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It’s called a near-death experience, but the emphasis is on “near.” The heart stops, you feel yourself float up and out of your body. You glide toward the entrance of a tunnel, and a searing bright light envelops your field of vision.

It could be the afterlife, as many people who have come close to dying have asserted. But a new study says it might well be a show created by the brain, which is still very much alive. When the heart stops, neurons in the brain appeared to communicate at an even higher level than normal, perhaps setting off the last picture show, packed with special effects.

Thoughts? Same explanation we've heard for years?

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
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Re: Surge of brain activity may explain near-death experience, study says
All they've proven is that when the heart stops there is an increase in brain activity.

HOW does this prove there is no afterlife?

When looked at from a different angle, one could say that there is an increase in brain activity right before one leaves their body, en route to the afterlife.

Don't our brains create our present life?

Perhaps the increase in brain activity is the spark that creates the afterlife!

Or it could just be a dream.

Some say that life is but a dream.

Who can say whether or not the dream lives on after the body expires?
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Re: Surge of brain activity may explain near-death experience, study says
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Yep - just finished the book. First thing I thought of too.

Great book by the way but I wish Strassman would have ask much more detailed questions on the 'trips', though that wasn't in the study proposal.
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Re: Surge of brain activity may explain near-death experience, study says
Not good enough to make that claim in this study. There is no accounting for NDE experiences such as finding a shoe on a hospital window ledge that can only be seen if in the air - out of body.

What about the experiences after the tunnel? The NDE does not always stop with a bright light!
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Re: Surge of brain activity may explain near-death experience, study says
This has been debunked by several other studies.

Thought is was a flurry of brain activity, low oxygen, etc..., but they found out that is not the case.

Will post when I find several of those scientific studies done by neurologists.
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They just want us to believe that we're all pointless machines with no purpose except to breed, shop, and work.
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Man it doesn't explain what happened to me... lol

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Re: Surge of brain activity may explain near-death experience, study says
Sorry, but i've seen dead relatives before anyone said anything about them being dead.
Try again, and this time, don't be so conditioned by limitation on the earth realm.
Earth is just a low level place.
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 Quoting: Hawk-02


Yep - just finished the book. First thing I thought of too.

Great book by the way but I wish Strassman would have ask much more detailed questions on the 'trips', though that wasn't in the study proposal.
 Quoting: phizzycyst


Have you ever had a DMT trip? It's one of the most random,crazy, abstract experiences ever. But NDE's are nothing like that. They are hyper-real and lucid, and almost always involve the same aspects (tunnel, dead relatives etc). I don't buy the DMT theory at all.
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I suggest to look into NDE accounts by people that were born blind. That will remove any doubt in your mind.

Cheers!
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yawn

electromagnetic creatures, in an electromagnetic universe

you're immortal, sorry to say. no rest for the wicked!

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They just want us to believe that we're all pointless machines with no purpose except to breed, shop, and work.
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And serve the state.

This is a recycled story that pops up every few years, usually after a miraculous story makes headlines.

This time, it's meant to counter the "Angel Priest at car wreck scene" furor.
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I never watched that vid. Going to check it out now...
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WTF EVER! Cause I trust studies there always right. NOT!
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i highly recommend the bbc documentary "the day i died", it answers lot of questions, it also left you new ones though.. however, best documentary on that topic i have seen so far. enjoy it! hf
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So this means when people who have near death experiences and see heaven, its all an illusion made by the mind?
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Re: Surge of brain activity may explain near-death experience, study says
It’s called a near-death experience, but the emphasis is on “near.” The heart stops, you feel yourself float up and out of your body. You glide toward the entrance of a tunnel, and a searing bright light envelops your field of vision.

It could be the afterlife, as many people who have come close to dying have asserted. But a new study says it might well be a show created by the brain, which is still very much alive. When the heart stops, neurons in the brain appeared to communicate at an even higher level than normal, perhaps setting off the last picture show, packed with special effects.

Thoughts? Same explanation we've heard for years?

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
 Quoting: phizzycyst


Who developed the Brain?
Who inserted a life force/Spirit into the human body at conception?
Who releases the Spirit at death?
Who allows the Spirit to re-enter only certain humans at certain times?

No matter the cause...the only one who has the ultimate authority in life and death......

The Lord God.

Blessingshf
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Yep - just finished the book. First thing I thought of too.

Great book by the way but I wish Strassman would have ask much more detailed questions on the 'trips', though that wasn't in the study proposal.
 Quoting: phizzycyst


Have you ever had a DMT trip? It's one of the most random,crazy, abstract experiences ever. But NDE's are nothing like that. They are hyper-real and lucid, and almost always involve the same aspects (tunnel, dead relatives etc). I don't buy the DMT theory at all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44583331


Have you ever had a DMT trip?
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 Quoting: Hawk-02


Yep - just finished the book. First thing I thought of too.

Great book by the way but I wish Strassman would have ask much more detailed questions on the 'trips', though that wasn't in the study proposal.
 Quoting: phizzycyst


Have you ever had a DMT trip? It's one of the most random,crazy, abstract experiences ever. But NDE's are nothing like that. They are hyper-real and lucid, and almost always involve the same aspects (tunnel, dead relatives etc). I don't buy the DMT theory at all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44583331


Lots of stuff is attributed to DMT. A bit of hype sells the theory and idea. Unfortunately due to its nature a lot of people simply repeat the same ideas as if it were proven fact, when it is not. I think DMT has something to do with the mind/brain connection personally, but who knows. It is a crazy experience regardless.

I think this surge in brain activity could be hinting at a transition like experience where significant neural activity/energy is needed to push the person from sitting in the body to sitting in.. ?
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Yep - just finished the book. First thing I thought of too.

Great book by the way but I wish Strassman would have ask much more detailed questions on the 'trips', though that wasn't in the study proposal.
 Quoting: phizzycyst


Have you ever had a DMT trip? It's one of the most random,crazy, abstract experiences ever. But NDE's are nothing like that. They are hyper-real and lucid, and almost always involve the same aspects (tunnel, dead relatives etc). I don't buy the DMT theory at all.
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as someone whos had both i can say they are quite similar
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Re: Surge of brain activity may explain near-death experience, study says
This study is about actual death. The rats suffered cardiac arrest meaning their hearts stopped beating and that's the time when these mammals died. After dying their brain activity however increased in such a way that it was heightened above normal consciousness. Meaning that they were possibly even more conscious, more alive and more aware, than normally.

I find this very interesting. And I cannot understand why religious people, or people who want to defend their belief in afterlife or NDEs, find this study bullshit or biased. I mean, what do you think happens when you die and all the angels take care of you or you go to heaven. I mean, if its' real, why wouldn't it show in our brains?

Is it that religious people think that spiritual matters have no connection whatsoever to physical matters. I don't understand. Because spiritual matters are in fact connected to physicality. That's why it is truly possible to be cured from disease, from addiction, and all sorts of trauma via spiritual healing. Jesus cured people. He cured people in fact, in physical reality, not just some superspiritual realm with absolutely no connection to physical reality.
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This study is about actual death. The rats suffered cardiac arrest meaning their hearts stopped beating and that's the time when these mammals died. After dying their brain activity however increased in such a way that it was heightened above normal consciousness. Meaning that they were possibly even more conscious, more alive and more aware, than normally.

I find this very interesting. And I cannot understand why religious people, or people who want to defend their belief in afterlife or NDEs, find this study bullshit or biased. I mean, what do you think happens when you die and all the angels take care of you or you go to heaven. I mean, if its' real, why wouldn't it show in our brains?

Is it that religious people think that spiritual matters have no connection whatsoever to physical matters. I don't understand. Because spiritual matters are in fact connected to physicality. That's why it is truly possible to be cured from disease, from addiction, and all sorts of trauma via spiritual healing. Jesus cured people. He cured people in fact, in physical reality, not just some superspiritual realm with absolutely no connection to physical reality.
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Former Athiest's NDE.......


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Bull Crap! If anyone thinks NDE's are just the brain misfiring at the end of life needs to go to YouTube search for Neurosurgeon / Dr. Eben Alexander and listen to his first hand experience. It will blow all other theories out of the water!
He also has a book called "Proof of Heaven"
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Re: Surge of brain activity may explain near-death experience, study says
The detaching of the eternal soul from the mortal coil explains the flurry of brain activity.
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Yep - just finished the book. First thing I thought of too.

Great book by the way but I wish Strassman would have ask much more detailed questions on the 'trips', though that wasn't in the study proposal.
 Quoting: phizzycyst


recommended reading to anyone out there. DMT: The Spirit Molecule.
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The NDE debunkers don't want anyone to believe in God or anything greater than the human.

The debunkers also don't want anyone to believe in absolute moral codes (right/wrong, etc.) because they don't want to be held responsible for their lying, stealing, and cheating, especially intellectual property theft (but don't you do it, or they will scream and stick their relativistic legal system on you).

Essentially, the worry is that humans who believe in God or an afterlife will hold transgressors responsible for the harm they have done to others. Then they would be deprived of their "memories of good times," which are really only comprised of their addictive indulgences, and ability to donate to charities that promote their causes.
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Yea i believe everything from illuminati washington post 2

got news for a lil sheep tard like you, the illuminati owns humanity and one of their big control mechanisms is the fear of death, and dumb lil sheep like you lap up every little 'study' they put out to reinforce your programming

and dmt tard, shut your druggy ass up
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So this means when people who have near death experiences and see heaven, its all an illusion made by the mind?
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Rats don't have souls, invalid study.
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