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Stupid Dupes And Agents Always Say."If You Have Nothing To Hide Why Do You Care..."

 
Anonymous Coward
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08/07/2013 03:49 AM
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Stupid Dupes And Agents Always Say."If You Have Nothing To Hide Why Do You Care..."
I fucking hate those assholes. The majority are paid shills calling into C-SPAN and any call in show they ca get on to massage everyone to accepting losing freedom. I say HELL NO!

Whether I have something to hide or not is not the point. The point is that absolute power corrupts absolutely, anyone you give absolute spying power to is going to abuse it because everyone is human.

Humans covet, they covet each others lovers,money,success etc.

Humans are jealous and seek retribution for even IMAGINED slights.

Humans can be bought.

Humans are prone to insane and irrational behavior.

Humans should not have absolute spying powers without suspicion of a crime being committed.
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08/07/2013 04:36 AM

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AMEN!
I'm a Libertarian Constitutionalist.

I don't give a shit what you do with your own life, whether you make it a success or a failure, that is an outcome of the choices you make, but please take responsibility for yourself and don't make ME pay for YOUR choices and we're all good.

Repeal the 17th Amendment and the Apportionment Act of 1911!

Thread: First steps down the road to a return to the Constitutional Republic that we were intended to be.

Restore the Republic.

It's a flower, not something to be feared.

cow - Moo!
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08/07/2013 04:55 AM
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That statement is one of the defining characteristics of the mindless sheeple.
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08/07/2013 05:01 AM
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Re: Stupid Dupes And Agents Always Say."If You Have Nothing To Hide Why Do You Care..."
Then I say...what's good for the goose is good for the gander. It is obvious they are the ones hiding, isn't it?
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08/07/2013 05:14 AM
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Next one I hear say that I will say, well, if you have nothing to hide, walk around naked.
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08/07/2013 05:41 AM
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Next one I hear say that I will say, well, if you have nothing to hide, walk around naked.
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Was just thinking this
Are the perverts that are watching us, watching us change clothes, take a shower, having sex, going to the toilet?
I have nothing to hide but I do t need perverts watching these
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08/07/2013 06:13 AM
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Re: Stupid Dupes And Agents Always Say."If You Have Nothing To Hide Why Do You Care..."
That is even weaker than the usual "If you've done nothing wrong, you've got nothing to hide" bollocks they force feed on the population.

The "If you have nothing to hide..." argument is easily dubunked. I'm hiding a lot of perfectly legal things from people like my credit card number (I am, in fact, encouraged to keep it secret), intimate acts with my wife, my political orientation, my medical history and so on. That's none of my friends', neighbours' or colleagues' business and, unless they have a damn good reason, the government and law-enforcement should stay away from it, too. A simple fishing expedition doesn't cut it. In a sane world I shouldn't have to tell anyone why I expect privacy, but the world has gone insane.

Now, the "If you have done nothing wrong..." argument is a bit more tricky to resist. Most people agree that crime should be punished and they are easily persuaded to give up their rights to help in the pursuit of criminals.

Wide nets like this are, however, dangerous. Let's say, for instance, that the government wants to use the national fingerprint database (here everyone will have to get printed if they want the new biometric passport) routinely to identify prints found at a crime scene. At first it sounds fine and dandy, but what if your print is there by an accident? Someone got shot in a cafeteria and your print is found somewhere near that table. You're an instant suspect. Now YOU need to provide an alibi proving that you weren't there at the time of the murder. It shifts the burden of proof from the prosecutor to you, the defendant. What if you had a coffee and went home alone for a sleep? No alibi, big trouble.

When our national fingerprint database for passports was created, everybody assured that it will not be used in criminal cases. Now, however, there are people who want to backpedal on that promise and their argument is the usual "If you've done nothing wrong, you've got nothing to fear". Wrong. I've got plenty to fear if I can become a suspect simply because of a fingerprint or, in the future, DNA trace found in routine national database search. The cops are lazy and as soon as they've got someone pinned down, they'll settle on that suspect (not to complicate the case).
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08/07/2013 06:22 AM
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Re: Stupid Dupes And Agents Always Say."If You Have Nothing To Hide Why Do You Care..."
Michael Hastings had nothing to hide. Didn't save his ass though, did it?

Reporters can no longer hide their sources either.

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