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Sandy Hook...SHHH....it IS STEPFORD, CT!

 
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The event could be pulled off with very few people knowing about exactly what went down. That small group is already probably about 2 or 3 projects down the road as part of a covert series of operations for some kind of "mass effect" that is not understood by your average Joe (think MK Ultra, Iran-Contra, CIA Coke smuggling in South Central LA in the '80's, LSD experiments on Army, Electric-Kool Aid Acid Test, many others, all PsyOps). The rest of us are left with the the ugliness, hate, and misery they created. Surely, they believe they're doing the right thing. They're pedigreed, you and me are not.

Do you think most American servicemen know the specific geopolitical objective of any American war since Vietnam? Of course not. If they knew, they would say it's un-American and illegal. You can be part of something intensely and not have a clue -- all you need to know is your specific job, nothing else. Combine hyper-emotional media hype with "doing your job" and you have the first-responder mantra from Sandy Hook, with the truth being completely circumnavigated and all the most important stuff falling in between simply ignored. Pure manipulation. No burden of proof required. PsyOps at its Huxleyian best. As far as a sham is concerned, could this be pulled of with just a small group in the know? Absolutely.
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The event could be pulled off with very few people knowing about exactly what went down. That small group is already probably about 2 or 3 projects down the road as part of a covert series of operations for some kind of "mass effect" that is not understood by your average Joe (think MK Ultra, Iran-Contra, CIA Coke smuggling in South Central LA in the '80's, LSD experiments on Army, Electric-Kool Aid Acid Test, many others, all PsyOps). The rest of us are left with the the ugliness, hate, and misery they created. Surely, they believe they're doing the right thing. They're pedigreed, you and me are not.

Do you think most American servicemen know the specific geopolitical objective of any American war since Vietnam? Of course not. If they knew, they would say it's un-American and illegal. You can be part of something intensely and not have a clue -- all you need to know is your specific job, nothing else. Combine hyper-emotional media hype with "doing your job" and you have the first-responder mantra from Sandy Hook, with the truth being completely circumnavigated and all the most important stuff falling in between simply ignored. Pure manipulation. No burden of proof required. PsyOps at its Huxleyian best. As far as a sham is concerned, could this be pulled of with just a small group in the know? Absolutely.
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I guess the first question for me, in the flowchart of events, is "did 20 children die?"

I've though for some time that it's possible the adults were killed but the children kidnapped. The combined worth of the 20 families in question is staggering. Of course it is Connecticut, and that alone may not be notable; but it would be notable enough for a wannabe kidnapper.

The location of the school makes witnesses scant. The opportunity to both kill, or stage a killing, is elevated.

Forcing the school into lockdown by keying the mic right away, then shouting threats at the secretary and firing a few scare shots, instantly seals almost all potential witnesses away behind closed doors in a few seconds' time.

What people fail to understand, when thinking of witnesses not speaking out about any contradiction to the official story, is that most witnesses really have no idea what the big picture of this event is. Each witness can easily be talked into keeping quiet for the good of the community about the one little scrap of information he or she might have; police tell them it's for the common good to do so, and what citizen is going to buck that, really? Especially with the immediate "Newtown against the world" atmosphere being cultivated (just look at Mergim's piece in the Bee).

It's very much like a cult--you feel a bond, and aren't inclined to break it. And again, any give witness probably only has a few microseconds worth of real information, and does not know how it fits into the whole.
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The event could be pulled off with very few people knowing about exactly what went down. That small group is already probably about 2 or 3 projects down the road as part of a covert series of operations for some kind of "mass effect" that is not understood by your average Joe (think MK Ultra, Iran-Contra, CIA Coke smuggling in South Central LA in the '80's, LSD experiments on Army, Electric-Kool Aid Acid Test, many others, all PsyOps). The rest of us are left with the the ugliness, hate, and misery they created. Surely, they believe they're doing the right thing. They're pedigreed, you and me are not.

Do you think most American servicemen know the specific geopolitical objective of any American war since Vietnam? Of course not. If they knew, they would say it's un-American and illegal. You can be part of something intensely and not have a clue -- all you need to know is your specific job, nothing else. Combine hyper-emotional media hype with "doing your job" and you have the first-responder mantra from Sandy Hook, with the truth being completely circumnavigated and all the most important stuff falling in between simply ignored. Pure manipulation. No burden of proof required. PsyOps at its Huxleyian best. As far as a sham is concerned, could this be pulled of with just a small group in the know? Absolutely.
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I guess the first question for me, in the flowchart of events, is "did 20 children die?"

I've though for some time that it's possible the adults were killed but the children kidnapped. The combined worth of the 20 families in question is staggering. Of course it is Connecticut, and that alone may not be notable; but it would be notable enough for a wannabe kidnapper.

The location of the school makes witnesses scant. The opportunity to both kill, or stage a killing, is elevated.

Forcing the school into lockdown by keying the mic right away, then shouting threats at the secretary and firing a few scare shots, instantly seals almost all potential witnesses away behind closed doors in a few seconds' time.

What people fail to understand, when thinking of witnesses not speaking out about any contradiction to the official story, is that most witnesses really have no idea what the big picture of this event is. Each witness can easily be talked into keeping quiet for the good of the community about the one little scrap of information he or she might have; police tell them it's for the common good to do so, and what citizen is going to buck that, really? Especially with the immediate "Newtown against the world" atmosphere being cultivated (just look at Mergim's piece in the Bee).

It's very much like a cult--you feel a bond, and aren't inclined to break it. And again, any give witness probably only has a few microseconds worth of real information, and does not know how it fits into the whole.
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Lack of evidence points to drill.

They have provided nothing but material items that may or may not have had some sort of attachment. But they have provided nothing, not one shred of evidence that puts a person named Adam at that school ever.

If this was the trial of Adam he would walk. They have nothing on him. They don't even have his ID!
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The event could be pulled off with very few people knowing about exactly what went down. That small group is already probably about 2 or 3 projects down the road as part of a covert series of operations for some kind of "mass effect" that is not understood by your average Joe (think MK Ultra, Iran-Contra, CIA Coke smuggling in South Central LA in the '80's, LSD experiments on Army, Electric-Kool Aid Acid Test, many others, all PsyOps). The rest of us are left with the the ugliness, hate, and misery they created. Surely, they believe they're doing the right thing. They're pedigreed, you and me are not.

Do you think most American servicemen know the specific geopolitical objective of any American war since Vietnam? Of course not. If they knew, they would say it's un-American and illegal. You can be part of something intensely and not have a clue -- all you need to know is your specific job, nothing else. Combine hyper-emotional media hype with "doing your job" and you have the first-responder mantra from Sandy Hook, with the truth being completely circumnavigated and all the most important stuff falling in between simply ignored. Pure manipulation. No burden of proof required. PsyOps at its Huxleyian best. As far as a sham is concerned, could this be pulled of with just a small group in the know? Absolutely.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47382342


I guess the first question for me, in the flowchart of events, is "did 20 children die?"

I've though for some time that it's possible the adults were killed but the children kidnapped. The combined worth of the 20 families in question is staggering. Of course it is Connecticut, and that alone may not be notable; but it would be notable enough for a wannabe kidnapper.

The location of the school makes witnesses scant. The opportunity to both kill, or stage a killing, is elevated.

Forcing the school into lockdown by keying the mic right away, then shouting threats at the secretary and firing a few scare shots, instantly seals almost all potential witnesses away behind closed doors in a few seconds' time.

What people fail to understand, when thinking of witnesses not speaking out about any contradiction to the official story, is that most witnesses really have no idea what the big picture of this event is. Each witness can easily be talked into keeping quiet for the good of the community about the one little scrap of information he or she might have; police tell them it's for the common good to do so, and what citizen is going to buck that, really? Especially with the immediate "Newtown against the world" atmosphere being cultivated (just look at Mergim's piece in the Bee).

It's very much like a cult--you feel a bond, and aren't inclined to break it. And again, any give witness probably only has a few microseconds worth of real information, and does not know how it fits into the whole.
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It only takes a few to be "in on it". The rest of the uninformed participants have been required to sign off on non-circumvent non-disclosures all in the name of national security - and it's on a need to know basis. That simple.
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BLABLABLABLABLA BLUB

you guys still didnt figure it out?
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Conspiracy is fun stuff to chat about. A simple story of a troubled murderer is boring.
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I can't keep explaining the same shit over and over to new Anonymous Cowards day after day. I quit this thread.
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pump2
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BLABLABLABLABLA BLUB

you guys still didnt figure it out?
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We've figured a lot out.

Only yesterday we realized that Vance's speech to reporters contains overlooked information about what went down that day - he claims he had to interview "former students" to even find Lanza's house (whatever the hell that means).

He also said the shooter had "co-workers."

Thread: Why did Vance say he interviewed the Sandy Hook shooter's "co-workers," and "former students?"
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This is kind of horrifying, but food for thought - lifelike mannequins used in EMS/LE training:

[link to 2.bp.blogspot.com]
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Great post! This sums it up.

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The event could be pulled off with very few people knowing about exactly what went down. That small group is already probably about 2 or 3 projects down the road as part of a covert series of operations for some kind of \"mass effect\" that is not understood by your average Joe (think MK Ultra, Iran-Contra, CIA Coke smuggling in South Central LA in the \'80\'s, LSD experiments on Army, Electric-Kool Aid Acid Test, many others, all PsyOps). The rest of us are left with the the ugliness, hate, and misery they created. Surely, they believe they\'re doing the right thing. They\'re pedigreed, you and me are not.

Do you think most American servicemen know the specific geopolitical objective of any American war since Vietnam? Of course not. If they knew, they would say it\'s un-American and illegal. You can be part of something intensely and not have a clue -- all you need to know is your specific job, nothing else. Combine hyper-emotional media hype with \"doing your job\" and you have the first-responder mantra from Sandy Hook, with the truth being completely circumnavigated and all the most important stuff falling in between simply ignored. Pure manipulation. No burden of proof required. PsyOps at its Huxleyian best. As far as a sham is concerned, could this be pulled of with just a small group in the know? Absolutely.
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BLABLABLABLABLA BLUB

you guys still didnt figure it out?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48342911


We've figured a lot out.

Only yesterday we realized that Vance's speech to reporters contains overlooked information about what went down that day - he claims he had to interview "former students" to even find Lanza's house (whatever the hell that means).

He also said the shooter had "co-workers."

Thread: Why did Vance say he interviewed the Sandy Hook shooter's "co-workers," and "former students?"
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Actually I think Vance was reverting back to his drill checklist saying all that could possibly be interviewed...like a checklist.

All of his press conferences were so static. This man just witnessed something so horrific but he checks off what happened like completing an assignment. Careful not to say too much but also says many things that do not matter to make sure he covers the checklist.

He constantly reminds people not to bother the families and respect their privacy but there is no emotion behind it. If he saw something tragic you would not know it.

He even injects humor about helicopters fighting for airspace.

It was a drill
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BLABLABLABLABLA BLUB

you guys still didnt figure it out?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48342911


We've figured a lot out.

Only yesterday we realized that Vance's speech to reporters contains overlooked information about what went down that day - he claims he had to interview "former students" to even find Lanza's house (whatever the hell that means).

He also said the shooter had "co-workers."

Thread: Why did Vance say he interviewed the Sandy Hook shooter's "co-workers," and "former students?"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48345511


Actually I think Vance was reverting back to his drill checklist saying all that could possibly be interviewed...like a checklist.

All of his press conferences were so static. This man just witnessed something so horrific but he checks off what happened like completing an assignment. Careful not to say too much but also says many things that do not matter to make sure he covers the checklist.

He constantly reminds people not to bother the families and respect their privacy but there is no emotion behind it. If he saw something tragic you would not know it.

He even injects humor about helicopters fighting for airspace.

It was a drill
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Even if he's speaking in generalities, "former students" is a direct reference to something.

And his implication is that people had to be interviewed in order to even find the secondary crime scene--which is ridiculous if in fact the car with guns in it was Nancy's.
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So his statement made two large errors:

1. It gave away that there was something going on that had to do with high school students

2. It gave away that the vehicle in question was NOT registered to any Nancy Lanza
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So his statement made two large errors:

1. It gave away that there was something going on that had to do with high school students

2. It gave away that the vehicle in question was NOT registered to any Nancy Lanza
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Well, I should say it had to do with former students of something. But he couldn't have meant the elementary school, obviously.

This remains a weird reference to something never again mentioned.
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SH NOT REAL!!!!

100% PROOF OF MEDIA FAKERY!!

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I REPEAT!!

NOT REAL!!!!
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I still want to know what Carver meant when he said he hoped \"this all doesn\'t come crashing down on the heads of the people of Sandy Hook,\"--or similar words to that effect.

Some group of patriots should kidnap this dude and have their sodium pentathol handy when they do.
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[link to newtownbee.com]


they want to sprint to the finish line...
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OKC Murrah Building, 911 Ground Zero, and now Sandy Hoax....They sure seem to always be in a hurry to destroy all the evidence, don\'t they?
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This is surreal. No one here believes what the U.S. press has been saying.

Never give up your weapons, Americas. We don't want to have to take you all in and give you asylum.
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I still want to know what Carver meant when he said he hoped \"this all doesn\'t come crashing down on the heads of the people of Sandy Hook,\"--or similar words to that effect.

Some group of patriots should kidnap this dude and have their sodium pentathol handy when they do.
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Dr. Carver eats sodium pentathol for breakfast.



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I still want to know what Carver meant when he said he hoped \"this all doesn\'t come crashing down on the heads of the people of Sandy Hook,\"--or similar words to that effect.

Some group of patriots should kidnap this dude and have their sodium pentathol handy when they do.
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Dr. Carver eats sodium pentathol for breakfast.




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We can help with stronger things. Just ask us.
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This is surreal. No one here believes what the U.S. press has been saying.

Never give up your weapons, Americas. We don't want to have to take you all in and give you asylum.
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Fred? Is it you?? I miss dear ol' Fred :)
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Anyone know if the nurse is still working there?
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I see this thread is dead again without me on it. 11 posts in three days...impressive!

Here's a little chum for the water. Gladys teaches the DARE program in the District. As in "DARE to keep kids off drugs"

[link to www.newstimes.com]
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Maybe people are waiting for news.

You are not news to anybody but yourself.
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Just what I said. Soto's class was shot first, then Rousseau's. Had to be this way for Barbara Sibley's version to fit.

Info from the Newtown locals was correct

"When Lanza stopped firing because his gun jammed, student Jesse Lewis yelled for kids to run. Lewis was shot to death. Six of the children ran past Lanza to safety."

This is almost exactly word for word what two Newtown Moms told me last March.

The info PlasMan and I posted, although unconfirmed was good. Unfortunately some people, "didn't get it." Go back and read this thread.

See [link to www.courant.com]

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The FBI is assisting the state police on tracking Lanza's movements using sophisticated sound technology. Sources said the secretary in the main office did not hang up the phone after calling 911 and federal authorities are trying to use the sounds recorded through that open landline to help chart Lanza's movements in hopes of better understanding his actions.

As I posted previously, one or more 9-1-1 calls contained ballistic data. That was the problem with the state not wanting to release the 911 calls to the AP under FOIA.
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Just what I said. Soto's class was shot first, then Rousseau's. Had to be this way for Barbara Sibley's version to fit.

Info from the Newtown locals was correct

"When Lanza stopped firing because his gun jammed, student Jesse Lewis yelled for kids to run. Lewis was shot to death. Six of the children ran past Lanza to safety."

This is almost exactly word for word what two Newtown Moms told me last March.

The info PlasMan and I posted, although unconfirmed was good. Unfortunately some people, "didn't get it." Go back and read this thread.

See [link to www.courant.com]
 Quoting: SOX


I just read the Courant article, which states that:
"State police trying to determine Lanza's path through the school initially believed that he entered Rousseau's room first and then backtracked to teacher Victoria Soto's first-grade classroom. But some of the surviving children from Soto's class told investigators they didn't hear gunshots until Lanza came in their room, casting doubt on the original theory."

If investigators' reason for changing that original idea of Lanza's path is based on Soto students not hearing gunshots until Lanza entered their room ... then why not also figure that Lanza went into Soto's room before shooting Hochsprung and Sherlach? The article )based on LE sources) mentions 19 shots and broken glass windows taking place before gunman entered any classroom. Did Soto students not hear those gunshots (not much farther away than Rousseau's room)??

That's not the only point of fact that is questionable/laughable from article/investigative source. Apparently the main office was used as a "command center" in hours following the shooting yet somehow the nurse and secretary were hiding in a closet within that office for hours before coming out (or being noticed)! And a master key that the "janitor" used to lock classrooms that day supposedly "was so worn from use that morning" (after being used to unlock/clear rooms post-shooting) that "it snapped in one of the doors."!!
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Just what I said. Soto's class was shot first, then Rousseau's. Had to be this way for Barbara Sibley's version to fit.

Info from the Newtown locals was correct

"When Lanza stopped firing because his gun jammed, student Jesse Lewis yelled for kids to run. Lewis was shot to death. Six of the children ran past Lanza to safety."

This is almost exactly word for word what two Newtown Moms told me last March.

The info PlasMan and I posted, although unconfirmed was good. Unfortunately some people, "didn't get it." Go back and read this thread.

See [link to www.courant.com]
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But more than six kids ran to safety.
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Just what I said. Soto's class was shot first, then Rousseau's. Had to be this way for Barbara Sibley's version to fit.

Info from the Newtown locals was correct

"When Lanza stopped firing because his gun jammed, student Jesse Lewis yelled for kids to run. Lewis was shot to death. Six of the children ran past Lanza to safety."

This is almost exactly word for word what two Newtown Moms told me last March.

The info PlasMan and I posted, although unconfirmed was good. Unfortunately some people, "didn't get it." Go back and read this thread.

See [link to www.courant.com]
 Quoting: SOX


But more than six kids ran to safety.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48314699


There were nine, not six. It is correct, Jesse Lewis was the one who yelled "run",and was immediately shot.

Soto would have had to hear .223 fired at entrance or in hallway at principal.

Appears the Courant's source is not correct on certain details.

Two shots were fired from pistol. I alway assumed both shots were in the same room as shooter shot himself. Apparently not the case.

This was not an accidental leak. There was a purpose for it.