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When will Elijah the prophet appear in the world?

 
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When will Elijah the prophet appear in the world?
POLL: When will Elijah arrive on the world scene?
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The first thing we need to determine is when is "The great and terrible day of the lord"?

We know from Malachi 4:5-6:
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:

6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse


So we know Elijah comes BEFORE the curse....so before the tribulation starts.

When paul is speaking of 'the day of the lord' in 1 thessalonians 5:3 he says they will be saying peace and safety right before the day of the lord begins so it is a pre-tribulation time that Elijah arrives on the scene because Elijah will be sent "BEFORE" the day of the lord:

1 thessalonians 5:3:
For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction comes upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.



The next question would be:
How long before the day of the lord does Elijah come to turn the hearts of the children to the fathers and the heart of the fathers to the children?

With television and media sources I would think 40 days would be an ample amount of time for a God sent Elijah to send a message of repentance to the people so let's work with 40 days which in the bible represents time of testing or judgement and the same period of time ninevah received to turn back to God in Jonahs time.

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When John the baptist came in the power and spirit of Elijah he came clearing a path for the arrival of messiah(Jesus)

When the last day Elijah comes he will clear a path for the arrival of "the day of the lord" in a time of judgement.

When God brings judgement he brings your enemies against you to deliver the rod of discipline and then later breaks that rod when he is finished using it.

The day of the lord may be the judgement of the united states and the carrying away captive of the small remnant that will survive the judement which will be taken into captivity and through a furnace of affliction made into a holy people

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When a moshiach(anointed one) arrives there is a pattern of showing up and then going back into hiding and then reappearing which should be the same thing Elijah will do

examples of anointed ones arriving then going into hiding then reappearing

1. Moses ruler in Egypt then went into desert for 40 years before arriving as deliverer of Hebrew children

2. Eiljah test with the prophets of baal then was afraid of Jezebel and then went into hiding to reappear later

3. Jesus arrived 2000 years ago to be our atonement for sin and after being gone for 2000 years will reappear in the end


4. The final Elijah should appear with a 40 day call to repentance before the judgement and then go into the wilderness just as most all of Gods servants do as even Jesus was 40 days in the wilderness before his beginning of his ministry


The question is what sign will bring forth the final Elijah?

Perhaps the sign of the woman clothed with the sun and moon under her feet of Ocotber 6 2013 will be the sign that brings forth the final Elijah with a 40 day call to repentance before the great and terrible day of the lord:

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The next thing we need to look at is the misconception that the tribulation period is only 7 years long when revelation 2:10 states you will have tribulation 10 days which represent 10 years:
Rev 2:10:
10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer : behold , the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried ; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

There is a time known as Jacobs trouble and people automatically throw this time period in with the 7 year tribulation when actually it should be 42 months prior and separate to the 7 year tribulation bringing the total tribulation to 10 days(years) as stated in Rev 2:10


This time period will coincide with the fulfillment of the 3 fall feasts that need to be fulfilled:

1. Feast of trumpets(Day of the lord)
2. Feast of Yom Kippur(10 days later) representing 10 years
3. Feast of Tabernacles(1000 year millinium)


The time period between Feast of trumpet and Yom kippur are known as 10 days of awe but in actuality they will be 10 years of awe and will end with the death of the two witnesses being the official day of atonement(Yom kippur) as the tishri 1-10 are merely rehearsals to the true fulfillment of the fall feast which could not be celebrated with as much rememberance if they were celebrated with the true 10 years of awe so just 10 days of awe between feast of trumpets and yom kippur are celebrated each year to keep those fall feasts in rememberance


So when the judgement of America comes it will be considered the true Feast of trumpets date and possibly it will be 40 days after the final Elijah shows up which could be October 6 2013. The true yom kippur date will be the final day of the two witnesses testimony and death
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Re: When will Elijah the prophet appear in the world?
You need another option for "He's already here".
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Paul says we (Christians) will escape the day of wrath. The day of wrath is midtribulation. Revelation 6 calls it "God's day of wrath" when the sixth seal is opened. Revelation 7 has the 144,000 sealed and the multitude brought out of the Great Tribulation which is the last 1260 days

He was here as John the Baptist and is here in the endtimes. Ephesians 4 confirms that those who were brought out of hades when Christ descended into earth were depsoited in this time as he ascended. Elijah's awakening will be like the rest of the elect in the parousia. The first will be last and the last will be first. They are not deceived but for their sake flesh is saved. There is a reason this generation will not pass.

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I think it is possible that the bible is referring to the 144,000 when it says I will send Elijah!
I have also heard that he has already come.
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I think it is possible that the bible is referring to the 144,000 when it says I will send Elijah!
I have also heard that he has already come.
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So when Revelation 11 states there will be 2 witnesses you don't think one will be Elijah?


Rev 11:

3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
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I think it is possible that the bible is referring to the 144,000 when it says I will send Elijah!
I have also heard that he has already come.
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The 144,000 will not die. The two witnesses are the last mortal testament. They are the two olive trees and lampstands. The first part was 70 years from Christ birth to the destruction of the old 2nd temple in 70 AD. The life of a typical olive tree is 70 years. The last is from 1948 and the creation of the new olive tree(s).

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Well, I don't know of course, but I am considering the 144,000. It may be that Elijah will come, or it could be that 2 of the 144,000, chosen by God will die. Who knows for sure!
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the 2 witnesses are Henoch and Elias the 144000 are symbolic meaning a lot of people.
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bumpfor another interesting debate coming our way.

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I tell you Elijah has come already, if you will receive it.
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I tell you Elijah has come already, if you will receive it.
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Matthew 17:11:
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.

John was one fulfillment but there shall be a final elijah in the end
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Anyone that has seen the book of ELI has certainly witnessed these things.




any other ideas?
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The knights of cydonia have been 'activated'
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LOL !

I do believe that is tripping balls.


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well the two witnesses will be destroyed by the Beast.. which is the Antichrist last pope... of the mother harlot roman catholic church.. i dont count the Jesuit thats taken over from benedict as the last pope. benedict is still alive.





so if they are to preach the same time as the beast .. maybe and then get killed by him and lie in the streets of jerusalem for 3 and a half days.. if thats literal 3 days then sure a body can last that long out in the elements,.

if its figurative? then it would be they are lying there for the last 3 1/2 days which is 3 1/2 years.. which is the reign of the antichrist.. and then after hes reign the lord will apear and the rapture happens..

hmm
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indeed...




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well the two witnesses will be destroyed by the Beast.. which is the Antichrist last pope
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Antichrist is Jewish. The pope is pagan as good as it gets.
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Here he is, a bit rusty, semantics are a little askew, but heart still good......yeah, heart is good :)
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Well, I don't know of course, but I am considering the 144,000. It may be that Elijah will come, or it could be that 2 of the 144,000, chosen by God will die. Who knows for sure!
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The two witnesses are most likely the 144,000 caring the spirit if elijah. The 144,000 represent the two houses if Israel.
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well the two witnesses will be destroyed by the Beast.. which is the Antichrist last pope... of the mother harlot roman catholic church.. i dont count the Jesuit thats taken over from benedict as the last pope. benedict is still alive.





so if they are to preach the same time as the beast .. maybe and then get killed by him and lie in the streets of jerusalem for 3 and a half days.. if thats literal 3 days then sure a body can last that long out in the elements,.

if its figurative? then it would be they are lying there for the last 3 1/2 days which is 3 1/2 years.. which is the reign of the antichrist.. and then after hes reign the lord will apear and the rapture happens..

hmm
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No, the antichrist will not be a pope. Saint Francis says that at the election of a pope, the elected will be killed and someone else ( the false prophet as has been predicted by many other saints ) will proclaim himself pope. Afterwards cardinals will elect another pope and a schism will happen. The false prophet will not be canonically elected, which means he is no pope, only pretends to be a pope.

Has the body of Jesus in the grave not been preserved? What about Don Bosco who still is as fresh as he were alive? And all the other incorruptibles in the catholic church?
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Well, I don't know of course, but I am considering the 144,000. It may be that Elijah will come, or it could be that 2 of the 144,000, chosen by God will die. Who knows for sure!
 Quoting: bigD111


The two witnesses are most likely the 144,000 caring the spirit if elijah. The 144,000 represent the two houses if Israel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20047105


The visions of the saints are clear: it will be Henoch ( the bible says that he suddenly was not seen anymore) and Elias who taken in a fiery carriage. Both are alive in the garden of Eden, waiting for the end of the world and they are both seeing all things in God.
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I tell you Elijah has come already, if you will receive it.
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Matthew 17:11:
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.

John was one fulfillment but there shall be a final elijah in the end
 Quoting: waterman


This is correct. The folding of time is taking place. The last shall be first and the first shall be last. Christ is the alpha and omega. The beginning and end are of the same accord. Ephesians 4 confirms it, and for the elect to be here, then times are made as one. Paul did not lie when he said he would be here in the end.

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I tell you Elijah has come already, if you will receive it.
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Matthew 17:11:
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.

John was one fulfillment but there shall be a final elijah in the end
 Quoting: waterman


This is correct. The folding of time is taking place. The last shall be first and the first shall be last. Christ is the alpha and omega. The beginning and end are of the same accord. Ephesians 4 confirms it, and for the elect to be here, then times are made as one. Paul did not lie when he said he would be here in the end.
 Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way


Mystery of time isn't revealed unto world yet, the Resurrection which was and is to be. The atonement completed yet underway, which is much more than world knows. Mankind will have to wait until the day of revealing to know the full story of it all, many shall be humbled in that day and brought to tears on their knees.
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Well, I don't know of course, but I am considering the 144,000. It may be that Elijah will come, or it could be that 2 of the 144,000, chosen by God will die. Who knows for sure!
 Quoting: bigD111


The two witnesses are most likely the 144,000 caring the spirit if elijah. The 144,000 represent the two houses if Israel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20047105


the 144,000 represents the twelve tribes of Israel, which two remain in this dimension of the earth and ten brought up into a higher, those of the higher shall return from the north when the time appointed is due. This means those counted on earth now number the 24,000 and will be gathered in due time when appointed according to Book of life.
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Well, I don't know of course, but I am considering the 144,000. It may be that Elijah will come, or it could be that 2 of the 144,000, chosen by God will die. Who knows for sure!
 Quoting: bigD111


The two witnesses are most likely the 144,000 caring the spirit if elijah. The 144,000 represent the two houses if Israel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20047105


The visions of the saints are clear: it will be Henoch ( the bible says that he suddenly was not seen anymore) and Elias who taken in a fiery carriage. Both are alive in the garden of Eden, waiting for the end of the world and they are both seeing all things in God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34319824


Was the world not told that prophets can reincarnate that Hades holds them not, but man is bound to one death and falls to underworld but a prophet can have more than one life. Elijah has come in a new name and shall awaken to himself in time of his awakening, as has Moses returned in a new name and many of the disciples and not all know whom they are at this time. But by their fruits so shall they be known and shall recognize the Light. It shall be He whom prepares the way Elias whom is Elijah. And it shall be He whom gave the law to man whom is Moses. These are the two witnesses spoken in Revelation 11.
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Well, I don't know of course, but I am considering the 144,000. It may be that Elijah will come, or it could be that 2 of the 144,000, chosen by God will die. Who knows for sure!
 Quoting: bigD111


The two witnesses are most likely the 144,000 caring the spirit if elijah. The 144,000 represent the two houses if Israel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20047105


The visions of the saints are clear: it will be Henoch ( the bible says that he suddenly was not seen anymore) and Elias who taken in a fiery carriage. Both are alive in the garden of Eden, waiting for the end of the world and they are both seeing all things in God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34319824


Where is there proof he is in the Garden of Eden? Is there postage in the Garden because Elijah sends a letter to King Joram during the time Elisha is serving. See 2 Chronicles 21:12-15.

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