Surge of brain activity may explain near-death experience, study says | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36547497 France 08/13/2013 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All they've proven is that when the heart stops there is an increase in brain activity. HOW does this prove there is no afterlife? When looked at from a different angle, one could say that there is an increase in brain activity right before one leaves their body, en route to the afterlife. Don't our brains create our present life? Perhaps the increase in brain activity is the spark that creates the afterlife! Or it could just be a dream. Some say that life is but a dream. Who can say whether or not the dream lives on after the body expires? |
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calin User ID: 33469296 United States 08/13/2013 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not good enough to make that claim in this study. There is no accounting for NDE experiences such as finding a shoe on a hospital window ledge that can only be seen if in the air - out of body. What about the experiences after the tunnel? The NDE does not always stop with a bright light! .............................. When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself. .................................. THE SECOND AGREEMENT: "Don't take anything personally. When you are immune to the opinions and actions of others, you won't be the victim of needless suffering." ~ Don Miguel Ruiz, The Four Agreements |
JanJan User ID: 18450840 United States 08/13/2013 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thought is was a flurry of brain activity, low oxygen, etc..., but they found out that is not the case. Will post when I find several of those scientific studies done by neurologists. |
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Gunnz, lots of Gunnz User ID: 44851229 Australia 08/13/2013 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry, but i've seen dead relatives before anyone said anything about them being dead. Try again, and this time, don't be so conditioned by limitation on the earth realm. Earth is just a low level place. Corp/o/Ration A Single Entity (group with the same paragon) Restricting consumption of scarce commodities. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44583331 United Kingdom 08/13/2013 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yep - just finished the book. First thing I thought of too. Great book by the way but I wish Strassman would have ask much more detailed questions on the 'trips', though that wasn't in the study proposal. Have you ever had a DMT trip? It's one of the most random,crazy, abstract experiences ever. But NDE's are nothing like that. They are hyper-real and lucid, and almost always involve the same aspects (tunnel, dead relatives etc). I don't buy the DMT theory at all. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44319680 United States 08/13/2013 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They just want us to believe that we're all pointless machines with no purpose except to breed, shop, and work. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44319680 And serve the state. This is a recycled story that pops up every few years, usually after a miraculous story makes headlines. This time, it's meant to counter the "Angel Priest at car wreck scene" furor. I never watched that vid. Going to check it out now... |
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daughter in NYC User ID: 28900257 United States 08/13/2013 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It’s called a near-death experience, but the emphasis is on “near.” The heart stops, you feel yourself float up and out of your body. You glide toward the entrance of a tunnel, and a searing bright light envelops your field of vision. Quoting: phizzycyst It could be the afterlife, as many people who have come close to dying have asserted. But a new study says it might well be a show created by the brain, which is still very much alive. When the heart stops, neurons in the brain appeared to communicate at an even higher level than normal, perhaps setting off the last picture show, packed with special effects. Thoughts? Same explanation we've heard for years? [link to www.washingtonpost.com] Who developed the Brain? Who inserted a life force/Spirit into the human body at conception? Who releases the Spirit at death? Who allows the Spirit to re-enter only certain humans at certain times? No matter the cause...the only one who has the ultimate authority in life and death...... The Lord God. Blessings daughter in NYC |
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Keneh User ID: 2482665 United States 08/13/2013 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yep - just finished the book. First thing I thought of too. Great book by the way but I wish Strassman would have ask much more detailed questions on the 'trips', though that wasn't in the study proposal. Have you ever had a DMT trip? It's one of the most random,crazy, abstract experiences ever. But NDE's are nothing like that. They are hyper-real and lucid, and almost always involve the same aspects (tunnel, dead relatives etc). I don't buy the DMT theory at all. Have you ever had a DMT trip? Keneh |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7242673 United Kingdom 08/13/2013 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yep - just finished the book. First thing I thought of too. Great book by the way but I wish Strassman would have ask much more detailed questions on the 'trips', though that wasn't in the study proposal. Have you ever had a DMT trip? It's one of the most random,crazy, abstract experiences ever. But NDE's are nothing like that. They are hyper-real and lucid, and almost always involve the same aspects (tunnel, dead relatives etc). I don't buy the DMT theory at all. Lots of stuff is attributed to DMT. A bit of hype sells the theory and idea. Unfortunately due to its nature a lot of people simply repeat the same ideas as if it were proven fact, when it is not. I think DMT has something to do with the mind/brain connection personally, but who knows. It is a crazy experience regardless. I think this surge in brain activity could be hinting at a transition like experience where significant neural activity/energy is needed to push the person from sitting in the body to sitting in.. ? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17283781 Canada 08/13/2013 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yep - just finished the book. First thing I thought of too. Great book by the way but I wish Strassman would have ask much more detailed questions on the 'trips', though that wasn't in the study proposal. Have you ever had a DMT trip? It's one of the most random,crazy, abstract experiences ever. But NDE's are nothing like that. They are hyper-real and lucid, and almost always involve the same aspects (tunnel, dead relatives etc). I don't buy the DMT theory at all. as someone whos had both i can say they are quite similar |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39070113 Finland 08/13/2013 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This study is about actual death. The rats suffered cardiac arrest meaning their hearts stopped beating and that's the time when these mammals died. After dying their brain activity however increased in such a way that it was heightened above normal consciousness. Meaning that they were possibly even more conscious, more alive and more aware, than normally. I find this very interesting. And I cannot understand why religious people, or people who want to defend their belief in afterlife or NDEs, find this study bullshit or biased. I mean, what do you think happens when you die and all the angels take care of you or you go to heaven. I mean, if its' real, why wouldn't it show in our brains? Is it that religious people think that spiritual matters have no connection whatsoever to physical matters. I don't understand. Because spiritual matters are in fact connected to physicality. That's why it is truly possible to be cured from disease, from addiction, and all sorts of trauma via spiritual healing. Jesus cured people. He cured people in fact, in physical reality, not just some superspiritual realm with absolutely no connection to physical reality. |
daughter in NYC User ID: 28900257 United States 08/13/2013 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This study is about actual death. The rats suffered cardiac arrest meaning their hearts stopped beating and that's the time when these mammals died. After dying their brain activity however increased in such a way that it was heightened above normal consciousness. Meaning that they were possibly even more conscious, more alive and more aware, than normally. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39070113 I find this very interesting. And I cannot understand why religious people, or people who want to defend their belief in afterlife or NDEs, find this study bullshit or biased. I mean, what do you think happens when you die and all the angels take care of you or you go to heaven. I mean, if its' real, why wouldn't it show in our brains? Is it that religious people think that spiritual matters have no connection whatsoever to physical matters. I don't understand. Because spiritual matters are in fact connected to physicality. That's why it is truly possible to be cured from disease, from addiction, and all sorts of trauma via spiritual healing. Jesus cured people. He cured people in fact, in physical reality, not just some superspiritual realm with absolutely no connection to physical reality. Former Athiest's NDE....... daughter in NYC |
PMNOrlando User ID: 45082688 United States 08/13/2013 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He also has a book called "Proof of Heaven" |
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Hawk-02 Hawk-o-holic User ID: 742097 United States 08/13/2013 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yep - just finished the book. First thing I thought of too. Great book by the way but I wish Strassman would have ask much more detailed questions on the 'trips', though that wasn't in the study proposal. recommended reading to anyone out there. DMT: The Spirit Molecule. Pickle Suprise! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43647980 United States 08/13/2013 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The NDE debunkers don't want anyone to believe in God or anything greater than the human. The debunkers also don't want anyone to believe in absolute moral codes (right/wrong, etc.) because they don't want to be held responsible for their lying, stealing, and cheating, especially intellectual property theft (but don't you do it, or they will scream and stick their relativistic legal system on you). Essentially, the worry is that humans who believe in God or an afterlife will hold transgressors responsible for the harm they have done to others. Then they would be deprived of their "memories of good times," which are really only comprised of their addictive indulgences, and ability to donate to charities that promote their causes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38426196 France 08/13/2013 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yea i believe everything from illuminati washington post 2 got news for a lil sheep tard like you, the illuminati owns humanity and one of their big control mechanisms is the fear of death, and dumb lil sheep like you lap up every little 'study' they put out to reinforce your programming and dmt tard, shut your druggy ass up |
BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 08/13/2013 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So this means when people who have near death experiences and see heaven, its all an illusion made by the mind? Quoting: curious_galaxies Rats don't have souls, invalid study. I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |