.

I wasn't a coward, a fucking pussy who would rather watch American Idol and forget about the bad things like every other yellow-blooded American.

I used to be the guy who ran to the front of the line to help, who thought there was an actual "greater good" that one aspires to be like.

Then as I grew up a little, I realized everyone was lying to me to help themselves. It was religion first. I realized by using basic deductive reasoning that these people were lying to me, and I couldn't trust the few people who I looked to for guidance (church).

If that wasn't bad enough, I had to re-learn everything since the lies they told really fucked me up. While re-learning, I realized that other people were lying, and usually for simple reasons like padding their pockets or feeding their families.

I get it, you have a wife and kids to feed, but after a while, come on, whoever it is pulling the strings in your head has to stop and think "Am I being a fucking asshole? Am I making the world better or worse? (Not MY world, THE world?)" and really come to terms with the answers, the truth is the truth.

We are bombarded by lies from all angles, from our local newspaper ads (fine print) to the radio ads (restrictions apply) to our own government (Bengazi, Libya, 911 Commission, do I really need to keep going?).

Whenever I hear ANYTHING anymore that's being touted as "news", I ask myself what agenda it's feeding into. It makes you feel untrustworthy inside, like a bad person, always looking for the angle, always thinking "what's in it for them?".

Now I studied a bunch of KGB Soviet subversion techniques back in my heyday, and this really seems like a targeted campaign of strict demoralization of the American people. From who and by who, I do not know.

What I do know is that the TSA treating people like cattle is subversion (you're nothing, we rule you mentality).

The reality TV shows that highlight horrible trashy people and give them rewards for being pieces of human excrement is demoralizing to us. (why act respectable when the shitheads get everything?)

The "credit" system that is very corruptable (there's companies that sell "trade lines" if you need credit. So essentially the credit score system is a huge scam, I went from 620 to 798 in 2 weeks and got my home loan) If you can PAY you can PLAY.

The leader in our "government" is just a REAAAAALLLY good liar, and he knows it, and we know it, and everyone knows it. Being caught in lies does nothing, it's business as usual. Lies upon lies, fake crying for dead kids is OK, lies about his transcripts, lies about dead people and drone strikes, all lies with no consequences from the one authority figure we look to for support.

The one time the truth comes out, the truth is imprisoned and put in jail. The truth is called "TREASON" and no one cares. The truth is put through the ringer, in solitary confinement for months, the truth is tortured until the real TRAITORS feel like it.

Close your eyes and picture the silence inside Bradley Manning's dark solitary cell. He doesn't know there's a handful of people working for him. He doesn't know Twitter hashtags are going crazy with Honey Boo Boo and everyone forgot about him. He sees black, and the truth is forgotten about for cheap thrills and $1.50 beer specials.

This is NOT about Bradley Manning or Edward Snowden. This is about THE TRUTH. The truth is under fire, and it is not strong enough to fight anymore. It's being choked out by the greed of a few. I think it was Terence McKenna who said "If any institution can be destroyed with truth, than that institution DESERVES to be destroyed by truth. Whatever is left is what we need. The truth doesn't need your cooperation to exist, all else does."

We're at the end of the rope. It's sink or swim, and to be completely candid here, the US of A has shown we're not very good swimmers. Lets fight before it's too late.

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but is it really?


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OP, your howl in the night very much resonates with me. My favorite aunt (recently departed - Im glad she's not watching this shit show anymore) used to say some of us are definitely wired differently. We used to look at those sucked into "whats in it for me", win-lose, scarcity thinking and just ask, "Why?" Now I ask mostly on my own. Why has win-win become such a foreign concept in the land where Franklin invented the Chamber of Commerce to grow business for all Philly printers rather than cutthroat compete with each other. It seems that was not only another time, but another planet.

I do hope that McKenna's logic can win the day, but like you I am demoralized.

Let me share my truth with you OP. As a lesbian, I would ask you to not so cavilierly lump gay people in with "all that is wrong with America". It is a founding concept, albeit flickering in the wind, that our Creator endowed both of us with the right to pursue happiness. In recently marrying the love of my life, I see a dwindling affirmation of that right, and in that pursuit I am certainly not seeking to weaken what our country represents, indeed it is a small glimmer of those dwindling rights as I see it. You can disagree with my pursuit of happiness, as is your right (for now) as an American; indeed, I will stand for your 1st amendment right to express yourself. But given what is an obvious integrity to your person I ask you to ponder if supporting my right even as you disagree with it is not a small truly American, truly radical notion that just might bring you a bit of personal fortitude.
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But you are part of the problem, so shut the fuck up queer and go back into the closet with your filthy habits.


You're right OP, there's not enough people awake to it though, it's going to take something to pull the plug and that means things will get worse, before they get better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12454902


The 97% of us who are getting reamed by the international corporations and the global banks include gays, blacks, people on disability, Hispanics, whites, Christians, atheists, skin-heads, Muslims, liberals, and conservatives. As long as we continue to hate and attack each other, the financiers and the globalists win. They seem to be the only ones who don't give a fuck about any of the social differences. WE are all just sheep to them, and our job is to consume. consume, consume. That's all. Rack up debt, get sick, and end up paying all the money you worked for all your life to the medical/industrial/pharmaceutical/military complex. As long as we allow our clannish behavior to obscure what we have in common, we will never have a chance at beating them.

So, Hater,

stfu
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Newsflash deepshit! Their collapse will come anyway but we're still gonna have to deal with their traitorous shills.
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You have nailed it completely... So said, this is not the country I grew up in... so sad... planned takedown.. It's gonna be VERY VERY UGLY....
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OP, your howl in the night very much resonates with me. My favorite aunt (recently departed - Im glad she's not watching this shit show anymore) used to say some of us are definitely wired differently. We used to look at those sucked into "whats in it for me", win-lose, scarcity thinking and just ask, "Why?" Now I ask mostly on my own. Why has win-win become such a foreign concept in the land where Franklin invented the Chamber of Commerce to grow business for all Philly printers rather than cutthroat compete with each other. It seems that was not only another time, but another planet.

I do hope that McKenna's logic can win the day, but like you I am demoralized.

Let me share my truth with you OP. As a lesbian, I would ask you to not so cavilierly lump gay people in with "all that is wrong with America". It is a founding concept, albeit flickering in the wind, that our Creator endowed both of us with the right to pursue happiness. In recently marrying the love of my life, I see a dwindling affirmation of that right, and in that pursuit I am certainly not seeking to weaken what our country represents, indeed it is a small glimmer of those dwindling rights as I see it. You can disagree with my pursuit of happiness, as is your right (for now) as an American; indeed, I will stand for your 1st amendment right to express yourself. But given what is an obvious integrity to your person I ask you to ponder if supporting my right even as you disagree with it is not a small truly American, truly radical notion that just might bring you a bit of personal fortitude.
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But you are part of the problem, so shut the fuck up queer and go back into the closet with your filthy habits.


You're right OP, there's not enough people awake to it though, it's going to take something to pull the plug and that means things will get worse, before they get better.
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The 97% of us who are getting reamed by the international corporations and the global banks include gays, blacks, people on disability, Hispanics, whites, Christians, atheists, skin-heads, Muslims, liberals, and conservatives. As long as we continue to hate and attack each other, the financiers and the globalists win. They seem to be the only ones who don't give a fuck about any of the social differences. WE are all just sheep to them, and our job is to consume. consume, consume. That's all. Rack up debt, get sick, and end up paying all the money you worked for all your life to the medical/industrial/pharmaceutical/military complex. As long as we allow our clannish behavior to obscure what we have in common, we will never have a chance at beating them.

So, Hater,

stfu
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Newsflash deepshit! Their collapse will come anyway but we're still gonna have to deal with their traitorous shills.
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Move to Australia or Britain, free medical care is great.
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Hello op. I am listening. Listening to you and him. No only I understand your word. But I feel how you do. I can't stand the lies. I really want to change this planet. I'm doing my part as human.
But I know I can do more, I just need everyone's help.
And what I see. Your helping by sharing the truth
Thank you
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You know, I've been doing a lot of thinking about this whole NSA thing recently. See, I have never been in a position where my whistleblowing could ever help anyone. I haven't had anyone tell me "Don't tell anyone, or it'll suck for me" or anything like that. So I give this disclaimer before I even begin, because I have no idea what these guys are going through.

But if I just imagine, for a second, myself being put into the situation of having to either help the common man by "tattle tailing" on my authority figures or keeping my mouth shut, I gotta say I'll probably just look the other way and go on about my day.

I wasn't like this though.

I wasn't a coward, a fucking pussy who would rather watch American Idol and forget about the bad things like every other yellow-blooded American.

I used to be the guy who ran to the front of the line to help, who thought there was an actual "greater good" that one aspires to be like.

Then as I grew up a little, I realized everyone was lying to me to help themselves. It was religion first. I realized by using basic deductive reasoning that these people were lying to me, and I couldn't trust the few people who I looked to for guidance (church).

If that wasn't bad enough, I had to re-learn everything since the lies they told really fucked me up. While re-learning, I realized that other people were lying, and usually for simple reasons like padding their pockets or feeding their families.

I get it, you have a wife and kids to feed, but after a while, come on, whoever it is pulling the strings in your head has to stop and think "Am I being a fucking asshole? Am I making the world better or worse? (Not MY world, THE world?)" and really come to terms with the answers, the truth is the truth.

We are bombarded by lies from all angles, from our local newspaper ads (fine print) to the radio ads (restrictions apply) to our own government (Bengazi, Libya, 911 Commission, do I really need to keep going?).

Whenever I hear ANYTHING anymore that's being touted as "news", I ask myself what agenda it's feeding into. It makes you feel untrustworthy inside, like a bad person, always looking for the angle, always thinking "what's in it for them?".

Now I studied a bunch of KGB Soviet subversion techniques back in my heyday, and this really seems like a targeted campaign of strict demoralization of the American people. From who and by who, I do not know.

What I do know is that the TSA treating people like cattle is subversion (you're nothing, we rule you mentality).

The reality TV shows that highlight horrible trashy people and give them rewards for being pieces of human excrement is demoralizing to us. (why act respectable when the shitheads get everything?)

The "credit" system that is very corruptable (there's companies that sell "trade lines" if you need credit. So essentially the credit score system is a huge scam, I went from 620 to 798 in 2 weeks and got my home loan) If you can PAY you can PLAY.

The leader in our "government" is just a REAAAAALLLY good liar, and he knows it, and we know it, and everyone knows it. Being caught in lies does nothing, it's business as usual. Lies upon lies, fake crying for dead kids is OK, lies about his transcripts, lies about dead people and drone strikes, all lies with no consequences from the one authority figure we look to for support.

The one time the truth comes out, the truth is imprisoned and put in jail. The truth is called "TREASON" and no one cares. The truth is put through the ringer, in solitary confinement for months, the truth is tortured until the real TRAITORS feel like it.

Close your eyes and picture the silence inside Bradley Manning's dark solitary cell. He doesn't know there's a handful of people working for him. He doesn't know Twitter hashtags are going crazy with Honey Boo Boo and everyone forgot about him. He sees black, and the truth is forgotten about for cheap thrills and $1.50 beer specials.

This is NOT about Bradley Manning or Edward Snowden. This is about THE TRUTH. The truth is under fire, and it is not strong enough to fight anymore. It's being choked out by the greed of a few. I think it was Terence McKenna who said "If any institution can be destroyed with truth, than that institution DESERVES to be destroyed by truth. Whatever is left is what we need. The truth doesn't need your cooperation to exist, all else does."

We're at the end of the rope. It's sink or swim, and to be completely candid here, the US of A has shown we're not very good swimmers. Lets fight before it's too late.

:bushhitler:billgatesmexicomahmoud1984




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gonzo2
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you're wasted on here mate.

nobody will listen to you, because a) most of them are stupid, b) they're shills or c) we're just like you. tired of the bullshit, and can see right through the bullshit, and know it's pointless pointing out the bullshit to people who can't/won't listen.

the usa is falling apart, literally, falling apart, and they distract you all from this FACT with pointless TV, pointless surveillance, pointless sports and most importantly, a totally pointless president.

it's all about to collapse around our ears, and no matter how much we shout and scream about it, we can do nothing bar HOPE we make it out the other side, which unfortunately most of us won't.

liked your final paragraph though, and the 'swimmers' analogy. wink
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Trey Gowdy -- when did you find GLP?

OP -- thank you for being the gentle voice of reason.

There are still many who share your sentiments.

"She is small, but she be fierce."

Hollywood IS seeing its downfall....

Do you ever consider that Orwell's 1984 is also coming to pass? Where the sheep are medicated every day and then sit down to watch either tv or play video games?

There is an undercurrent which agrees completely with you.

Who are some of the figures you look up to? Where will the leaders out of this Sodom and Gomorrah come from if they are not religious leaders?
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Don't lie, don't cheat, don't steal, and don't tolerate those who do. The government put those truth tellers in the position they are in. Understand the government is the problem. At this point, it's hard to see anything they do that is good, or correct.
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I feel like howling with you. If you ever post the truth on any other forum then here you will likely get banned or ignored until the topic is at the bottom.

I once got in a rant about Obam's spying and got myself banned a few hours later at a history forum and the replies were mostly sexual immature jokes that had nothing to do with the actual topic.

Is it that people don't know how to debate politely or are they taught to not debate and just confirm to whatever votes are popular?

There is a certain forum I was going to mention but my post got blocked until I removed it. Fuck!
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You know, I've been doing a lot of thinking about this whole NSA thing recently. See, I have never been in a position where my whistleblowing could ever help anyone. I haven't had anyone tell me "Don't tell anyone, or it'll suck for me" or anything like that. So I give this disclaimer before I even begin, because I have no idea what these guys are going through.

But if I just imagine, for a second, myself being put into the situation of having to either help the common man by "tattle tailing" on my authority figures or keeping my mouth shut, I gotta say I'll probably just look the other way and go on about my day.

I wasn't like this though.

I wasn't a coward, a fucking pussy who would rather watch American Idol and forget about the bad things like every other yellow-blooded American.

I used to be the guy who ran to the front of the line to help, who thought there was an actual "greater good" that one aspires to be like.

Then as I grew up a little, I realized everyone was lying to me to help themselves. It was religion first. I realized by using basic deductive reasoning that these people were lying to me, and I couldn't trust the few people who I looked to for guidance (church).

If that wasn't bad enough, I had to re-learn everything since the lies they told really fucked me up. While re-learning, I realized that other people were lying, and usually for simple reasons like padding their pockets or feeding their families.

I get it, you have a wife and kids to feed, but after a while, come on, whoever it is pulling the strings in your head has to stop and think "Am I being a fucking asshole? Am I making the world better or worse? (Not MY world, THE world?)" and really come to terms with the answers, the truth is the truth.

We are bombarded by lies from all angles, from our local newspaper ads (fine print) to the radio ads (restrictions apply) to our own government (Bengazi, Libya, 911 Commission, do I really need to keep going?).

Whenever I hear ANYTHING anymore that's being touted as "news", I ask myself what agenda it's feeding into. It makes you feel untrustworthy inside, like a bad person, always looking for the angle, always thinking "what's in it for them?".

Now I studied a bunch of KGB Soviet subversion techniques back in my heyday, and this really seems like a targeted campaign of strict demoralization of the American people. From who and by who, I do not know.

What I do know is that the TSA treating people like cattle is subversion (you're nothing, we rule you mentality).

The reality TV shows that highlight horrible trashy people and give them rewards for being pieces of human excrement is demoralizing to us. (why act respectable when the shitheads get everything?)

The "credit" system that is very corruptable (there's companies that sell "trade lines" if you need credit. So essentially the credit score system is a huge scam, I went from 620 to 798 in 2 weeks and got my home loan) If you can PAY you can PLAY.

The leader in our "government" is just a REAAAAALLLY good liar, and he knows it, and we know it, and everyone knows it. Being caught in lies does nothing, it's business as usual. Lies upon lies, fake crying for dead kids is OK, lies about his transcripts, lies about dead people and drone strikes, all lies with no consequences from the one authority figure we look to for support.

The one time the truth comes out, the truth is imprisoned and put in jail. The truth is called "TREASON" and no one cares. The truth is put through the ringer, in solitary confinement for months, the truth is tortured until the real TRAITORS feel like it.

Close your eyes and picture the silence inside Bradley Manning's dark solitary cell. He doesn't know there's a handful of people working for him. He doesn't know Twitter hashtags are going crazy with Honey Boo Boo and everyone forgot about him. He sees black, and the truth is forgotten about for cheap thrills and $1.50 beer specials.

This is NOT about Bradley Manning or Edward Snowden. This is about THE TRUTH. The truth is under fire, and it is not strong enough to fight anymore. It's being choked out by the greed of a few. I think it was Terence McKenna who said "If any institution can be destroyed with truth, than that institution DESERVES to be destroyed by truth. Whatever is left is what we need. The truth doesn't need your cooperation to exist, all else does."

We're at the end of the rope. It's sink or swim, and to be completely candid here, the US of A has shown we're not very good swimmers. Lets fight before it's too late.

:bushhitler:billgatesmexicomahmoud1984




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gonzo2
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And I assume the religion was Catholicism?

I also assume you are brave enuf to admit that Joe McCarthy was right?
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Here is more examples of what the OP is saying. [link to www.freedomsphoenix.com]

Homeland Security wants permits to play music in a business even though the DHS is not the law.
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I feel like howling with you. If you ever post the truth on any other forum then here you will likely get banned or ignored until the topic is at the bottom.

I once got in a rant about Obam's spying and got myself banned a few hours later at a history forum and the replies were mostly sexual immature jokes that had nothing to do with the actual topic.

Is it that people don't know how to debate politely or are they taught to not debate and just confirm to whatever votes are popular?

There is a certain forum I was going to mention but my post got blocked until I removed it. Fuck!
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I'm a so-called "radical conservative" and was banned for life from a Conservative website for saying my bosses gluttonous lifestyle as a spoiled rotten unsympathetic millionaire was the kind of thing that led to the French Revolution. Yep, they thought I was a troll for expressing my views. And I was on THEIR side - but oh God, don't criticize croney capitalism or point out the downfalls of democracy. If you can't critique yourself, you can never improve.

Another "patriot" type website kicked me off because they continued to make lewd, and I mean really lewd, comments about Obama - like a bunch of drunk kids at a Frat party - instead of discussing the issues. I told them that and I no longer could play in the sandbox with the other kids.

Conservative or Progressive - there has to be a way to communicate that isn't just "Fuck you - die asshole" - a society will get nowhere with that. Although at times I've been pushed close to typing it myself.
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I stopped reading the manifesto and gave it one star when he said he figured out that religion and churches were lying to him. He figured that out by his own deductive reasoning. He knows nothing and so his opinion doesn't deserve consideration.





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