The US First Strike Doctrine And the Threat of Nuclear War...US on record may retaliate a CYBER attack with nukes,even on non-nuke countries | |
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Uncle Fuck Stick (OP) User ID: 58787026 United States 06/02/2014 08:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The US First Strike Doctrine And the Threat of Nuclear War...US on record may retaliate a CYBER attack with nukes,even on non-nuke countries Ever wonder why things seem so out of whack? Quoting: PIR Why the USA and other nations no longer recognize international law? The answer is the nation has gone rogue and is operating as the global judge...jury and executioner striving for global dominance! Watch and learn why things are so out of control: :4hlick: |
Krazy Effin Ivan User ID: 58788621 United States 06/02/2014 10:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The US First Strike Doctrine And the Threat of Nuclear War...US on record may retaliate a CYBER attack with nukes,even on non-nuke countries BS!! times ten. With progressive pricks in charge such as Obutthead, we can't surrender fast enough. The US is not going to nuke any dam body that's for sure. <<< this guy sold out lots of military secrets <<< and when she gets in office she will sell the rest. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48562152 United States 06/02/2014 10:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The US First Strike Doctrine And the Threat of Nuclear War...US on record may retaliate a CYBER attack with nukes,even on non-nuke countries BS!! times ten. With progressive pricks in charge such as Obutthead, we can't surrender fast enough. The US is not going to nuke any dam body that's for sure. Quoting: Krazy Effin Ivan 58788621 <<< this guy sold out lots of military secrets <<< and when she gets in office she will sell the rest. Might surprise you... I remember a study conducted several years ago by psychologists about using nuclear weapons and the study found that the LESS military / combat experience a person had, the faster the person was to order a nuke strike. Those MOST likely to order a nuclear strike were women with no military experience, at the LEAST provocation. Those LEAST likely to order a strike were men with military experience, up to in some cases losing the battle scenario. In light of the almost 200 years of the American "christian" church's attack on manhood and their insistence that women are worshiped and idolized above all else, the feminization of our culture would include the government and translate itself to foreign policy. Once again, ALL our woes can be traced back to the feminization of the culture which has been going on for at least 150 years. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38771320 Denmark 06/02/2014 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The US First Strike Doctrine And the Threat of Nuclear War...US on record may retaliate a CYBER attack with nukes,even on non-nuke countries ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48562152 Those MOST likely to order a nuclear strike were women with no military experience, at the LEAST provocation. Those LEAST likely to order a strike were men with military experience, up to in some cases losing the battle scenario. In light of the almost 200 years of the American "christian" church's attack on manhood and their insistence that women are worshiped and idolized above all else, the feminization of our culture would include the government and translate itself to foreign policy. Once again, ALL our woes can be traced back to the feminization of the culture which has been going on for at least 150 years. he is so right (believe me, I know!) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58791227 Greece 06/02/2014 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The US First Strike Doctrine And the Threat of Nuclear War...US on record may retaliate a CYBER attack with nukes,even on non-nuke countries US has to look at what will happen to Israel. When a subject keep on menacing everybody and his action can actually damage many other than the targeted one it comes a moment that in case of confrontation EVERYBODY will join against the offender. It's like a mafia boy going around menacing everybody in the neighbour. One day a mob will spontaneously create and kick the shit out of him. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58791227 Greece 06/02/2014 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The US First Strike Doctrine And the Threat of Nuclear War...US on record may retaliate a CYBER attack with nukes,even on non-nuke countries ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48562152 Those MOST likely to order a nuclear strike were women with no military experience, at the LEAST provocation. Those LEAST likely to order a strike were men with military experience, up to in some cases losing the battle scenario. In light of the almost 200 years of the American "christian" church's attack on manhood and their insistence that women are worshiped and idolized above all else, the feminization of our culture would include the government and translate itself to foreign policy. Once again, ALL our woes can be traced back to the feminization of the culture which has been going on for at least 150 years. he is so right (believe me, I know!) women are a huge propellers at personal level at joinig the army. they are drivven by fear and resurce grabbing Funny is when they say "if women were governing we woud not have war" Look at any woman who reached key position in governments...they are rabid |
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InTheHood User ID: 58774752 United States 06/02/2014 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The US First Strike Doctrine And the Threat of Nuclear War...US on record may retaliate a CYBER attack with nukes,even on non-nuke countries So what? Fuck with us and we'll nuke you.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51381951 I like it. That sounds like a good deterrent to me. Agree. I was thinking the same thing. Lots of things other countries could do to us that would result in the same damage, doesn't have to be nuclear, so yeah, I would prefer a strong defense to possible exploitation by other countries that would sabotage our systems/infrastructure; IMO: resulting in just as many/much deaths/destruction as if a nuclear bomb was dropped on us. There are fanatics out there (allegedly incl. some of TPTB from foreign countries) that would like to see millions of people in America die (and want our resources) so yeah, I think this policy is a very strong deterrent. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 58801437 United Kingdom 06/02/2014 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The US First Strike Doctrine And the Threat of Nuclear War...US on record may retaliate a CYBER attack with nukes,even on non-nuke countries US has to look at what will happen to Israel. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58791227 When a subject keep on menacing everybody and his action can actually damage many other than the targeted one it comes a moment that in case of confrontation EVERYBODY will join against the offender. It's like a mafia boy going around menacing everybody in the neighbour. One day a mob will spontaneously create and kick the shit out of him. Israel gets nuked accidently while nuking Saudi.. Watch it unfold soon. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 58801437 United Kingdom 06/02/2014 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The US First Strike Doctrine And the Threat of Nuclear War...US on record may retaliate a CYBER attack with nukes,even on non-nuke countries If there was a serious cyber attack on the US infrastructure that would possibly justify military response because the ramifications could be huge. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5439482 Or you could just make a situation up to get the public behind the idea. I wonder what false flag will be the first when they want to attack Iran? |
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Lyrica72113 User ID: 24289757 United States 07/13/2014 08:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The US First Strike Doctrine And the Threat of Nuclear War...US on record may retaliate a CYBER attack with nukes,even on non-nuke countries [link to newsclick.in] Quoting: Uncle Fuck Stick China has a theory of credible minimum deterrence. Unlike the US, both Russia and China have always declared that they will not use nuclear weapons unless attacked with nuclear weapons first. The US had withdrawn from the ABM treaty with the arguments that there were “rogue” states and rogue non-state players demanding the development of a missile shield. Initially, they had also argued that the missile shield being deployed was against Iran. Russia had asked the US that if the shield was for other countries and not Russia, Russia was willing to join the US in creating such a shield. The US has spurned all such advances and its deployment in locations where the country being targeted is obviously Russia makes it clear that the ABM shield is central to its doctrine of nuclear primacy. Lest we believe that this talk of nuclear primacy is just some anti US posturing, it is instructive to see what the latest US doctrine is. The Nuclear Weapons Employment Policy submitted by the Obama administration on June 13, 2013 [link to www.defense.gov] makes it clear that the principle of “counterforce” is retained as the central principle in employing nuclear weapons as also the ability to Launch Under Attack. Each of them are continuance of the cold war policies and means that the key elements of nuclear war still remains. Counterforce means that weapons are kept at high levels of alert, ready to launch upon warning of an enemy attack, and able to pre-emptively attack enemy forces. Both elements – pre-emptive nuclear strikes and hair trigger alert of nuclear forces means that the threat of nuclear war remains. With the added policy of ABM shields, the temptation of the US to target other nuclear weapon states or states such as Iran actually increases. The US has not only argued that it can use pre-emptive nuclear strikes against non-nuclear weapon states, but recently has also argued that even a cyber attack on the US could trigger a nuclear response. [link to articles.washingtonpost.com] It is clear today that while the US is arguing that nuclear weapons are unacceptable in the arsenal of other countries, it regards the same nuclear weapons not as deterrence but as first strike and pre-emptive weapons. It wants the world to do what it says and not what it does. The hypocrisy involved in these postures is what is unravelling the nuclear compact in which nuclear weapon states agreed to disarm while others agreed to forego nuclear weapons. More at link When people have the choice to chose... they chose wrong... |
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Misspurrrrrect User ID: 12896311 United States 06/16/2016 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The US First Strike Doctrine And the Threat of Nuclear War...US on record may retaliate a CYBER attack with nukes,even on non-nuke countries [link to newsclick.in] Quoting: Uncle Fuck Stick China has a theory of credible minimum deterrence. Unlike the US, both Russia and China have always declared that they will not use nuclear weapons unless attacked with nuclear weapons first. The US had withdrawn from the ABM treaty with the arguments that there were “rogue” states and rogue non-state players demanding the development of a missile shield. Initially, they had also argued that the missile shield being deployed was against Iran. Russia had asked the US that if the shield was for other countries and not Russia, Russia was willing to join the US in creating such a shield. The US has spurned all such advances and its deployment in locations where the country being targeted is obviously Russia makes it clear that the ABM shield is central to its doctrine of nuclear primacy. Lest we believe that this talk of nuclear primacy is just some anti US posturing, it is instructive to see what the latest US doctrine is. The Nuclear Weapons Employment Policy submitted by the Obama administration on June 13, 2013 [link to www.defense.gov] makes it clear that the principle of “counterforce” is retained as the central principle in employing nuclear weapons as also the ability to Launch Under Attack. Each of them are continuance of the cold war policies and means that the key elements of nuclear war still remains. Counterforce means that weapons are kept at high levels of alert, ready to launch upon warning of an enemy attack, and able to pre-emptively attack enemy forces. Both elements – pre-emptive nuclear strikes and hair trigger alert of nuclear forces means that the threat of nuclear war remains. With the added policy of ABM shields, the temptation of the US to target other nuclear weapon states or states such as Iran actually increases. The US has not only argued that it can use pre-emptive nuclear strikes against non-nuclear weapon states, but recently has also argued that even a cyber attack on the US could trigger a nuclear response. [link to articles.washingtonpost.com] It is clear today that while the US is arguing that nuclear weapons are unacceptable in the arsenal of other countries, it regards the same nuclear weapons not as deterrence but as first strike and pre-emptive weapons. It wants the world to do what it says and not what it does. The hypocrisy involved in these postures is what is unravelling the nuclear compact in which nuclear weapon states agreed to disarm while others agreed to forego nuclear weapons. More at link Here is a partial quote from the policy of Bill Clinton: "Bell said the press had incorrectly indicated that the PDD "still allows" the United States to launch nuclear weapons upon receiving warning of an attack. Bell emphasized that "there is no change in this PDD with respect to U.S. policy on launch on warning and that policy is that we do not, not rely on it." In fact, Bell said "in this PDD we direct our military forces to continue to posture themselves in such a way as to not rely on launch on warning—to be able to absorb a nuclear strike and still have enough force surviving to constitute credible deterrence." Bell pointed out that while the United States has always had the "technical capability" to implement a policy of launch on warning, it has chosen not to do so. "Our policy is to confirm that we are under nuclear attack with actual detonations before retaliating," he said." [link to www.armscontrol.org (secure)] He didn't ask anyone what we thought. My attitude is "go blow yourself up, idiot. Don't be making those decisions for me!" I doubt "O" will ask us what we think either. |
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