Sandy Hook...SHHH....it IS STEPFORD, CT!

The Engel family reported Olivia being alive when police got there. Olivia was not taken to a hospital, but perished in the arms of a police officer.

Ana Marquez-Greene was taken to hospital, allegedly with a pulse. Hicks' photo is consistent with this.

A boy was taken to the hospital, but died.

It's only three children, so I realize that between uncertainty as to when the children actually passed away, all of the above are possible to fit to the official story--kind of. Except where the police said only two children were alive when they got there--that is not true. A boy was taken to A3.

I'll try to post that again, later, with links.

Why did Chapman carry the girl out when EMS was on site and could have come in to help?

Considering her wounds any excessive movement would be his fault. If the injury you are describing is the case then he was negligent for moving her.

Is the girls family okay with what happened? Did they question why he carried her to an ambulance instead of bringing in medics to help her?

At any rate, I think we should move this part away from the "Stepford" thread - it looks too disrespectful.

I still think it could be a drill gone live, a coverup, all of the above. But we have to get through the details either way in order to bring the truth to the millions of parents who are counting on an honest report--and an honest report is not what they'll get from Sedensky.

Closet ?

*Puts on shill hat. . .

. "Water Closet "

It was reported in some media as a closet. Some people were theorizing that the only explanation (and it is a shaky one) is that in British papers, sometimes bathrooms are called WC, water closet.

Roig's story is shaky even without the closet part.

And this word "ashen" . . .really ? Nice lexicon . .

I still want to know how the person here who named the Manfredonia child knew that child was in Roig's class.

I saw the picture from the Bee, with her name, but how do you connect it to the class?

It does make immediate sense, however.

Asked and answered numerous times. She knows nothing about it. Not names or an event. You keep asking this and I keep answering, there's no story there.

Room 100
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loo.
Loo .
bathroom.
water closet.
Water Loo.
Steve Speros.
LOL
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Room 101
Orwell 1984

Last we'd talked about it, you'd said you would ask her.

Also, your wife worked with Georgeann Manfredonia last year - so how can she/you be unaware of the Manfredonias??

There's absolutely a story here. Four days after the Sandy Hook shootings, and two days after the St. Rose shooting threat against a specific person who continued to be a target of "what happened at this location two days ago," a third shooting threat resulted in two teachers/staff taken to hospital. That is significant.

For all we know, whoever was at St. Rose noon mass 12/16, and received a specific threat, was found and harmed two days later. A teacher or staff member at Head O' Meadow.

I can't check all 37 pages to see if anyone has linked this yet.. But Wow!
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It is Sandy Hook Hair Company's profile pic

Oh.
Well you're the only one seems to be thinking about it.

Yeah, I don't think so.
I know a different Manfredonia from town. I think you're wrong about a teacher and/or a student named Manfredonia.
But I don't care that much. It's not a story.

What kind of answer is that?

Two Newtown schoolteachers/staff were taken to the hospital after a morning-long shooting threat.

The only reason more people aren't thinking about it is because they don't know about it.

Newtown is VERY small. Some teachers volunteer at multiple schools or outright teach at multiple schools.

You're saying two of your wife's colleagues were taken to the hospital after their school was locked down for a shooter threat, and classes canceled, and she knows absolutely nothing about it, and remained disinterested? That's just not believable.

If you really are a resident of Newtown, you ought to be pretty weirded out by the transport of two female teachers to the hospital that somehow remained a 100% secret to every other teacher in town.

What I'm thinking about is the fact that if your wife worked at Sandy Hook, she worked with Georgeann Manfredonia, yet you've never heard of the woman and apparently neither has your wife.

That came off snippier than I meant.

Hey relax , he is an expert at telling you about all the golf courses in the area. Always tell the forum your " I shot in the 90's again damnit " golf score . Mention that for sure. ; )

Yeah, and the "not for walking" park full if hiking trails, lol.

And the "Natalie Hammond is a friend...errr no "she's not my friend" I don't know her but my wife does. This PlasMan is full of shit.

awesome-

the timeline is definitely bullshit-(5 minutes : ABSURD) ABSOLUTE minimum is 9:35 am to 9:46. More likely longer since the shots were likely fired before the 911 radio transmission.

Penna found the lone survivor in the middle classroom right ? Shooter not located is transmitted on the radio at about 9:45 am. So how did Lanza get his dead body passed all the cops in the hall and then discovered in the middle classroom at 9:52?

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It is looking more and more like most of Soto's kids ran out of the room; I'm not sure what the closet thing is about, unless they mean bathroom (water closet).

But that may be moot, since, with the exception of the Soriano and Haddick boys, all survivors were thought to have seen the shooter. The following survivor families signed the privacy petition to Malloy:

Hugo & Elizabeth Rojas (Soto's class)

Dan & Barb Tarpey (Soto's class)

Robert & Diane Licata (Soto's class)

Peter & Carolina Salamy (Soto's class)

Tony & Susie Ehrens (Soto's class)

Dave & Carly Posey (Soto's class)

Christopher & Michele Olam (Soto's class)

Christy & Rob Hatcher (Rousseau's class)

Stacey & Scott Lavelle (Soto's class)

Steve & Jennifer Maksel (Soto's class)

The Soriano and Haddick families didn't sign; unsure why.

All together, that makes 12 surviving children--one from Rousseau's class, and 11 from Soto's.

It's also possible that the Soriano and Haddick boys were not at school that day, and that there are two children from Roig's class (or somewhere else in the school) who are listed as witnesses.

All of this information is public, and provided by the families. None of it comes from private sources. All of the above families, with the exception of the two listed, signed a petition to Gov. Malloy and it is clear they weren't trying to keep their identities a secret any longer (nor was Ms. Pisani at that point, whose son signed the petition).

On that subject, can you fill us in on exactly what they requested from whom. Seems odd that NO one varied from the "company line" in this situation, no?

There is no way they could have hidden children in a closet.

The classrooms do not have closets. They have free standing cabinets with shelves but if you got one child in there you would be lucky.

But don't let the truth ruin a good story/drill

Quoting AC 47816992
All together, that makes 12 surviving children--one from Rousseau's class, and 11 from Soto's.

I believe what I heard was 9 from Soto's class who made it down to Riverside Rd. 2 from Soto's class found in the bathroom, 1 from Rousseau's class found uninjured. Makes 12.

It's hearsay, but fits.

Of the 9 on Riverside Rd, 5 in the Bryce Maksel group headed west on Riverside for up to a mile. 4 of the Aiden Licata group ended up a Rosen's. Gene has always maintained 6. He is correct when the bus driver's 2 kids are included. It was just never publicly talked about.

Last Edited by SOX on 10/12/2013 02:57 PM

I am not a story.
I regularly shoot in the 90's and sometime high 80's.
Two HOM Teachers were not taken to hospital
I only know Bob Manfro and his wife & ex-wife.

Last Edited by PlasMan on 10/12/2013 02:46 PM