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Why people knock the trinity when its in the bible?

 
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Why people knock the trinity when its in the bible?
Theres an entire section put aside in the KJV bible that explains the trinity and where it is in the bible..

i see a lot of bible tards on here ripping the trinity, but its in the bible!!!!!

makes no sense to me
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People that deny JESUS CHRIST and the LORD make me shake my head, I can not believe it when it is so clear, just look at the world, you know there is a creator.
If you break my wings, I will just find a cloud and learn to fly again. The Lord will catch you when you fall or teach you to fly! May the footprints I leave lead you to BELIEVE.
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Re: Why people knock the trinity when its in the bible?
Because they prefer their own thoughts
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Re: Why people knock the trinity when its in the bible?
Theres an entire section put aside in the KJV bible that explains the trinity and where it is in the bible..

i see a lot of bible tards on here ripping the trinity, but its in the bible!!!!!

makes no sense to me
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We've moved past the Trinity and now we're on the Ghetto Monk...
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Re: Why people knock the trinity when its in the bible?
The word Trinity is not found in the bible. I suspect the "thing" you refer to are apocryphal texts which are of dubious origin. I'm pretty sure that the catholic church puts them in.
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Re: Why people knock the trinity when its in the bible?
like homer says, the bible says a lot of things
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Luke 1 shows plainly when the angel Gabriel talks to Mary who/what the Holy Spirit is. It is the force or power of God. Another scripture is when Jesus Himself says "My Father and I are ONE...! It can't be any more plain that that. Also John 1 shows God and the Word (Logos) in the beginning (2).
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The word Trinity is not found in the bible. I suspect the "thing" you refer to are apocryphal texts which are of dubious origin. I'm pretty sure that the catholic church puts them in.
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The Catholic church made the bible, if you don't believe in Christianity, start your own religion.....


Wait....... Rapture............ You did.


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Re: Why people knock the trinity when its in the bible?
The word Trinity is not found in the bible. I suspect the "thing" you refer to are apocryphal texts which are of dubious origin. I'm pretty sure that the catholic church puts them in.
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in the new king james version there is 3 pages insert where it talks about the trinity and its existence in the bible.
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The Catholic church made the bible, if you don't believe in Christianity, start your own religion.....


Wait....... Rapture............ You did.


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History aint your strong suit is it?
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quote the SCRIPTURE NOT inserted pages (that's an opinion), I DON'T BELIEVE YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A SCRIPTURE, DO YOU?
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quote the SCRIPTURE NOT inserted pages (that's an opinion), I DON'T BELIEVE YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A SCRIPTURE, DO YOU?
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Matthew 28:19
Viewing the King James Version. Click to switch to 1611 King James Version of Matthew 28:19.



Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
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Genesis 1:26

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
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John 1:1
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In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
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People that deny JESUS CHRIST and the LORD make me shake my head, I can not believe it when it is so clear, just look at the world, you know there is a creator.
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Most people know in their hearts that there is a God, a creator.
Religion, is when somebody wants to use that instinctive knowledge to their own gain, be it power, money and control.
I can look around me and within me, and KNOW there is a God, I know that there is so much more to this than we know.
What makes absolutely no sense, is that a God, would put us on this planet, give us a choice from a multitude of religious paths, all claiming to be the one true path, all offered by Men, who seem to be interested in power and money. And punish us with an eternity of suffering should we make the wrong choice.
If you treated a Dog like that you would be arrested.
I believe, God made us with everything we need on the day we are born, we have the knowledge of right and wrong. We can experience Love and Empathy. Why you are here is a mystery, but live your life well, do what you know is right, and I am sure you will be fine.
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quote the SCRIPTURE NOT inserted pages (that's an opinion), I DON'T BELIEVE YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A SCRIPTURE, DO YOU?
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Matthew 28:19
Viewing the King James Version. Click to switch to 1611 King James Version of Matthew 28:19.



Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
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It never says Trinity though.
I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is. -Albert Camus

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Re: Why people knock the trinity when its in the bible?
Theres an entire section put aside in the KJV bible that explains the trinity and where it is in the bible..

i see a lot of bible tards on here ripping the trinity, but its in the bible!!!!!

makes no sense to me
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The Trinity concept came to the Romans and their Bible by way of the Greek Ptolemies in Africa when they ruled Egypt. The Greeks learned of the Trinity from the Black African people who are the natives of Egypt.

The European Heathen and the Arab Heathen puzzle at this concept because it is an inherently African philosophy coming directly from the spiritual tradition of Black Africans.

Just like circumcision.
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Re: Why people knock the trinity when its in the bible?
It doesn't say Trinity but it does talk about the three separate, The Father, The Son and the Holy Spirit.
I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is. -Albert Camus

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Re: Why people knock the trinity when its in the bible?
It doesn't say Trinity but it does talk about the three separate, The Father, The Son and the Holy Spirit.
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Which is what the trinity is.....
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Re: Why people knock the trinity when its in the bible?
The Catholic church made the bible, if you don't believe in Christianity, start your own religion.....


Wait....... Rapture............ You did.


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History aint your strong suit is it?
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Actually it is.... look up the codex, or follow anything in Christianity, it will lead directly to Christ through the CATHOLIC church.

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Re: Why people knock the trinity when its in the bible?
Theres an entire section put aside in the KJV bible that explains the trinity and where it is in the bible..

i see a lot of bible tards on here ripping the trinity, but its in the bible!!!!!

makes no sense to me
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Maybe because the bible is all bullshit anyway.
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Re: Why people knock the trinity when its in the bible?
Theres an entire section put aside in the KJV bible that explains the trinity and where it is in the bible..

i see a lot of bible tards on here ripping the trinity, but its in the bible!!!!!

makes no sense to me
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The word Trinity appears no where in the bible. It's a christian concept that was added long after the new testament was written.
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A wonderful book I recommend is "Communion With the Triune God" by John Owen, from Crossway Publishing. Read it last year. It's challenging, but is written with much love and warmth, so it is enjoyable.
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Re: Why people knock the trinity when its in the bible?
that "trinity"-doctrine is - of course - false. invented by a pagan and eventually promoted by the roman-catholic pedo fags.
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that "trinity"-doctrine is - of course - false. invented by a pagan and eventually promoted by the roman-catholic pedo fags.
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You can actually call it anything you want which represents the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit together as a unit. They are working together which makes them of ONE accord.... They are ONE.
I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is. -Albert Camus

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Re: Why people knock the trinity when its in the bible?
that "trinity"-doctrine is - of course - false. invented by a pagan and eventually promoted by the roman-catholic pedo fags.
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You can actually call it anything you want which represents the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit together as a unit. They are working together which makes them of ONE accord.... They are ONE.
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How do you know ? You asked them ? You've been there ? ;)

"The Fourth Council of the Lateran was convoked by
Pope Innocent III with the papal bull of April 19, 1213,
([he] "spent a majority of his tenure as Pope (1198-1216)
preparing for a great crusade on the Holy Land."
...
"Unlike past popes, Innocent III displayed interest in
leading the crusade himself" source)
and the Council gathered at Rome's Lateran Palace beginning
November 11, 1215."

Do I need to explain anything here ? Guess not.
Maybe "for fun": They began on 11/11/9. Familiar ?
I could stop right here, but I'll continue for "more fun":

"The three persons are co-equal"

Are they ? Then the Bible "must be wrong", because:
John 14:28
“You have heard that I said to you,
'I am going away, and I am coming to you';
if you had loved me, you would have rejoiced
that I am going to join my Father,
for my Father is greater than I.”
John 10:29
“My Father who gave them to me
is greater than all,
and no one is able to snatch anything
from my Father's hand.”

Doesn't sound too "co-equal", does it ?

Now read this:
John 3:36
Whoever is trusting in The Son, has The Eternal Life,
and whoever disobeys The Son shall not see The Life,
but the anger of God shall abide upon him.”
Acts 8:37
And Philippus said,
“If you believe with all the heart, it is authorized.”
And he answered and said,
“I do believe that Yeshua The Messiah is The Son of God.”
John 3:18
Whoever believes in him is not judged,
and whoever does not believe is judged already,
because he does not believe in The Name of
The Only Begotten Son of God.
John 6:40
“For this is the will of my Father:
Everyone who sees The Son
and trusts in him
shall have eternal life,
and I shall raise him in the last day.”
1 John 4:15
And everyone who confesses Yeshua,
that he is The Son of God,
God dwells in him and he dwells in God.
John 3:16
For God loved the world in this way:
so much that he would give up his Son, The Only One,
so that everyone who trusts in him
shall not be lost, but he shall have eternal life.
John 5:24
Timeless truth I speak to you:
“Whoever hears my word
and trusts in him who has sent me
has the eternal Life,
and he comes not into judgment,
but he moves from death into Life.

So...lemme please ask you...
...how can you achieve trust in His Only Begotten Son,
if you identify His (only) Son as being "one co-equal third" ?
YOU CAN'T.

And please - post all Bible verses which explicitly state "trinity".
You will name 0. Zero. Nada. None such verses exist.

"The first of the early church fathers to be recorded using the word "Trinity"
was Theophilus of Antioch writing in the late 2nd century."
(..."We gather from his writings ... that he was born a pagan")

So let me summarize:

- Some random pagan dude invents the "Trinity"-doctrine
- Invention dates approx 150 years after Christ's "death"
- RCC "honors" him and since propagates its use and definition
- According to that doctrine, God, Yeshua and The Spirit of Holiness
"are one God" and "three co-equal persons"
- The Bible does not feature one single verse that explicitly mentions
the term/word "Trinity" (how...it wasn't even invented back then)
- A simple search for "Son Of God" equals 55 hits right away
(and there are way more references which are alike)
- The Bible clearly states the exact opposite in relation to
"co-equal"
- The Bible clearly states - on numerous occassions - that
you must TRUST both our Father and His SON
- The Bible clearly states - on numerous occassions - that
Yeshua is his ONLY BEGOTTEN SON

- Is it so hard to just accept that there's "a" Father and "a" Son (and no need for any highly advanced super duper intelligent expert lvl 9-explanation) ?
- Don't y'all hear some alarm bell ringin' its non-existent butt off as soon as you're looking into the history of the DOCTRINE named "trinity" ?
- Aren't the above (and many, many more) Bible verses enough evidence ?
- Does "...was more subtle than..." sound any familiar ?
- Must e.g. the "most simple", "most uneducated" person be able to understand God's Word ?
- And if so, would he or she totally understand the "trinity"-doctrine ?
- Would he or she understand the meaning of "Father & (only begotten) Son" ?

1 John 2:22
Who is a liar
but whoever denies that Yeshua is The Messiah?
Such a person is a false messiah.
He who denies The Father
denies also the Son.

So...my five Bratwürste:
He who claims that The Father is
"1/3rd of the same co-equal being"
and he who claims that The Messiah is
"1/3rd of the same co-equal being"
(logically implied)
denies The Father and
denies also the Son.
Thus, he who claims ^ is
a liar and
a false messiah.

2 John 1:7
For many deceivers
have gone out into the world,
those who do not confess
that Yeshua The Messiah has come in the flesh;
such a person is
a deceiver
and antichrist.

Exodus 20:7
"You shall not take
the name of Yahweh your God
in vain, for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain.

John 14:6
Yeshua said to him,
“I AM THE LIVING GOD,
The Way and The Truth and The Life;
no man comes to my Father but by me alone.”

Et voilà. :)
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John 14:26
“But he, The Redeemer of the accursed, The Spirit of Holiness,
whom my Father sends in my name,
he will teach you all things
and he will remind you of everything whatsoever
I have told you.”

So what can we find here ?
- The Spirit "is a He"
- The Father sends Him
- The Son asked for Him to be sent

Yeshua did not say "My Father sent Himself".
Neither did He say "My Father sent me".
Neither did He say "I sent..."

"My Father sends...Him...in my name".
"He will remind you...of my teachings".

Conclusion:
Three "different persons".
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Re: Why people knock the trinity when its in the bible?
Theres an entire section put aside in the KJV bible that explains the trinity and where it is in the bible..

i see a lot of bible tards on here ripping the trinity, but its in the bible!!!!!

makes no sense to me
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1 JOHN 5
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven,
THE FATHER,
THE WORD,
AND THE HOLY GHOST:
and these three are one.


I've heard it said that if you get Jesus Christ wrong,
it doesn't matter what else you get right.

Jesus "GREAT COMMISION",

MATTHEW 28
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations,
baptizing them
in the name of
THE FATHER,
and of THE SON,
and of THE HOLY GHOST:

20 Teaching them to observe all things
whatsoever I have commanded you:
and, lo, I am with you always,
even unto the end of the world. Amen.


What is GOD?
God is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
That IS, what God IS.


If you do not believe that Jesus Christ is
the Word of God made flesh, GOD incarnate,
you ARE NOT SAVED, because you are believeing
in "ANOTHER CHRIST", which Jesus warned us of.

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