TIME Magazine Glamorizes Life Without Children | |
Person445 (OP) User ID: 41756472 Canada 08/05/2013 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Time’s upcoming August 12, 2013 issue depicts a smiling couple lying together on a sandy white beach under the headline “The Childfree Life: When Having It All Means Not Having Children.” Quoting: Person445 The article begins with a story about a woman who decided she never wanted to have children, and further, never regretted that decision, followed by a weighty discussion of how our nation’s birthrate is currently the lowest it has ever been in its history: “From 2007 to 2011, the most recent year for which there’s data, the fertility rate declined 9%. A 2010 Pew Research report showed that childlessness has risen across all racial and ethnic groups, adding up to about 1 in 5 American women who end their childbearing years maternity-free, compared with 1 in 10 in the 1970s.” This ‘Childfree Life’s’ main agenda, as if you couldn’t guess it from the cover, only gets more obvious from there. It discusses the expense of having a child, noting that: “…the sheer economic cost of raising a child—for a child born in 2011, an average of $234,900 until age 18, according to the USDA, and $390,000 if your household earns over $100,000—has made motherhood a formidable prospect for some women.” Con't @ [link to truthstreammedia.com] It doesn't cost an average of 13,000-22,000 a year to raise a child. That is insane. ? I spend about $20,000/year raising mine. Follow me on Twitter: @RussellScott202 |
IDW User ID: 44624540 United States 08/05/2013 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it's personal choice. I chose not to have children, but I have always had a life of volunteering, advocacy work and have spent much time with my nieces and nephews. I have always done for others, nothing selfish about that. I am trying to do things to make this world a better place. How can we judge everyone based on just one outlook? And to be honest, yes..I think about the future and what it will hold for children. What I am advocating for right now is not only for those of us in the present but also for the future of your children and grandchildren. Quoting: H0NEYBEE This does not make me less of a human because I did not procreate. I feel now that maybe I can partially redeem myself if I can only help in some way make the children who are already here have a better life any way I can. I feel partly responsible for allowing the world to get in the state it is, like I failed |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39464638 United States 08/05/2013 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if just 1% of all the crap on GLP were true, then why in the hell would you bring a child into that type of world? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44059275 That's a dumb thing to say. Not really... If someone wants to be a parent thats their choice... HOWEVER, then they need to accept that THEY will be taking care of that kid for the rest of their life!! Not just till said kid is 18, then throw out with the trash.. What do you mean take care of? Isn't that the job of our government? LOL! That is the typical parent response today! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550123 United States 08/05/2013 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The smart, educated, well-bred people have stopped reproducing. Quoting: Hope_Full The not-so-bright Rachel Jeantels of the world are breeding like rabbits. We are *LIVING* "Idiocracy." Scary times indeed. Smart people should be having kids. They would raise smart ones who would trump the idiots of the world. |
Michael User ID: 42982398 United States 08/05/2013 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The smart, educated, well-bred people have stopped reproducing. Quoting: Hope_Full The not-so-bright Rachel Jeantels of the world are breeding like rabbits. We are *LIVING* "Idiocracy." Scary times indeed. unfortunately true Kids are a joy, If I had quadruple the money I have now. I would have over a dozen kids. +100 :) Peace |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39464638 United States 08/05/2013 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Time’s upcoming August 12, 2013 issue depicts a smiling couple lying together on a sandy white beach under the headline “The Childfree Life: When Having It All Means Not Having Children.” Quoting: Person445 The article begins with a story about a woman who decided she never wanted to have children, and further, never regretted that decision, followed by a weighty discussion of how our nation’s birthrate is currently the lowest it has ever been in its history: “From 2007 to 2011, the most recent year for which there’s data, the fertility rate declined 9%. A 2010 Pew Research report showed that childlessness has risen across all racial and ethnic groups, adding up to about 1 in 5 American women who end their childbearing years maternity-free, compared with 1 in 10 in the 1970s.” This ‘Childfree Life’s’ main agenda, as if you couldn’t guess it from the cover, only gets more obvious from there. It discusses the expense of having a child, noting that: “…the sheer economic cost of raising a child—for a child born in 2011, an average of $234,900 until age 18, according to the USDA, and $390,000 if your household earns over $100,000—has made motherhood a formidable prospect for some women.” Con't @ [link to truthstreammedia.com] It doesn't cost an average of 13,000-22,000 a year to raise a child. That is insane. ? I spend about $20,000/year raising mine. and thats not including EVERYTHING! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10401141 United States 08/05/2013 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The smart, educated, well-bred people have stopped reproducing. Quoting: Hope_Full The not-so-bright Rachel Jeantels of the world are breeding like rabbits. We are *LIVING* "Idiocracy." Scary times indeed. It makes perfect sense. By having less children, One or max two, the wealthy are concentrating their wealth for their children. The rich become richer. As such they'll need more useless people at the bottom like Jeantel to polish their shoes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39464638 United States 08/05/2013 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The smart, educated, well-bred people have stopped reproducing. Quoting: Hope_Full The not-so-bright Rachel Jeantels of the world are breeding like rabbits. We are *LIVING* "Idiocracy." Scary times indeed. Smart people should be having kids. They would raise smart ones who would trump the idiots of the world. See thats just it, why would an inteligent person do that? They wouldn't be intelligent anymore would they? |
The Cherished One User ID: 42982398 United States 08/05/2013 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The smart, educated, well-bred people have stopped reproducing. Quoting: Hope_Full The not-so-bright Rachel Jeantels of the world are breeding like rabbits. We are *LIVING* "Idiocracy." Scary times indeed. unfortunately true Kids are a joy, If I had quadruple the money I have now. I would have over a dozen kids. Thread: The Cherished One ...do remember my agreement with everyone when having these little conversations. There is no judgment on my end of things nor any expectations on my part. You are free to believe what you wish. A message of Hope… [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Person445 (OP) User ID: 41756472 Canada 08/05/2013 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Time’s upcoming August 12, 2013 issue depicts a smiling couple lying together on a sandy white beach under the headline “The Childfree Life: When Having It All Means Not Having Children.” Quoting: Person445 The article begins with a story about a woman who decided she never wanted to have children, and further, never regretted that decision, followed by a weighty discussion of how our nation’s birthrate is currently the lowest it has ever been in its history: “From 2007 to 2011, the most recent year for which there’s data, the fertility rate declined 9%. A 2010 Pew Research report showed that childlessness has risen across all racial and ethnic groups, adding up to about 1 in 5 American women who end their childbearing years maternity-free, compared with 1 in 10 in the 1970s.” This ‘Childfree Life’s’ main agenda, as if you couldn’t guess it from the cover, only gets more obvious from there. It discusses the expense of having a child, noting that: “…the sheer economic cost of raising a child—for a child born in 2011, an average of $234,900 until age 18, according to the USDA, and $390,000 if your household earns over $100,000—has made motherhood a formidable prospect for some women.” Con't @ [link to truthstreammedia.com] It doesn't cost an average of 13,000-22,000 a year to raise a child. That is insane. ? I spend about $20,000/year raising mine. and thats not including EVERYTHING! Having said that I do live in Canada's most expensive city, Vancouver: [link to www2.macleans.ca] Follow me on Twitter: @RussellScott202 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44580959 United States 08/05/2013 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if just 1% of all the crap on GLP were true, then why in the hell would you bring a child into that type of world? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44059275 That's a dumb thing to say. Not really... If someone wants to be a parent thats their choice... HOWEVER, then they need to accept that THEY will be taking care of that kid for the rest of their life!! Not just till said kid is 18, then throw out with the trash.. THIS... with the economy the way it is, if you bring a child into this-you better be prepared to take care of it for the rest of its life... There are no jobs out there!!! Our ancient ancestors didn't have jobs. They were just here surviving. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3255682 United States 08/05/2013 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if just 1% of all the crap on GLP were true, then why in the hell would you bring a child into that type of world? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44059275 I guess you're happily kid free then? Tell me something. Are you simply afraid of the world, reactionary to events and problems, Are making a change in the world with impact greater then proliferating your ideas and morality in the world by having kids, or do you use that phrase to cover up the fact your self serving, or is it something else? Make me understand. I've heard this phrase by many people who are choosing to be child free, and it seems to be a catch all phrase, usually without meaning behind it or thought behind it. What's with you assumed superiority here? YOU make others understand why your squirming multiple children make a scene disturbing everyone in a restaurant. Make others understand why it is commonplace to see a pregnant woman pushing a shopping cart with a toddler in the seat, another hanging off the cart and a couple others running amok in aisles. Make others understand when adults go out in nature to enjoy nature and peace and quiet why these clueless families with multiple brats are howling and parents yelling at the kids and making a scene disturbing everyone else and are utterly clueless. Nobody owes you an explanation why they don't have kids - YOU owe the explanation you fucking idiot. |
Person445 (OP) User ID: 41756472 Canada 08/05/2013 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The smart, educated, well-bred people have stopped reproducing. Quoting: Hope_Full The not-so-bright Rachel Jeantels of the world are breeding like rabbits. We are *LIVING* "Idiocracy." Scary times indeed. Smart people should be having kids. They would raise smart ones who would trump the idiots of the world. See thats just it, why would an inteligent person do that? They wouldn't be intelligent anymore would they? SO anyone who has kids isn't intelligent? Follow me on Twitter: @RussellScott202 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39464638 United States 08/05/2013 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The smart, educated, well-bred people have stopped reproducing. Quoting: Hope_Full The not-so-bright Rachel Jeantels of the world are breeding like rabbits. We are *LIVING* "Idiocracy." Scary times indeed. unfortunately true Kids are a joy, If I had quadruple the money I have now. I would have over a dozen kids. now if only you parents would remember this when you have a child that becomes a drug addicted, video game junkie, who refuses to work or move out! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42428299 United States 08/05/2013 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | smart ones are not, then it must also be true that you "smart" people who are living it up and having a good time are in fact leaving the world to be run by STUPID PEOPLE! And the way the world is currently running its obvious the smart people have failed and left the world to be had by stupid people. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36022667 United Kingdom 08/05/2013 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if just 1% of all the crap on GLP were true, then why in the hell would you bring a child into that type of world? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44059275 Because it is God's decision whether a baby is conceived, not ours. and life is life-affirming!!! Get the hell out of my century you superstitious moron. People I know clone people, but yeah they have gods approval so it's fine. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39464638 United States 08/05/2013 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The smart, educated, well-bred people have stopped reproducing. Quoting: Hope_Full The not-so-bright Rachel Jeantels of the world are breeding like rabbits. We are *LIVING* "Idiocracy." Scary times indeed. Smart people should be having kids. They would raise smart ones who would trump the idiots of the world. See thats just it, why would an inteligent person do that? They wouldn't be intelligent anymore would they? SO anyone who has kids isn't intelligent? not all of them, some just make questionable decisions... |
H0NEYBEE User ID: 39160120 United States 08/05/2013 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it's personal choice. I chose not to have children, but I have always had a life of volunteering, advocacy work and have spent much time with my nieces and nephews. I have always done for others, nothing selfish about that. I am trying to do things to make this world a better place. How can we judge everyone based on just one outlook? And to be honest, yes..I think about the future and what it will hold for children. What I am advocating for right now is not only for those of us in the present but also for the future of your children and grandchildren. Quoting: H0NEYBEE This does not make me less of a human because I did not procreate. And, this does not make me lazy...as I saw one person comment about being lazy. There is nothing wrong with making choices. And no, before anyone accuses me...I have never had an abortion. Suicides are at the highest rates ever in America. Military suicides are at the highest rates ever. People are having to work 2 or 3 jobs. And now with Obamacare, a lot of people are only going to be working part time. Last Edited by H0NEYBEE on 08/05/2013 10:48 AM "I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world. We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr. |
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The Cherished One User ID: 42982398 United States 08/05/2013 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Kids are a joy, If I had quadruple the money I have now. I would have over a dozen kids. now if only you parents would remember this when you have a child that becomes a drug addicted, video game junkie, who refuses to work or move out! Actually, I have a few of those..lol would you like to discuss it? Peace Thread: The Cherished One ...do remember my agreement with everyone when having these little conversations. There is no judgment on my end of things nor any expectations on my part. You are free to believe what you wish. A message of Hope… [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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H0NEYBEE User ID: 39160120 United States 08/05/2013 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am human. I am not a trans. But everyone else's opinion makes me less human? Wow.... "I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world. We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr. |
T-Man Entitled title User ID: 29080459 Netherlands 08/05/2013 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if i had a wife-worthy girl (i do know her but were not together...) and more money (wich i would put more energy in if i had that girl to have kids with) id have a whole football team of kids and id give them all the love and advise they could ever need. :( |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40964118 United States 08/05/2013 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: SHINING PROVIDENCE Eekers, true, But I will explain the socio instinctual behavior of the poor. In the face of crises or poverty or lack, humans will instinctly have many kids . Having many kids is actually a insurance of sorts. Every creature that has high mortality rate and lives in a dangerous enviroment will have many babies. Think cats, turtles, fish, etc.. so say you have five or more kids. Chances are one of them will be successful and will be able to help out his parents and siblings . Its a retirement insurance so to speak for the parents. If a family in crushing poverty, chances are too risky that , that child will turn out loser and then the whole genetic line is doomed Theres many rich affluent people who have only had one kid who turned out lazy, lethargic, un ambitious or who has contributed nothing to society. Its just human nature to survive the genetic line at whatever cost it takes, Rich arent panicking, the poor are, If the table are ever turned in another crushing depression, then what? A rich persons lineage will disappear and the others will take over. Our pilgrims and pioneer women had many children in the face of poverty and its what built America. I can totally see what you're saying. I just think it's irresponsible in today's world, especially if the kids don't grow up to be your protectors, but just another burden to society. I also see how one spoiled rich brat could be more of a nuisance than 4 hardworking poor people who are self-sufficient. you know, times like these i really wish I lived in the olden days on a farm sometimes. life would just be healthier and simpler overall. I have a solution for all the Baby daddies that make a baby and run . Offer all males 25 and up, 5,000 dollars prize to undergo vasectomy. Its always reversible of course later on thru surgery. But watch who jumps at that 5,000 dollars, All the men that are done having kids or dont want kids or who simply want the buying splurge and drugs that 5,000 dollars will bring will jump at the chance. I have a vasectomy. It doesnt change you in the least, and it only takes a short visit and you can return back to work same day if its office job, two days if you do lifting. Its great. Im a smart person, my idea would work. We dont promote vasectomies enough. it will weed out men that never cared for Fatherhood in the firstplace. that would be a great solution. my husband has one too. :) I'm perfectly ok with his 2 kids, I have no desire to have any myself. Besides, they're 17 and 19. We're not starting over again! Time to travel! oh btw I was with my husband while he was getting his vasectomy. I held his hand through the procedure :) Its wonderful to have a partnership this way ! Marriage doesnt always have to mean kids. It provides the companionship we all need in our later years. Yes, the vasectomy was a cinch, sure, I was a little nervous at first that Ill feel different but you come out at the end the same person, just shooting blanks. I do get upset when I hear women being suggested to have their uterus or ovaries removed, Ive poured over some research that the Catholics funded after someone I knew was having problems, she went from beautiful to extremely overweight. Female sterilzation can result in heavier bleeding and a host of other problems. the female body is so delicate, it should never be messed with. Vasectomy awareness should be promoted a lot more than it is and be a suggested solution to all the irresponsible baby daddies that get five plus women pregnant. These women should not be seeking out abortion clinics ever, Abortions are sheer butchery upon child and mother many times rending many of them sterile . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39464638 United States 08/05/2013 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Having children or not having children is a personal choice! I laugh hard when people tell me "ohh you should have kids, you would make a great parent and you will regret it later!" First off, how can I possibly regret or miss something I have never had or experienced to begin with?" This is classic brainwashing! Its like caviar, someone once said to me "you need to try caviar, you have no idea what you are missing!" Your right I will never regret never trying caviar because I have never tasted and have no desire to! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44630146 United Kingdom 08/05/2013 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if just 1% of all the crap on GLP were true, then why in the hell would you bring a child into that type of world? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44059275 That's a dumb thing to say. No, it's called not being a jackass and thinking about more than your self. Lol, no you're being a defeatist and it's very unnatural to actually promote eliminating one's own species. There have been so many more times in history that have been worse than this. Yes the 21st century has its problems, but so did Rome and the middle ages. Would it be right to have a child knowing they could grow up into slavery? Well people have been doing it for 1000's of years. It's how we keep going. It's not about being selfish, it's about giving. Smarten up. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44059275 Australia 08/05/2013 10:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If it's true that only stupid people are breeding and the Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42428299 smart ones are not, then it must also be true that you "smart" people who are living it up and having a good time are in fact leaving the world to be run by STUPID PEOPLE! And the way the world is currently running its obvious the smart people have failed and left the world to be had by stupid people. Where did you get your logic you dimwitted fuck? Ever heard of teachers, professors, scientists, etc.? They don't have to produce children themselves in order to help future generations. Good grief! This thread sure has brought out the pro-child religious nuts. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39464638 United States 08/05/2013 10:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hello Quoting: The Cherished One ... Quoting: SHINING PROVIDENCE Kids are a joy, If I had quadruple the money I have now. I would have over a dozen kids. now if only you parents would remember this when you have a child that becomes a drug addicted, video game junkie, who refuses to work or move out! Actually, I have a few of those..lol would you like to discuss it? Peace Yes! I hope you are prepared to take care of these kids for the rest of their life! End of discussion! |