BREAKING - WTF: New Study shows US Debt 6 Times Greater than Officially Declared. Its not $12 Trillion, Its $70 Trillion!! | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1347486 United States 08/06/2013 09:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - WTF: New Study shows US Debt 6 Times Greater than Officially Declared. Its not $12 Trillion, Its $70 Trillion!! 70 trillion sounds a little light. With unfunded liabilities I think we are way over a hundred trillion. Years ago, I heard 112 trillion. With King Barry spending like there is no tomorrow (maybe he knows something we don't), it must be over 120 by now. Quoting: Epic Beard Guy Hear ya, but this was just the 'unreported debt', not to be confused with the off-the-books long term obligations (social security and medicare). Add those in, and the number is closer to what you are talking about, though much greater...somewhere around $230T. Reserve currency or not, when the interest on your debt gets so large that you have to issue more debt (print) to cover it, the value of your currency collapses...whether anyone else is still buying it or not. |
thetrickybigguy User ID: 44679659 United States 08/06/2013 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - WTF: New Study shows US Debt 6 Times Greater than Officially Declared. Its not $12 Trillion, Its $70 Trillion!! As long as the US Dollar is the reserve currency of the world, USA will never default. Only if major countries dump it and switch it to other currencies (including GOLD). and if they try, like iraq, they go in and take the fuck over.... Last Edited by thetrickybigguy on 08/06/2013 09:18 AM Falling down is a part of life, getting back up is living. ~ Life is about choices, you get to make them each and every day of your life. ~ Capitalization is the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse.~ Only in America... do we use the word 'politics' to describe the process so well: 'Poloi' in Greek meaning 'many' and 'tics' meaning 'bloodsucking creatures'.~ “When a government is dependent for money upon the bankers, they and not the government leaders control the nation. This is because the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Financiers are without patriotism and without decency.” If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain. Winston Churchill |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25217332 United States 08/06/2013 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - WTF: New Study shows US Debt 6 Times Greater than Officially Declared. Its not $12 Trillion, Its $70 Trillion!! They could say it 's not 12 but 120 trillion in debt and it would not make any difference. It's all funny money anyway and can never be paid back as there are not enough dollar in circulation so it's not possible. It's just a number they throw out there to psychologically convince you that new taxes to be levied to the people are justified and you won't complain. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24053329 Australia 08/06/2013 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - WTF: New Study shows US Debt 6 Times Greater than Officially Declared. Its not $12 Trillion, Its $70 Trillion!! [quote/]Wrong, the United States has NOT accumulated this debt, the Washington D.C. Corporation has accumulated this debt...it won't be paid, the Corporation is bankrupt, the Federal Reserve Banks are all insolvent...their debt is $702T...they can never pay this debt...what has to happen is the bankruptcy of the US Corporation, the UNITED STATES will return to the Republic, without the federal reserve board, WE THE PEOPLE do not owe this debt, we didn't create it...the FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD created money out of "thin air" with their printing press that is worthless, it's time for CHANGE...this is why Obama and his Administration is in deep trouble...they are OWNED by the Federal Reserve, THEY DESPERATELY NEED A WAR....AND IT ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN FOR THEM....THEY ARE TOAST! Finally, the nation is going back to the Republic with a brand new Washington D.C. representation...i can't wait! the Theives are HISTORY in D.C. it's NOT DOOM, IT'S A HOLIDAY FOR WE THE PEOPLE! WE WON! Though I'm not sure if that is true and that people here will debunk what you said, either way, this made me happy on the inside. :) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 37509518 United States 08/06/2013 10:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - WTF: New Study shows US Debt 6 Times Greater than Officially Declared. Its not $12 Trillion, Its $70 Trillion!! Ok, instead of oweing over 50,000 for ever man woman and child, we owe over $300,000 for every man woman and child, or over 1,200,000 for ever family of four. Houston we have a problem. It was unsustainable before at 50, so 300 is total insanity. Well, look at who runs the country. What did you expect? And I'm not just talking about Barry. We MUST kill the Fed and repudiate any debt they claim to own. |
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Exacerbator User ID: 44052732 United States 08/06/2013 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - WTF: New Study shows US Debt 6 Times Greater than Officially Declared. Its not $12 Trillion, Its $70 Trillion!! this is stupid. this is if the government had to actually cover everyone's bank accout being lost, a FDIC bailout of everyone, which is silly. Insurance companies don't keep enough money to cover every single person making a claim at once. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2555370 United Kingdom 08/06/2013 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - WTF: New Study shows US Debt 6 Times Greater than Officially Declared. Its not $12 Trillion, Its $70 Trillion!! Ok, instead of oweing over 50,000 for ever man woman and child, we owe over $300,000 for every man woman and child, or over 1,200,000 for ever family of four. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37509518 Houston we have a problem. It was unsustainable before at 50, so 300 is total insanity. Well, look at who runs the country. What did you expect? And I'm not just talking about Barry. We MUST kill the Fed and repudiate any debt they claim to own. Wouldnt you have to take my hard earned FED dollars from me and my family to do that? Not practical. Not going to happen. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44372991 United States 08/06/2013 10:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - WTF: New Study shows US Debt 6 Times Greater than Officially Declared. Its not $12 Trillion, Its $70 Trillion!! 70 trillion sounds a little light. With unfunded liabilities I think we are way over a hundred trillion. Years ago, I heard 112 trillion. With King Barry spending like there is no tomorrow (maybe he knows something we don't), it must be over 120 by now. Quoting: Epic Beard Guy he surly knows at certain point something dramatic will happen (or will be fabricated by his alphabet agencies, only at unseen scale) so that all debts will be wiped clean. Spend Spend Spend and not worry about paying back!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44372991 United States 08/06/2013 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - WTF: New Study shows US Debt 6 Times Greater than Officially Declared. Its not $12 Trillion, Its $70 Trillion!! ...they are OWNED by the Federal Reserve, THEY DESPERATELY NEED A WAR....AND IT ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN FOR THEM....THEY ARE TOAST! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43848440 Finally, the nation is going back to the Republic with a brand new Washington D.C. representation...i can't wait! the Theives are HISTORY in D.C. it's NOT DOOM, IT'S A HOLIDAY FOR WE THE PEOPLE! WE WON! Wow is that the script of a sci-fi movie, time set in 2150? Coz I know in reality the fat and lazy sheep are just thankful that Barry has been able to protect them (from himself of course) |
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Saint Silver User ID: 43911432 United States 08/06/2013 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - WTF: New Study shows US Debt 6 Times Greater than Officially Declared. Its not $12 Trillion, Its $70 Trillion!! The United States has accumulated over $70 trillion in unreported debt, an amount nearly six times the declared figure, according to a new study by University of California-San Diego economics Professor James Hamilton. Quoting: DoorBert The unique aspect of Hamilton’s study is that he examines federal debt that has not been publicly released, specifically the federal government’s support for “housing, other loan guarantees, deposit insurance, actions taken by the Federal Reserve, and government trust funds.” Since the global economy hit rock bottom in 2008, US federal debt has gone through the roof, increasing from $5 trillion to an estimated $12 trillion in 2013. Meeting the interest payments alone on that debt burden presents a formidable challenge to future US taxpayers: In addition to the debt, Americans must pay back around $220 billion annually just in interest. [link to rt.com] lol... where have you been? it was 12 tril when Obama took over. it's been around 60-70 tril for the past year or 2. Obama was supposed to reduce the debt. He's actually made it to 70 trillion, yet he still won another election? STUPID FUCKIN IGNORANT VOTERS!!!! the reality tho... our dollar isn't going to be the top currency eventually. once it drops, and China's dollar goes higher, technically we wont owe them as much. but regardless, it'll never be paid off. For example, we wasted over 150 million dollars on a US building in Afghanistan that we aren't even using. Now it's either going to be demolished, or given to the Afghanistan military. BUT!!!! If it is given to them, we will have to spend about another 50 million gutting it out and cleaning all of our US technology & such out of it! HAHAHA catching on yet? lol... Even one of the top generals of our US Army told the government to stop building it and that it was a huge waste of military funds. Saint Silver |
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7.83Hz User ID: 15960751 Australia 08/06/2013 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - WTF: New Study shows US Debt 6 Times Greater than Officially Declared. Its not $12 Trillion, Its $70 Trillion!! Take away the gold standard, bring in paper/plastic money... Print, collect all the valuables with that, collapse the dollar and you are left with the treasure. Anything in life worth doing is worth overdoing. Moderation's for cowards. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44692248 United States 08/06/2013 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - WTF: New Study shows US Debt 6 Times Greater than Officially Declared. Its not $12 Trillion, Its $70 Trillion!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44030829 United States 08/06/2013 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - WTF: New Study shows US Debt 6 Times Greater than Officially Declared. Its not $12 Trillion, Its $70 Trillion!! Ever since you posted the white trash video and I realized you're a white trash extremist, I realized your posts are just as idiotic. It's amazing how perception changes everything |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44030829 United States 08/06/2013 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - WTF: New Study shows US Debt 6 Times Greater than Officially Declared. Its not $12 Trillion, Its $70 Trillion!! PS This is already included in CBO reports. This isn't news. This just includes unfunded liabilities with funded liabilities. Future debt versus current debt. Our debt is only $12 trillion, but we expect it to be $70 trillion before it peaks. |
Lester User ID: 44693269 United States 08/06/2013 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - WTF: New Study shows US Debt 6 Times Greater than Officially Declared. Its not $12 Trillion, Its $70 Trillion!! Search my old posts for the 2009 WSJ article by Laurence Kotlikoff, Prof of Economics at Boston University where he calculated then that the Federal debt & unfunded obligations totaled $209 Trillion... $209 Trillion, five years ago... Before all the shit got cranking with the undisguised LOOTING of the American Treasury. Article might have even been done in 2008... Rest assured it is more than $300 Trillion by now. To the guy(s) who post with comment of "What We Owe"... You are mistaken. America has been LOOTED and Betrayed. The Looting is result of FRAUD. We are not liable for anything done by FRAUD. Only defense against Fraud is to prosecute it once discovered. Look for a false-flag soon to cover Looter Audit Trails. |
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Saint Silver User ID: 43911432 United States 08/06/2013 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - WTF: New Study shows US Debt 6 Times Greater than Officially Declared. Its not $12 Trillion, Its $70 Trillion!! OMG !!!! 12,70,100,600000, 100000000000000000 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39262293 It's ALL JUST FUCKING NUMBERS!! I STOPPED CARING ALONG TIME AGO WHO THE FUCK CARES????? lol you obviously cared enough to click on the thread, read all the posts, and created your own reply! and in all actuality... people dont care about other people that dont care. the reasons people post these threads is because they care (or because some ppl are just morons and like to start stupid threads). but seriously man... no need to be rude. if ya dont care, move on. and you really should care. if you don't care where your country is headed, you should just pack up and GTFO! :D i sure as hell don't need you standing behind me if and when shit hits the fan. but i will need people like you in front of me! :D Saint Silver |