just realized my worries about Americans on food stamps is ridiculous

Really? Is that number real?

From what I've heard in the last election, they kept saying half the USA is on food stamps and people eating like pigs and turning into zombies.

If its only $80 million, whats the big fuss. Maybe if it were $800 million I would understand.

In America one billion is nothing, one typhoon jet fighter costs 122 million $

very wise

uhmm...


its 80 BILLION


[link to www.washingtontimes.com]

Epic fail ...try 80 billion

[link to www.bloomberg.com]



Plus it isn't just the cost of food stamps ....it's the overall drain that long term government dependence has on society .... Economic and moral

these people who live off of handouts for years on end could use ingenuity and start their own businesses, go to school or get a job and work their way up .... They could then be a contributor to society rather then a drain on society

But problem goes much deeper then economic residuals

we have a moral problem .... the family unit or the lack thereof

Instead if government taking care of fanilies ....families should take care of families ....when the father and the mother go through finacial troubles ...the sons and daughters should step up and help out ......when the son has problems then the father and mother should help out .....etc...etc...

But since the traditional family unit has been destroyed by progressives this is hardly ever practiced

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It's also becoming a generational career path. Families grow up teaching their kids not how to produce, but how to navigate government benefits for maximum dollar.

And at the same time the most basic food from trees and plants are not allowed to be grown in most places posible without a government intervention or some form of permit that has to go back and forth between paper pushers for years

We give terrorist Billions so giving millions to Food Stamps no big deal.




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You are only looking at the monetary consequences. What about cultural? It breeds dependence, that dependence will be passed down from generation to generation.

Then you have 200 million people who "expect" the government to feed, clothe and house them.

That is not good.

I love how you fucking EBT shills say shit like this.

Yes, it is a big deal. Both things are a big fucking deal. Both things are big fucking waste while we have big fucking debt.

There are negative aspects of food stamp use. In theory it sounds good to make sure your population has a basic sustinence safety net -- and it probably is.

Unfortunately most of the money for food stamps just gets recycled back to major agricultural conglomerates who filling the stores with their GMO shit anyway. Various food retailers spend millions lobbying the government to get their locations approved for EBT and SNAP [I know Taco Bell was lobbying, I am not sure if they were successful].

Asl food stamps can make it easier for low quality undesirables to breed and continue their genetic lineage.

Where did you get the 80 million figure? Is that for the entire country or just one state?

Here comes the welfare whining again. I will say the same thing I always say to you people. 90% of American households have received government assistance at one time or another. So, chances are that you or someone in your family to the benefit of you had gotten government assistance. You just forget to include certain things because subsidized student loans, for example, are not pounded into your head as welfare by Fox News every damn day (and guess what.. I'm a Republican!)

So, stop being such damn hypocrites and cowards! Yes, cowards, because how fucking easy is it for you to blame poor, defenseless people instead of confronting the rich and powerful who are much more in control of our shitty situation. There are many ways that we could save money. Stop shipping much damn money to foreign dictators and societies who contribute nothing to us or our society. At least American citizens have or will contribute to the system at some point. Not to mention how much we have invested in them through raising them, and collectively putting them through school, or giving medical treatment to them so that one day they can contribute something. Who cares if the media and your party says it is such a drain on the system or call it welfare. I agree that there are a lot of people abusing the system but most are not and the requirements to receiving assistance are much more stringent than most people who have never actually experienced it believe.

At one point I took food stamps, I've gotten fed backed student loans, my grandma gets ss so I don't have to pay to take care of her, I've gotten unemployment and back then I made about $500-800 working a full time job. Now, I make 60k and I work my ass off and always have. But I don't think I would be here without help: help from my family, help from schools and teachers, help from friends and random strangers, and yes even help from the government. Does that make me a fucking leech or a good fucking investment? F*** all of you self righteous snobs.

I stopped there, at that B.S stat. If you want people to take you seriously, or read your post, don't start it with a bogus stat.

And if you've ever had the option of taking food stamps or starving; you'd choose food stamps too.

And if you've ever had the option of taking food stamps or starving; you'd choose food stamps too.

Except the argument isn't about taking food stamps or not, it's about rampant food stamp abuse. Which you damn well fucking know at this point yet continue to shill otherwise.

This is a coincidence. Just yesterday I woke up realizing the same thing. After all billions to the Middle East for relief, billions to fight the so called Cold War. Billions to bail out the casino banks of Wall Street, billions to bail out GM. Food Stamps for Americans? Why the hell not. Extended unemployment, why the hell not? Obama phones, why not. Congress, the president and the rest of the assholes in Washington can piss our tax money around the world, how about US taking care of US.

When food stamps were first expanded nationally in the 1970s, just 1 in 50 Americans participated; today the figure is almost 1 in 7. The program has doubled in size since 2008 and quadrupled since 2001.

Food stamps are one of nearly 80 means-tested federal welfare programs, including 17 for nutritional support. Collectively, these programs cost $700 billion annually, plus $200 billion in state contributions.

From 2001 to 2006 the food stamp budget doubled, even as unemployment remained around five percent.
Food stamps make up 80 percent of the current farm bill, costing $770 billion over the next 10 years.
Food stamp spending is projected to remain permanently and significantly above pre-recession levels.

Were food stamp spending returned to pre-recession (2007) levels, and increased at the rate of inflation, it would produce 10-year savings of $340 billion. The current farm bill calls for only $4 billion in savings.


[link to hotair.com]


Must be OPs first day shilling for the DNC, and she needs time to figure out the finer points of shilling.

Why the hell not? Because most food stamp money is being abused. Completely abused, and we need to rein in wasteful spending.

Same as with the military, same as with the bailouts.

It has to stop.

Fixed your post for you.

You are only calculating the monetary consequences...

You fail to recognize the long term problems.

Pew research is a respected organization. [link to m.theatlantic.com]

So, go back to belly aching and whining just like the liberals you despise.

You're right though it was BS. It is 86%. Honest mistake. Now go back to sucking cock for a living

Yes, I respect the hell out of them lumping in Social Security with foodstamps to make it look bigger than it is. They skewed the fuck out of that pie chart. No. Just no.

Is this your first day shilling or are you just that bad at it?

I'll shill your face off

Just go to bed, kid.

Except when my conservative friends talk about welfare; they lump in social security. And they claim that it is one of our entitlements as if that is such a terrible thing. You better believe if I've been paying into my whole working life I am damn well entitled to it. And if you have been paying into it and don't want that money; you are not very smart.